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High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« on: September 16, 2014, 12:22:24 am »
Previous winners:

#001 thru #099 - For list of winners for those competitions  please refer to this link
#100: Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom: Winner - Gray_Area, Second - Tafoid
#101: Marvin's Maze: Winner - Kixfan, Second - Hammerfist
#102: Rally-X:  Winner - Tafoid, Second  djm858
#103: Lock 'N Chase:  Winner - Kixfan, Second - Jasonbar
#104: Space Fury: Winner - Gray_Area, Second - kixfan
#105: Pig Out: Winner - Kixfan, Second - Gray_Area
#106: Carnival: Winner - rick6668, Second - Kixfan
#107: Rastan: Winner - popsicle, Second - rick6668
#108: Peguin-Kun Wars Winner-dancawar, Second - Popsicle
#109: Blood Bros.* Winner - harveybirdman, Second - Jasonbar *scores reflect use of game features considered cheats
#110: Rabbit Punch: Winner - jasonbar, Second - mimic
#111: Alien Syndrome: Winner - mimic, Second Comtek
#112: Block Hole: Winner - Comtek, Second - idsane
#113: Pepper II: Winner - Comtek, Second - Kixfan
#114: Break Thru: Winner - jasonbar, Second - mimic
#115: Ninja Baseball Bat Man: Winner - mimic, Second - Tafoid
#116: Shao-lin's Road: Winner - mimic, Second - Kixfan
#117: Scramble: Winner - Kixfan, Second - jasonbar
#118: Lost Tomb: Winner: Jasonbar, Second: mimic
#119: Green Beret: Winner: LeapinLew, Second: popsicle
#120: Lady Killer: Winner: Comtek Second: Mimic
#121: Qix: Winner: Comtek Second: sorhp
#122: Halley's Comet: Winner: Jasonbar Second: Mimic
#123: Cyber-Lip: Winner: Jasonbar Second: epetti
#124: Lode Runner: Winner: JDFan Second: kixfan
#125: Snow Bros. - Nick & Tom: Winner: Comtek Second: JDFan
#126: Bosconian: Winner: Cynicaster Second: kixfan
#127: Eggs: Winner: Cynicaster Second: kixfan
#128: Eyes: Winner: kixfan Second: Comtek
#129: Galaga '88: Winner: jasonbar, Second: opt2not
#130: Final Fight: Winner: opt2not, Second: Comtek
#131: Hammerin' Harry: Winner: lettuce, Second: kixfan
#132: Battle Circuit: Winner: lettuce, Second: jasonbar
#133: Giga Wing: Winner: edekoning, Second: spoot
#134: Osman: Winner: edekoning, Second: lettuce
#135: Surprise Attack: Winner: Comtek, Second: edekoning
#136: Anteater: Winner: Kixfan, Second: Comtek
#137: Jr. Pac man: Winner: Kixfan, Second: Popsicle
#138: Chelnov: Winner: Popsicle: Second: Comtek
#139: Berzerk: Winner: Popsicle: Second: Kixfan
#140: Mystic Marathon: Winner: Popsicle: Second: JDFan
#141: Moon Cresta: Winner: Kixfan: Second: Jasonbar
#142: Star Force: Winner: big10p: Second: Jasonbar
#143: Armored Car:  Winner: Popsicle:  Second: Kixfan
#144: Pinball Action:  Winner: JDFan:  Second: popsicle
#145: Mr. TNT:  Winner: Kixfan:  Second: Comtek
#146: The End: Winner: Popsicle  Second: Kixfan
#147: Land, Sea, Air Squad:  Winner: Popsicle   Second: big10p
#148: Armor Attack:  Winner: HanoiBoi   Second: Popsicle

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Game Name: Pooyan
  ROM Name: pooyan

      Settings: Lives: 3
                     Bonus Life: 50k 80k+
                     Difficulty: 1 [Easy]

Controls:

    Joystick: 2-way (up, down)
    Buttons: 1 [Fire]











From KLOV:

Armed with a bow and arrows and slabs of meat, mama pig must defend/save her piglets from the wolves ballooning up or down the cliff. Move up and down, shoot the balloons, watch the wolves plummet and splat. There are various bonus rounds.

The story revolves around a family of little pink piglets who have been attacked and/or captured by a monstrous pack of hungry wolves. The mama pig, who was not attacked or captured attempts to save and/or protect her chubby little family. Armed with a bow and arrows and slabs of meat, she jumps into a cage that moves up and down on a rope. Meanwhile, the wolves use helium balloons to float down from a tree limb while throwing rocks at Mama. Mrs. Pig tries to shoot their balloons with her arrows so the wolves will fall to their deaths or she hurls slabs of meat at them to make them let go. If she misses, the wolves will safely reach the ground and climb a ladder to try to bite her.

Also, if any of the wolves reach the ground, more piglets will be captured by them. So Mrs.Pig must try to kill as many wolves as possible without letting them reach the ground.

On the second level, the wolves use balloons to float to the top of a high cliff. If enough of them reach the cliff, they will push a huge boulder down onto Mama's cage. After this level has been completed, the piglets who have been captured are rescued and the game starts over with increased difficulty.

There is also a bonus round where Mrs. Pig will attempt to eliminate as many wolves on ascending balloons as possible by throwing as few slabs of meat as possible for a maximum bonus score.


Last day: Sunday, Sept. 28 2014 midnight Pacific
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General Rules:
- One Credit, No Continues.
- Highest score wins.
- No savestates, savestate practices, etc. during the round.
- MAME INP recordings are encouraged but optional.
- A screenshot is required to enter a score (press F12 to save screenshot showing your final score) or take a photo of the game screen.
- If you're a MARP competitor on this title, keep in mind this is just a friendly competition among forum members, so maybe you shouldn't enter. However, if you're a forum member and this is a game you're good at and nobody knows about it, this is your time to shine!
- Even if you don't have a competitive score or if you don't *think* that you have a competitive score, please post it anyway to keep the thread fun & to give everybody a good sense of score ranges.
- Please make sure your scores are from games that take place during the competition period (no posting your best score from last year, etc.).
- Use of autofire or other non-standard hacks within MAME or your PC's OS are not allowed.  No program or other person or entity of any sort may manipulate your controls during your game.  Coaching & back-seat driving is fine as long as the party doesn't directly influence the game or controls.
- If you can beat any of the high scores from the previous competitions, you can submit your score to the BYOAC High Game Scoreboard.



- Quest for the Bronze Joystick! The most successful competitor of each calendar year will possess & display the BYOAC Bronze Joystick Trophy. See this thread for details:The BYOAC Bronze Joystick.
Happy Gaming!

Scoring Updates:
HanoiBoi       333,750
kixfan            317,750
jasonbar       241,600
JDFan            185,700
popsicle        171,100
wp34            117,200
Louis Tully      86,700
epetti             83,300
bandit721      81,500
pbj                   48,500
Generic Eric    22,950
« Last Edit: November 11, 2014, 05:59:26 am by HanoiBoi »

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2014, 12:44:04 am »
Earlier today, I was thinking of picking something more 'obscure' that I find enjoyable to play in short bursts, like Nato Defense, Navarone , Rip Off or Hole Land.  Then I came up with a list of games that I was sure had probably been selected previously, but surprisingly were not (Donkey Kong Junior, Congo Bongo, Journey, Kangaroo) but ended up selecting Pooyan as I believe it is more likely to be 'newer' to some players and thus more equally competitive. Plus, it's pretty fun.

I'm no ringer - that's not why I selected it - so you probably won't see me too much on the scoreboard.

Best of luck!

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2014, 07:32:15 am »
Let the Poo jokes begin!

I like Nato defense as well!   Have you played Thief?   It's made by the same company.   I like it a little bit more.


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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2014, 08:48:28 am »
Let the Poo jokes begin!

I like Nato defense as well!   Have you played Thief?   It's made by the same company.   I like it a little bit more.

The voices in Nato Defense are very amusing!  Quality voice acting there!

I may have played thief...(wondering if that's the one where do drive around on streets, then go into buildings, then back out to street?)

Oh, and I also like Kix.  Even saw them at Hammerjacks back in the day.  My nick is also band related, in case you weren't aware.  (Sometimes I figure people just assume I'm from Hanoi..)

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2014, 11:27:48 am »
OK - might as well start things off so at least I was leading at some point  :laugh2: -- 41,400

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2014, 12:13:56 pm »
Not sure if this will inspire or depress, but to quote Wikipedia:

"David Hanzman of Rochester, NY, USA, scored a world record 1,609,250 points on the arcade version of Pooyan on December 16, 1983."

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2014, 12:20:54 pm »
Not sure if this will inspire or depress, but to quote Wikipedia:

"David Hanzman of Rochester, NY, USA, scored a world record 1,609,250 points on the arcade version of Pooyan on December 16, 1983."

Funny, I saw a similar blurb for Armor Attack, something like 2,000,000+, but I still couldn't break 7,000. 

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2014, 02:48:26 pm »
Awesome!  I love Pooyan.   I've played it mostly on the Atari 800 though.  Nice pick!

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2014, 03:33:38 pm »
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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2014, 03:54:24 pm »
That is awesome.   :applaud:

OK - might as well start things off so at least I was leading at some point  :laugh2: -- 41,400

Just squeaked past you. 41650




If this doesn't count, that's cool. I've got no problem with that. I'm sure I won't be close to the high score anyway. This one is simple but tricky.

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2014, 04:30:58 pm »
OK - might as well start things off so at least I was leading at some point  :laugh2: -- 41,400

Just squeaked past you. 41650




If this doesn't count, that's cool. I've got no problem with that. I'm sure I won't be close to the high score anyway. This one is simple but tricky.

Nice mini build !! - Don't see any reason it wouldn't count -- figure the rules pretty much allow play on any setup. At least it took you 6 tries to beat judging from your high score screen !

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2014, 04:35:09 pm »
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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2014, 05:34:36 pm »
At least it took you 6 tries to beat judging from your high score screen !

 :-[ yeah. Took me a couple tries to figure out that bonus stage. Those double 2:29 runs were back to back, believe it or not.  :lol

Yeah it takes a few games to get accustomed to (first try I couldn't figure out why the arrow wouldn't shoot in the bonus round  :banghead:) -- found out you get more points using the meat and hitting the groups as the score increases each hit (ie. 200 400 800 1600 1600) and those 1600 point hits sure help the final score if you can get them) Once you figure out which ones will go upward in a large group you can pick up some quick points (if you avoid getting hit when trying!)

Score has improved a bit after a few more tries -- 87,450

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2014, 06:28:49 pm »

The voices in Nato Defense are very amusing!  Quality voice acting there!

I may have played thief...(wondering if that's the one where do drive around on streets, then go into buildings, then back out to street?)

Oh, and I also like Kix.  Even saw them at Hammerjacks back in the day.  My nick is also band related, in case you weren't aware.  (Sometimes I figure people just assume I'm from Hanoi..)

I started looking up Hanoi Rocks and then realized that was the band Vince Neil tore apart.   Can't say I've heard much from them but I'm always looking for something different.   I've seen Kix about 10 times.   I've been temped to make a trip to Baltimore (about 8 hours away).

Yes, the voices are very funny in both games.   Some might take offense to Nato I suppose!

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2014, 08:26:44 pm »
I keep thinking I'm almost done with the wolves, but they keep coming.

My entry, before you guys pull away: 105400.  Not too, too shabby.


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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2014, 08:28:38 pm »
I see the bar has been raised since I last checked. 

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2014, 09:07:30 pm »
118,050 after a few tries.  I also used to play this on my Atari 800.  Actually, I didn't even know it was an arcade game when I discovered it on an *ahem* compilation disk given to me by a high school friend.  Seems it was a pretty good port.


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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2014, 09:09:59 pm »
By the way does anyone else find it strange that in this game you are a protective mother pig that throws dead pig carcasses at your enemies?
 ???


Oh, and JD you should get BONUS points for playing on that tiny thing  :applaud:

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2014, 09:15:02 pm »
I'll see your 118050 and raise to 120900..

I never knew the mama pig was throwing 'meat' until I looked it up on klov.  I thought it was like two hearts or something.  Anyone know when that appears?  Is it random or timed or after shooting x amount if arrows?

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2014, 10:22:38 pm »
Oh, and JD you should get BONUS points for playing on that tiny thing  :applaud:

It's actually LT (Louis Tully) that was playing the mini !! (and I agree it should be given extra points with that small of a screen)

I'll see your 118050 and raise to 120900..

I never knew the mama pig was throwing 'meat' until I looked it up on klov.  I thought it was like two hearts or something.  Anyone know when that appears?  Is it random or timed or after shooting x amount if arrows?

From what I read earlier ( http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps2/932325-oretachi-game-center-zoku-pooyan/faqs/26414 ) :

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First of all some general principles: you usually get two pieces of meat to
shoot at the monsters at level's start, and the meat reappears once the number
of wolves left(the sign in the upper left) reaches a multiple of eight. You
can't store up meat for later use, but you can also chuck meat quickly with the
monsters at a multiple of eight and get another one(it's still a multiple of
eight)
« Last Edit: September 16, 2014, 10:25:44 pm by JDFan »

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2014, 10:33:30 pm »
wHOOPS my mistake.  That mini cabinet is the tops, Louis  :cheers:

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2014, 12:03:25 am »
83,300 after a few tries. I get greedy with the meat and end up getting hit by one of their rocks.

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2014, 08:09:32 am »
83,300 after a few tries. I get greedy with the meat and end up getting hit by one of their rocks.

I heard that about you  ;D

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2014, 11:16:32 am »
First try--my little boy didn't get in my way too much. :]

126,100

Used to play the heck out of this on my Atari 800 too!

-Jason

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2014, 12:25:22 pm »
Dang I was hoping Jason wasn't going to compete this time.   >:D

I thought I was king-stuff when I played this on the Atari 800 and now I can't break 80k.

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2014, 12:32:21 pm »
C'mon, King-Stuff, you can compete with FirstPoo!

Let's keep raising that bar.

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2014, 08:37:31 pm »
Generic Eric 22950

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2014, 10:21:29 pm »
153,500

One of a few games that keeps track of how much time you waste playing.


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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2014, 11:32:09 pm »
C'mon, King-Stuff, you can compete with FirstPoo!

Let's keep raising that bar.

Challenge accepted.   :cheers:

Closer but no cigar.

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2014, 11:51:50 pm »
Kix, nice score.  I was just coming on to post 152500.  You got me by 1000.  (wish I had hit all the strawberries in the 2nd bonus round!)

I think I've got some decent strategies, but need to implement better.

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2014, 06:40:29 am »
Tried again this morning.  I got the strawberries plus a few more balloons.  Pretty good game.  Pretay, pretay good.

My last guy ended with the wolves dropping the boulder on me when I had just one more to hit in the level.  On the level when the wolves rise, it felt like it was raining the 'blocker' ballons, which made it tough to hit shots.

I really do like this game.  I never saw it in the wild - only discovered it in mame.  Simple theme, yet challenging, and gradually tougher with each level.

My new (all time) high 256800.

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2014, 10:12:06 am »
Improved a bit last night but not enough --- 108,500

Here's an Update on the scores and standings so far :

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kixfan            153,500
HanoiBoi       152,500
jasonbar       126,100
popsicle        118,050
wp34            117,200
JDFan           108,500
epetti             83,300
Louis Tully      41,650
Generic Eric     22,950


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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2014, 12:29:17 pm »
Thanks JD for the scoring update.  I've added it to the first post and edited it as needed.  I'll try to keep it as up-to-date as possible.

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2014, 02:23:47 pm »
Improved a bit more 146,450

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2014, 12:40:07 pm »
I don't know if I can do much better than this.
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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2014, 02:51:18 pm »
Not much more poo than my last posted score, but I achieved it 3 seconds faster than last time, so I'm more efficient. Hooray for me.

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2014, 01:32:13 am »
My first entry in a competition now that I have my cabinet partially set up...

Not in the same league as you guys but here goes...


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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2014, 09:07:59 am »
We’ve still got another week on this competition.  Anyone who thinks they’ve peaked on the scoring, I’m pretty sure you can go higher.

I can offer a few tips that I came up with while playing that may or may not be obvious…

1)   After knocking a wolves off their balloons with the meat, you can still shoot the balloons with your arrows for points.  As mentioned earlier in the thread, try knocking down as many wolves as possible with each throw of the meat….but after you do, keep shooting quickly to get some of those balloons!

2)   The more you play, you’ll see a pattern as to how the wolves come out and be able to see when a ‘cluster’ is coming for prime scoring with the meat.  And it does seem that the meat will be regenerated for you when the cluster is just about to launch.  Grab it and use it wisely.

3)   If you can, boost your score by shooting the rocks that the wolves throw.  If you watch them, you’ll see when they are winding up to throw.  They seem to throw when you are lined up with them.  Knowing this, you can also try to ‘bait’ them to throw when you expect it.  When they throw the rock, I usually need to move up slightly to shot the rock.

4)   Here’s my favorite strategy to milk a few points.  On the stages when the wolves are ‘rising’, the last wolf (which has a flickering rainbow colored balloon) takes about 5 straight shots to get down – meaning he blocks the first 4 shots and the 5th pops his balloon.  If he gets to the top, your wolf ‘count’ goes back up to 5.  But 5 more wolves means more points to be had!  If you’ve done well enough in the stage to keep wolves from getting to the top, let that last one get to the top and then score more points on the next 5…popping their balloons and shooting their rocks.  Same with the last guy…you can try to bait some rocks out of him too.  You can do this a few times with that last wolf, if you can afford him getting to the top. (Goal: try to milk an additional 5,000 on the stage)

5)   You can also try to milk points on the stages when the wolves float down, but it’s a bit more difficult if you let too many wolves on the ladder as they can get you from the side.  I usually maybe let 2 get down, then decide to finish the round.  (Goal: On the first stage of the game, try to score 20,000 without losing a pig)

6)   I’ll guess that everyone’s figured this out, but the meat seems to bounce off of the ‘solo’ balloons (no wolf hanging), so time your meat shots appropriately.  One bad shot and a cluster of wolves can get to the top and that’ll pretty much be it.

7)   The more you play, the more familiar you’ll be with the balloon blocking and how many hits it might take to pop a balloon (pop / block, pop / block, block, pop).  By knowing this, you’ll better know how many shots to fire before quickly moving to the next wolf/balloon.  (If you wait to see if the last shot was effective, you'll run out of time on other wolves and cause a chain reaction of not being able to pop enough)

8 )   There are some more strategies that I recognize in some later stages, but haven’t fully been able to capitalize on because by the time I get there, I haven’t played the stage enough to see what to do.  The main one being when certain balloons take a few hits…when a balloon goes from green > yellow > red… the red balloon/wolf floats up pretty slowly.  I imagine if done right, you could group a couple of those slow floaters and then ‘meat’ them along with a rising ‘cluster’ for some decent points.  I know, I know…easier said than done.

I haven’t searched for any techniques on the internet or any tutorials on youtube – these are just some observations by me.  Hope they help raise your scores.
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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2014, 07:36:55 pm »
I had a few good games in a row then went cold.

@Hanoiboi - I had not thought about point # 4.   

I THINK on the stages with the wolves floating down if the ladder is full of wolves I think you can time out the level by defending yourself.   It is very hard but I think it happened to me but not sure.

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Re: High score competition #149 : Pooyan
« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2014, 12:52:05 am »
Nice scores kixfan.  I tested the possible time out thing on the very first screen. I never saw any timeout occur, but i did learn that the level doesn't end when the ladder gets full.  I guess I assumed that they'd get me if they climbed to the top.  So, I know I can try to milk points, but something I observed when trying this is that the next level (of rising balloons) is more difficult than if I didn't milk it.  When I finished the first level,  think  I actually saw '26 pigs captured'.  This probably has something to do with the next level being harder.  Other than that, I don't know what the pros or cons of the wolves actually getting the pigs.  Any idea?

I did up my score too.  I'll probably keep trying to reach 300k, but who knows.

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