Idle fingers... STUN Runner re-theme

[Le Chuck]

A few months ago I decided that I wasn't going to finish the New Republic Flight Trainer.  It came down to the fact that I started that project with a friend and once that friend wasn't around to help out anymore I didn't feel like doing it.  I shelved it for a while, came back to it a few times, but really my heart wasn't in it - and if you're signing yourself up for hours and hours of one off fabricating, welding, fiberglassing, etc your heart oughta be in it.  It's still a cool idea but it isn't anything I feel like tackling on my own - maybe another time. 

I've cleaned out the garage of most of the paraphernalia and honestly feel so much better.  To capitalize on this life decision I've started another project, well, a few projects really but one that I'm ready to share now. 

I picked up a STUN Runner super cheap but it was super busted.  The boards work but the monitor was out and it had some significant water and moving damage.  All the feet and one wheel were torn off but it had good bones.  I thought it was in need of some love but decided that the world could do without a refurbed STUN Runner.  It will remain intact enough that if somebody wants to set it back someday they can but I'm not overly concerned with that. 


I forgot to take a before shot.  Oops.  The monitor housing wasn't in terrible shape but I had other plans so went ahead and pulled it.  The running boards were borked on all corners and were full of nails, spackle, bondo, glue, and god knows what else so I yanked'em.  The base plate/kick plate was all messed up so I pulled it as well.  Also, I straight up loathe the STUN Runner marquee housing so I ditched it.  Stupid looking box. 


One corner I was able to salvage with some bondo but the other was too far gone so I chunked it


Dropped in a replacement piece, kinda wish I had just done this on the running boards to save time but I'll be overall happier with having redone them I'm sure


Luckily I had four feet in ye ole box o'parts so I drilled out the busted plates and used a piece of MDF to sandwich in a T-nut and remount them.  It was either that or spend about $40 to have bolts welded to the plates as I never got around to buying my own welder - necessity is the mother of invention or something like that.


Snatched up a $20 sheet of particle board - I know most of you hate this stuff but if you can avoid dropping it on a corner it works pretty well and since the rest of the cab is made of it I figured I might as well.  Besides, I only dropped it once and had to rebuild one corner that won't show anyway (facepalm).  I made the monitor housing a bit taller to accommodate a different monitor.


This is the other side - for those that like to see both sides of things.  You can imagine the back right now.... sorry


So this is the monitor, it's a 25".  I took the 19" which was rain damaged and dead to my local coinop shop and dropped it off with the guy there as I didn't want to fiddle with it and came home with a hardly used 25" in exchange.  Turns out the mount on that 19" was worth about as much as the whole 25" so winner winner chicken dinner.  I tried to make the housing as small as possible, I think I got pretty close - not bad at least. 

I've redone the back door and a few other panels that don't show, as for the kick plate I'm thinking about using that as a marquee area or making something like big space ship thrusters on it.  Haven't decided.  Am open to recommendations.  Plastics had the usual assortment of cig burns but weren't cracked.  I sanded those back, glazed the burns, and will be repainting soon.  I'm thinking white.  White would be pretty slick.  Convince me otherwise. 

Theme is "Starfighter".

Thanks for looking!

[wp34]

This is real interesting.  Are you going with a yoke controller?  What games will it play?

[talkgeek]

I'm hooked - subscribed! 

[Louis Tully]

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[DaOld Man]

Looking real good LeChuck.

[TKW4rr10r]

Have to admit, feel a little silly needing to look up the original cabinet. Don't recall seeing a lot of the riding style runners out there. Nice find!

25" was an excellent call. Since staying with particle board on such a bulky build, I'd seriously consider any kind of wood hardeners for the corners once all the wood working is done.
Are you going with custom artwork or repro? Trying to picture your 'theme' with the white plastics but I'm liking the idea. Great work!

[jdbailey1206]

I really hope that the Jawas didn't come and get R2 in the process of your garage cleansing.

[Le Chuck]

Thanks guys, this one is kindofa beast size wise but I'm pretty excited about it

I really hope that the Jawas didn't come and get R2 in the process of your garage cleansing.

haha, NO.  R2 is safe and sound though he's getting a bit of work under the dome.  I'll be updating him separately once he's ready for prime time again.

Are you going with custom artwork or repro? Trying to picture your 'theme' with the white plastics but I'm liking the idea. Great work!

I haven't started the art (which is backwards for me - I always do art first then built to that) but I have a few ideas to use elements of the original art and retheme from that.  The engine art on STUN Runner was always a favorite but I hated the color scheme and a lot of the paneling in that art so I'm going to start from there and build up.  Once I get something on the screen I'll post it up.  I expect this cab to be playable soon - the art will be the last thing to go on it - should be fun to build around such an interestingly shaped canvas.

This is real interesting.  Are you going with a yoke controller?  What games will it play?

Yep, yoke is going back on it with *hopefully* a few special modifications I'm working on.  We'll see how it pans out.  If not no worries, it will still be a yoke nomatter what - maybe just not a yoke plus.  I'm looking to play mostly different forms of rail shooters on this as that's my favorite genre for the last few years.  Everything from Star Wars to Star Fox 

If you check out the SW Frontend Thread you'll get an idea of where this is headed. 

[TKW4rr10r]

Yoke "Plus" you say??



I'll bee keeping an eye on that while I work on the ROTJ cab.

[mcseforsale]

Waiting with pregnant anticipation.  Love this build so far.

subscribed.

AJ

[Generic Eric]

Waiting with pregnant anticipation.  Love this build so far.

subscribed.

AJ

The immaculate conception of the of the Jedis' Revenge. 

You have nine or less months.

[jdbailey1206]

Waiting with pregnant anticipation.  Love this build so far.

subscribed.

AJ

The immaculate conception of the of the Jedis' Revenge. 

You have nine or less months.

Dont say immaculate conception and Star Wars in the same sentence.  That leads to whiny little babies that want to rule the universe.

[Generic Eric]

Waiting with pregnant anticipation.  Love this build so far.

subscribed.

AJ

The immaculate conception of the of the Jedis' Revenge. 

You have nine or less months.

Dont say immaculate conception and Star Wars in the same sentence.  That leads to whiny little babies that want to rule the universe.

itsok.  That happened a long time ago.

[pbj]

Immaculate Conception = born without original sin

Virgin Birth = Darth Vader

[Le Chuck]

First coats of paint went on today. Will sand and recoat through the week to a nice finish. Using oil enamel as the weather was nice.

Couldn't not dry fit the plastics, quite a contrast right now 

[yotsuya]

First coats of paint went on today. Will sand and recoat through the week to a nice finish. Using oil enamel as the weather was nice.

Couldn't not dry fit the plastics, quite a contrast right now 

How firm is the seat? Is there padding there, or are you going to have sore nuts after hours of fun? 

[eds1275]

How firm is the seat? Is there padding there, or are you going to have sore nuts after hours of fun? 

There are so many jokes!

[Generic Eric]

You've got the coolest projects, Chuck. Sorry to hear about the Flight Trainer. It'll come back around.
 

Will we ever witness a fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL Flight Trainer?

[yotsuya]

You've got the coolest projects, Chuck. Sorry to hear about the Flight Trainer. It'll come back around.
 

Will we ever witness a fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL Flight Trainer?

Dude, he said in this thread probably not, and that he was moving on.

[jdbailey1206]

You've got the coolest projects, Chuck. Sorry to hear about the Flight Trainer. It'll come back around.
 

Will we ever witness a fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL Flight Trainer?

Dude, he said in this thread probably not, and that he was moving on.

Yeah but most of what Le Chuck makes for himself is Star Wars oriented.  He also called this build 'Starfighter' and said he was going to have 'everything' from Star Wars to Star Fox.'  I, personally, am waiting for his Scooby Doo cab if he ever posts anything on it.

[yotsuya]

He stated he has personal reasons for deciding to not finish the Flight Trainer. We should respect that and let him move on. 

[pbj]

Oh no, we can't allow that.  We need to speculate.  Divorce?  Jail?  Troll hissy fit?  I've got a long list of accusations we could dust off and let him borrow.   

Stun Runner is a weird game that I could never decide if I liked or not.  This should be an interesting project.

 

[Generic Eric]

I've been making scifi puns for weeks, I'm not looking to make a disturbance.

 

[yotsuya]

I've been making scifi puns for weeks, I'm not looking to make a disturbance.

 

I hear you, bro. 

[Generic Eric]

I've always thought that machine had a strong snowmobile vibe.  You should embrace that.  I also think you should relocate the coin door.  Perhaps conceal it on the dash using one of smaller coin mechs, such as the ones used on mega touch machines. 

You  have jet on the back.  It is too bad there is no throttle so that you could make something light up when you increased the speed.

\edit: a letter & a word

[jdbailey1206]

I've been making scifi puns for weeks, I'm not looking to make a disturbance.

 

No one here is forcing you to make a disturbance.

[yotsuya]

I've always thought that machine had a strong snowmobile vibe.  You should embrace that.  I also think you should relocate the coin door.  Perhaps conceal it on the dash using one of smaller coin mechs, such as the ones used on mega touch machines. 

You have have jet on the back.  It is to bad there is no throttle so that you could make something light up when you increased the speed.

Those are some good ideas. If anyone could Griff it up right, it's LeChuck. 

[Le Chuck]

Quoted from the NRFT Thread to tie it all together.

In the past on this thread I've mentioned "crew" a few times.  My crew mate was Brent Nevels.  I bring this up now because Brent passed away this week due to complications related to pneumonia and a congenital heart valve defect.  He and I also coached our kids' baseball team together with another mate.  Brent was 27 years old, younger than I.  I've lost a lot of friends, mostly due to my line of work, but to lose one so young to disease always gives one pause.

I'll still be cranking away on this and I'll try to cover down on the technical aspects that Brent was helping out with, but I wanted to mention him because he was a part of this build for a while and will be missed.

Don't spend too much time in the shop guys.  There is a lot of life out there, go make sure you live it!   

I ended up doing a lot less cranking than I had told myself.  Decided it wasn't something I wanted to continue on just for the sake of doing it.  This shizzle is hobby, if you aren't loving every minute in the garage cobbling something together then you're cobbling on the wrong things.   

How firm is the seat? Is there padding there, or are you going to have sore nuts after hours of fun? 

Rock hard.  But over the years by nuts have taken quite a pounding... 

It is uncomfortable for long duration, there may be a custom padded bench seat in the future or there may be just a stadium pad thrown down for longer gaming sessions. 

I, personally, am waiting for his Scooby Doo cab if he ever posts anything on it.

It's in the queue, my kiddo keeps harping on it so it's not going away.  I've just been able to distract him with this build temporarily   

You have have jet on the back.  It is to bad there is no throttle so that you could make something light up when you increased the speed.

It does have a snowmobile vibe for sure.  What I do have en lieu of a throttle is a y-axis pot that I can tie into directly...

We shall see.  I don't think this is getting the full "griff treatement" but I'll try and include some nice touches 

[yotsuya]

Rock hard.  But over the years by nuts have taken quite a pounding... 

[Le Chuck]

Plastics and cabs have been sanded and repainted a few times now.  Last coat is drying. 

Installed the coin and start buttons on the CP plastic and mounted the speaker.  Realized I'll have to pull it all off when the t-molding arrives.  Doi. 

Also remounted the running boards' tread and metals.  Pulled the computer that's going in it but didn't install it yet so it's in a pile in the monitor housing. 

Made some good progress on the yoke+,  I'm adding a pushbutton to the left handle thumbpad area and an analog thumbstick to the right one.  That will allow me to play additional axis games like "Starfighter" and even games like Geometry Wars.  The thumbstick is a push button model and all the other inputs are being wired separately so in total I'll have 2 full analog axes and six digital inputs.  That should open up some space sims for this build, like that new Wings of St. Lazaire and the like.  I will try and have that completed this week, there's one aesthetic part I want but don't know if I'll be able to find one.  Yes I'm being unnecessarily cryptic but that's because I don't know what to call it.  It's to go between the thumbstick and the handle, kind of like the rubber gasket on the bottom of a floor model shifter on an old truck.  That black ruffly thing.  I need a tiny black ruffly thingy. 

<edit> Neoprene boot!  I need a wee neoprene boot, about 3/4" base and 3/8" high.  I've found some but they're all from those stores that want you to buy 10000 and don't list prices 

Once T-Molding arrives I'll get the monitor and PC mounted and get some fresh pics posted. 

Last thing - and I doubt most people made it this far in a post without pics but - what should I do with the coin door?  Keep it black so it kind of blends in?  Go silver with it?  White?  A combination thereof?  I'm kinda tired of plain coin doors.  I thought about filling in the area and leaving it out entirely but it seemed a waste to board it off. 

[yotsuya]

Coin door? Black, chrome, or GTFO. 

[mcseforsale]

Yeah!  Pics or it didn't happen!

AJ

[yotsuya]

Last thing - and I doubt most people made it this far in a post without pics but - what should I do with the coin door?  Keep it black so it kind of blends in?  Go silver with it?  White?  A combination thereof?  I'm kinda tired of plain coin doors.  I thought about filling in the area and leaving it out entirely but it seemed a waste to board it off.

To clarify, I've never seen a non-standard black or chrome coin door that looked good. Maybe because it's such a standard part with a distractive look. A black and blue barber's pole wouldn't look good, either. Stick with black, try a silver/chrome, or go without. My $0.02. 

[talkgeek]

- what should I do with the coin door?  Keep it black so it kind of blends in?  .....

My vote - Keep it Black (no extra work) if it blends in

[Xiaou2]

You could add 2 analog center pivot foot pedals.   Which could be used for anything from driving games, to rudders,  to pretty much anything...

Using a foot controlled axis, separate from the hand controls,  can often give you an accuracy and response that hand controls alone cant compare with.

[PL1]

there's one aesthetic part I want but don't know if I'll be able to find one.  Yes I'm being unnecessarily cryptic but that's because I don't know what to call it.  It's to go between the thumbstick and the handle, kind of like the rubber gasket on the bottom of a floor model shifter on an old truck.  That black ruffly thing.  I need a tiny black ruffly thingy. 

<edit> Neoprene boot!  I need a wee neoprene boot, about 3/4" base and 3/8" high.  I've found some but they're all from those stores that want you to buy 10000 and don't list prices 

Plug "switch boot" into Amazon FTW.

   



Scott

[Le Chuck]

You could add 2 analog center pivot foot pedals.   Which could be used for anything from driving games, to rudders,  to pretty much anything...

Using a foot controlled axis, separate from the hand controls,  can often give you an accuracy and response that hand controls alone cant compare with.

Actually thought about this when I was rebuilding the sides, even did a test piece where the monitor box extended down to the running boards for a more enclosed look.  Seemed like a good way to integrate pedals but didn't like the look so I tanked it.  If I added pedals it would open up a lot of games but if I do that then I should add a shifter and if I do that... not to say I didn't consider the idea long and hard tho. 

Plug "switch boot" into Amazon FTW.

See, that's why Saint pays you the big bucks to take care of us 

Who is better than Scott? Nobody, that's who!

[jdbailey1206]

I'm pretty sure Scott was an algorithm birthed by the internet to go and do good deeds to those of us who need the help.  A virtual Jesus if you will.   
I would put in my two cents for the coin door but I can't make an educated decision without seeing how you are going to do the rest of the artwork. 

[Generic Eric]

I'm pretty sure Scott was an algorithm birthed by the internet to go and do good deeds to those of us who need the help.  A virtual Jesus if you will.   
I would put in my two cents for the coin door but I can't make an educated decision without seeing how you are going to do the rest of the artwork.

Scott is a great guy.  But he is no Thomas A. Anderson.

[Xiaou2]

Not sure if you are on the same page...

 But I meant more like the pedals on a Speeder Bike.  They are in the rear...

 (watch jedi scene)

[Le Chuck]

Not how one sits on a stun runner, thanks for the ideas tho

[kahlid74]

Looking great man, keep on trucking.  Sorry to hear about your friend.  It can most certainly take the wind out of ones sails.

Plug "switch boot" into Amazon FTW.

   
Scott

Well, that's awesome.  I've been looking for these for a long time for the Battletech pod.  Thanks man!

[PL1]

Well, that's awesome.  I've been looking for these for a long time for the Battletech pod.  Thanks man!

Glad to assist.   


Scott

[Le Chuck]

Been able to get after a few things in the last bit - I have two other projects actively going and one on the burner right now so I've been multitasking like a mofo:


Got the yoke prepped and laid out to tackle assembly


If you need to replace your bumpers these are a great fit and a set of four will run you $6 at Lowes.  They are a little big but you can trim them if necessary. 


Thumb button installed


Interior view


Analog and trigger wired up together for the right hand grip.  Went to go hook it up to the kade+ for testing and realized that I don't have any 10k ohm resistors left in the house so I'll have to run to the Shack.  Kinda took the wind out of my sails as I was on a roll.  The cut away on the trigger mount is for analog clearance - it'll be a tight fit


These are the boots I went with for the analog stick, it's kind of of pricey for such a little piece but you get three to practice on.  I had to cut off the top ring to get the fit I wanted.  Pic is link fyi.

[Le Chuck]

Once I got the kadestick sorted I wired everything up for a test fit - had my axis reversed and on one pot I had the 5v and G reversed but that's why we test   


Here's where I began to build up the support.  I thought about using putty but hot glue a little at a time gave me a lot of control over how the support structure got built.  I wanted to ensure that the pots and pushbutton on the unit didn't get gummed up.  It was tedious but once I had a good base I was able to start using wood stints to help build up the area faster.  Of course if I ever have to change the unit out I'll probably just buy a new handle rather than fight that mess lol. 

That T-molding needs to hurry up and arrive so I can mount the monitor and get this show on the road!


Now we're getting somewhere.  The boot around the analog stick needs to be glued down as there is a little bit of lift at the corners but I'll wait until I do the final test to do that. 

[Xiaou2]

Stun Runner was pretty boring to me.  It could have had potential..  with some changes.

 Def. needs a motion tube.   Maybe a nearly lay down position seat-swing..  that travels via motor in a full +6ft diameter loop.
That or a skateboard version of it... but the 15ft diameter would be hard to house.  heh

[Le Chuck]

T-molding came in today!  Couldn't help but get it installed tonight and snapping a few pics.  Yoke is just show mounted for now, monitor if mounted but the boards are just sitting in the back.  I have a black out template for the speaker grill but liked how it looked with the white showing through.  That may get a stencil job before the end too - we'll see.  Next up is the bezel and coin door.  Then I'll fiddle with the kickplate panel and start wiring it all together - I really should start working on the art for this   

To be clear I haven't fired it up yet but I'm pretty sure SW is going to be straight up sick on this thing 

[Generic Eric]

That is the Z-74 I was looking for!

 


Looking good.   

[Superfrog]

I'm not a Star Wars fan, but I like this one 

[talkgeek]

way cool  - was already following, but have just added it to my daily task reminder to check 

[jdbailey1206]

Stun Runner was pretty boring to me.  It could have had potential..  with some changes.

[rockyrocket]

Dude, just saw this one  - subscribed!.

[opt2not]

Me too!  I'm interested. 
Nice progress so far.

[Le Chuck]

I've been busy lately and since this is my "idle fingers" project it hasn't been getting much love.  I finished a project for a member here and am working on another commission piece now; however, I have found some time to work on the FE (big thanks to Arximidis for all his work on that HTML5 FE of his) and tonight I finally klugged together what I think is a passable startup video.  Used a lot of handbrake, vlc, and windows movie maker to get this rolling but I think it strikes a good balance.  Whatchya think?

[ark_ader]

Robert Preston never sounded so good.  Nice job. 

Is it too late to put forth some suggestions?

Can you put floor pedals on the sides of the cab like on the Imperial Speeder Bike so you can play flight Sims and racing games?

Put in a proper back support and house a woofer for feedback in game, or a knocker like in steel talons?

Turn the cab into a proper cockpit like the one below without the wings?   

[Le Chuck]

Finishing up a commission piece this weekend and immediately starting another. I'll be tackling two pedestal builds at once. My fingers have been decidedly un-idle but I'll still be tinkering away at this catch as catch can. In think June will be the month to get this one wrapped.

[stigzler]

Liking this one....

[Le Chuck]

Been making some progress









Done so far:

Wiring, body work, all controls, coin door, a lot of clean up

Still to do:

FE work, game installation and setup, repaint the CP and seat. 

I had it gloss white and changed it to flat white because I thought I'd like it better.  While it looks great the gloss gave such a more resilient durable finish so I'll take the plastics off and redo them.  It's not that much work and I'll be much happier with it once finished. 

I would like to eventually like to switch the TV in the unit out for a better monitor but finding el-cheapo 25" monitors can be tricky. 

Now I need to start on the art.  By the way, I'm totally up for recommendations on the art.  I have a very blank slate right now so I can go any which way.  Starfighter is the general theme but it doesn't have to be "Last Starfighter" gunstar, it can be anything really.  I'll play with some ideas and get some options posted later.   

[yotsuya]

Looks great. You should totally go Gunstar theme, though. 

[mcseforsale]

+1.  Looks REALLY good. 

AJ

[Slippyblade]

Looking good.  Poor R2 in the background looks lonely though.

Totally jealous of your workspace!

[wp34]

Looks great Le Chuck.  I have to say I prefer your color scheme a little to the original. 

I'm jealous of your son.  Can you imagine growing up in a house with an R2D2?   

[rockyrocket]

I like the colors/graphic here...

[Le Chuck]

Looking good.  Poor R2 in the background looks lonely though.

Totally jealous of your workspace!

Naw, he's got a regular drinking buddy now he'll be okay!  As for the space, the house we own now has a great space above the garage for all my stuff but that is kid-land so I told the wife she could have the rest of the house - I was taking the garage.  All of it.  Rain or shine.  It's a shaky truce but the accord has held these last few years.  She knows that if she parks in my work area a pin is going into the bedroom alcove (pretty much an office) where the dogs sleep. 

Looks great Le Chuck.  I have to say I prefer your color scheme a little to the original. 

I'm jealous of your son.  Can you imagine growing up in a house with an R2D2?   

Yeah, the original was a shape I loved with a scheme I hated.  I can't tell you how much better it feels with a 25" in it too, really brings you into the game.  I went with 30% tinted glass too, it really makes it pop. 

Looks great. You should totally go Gunstar theme, though. 

I like the colors/graphic here...

Yot, and Rocky - yeah it's just too good a theme to pass up really.  I have that same image saved in a half dozen folders all over my computer right now lol.  It'll be a trick to implement it right but I think it'll be worth it.  Who wants to get started while I play some games

+1.  Looks REALLY good. 

AJ

  You're welcome to come play a game anytime man.  Just jump on the highway and head SW for 90min or so. 

[mcseforsale]

I know...damn!  Addicted to mountain biking right now.  Been riding 3-4 times a week.  Picked up a nasty spider bite this week though.  I've been taking copious amounts of steriods and antibiotics and I feel like crap.  Plus, I've been on the wagon for the last 4 months, so I'm bored.  I did trade an arcade shell for this:



I have it "for sale" on craigs...for a bit too much.    I had to rebuild the carb and head, but it starts on the first kick with no choke.  So, I've been "keeping it running" for the last few weeks by driving it around the neighborhood.  What the heck...kids aren't interested in it anyway. 



AJ

[rockyrocket]

How about an LED ring or two as thrusters out the back?

[Le Chuck]

Those LED rings could be fun - I'll have to play with the design, I'm leaning towards a subdued palette but a splash of color might be just what the doctor ordered, or some nice white rings.  Ooooh, white rings. 

Game setup has been going well.  Mame was a cinch, N64 still needs a little tweaking on the C buttons, just to get it to play natural on the yoke+ (starfox should have always been C^ for boost and Cv for brake.  SW Racer works a charm and is an absolute blast, Trilogy on Supermodel took me a while to get the X-axis calibrated well and I think I'll go ahead and toss on a new X-pot when I redo the plastics as there is a bit of jitter that isn't due to software.  Really the only games giving me any headache right now are Wings of St. Nazaire - because it requires a mouse to navigate the menus (must complain to the devs), and Rogue Squadron 3D because it's dumb and doesn't want to use a joystick at all.  Still fiddling with that one, may get a full joytokey mapping. 

[Generic Eric]

Those LED rings could be fun - I'll have to play with the design, I'm leaning towards a subdued palette but a splash of color might be just what the doctor ordered, or some nice white rings.  Ooooh, white rings. 

Game setup has been going well.  Mame was a cinch, N64 still needs a little tweaking on the C buttons, just to get it to play natural on the yoke+ (starfox should have always been C^ for boost and Cv for brake.  SW Racer works a charm and is an absolute blast, Trilogy on Supermodel took me a while to get the X-axis calibrated well and I think I'll go ahead and toss on a new X-pot when I redo the plastics as there is a bit of jitter that isn't due to software.  Really the only games giving me any headache right now are Wings of St. Nazaire - because it requires a mouse to navigate the menus (must complain to the devs), and Rogue Squadron 3D because it's dumb and doesn't want to use a joystick at all.  Still fiddling with that one, may get a full joytokey mapping.

Hope you get St. Nazaire squared away.  Can something like PPjoy save the day? *I just read about ppjoy, I knew it was a thing but didn't realize how long ago it went open source. 

[dkersten]

Why does R2 look like a kegerator now?

(BTW, I am a fan of your work, great stuff!)

*Edit:  I just saw your other thread and saw that you indeed changed him into a kegerator.. On the one hand, that would be pretty friggin cool, but on the other hand I really loved your idea to have him as a projector.  Although frankly when I first read your thread on that whole build I wondered how you could ever do a projector with a CP attached and not have the display jumping all over the place.   I figured just the computer and projector was bad ass enough, but hey, a man needs refreshment too, and with the amount of work you put into that, you are entitled to do whatever the heck you want with it.  Now you need to add some robotics so you can have him drive over to you whenever you need a refill....

[Slippyblade]

Now you need to add some robotics so you can have him drive over to you whenever you need a refill....

Oh my god, that would be the coolest thing EVER!  "R2, beer me!"  and he scuttles over to you for a fill up.

[rockyrocket]

Really the only games giving me any headache right now are Wings of St. Nazaire - because it requires a mouse to navigate the menus (must complain to the devs), and Rogue Squadron 3D because it's dumb and doesn't want to use a joystick at all.  Still fiddling with that one, may get a full joytokey mapping.

Funny its the other way for me - Wings won`t map to my Apac natively, but works okish mapping to keys with Xpadder, but Rogue worked OOTB?.
Anyone used Vjoy much?.

[Le Chuck]

Really the only games giving me any headache right now are Wings of St. Nazaire - because it requires a mouse to navigate the menus (must complain to the devs), and Rogue Squadron 3D because it's dumb and doesn't want to use a joystick at all.  Still fiddling with that one, may get a full joytokey mapping.

Funny its the other way for me - Wings won`t map to my Apac natively, but works okish mapping to keys with Xpadder, but Rogue worked OOTB?.
Anyone used Vjoy much?.

I haven't used VJoy at all - might need to.  Wings maps fine, just that the menus require a mouse and if I do a J2K map for that it'll mess up the controls in the actual game.  I talked to the devs and they said that they're implementing joystick navigation in the next update whenever that is.  In the mean time I'll just leave the wifi mini keypad nearby. 

Rogue sees the KADE analog inputs but not the digital (odd) however when I start a game none of the controls work - even the ones I was able to map.  There are a few things I can try within the game's settings first that I was reading about but if those don't work I might do a full keyboard map - if Rogue will even see the emulated keys

HTML FE was the QT version and was giving me a few minor headaches so I reformated to W7 32 bit.  I had been XP64.  I really need to dig up a copy of W7 64 so I'm not letting resources sit unused.  I'll be getting the updated FE installed tonight and hopefully I'll be back on track.  This coming weekend I'll do the plastics repainting and start on the art hopefully. 

[PL1]

Rogue sees the KADE analog inputs but not the digital (odd) however when I start a game none of the controls work - even the ones I was able to map.  There are a few things I can try within the game's settings first that I was reading about but if those don't work I might do a full keyboard map - if Rogue will even see the emulated keys

Kevin mentioned that this post might be helpful.

Please let us know if you figure out a fix.   


Scott

[Le Chuck]

Rogue sees the KADE analog inputs but not the digital (odd) however when I start a game none of the controls work - even the ones I was able to map.  There are a few things I can try within the game's settings first that I was reading about but if those don't work I might do a full keyboard map - if Rogue will even see the emulated keys

Kevin mentioned that this post might be helpful.

Please let us know if you figure out a fix.   


Scott

That's what I was referring to also - great minds huh?

FYI if you're using a KADE+ that works, click on defaults and away you go.  It's not perfect but it's very playable if you have enough buttons hooked up.  I'd say that without a 4 axis mod to your yoke (Yoke+) it isn't playable as of yet.  Also, map all your buttons to the lowest numbers on the KADE with your primary trigger to B1.  You can't remap in Rogue but you can at least flip and unflip axes so that's good.  It's really frustrating for all the buttons but at least it works.  I'll need to get a few missions in just to make sure I don't need to map anything differently (should be able to through J2K) but for right now it works - which is cool. 

Star Wars Racer is still my favorite game right now - 1st person gameplay on the yoke is insane.  Just installed Nitronic Rush, now I need to go get that Xbox joy emulating program and see how that works as Nitronic requires the Xbox controller to work.  Won't see the Kade at all. 

I have a few other games to set up but the only big one left to get working is Last Starfighter by Rogue Synapse.  The mapping program doesn't see the KADE either but that's okay because it's only true analog on one axis anway.  I'll do a full J2K map on that and see if I can get it working - if not it's no big loss.  The theme is better than the game lol. 

There are some other steam games I want to get working but I'll need that Xbox Joy thingymajigger working first since so many of those require it.   

[yotsuya]

I have a few other games to set up but the only big one left to get working is Last Starfighter by Rogue Synapse.  The mapping program doesn't see the KADE either but that's okay because it's only true analog on one axis anway.  I'll do a full J2K map on that and see if I can get it working - if not it's no big loss.  The theme is better than the game lol. 

Amen, bro. So much this!

[Le Chuck]

Nitronic Rush works with x360ce - it's a blast - you'll need to map an "enter" key to one of your buttons to navigate.  You can use the joy to move through menus but stupidly you can select anything without enter or a right click it seems.  That's okay because Nitronic doesn't see the enter key once you're in the game so it doesn't mess anything up. 

Played through first mission of Rogue then it crashed in the second mission - threw out several errors.  I'll take a better look at that later. 

Downloading a patch for Shadows so that should be up tomorrow.

Did I mention SW Racer is a total blast on this build?  Still loving it. 

Dyad, Geometry Wars, and some other little games are on and working great. 

N64 games are pretty fun too on it - Star Fox for me and I added Mario Kart for the boys (and me ). 

Just need to get the last few little issues sorted out with the FE and I should be a wrap on software. 

[Le Chuck]

Did a lot of game installation this week/weekend.  Sonic and the Sega All-Stars Racing Transformed is awesome.  If you have a driving cab and you don't have this then shame on you.  It's like Mario Kart on speed.  Plus racing as Wreck-it-Ralph in what looks to be Mater the Tow-Truck with a spiked wrecking ball on the back is way too much cross-over to not be tried.  Also, it is a giant whorey beyotch to get running with the KADE+, or any no xbox controller for that matter.  X360CE needs some special tweaking for that one. 

Uploaded a bunch of gun games and discovered that only positional gun games are fun on the yoke.  All the light gun games are just annoying.  Right now I've got T2, House of the Dead 3 (not a positional but optimized for PC and plays just like one what with the auto reload), Alien 3 the Gun, Space Gun, and Jurassic Park running - if anybody knows any other positional gun games (PC or otherwise) let me know.  They're a big hit.

Fiddled with Nitronic Rush some more and it's really fun on the cab - just took some tweaking to get the right controller setup.  I need to look at updating the Yoke+ to analog triggers.  Wonder how I would do that and if the Kade+ firmware can take two more axes (one axis for each trigger).  Would be a huge help in all the racing games as right now I have to feather the throttle because it's all or nothing.   

Probably the biggest hit so far has been Midway's Hydro-Thunder.  Everybody has logged at least a dozen races on that over the last week.  I really really wish I could find an analog version of Off-Road Thunder.  The Midway classics III version is only digital which blows goats on a yoke.  Barring any weird software issues this week I should finally be starting on the art for this badboy soon. 

[rockyrocket]

Did a lot of game installation this week/weekend.  Sonic and the Sega All-Stars Racing Transformed is awesome.  If you have a driving cab and you don't have this then shame on you.  It's like Mario Kart on speed

Consider me shamed and sitting in the corner - but I am fixing that right now.

I need to look at updating the Yoke+ to analog triggers.  Wonder how I would do that

Yep the more I use my yoke the more I am convinced its the most accurate controller yet, and I have a fancy X52 PRO HOTAS to compare it to.
Someone needs to produce a contemporary yoke with a throttle and all the bells and whistles.

But whilst we are dreaming about that happening ben heck did a keyboard hack to make the WASD keys analog that may be of interest?.

EDIT, so I just rewatched that episode and I guess that for your needs you could just pull out the shoulder buttons from a  USB xbox 360 pad - but then you have two controllers connected.

[Le Chuck]

Well, the AVR that the KADE+ is on has room for six axes, just need to get Sharpfork or Degenatrons or somebody to add the other two into the firmware.  Then it's an easy three wire hook up - I just need to find drop in units that will work.  I imagine that those small surface mount pots would work well and I could attach it to the anchor post for the trigger - or use linear slide pots at the base of the trigger.  I'd keep a digital input as well. 

The other adjustment to the yoke+ would be adding a digital direction (POV HAT) thumb stick to the left handle.  That would create four more inputs.  All this is theoretical for now - I just got the unit playing good there is no way I'm ripping it down and going back to prototyping.  I'm just psyched I got the right handle analog thumbstick working so I can get after N64 and newer games with my yoke. 

[Santoro]

Subscribe.

[BadMouth]

Did a lot of game installation this week/weekend.  Sonic and the Sega All-Stars Racing Transformed is awesome.  If you have a driving cab and you don't have this then shame on you.  It's like Mario Kart on speed.  Plus racing as Wreck-it-Ralph in what looks to be Mater the Tow-Truck with a spiked wrecking ball on the back is way too much cross-over to not be tried.  Also, it is a giant whorey beyotch to get running with the KADE+, or any no xbox controller for that matter.  X360CE needs some special tweaking for that one. 

I never did get it figured out for the G27.  The clutch pedal was showing up as some hard coded axis and screwed stuff up.
I gave up since you need a yoke for some parts anyway.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,134827.msg1391185.html#msg1391185

[Le Chuck]

Ever since getting Starfighter into it's super clean black and white state it's been hard for me find a design I like.  Here's the yoke overlay I've been toying with. 

 

I think keeping the color to a minimum and just going with a very high contrast design might be the way to go - thoughts?

[yotsuya]

I really like the second one. 

Needs more shading, though, brah. 

[Malenko]

lose the red or the blue, or have more of one than the other.

[yotsuya]

lose the red or the blue, or have more of one than the other.

I disagree. I think to stay to the logo, you need an equal amount of both.

[Le Chuck]

Option 3 added to the above.

[Slippyblade]

I like #2. 

#1 feels too empty, #3...  too busy.

[Louis Tully]

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[PL1]

IMHO #2 is in the "Goldilocks" zone.


Scott

[yotsuya]

Personally, I like #3.

[Malenko]

from 2 to 3, lose the extra blue, keep the extra red, call it option 4

[dkersten]

Needs more shading, though, brah. 

I lol'd.. 

[Le Chuck]

[Malenko]

I like #3 of ^those

[PL1]

I like #3 of ^those

+1


Scott

[Generic Eric]

Do you have a sketch up model you could layer that on?  I mean, I can't even make a cube in sketchup.  But your close.   

What does the rest of the art look like?

[rockyrocket]

I like the middle one best - mostly because the top star looks crisper in white to me.

[Le Chuck]

Do you have a sketch up model you could layer that on?  I mean, I can't even make a cube in sketchup.  But your close.   

What does the rest of the art look like?

Rest of the art?  One step at a time man   And nah, me and sketchup don't really get along, for stuff like this it just is an unnecessary extra step.  The Yoke Overlay will determine the rest of the art.  I'll start at the focal point and build out around it. 

I appreciate all the feedback everybody!  Thanks!!

[Generic Eric]

Do you have a sketch up model you could layer that on?  I mean, I can't even make a cube in sketchup.  But your close.   

What does the rest of the art look like?

Rest of the art?  One step at a time man   And nah, me and sketchup don't really get along, for stuff like this it just is an unnecessary extra step.  The Yoke Overlay will determine the rest of the art.  I'll start at the focal point and build out around it. 

I appreciate all the feedback everybody!  Thanks!!

For the record, I like 3.  Thanks for sharing your progress.

[Madaracs]

Ever since getting Starfighter into it's super clean black and white state it's been hard for me find a design I like.  Here's the yoke overlay I've been toying with. 

I think keeping the color to a minimum and just going with a very high contrast design might be the way to go - thoughts?

I like the 3rd one in this post (#81.)  You have to remember that once this is on the yoke, it will not look that busy.

[Malenko]

now that I look at it again, 3rd one still, but make the star white

[Le Chuck]

now that I look at it again, 3rd one still, but make the star white

I got it applied a bit back and then ripped it right off.  The center was just a bit oversized and the outline wrapped around the bend to the top and bottom.  Didn't like it in color either.  Minor changes, will get the new one up.  More black, less white, no color.  In space no one can hue. 

[Malenko]

needs more gradients.

[Slippyblade]

needs more gradients shading.

FTFY

 

[yotsuya]

PICK U P AN ART BOOK!!!1111

[Vigo]

Sigh. I bet you don't even know the difference between scumble shading and a contour shading. 

[Le Chuck]

Isn't a scrumble that thing in rugby where all the men rub together?

[rockyrocket]

[Generic Eric]

now that I look at it again, 3rd one still, but make the star white

I got it applied a bit back and then ripped it right off.  The center was just a bit oversized and the outline wrapped around the bend to the top and bottom.  Didn't like it in color either.  Minor changes, will get the new one up.  More black, less white, no color.  In space no one can hue.

[wp34]

I got to play a dedicated Stun Runner last week in Chicago and thought of Le Chuck's project.  Any updates?

[Le Chuck]

I got to play a dedicated Stun Runner last week in Chicago and thought of Le Chuck's project.  Any updates?

Still woefully plain and unadorned and totally playable

I have some ideas for the art but haven't found the time to get to it this past several months. 

[yotsuya]

I got to play a dedicated Stun Runner last week in Chicago and thought of Le Chuck's project.  Any updates?

Still woefully plain and unadorned and totally playable

I have some ideas for the art but haven't found the time to get to it this past several months.

Dammit, bro, PM me your snail mail address again. I got some stuff for you.

[Le Chuck]

I got to play a dedicated Stun Runner last week in Chicago and thought of Le Chuck's project.  Any updates?

Still woefully plain and unadorned and totally playable

I have some ideas for the art but haven't found the time to get to it this past several months.

Dammit, bro, PM me your snail mail address again. I got some stuff for you.

Okeyday!

[wp34]

Still woefully plain and unadorned and totally playable

Been there done that.   

We were at the Galloping Ghost arcade and were able to play Star Wars, Jedi and Stun Runner.  I kept thinking how cool your project was since you will be able to play all three.