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RoToron ロトロン ...with video update...
« on: August 21, 2018, 09:37:23 pm »
Some nine years ago I posted my Retro-Futuristic MAME cabinet project called Astro - http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,88912.msg933239.html#msg933239

It was a curvy very different looking thing with a half spherical top to it and a rotating monitor.  The project went on and on slowly losing momentum, never quite finished. It had issues, some of which I shared here, some of which I didnít.  The thread grew popular and LONG (to many pages) early on I posted almost daily progress with lots of detail of my ways of woodworking, painting and fabricating parts.  I gained a lot of experience and learning along the way, problematically this also meant I became increasingly critical of my own early work as my skills grew.  Circumstance happened to move against me and the project foundered.  So Astro died lying in a corner gathering dust neglected and forgotten.
 
One day I pondered, ďwhat if I could just fix anything and everything that bothered me about this project?" Issues like warping of timbers over many years, cracking of joints, aesthetics and functionality I no longer cared for.
 
Iíve been a fan of retro futurism for years, I also grew up in arcades and around arcade machines in the late 70ís and 80ís.  I was never much of a gamer I just hung out with my friends in these places, I have that nostalgic view of the golden age of arcades because I was there. The future that people in the post war US imagined in the 50ís and 60ís interests me.   Movies like Forbidden Planet, posters, artwork and in particularly advertising from the period.  I wanted to apply that baby boomer vision onto an alternate universe of arcade game design.  A world where arcade games were conceived in the late 50ís right alongside the family television.  What would it look like?  What would promotional flyers and advertising look like?  For this to be fun again the project had to have a strong theme, a (fictional) background and point of conception.  When it was all complete I imagined the machine, the company that manufactures it, advertising brochures and ancillary props like a comic book and collectibles to go with it.  I called the re-born retro-futuristic alternative universe multi-game playing machineÖÖÖ


I have new self- imposed rules for project progress.  Hi realism render posts are not allowed and are for my own design purposes only.
Designs are just CAD style line art shown here:


The coin slot motif also had to be re-fashioned and re-imagined.  Within the Sprocket Rocket sits the Core.  The Core provides the (fictional) power source to RoToron.  I imagined something like Hals eye combined with Iron Manís cold fusion reactor.


Iím currently working on the old husk of the cabinet body. The top spherical shell is in excellent condition due to its tough covering of fibre glass.   The bottom section not so good.  Iíve decided to give the entire bottom section a skin of fibre glass.  Next .... the new shell.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2018, 08:00:12 am by Ond »
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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2018, 09:50:16 pm »
 :applaud:  :applaud:
Can't wait to see more. Totally understand losing interest on a project that doesn't feel right. At the end of the day you want to stand back and admire your work not have second guesses on what you should have done. Looking forward to the progress Ond.

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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2018, 12:28:28 am »
Subscribed! haha! This will be another great ride!

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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2018, 01:11:15 am »
Along for the ride...looking forward to updates..

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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2018, 07:22:26 am »
Also subscribing.   :cheers:

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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2018, 07:56:31 am »
Looking forward to enjoying this thread!

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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2018, 10:19:41 am »
Welcome back!  Looking forward to following this build again.   :cheers:

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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2018, 11:53:39 am »
Also subbed. Good to see you're back  :cheers:

I'm in awe of the design/build work you did before so looking forwards to seeing more!

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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2018, 04:38:56 pm »
Iím in on this too. Welcome back! I was away for a while too but you never quite lose the arcade bug.

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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2018, 06:13:29 pm »
and just like that the standards get raised again.  :cheers:
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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2018, 07:21:08 pm »
Dude made an Arc-Reactor for his Arcade Machine.  :applaud:
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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2018, 07:39:28 pm »
Dude made an Arc-Reactor for his Arcade Machine.  :applaud:

Not only that - he goes on to dock it in the pocket of the Sprocket Rocket socket.   :o



This is looking amazing.  How'd you get the rotary indexing so precise in that dremel tool jig?  The slots seem to step around the circumference perfectly. 

I'm looking forward to watching this project take shape, but I don't mean that to be putting pressure on you.  I maintain that you are doing us a favor by sharing your work here, and you don't owe us a thing.  It's an honor to watch your craft in progress.  Thank you for that.   :cheers:

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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2018, 07:44:00 pm »
Not keen on the name though....

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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2018, 08:13:18 pm »
and just like that the standards get raised again.  :cheers:

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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2018, 08:43:19 pm »
Thanks for hopping on board folks, here we go (again). Iíll answer direct build questions as I go.

Over the next few weeks Iíll be working on two main parts of the cab:
1.   The revised coin plate - THE CORE - build.


2.   The lower shell restoration and fibre glass cladding


This project is essentially a restoration with the opportunity to improve on design flaws and some aesthetics. Itís also a way for me to restore much of what was lost from the original project thread but in a more concise way.  Occasionally Iíll show some historic build images for clarity and understanding of the part Iím working on.

What this project is not.  Itís a not a traditional arcade machine DIY build.  For that you can check out my Metropolis project.  Itís an imagined design that might have happened if say the curvy Computer Space cabinet had evolved further instead of companies going the way of mass produced particle board box cabinets which was obviously far more commercially viable.

The original shell was built on a sub frame of hardwood around which plywood was attached covered in Bondo then primed and painted to a fine polished plastic like surface.  The curved plywood under tension began to show lamination ruptures after extremes in the weather over a long period of time. This was ALWAYS going to be an issue.  A very disappointing one, and a key factor in my not finishing the original cab.



Warning:  The following images are not for the faint hearted!  The lower shell has to be stripped of paint and then roughened up with 60 grade sandpaper.  This is so that fibre glass matting and resin will adhere really well to the surface. The outer shell will only be a few millimetres thick but it will be very tough.  It will be a superior surface to apply primer and paint to.


Dude made an Arc-Reactor for his Arcade Machine.  :applaud:

Not only that - he goes on to dock it in the pocket of the Sprocket Rocket socket.   :o


This is looking amazing.  How'd you get the rotary indexing so precise in that dremel tool jig?  The slots seem to step around the circumference perfectly. 

I'm looking forward to watching this project take shape, but I don't mean that to be putting pressure on you.  I maintain that you are doing us a favor by sharing your work here, and you don't owe us a thing.  It's an honor to watch your craft in progress.  Thank you for that.   :cheers:

The Core is composed of a number of different parts.  There is the "eye" which is fashioned from different coloured acrylic plastic and LED lit from behind.  There is the clear acrylic disc which is centre lit by the "arc reactor" LEDS.  I made a tool for engraving this from German construction kit parts.  The secret part is a cog underneath the disc which engages the plastic spring insert.  Turn the disc one notch and engrave to set depth producing the result you see.  The most complex part is the rotating LED disc.  This was made from a cut down PC fan which I then added two slip rings to to allow power to the surface mounted LEDS you see.  The rotating LEDS project onto a thin screen within the unit. The whole thing running is really nice to look at but it is still a work in progress. Stay tuned for more on that.


Not keen on the name though....

Sorry, no apologies for the name, it will have to grow on ya.  8)


« Last Edit: August 22, 2018, 08:46:08 pm by Ond »
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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2018, 09:03:30 pm »
Warning:  The following images are not for the faint hearted!  The lower shell has to be stripped of paint and then roughened up with 60 grade sandpaper...

Yeah, this is Ond, alright.  He removes better paint jobs than I'll ever achieve. :)

I dig the slip rings for the physically animated light.

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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2018, 03:08:48 am »
This grinder and I are going to become very well aquainted over the next few weeks.  It will be the tool of choice to cut back to raw rough timber as well as to rough shape fibreglass.  Previously when I worked fibreglass all I had to use was a sanding disc on a drill, fibreglass is way harder than wood but my new friend will cut through it with ease.


Here's the lower cabinet shell just after some work with the grinder.  No trace of paint any more.


Application of fibreglass is messy, difficult and looks ugly as hell.  I'm glad I've got this process going, now I'll just keep at it till it's done.  I use both the rough fibreglass mat and the more supple woven fibreglass cloth (seen here).  The cloth is great for corners and angles so I start with that first.


Here's a flash back to when I constructed the top hemispherical shell in MDF, Aluminium and fibreglass so you can see the process and end result. I'm better at this process now than I was back then  ;D .

Construct frame from form cut ribbing in thin MDF.

Clad with thin aluminium sheet, press curved to form the shape required.

Apply fibreglass - this is matting, which is tricky to bend around corners.

Apply Bondo and then primer coat with lots of wet sanding between coats.

Paint and polish.  Volia!

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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2018, 07:47:20 am »
The man's an artist!

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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2018, 07:50:50 am »
Did you hand cut all them ribs,or do you use a cnc  setup?

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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2018, 07:59:24 am »
That is very nice work. I need to learn how to do the finish work correctly.

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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2018, 08:10:41 am »
 :notworthy: :dizzy: :drool

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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2018, 08:52:46 am »
Heh, I had to put something sexy in this thread, damn thing is butt ugly right now.  BTW people my original Retro-Futuristic Mame Cabinet thread is now linked in the first post with some images in that thread (just a few) restored.

Did you hand cut all them ribs,or do you use a cnc  setup?

They are all hand cut. I wish I did have a CNC life would be so much easier.

:notworthy: :dizzy: :drool

What planet are you from?

Planet Zircon buddy ... :cheers:

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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2018, 09:01:17 am »
If you ever need something CNC'd I might be able to do it for you. My work envelope is 24 inches by 12. The 12 inch axis is pass through, so I can go 24 by a lot more. I am an amateur CNC operator at best. It is not my profession.

I also have a CO2 laser. I have done small jobs for a few forum members.

You have the skill set to cut that stuff by hand, it doesn't mean you always want to. ;D

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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2018, 09:09:37 am »
If you ever need something CNC'd I might be able to do it for you. My work envelope is 24 inches by 12. The 12 inch axis is pass through, so I can go 24 by a lot more. I am an amateur CNC operator at best. It is not my profession.

I also have a CO2 laser. I have done small jobs for a few forum members.

You have the skill set to cut that stuff by hand, it doesn't mean you always want to. ;D

Thanks for the offer Mike - very generous.  Actually I did have some acrylic cut several years ago by member Selfie.  He specialises in cutting plastic.  This was for my Xenolix bar top project.  During the course of that project I accidentally damaged some of the letters he cut me.  Can you cut Acrylic? There's no way in the world to hand cut those letters.
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2018, 09:13:02 am »
Yes I can laser cut acrylic. If you PM me your email address, I can send you some pics of stuff I have done. I can cut and etch acrylic.

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« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2018, 09:13:09 am »
Ond I'm interested in the rib method you've used. Are you using a router to template them. How do you get each one exact. What's maintaining it's form without the aluminium.
Did you go for this method for strength. If it was to be fiberglass you'd think you could form a rough done out of metal and then smooth off to finish with fibreglass..

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« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2018, 09:17:17 am »
Yes I can laser cut acrylic. If you PM me your email address, I can send you some pics of stuff I have done. I can cut and etch acrylic.

No lexan or you will kill Mike :)
   

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« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2018, 09:31:33 am »
Ond I'm interested in the rib method you've used. Are you using a router to template them. How do you get each one exact. What's maintaining it's form without the aluminium.
Did you go for this method for strength. If it was to be fiberglass you'd think you could form a rough done out of metal and then smooth off to finish with fibreglass..

I used a template to cut each rib with my router using a flush trim bit.  In fact I use this method for any form cutting of MDF such as the sprocket rocket at the start of this thread.  They are interlocked with rebates on each rib and glued with MDF glue - very strong once the glue is dry. The thin aluminium was an excellent material to use because it can be slightly shaped as each section is applied (screwed on) making a good lightweight spherical shape and forming a good base for the much stronger fibreglass.   :cheers:

Yes I can laser cut acrylic. If you PM me your email address, I can send you some pics of stuff I have done. I can cut and etch acrylic.

No lexan or you will kill Mike :)

Heh, no it's semi opaque Acrylic I need cut.  rablack97 my man, you have become an excellent and impressive builder good to see you still here.  :cheers:
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« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2018, 09:46:04 am »
Good to see you back at it sir,....needed some stability around here.

Thanks for the compliment, i try, been taking a break, gonna start up another one soon.

Probably get some more ideas watching this thread :cheers:
   

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« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2018, 02:19:15 pm »
woah woah woah.. what the hell is happening here? This looks amazing. :applaud:

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« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2018, 02:25:51 pm »
Clad with thin aluminium sheet, press curved to form the shape required.

While everyone is ogling at the craftsmanship... I'm still trying to figure out how this pic was taken...
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« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2018, 02:38:57 pm »
camera on a tripod with time delay?
   

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« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2018, 05:06:04 pm »
camera on a tripod with time delay?

Nope, I think that Ond is a Cyborg Arcade Machine builder who has been sent to us from the future to show us how things should be done. So he just winked once and his right eye took a photo which he then uploaded using his Thumb drive, Literally his Thumb :)

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« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2018, 06:09:15 pm »
I'm glad you're back to expand the minds of these noobs. and I mean noobs in the most affectionate way possible.

Also, the name is fine. Better than putting something-cade on it. Cade, cade, cade...retro, classic, cade, cade, cade. pancade, with added syrup and butter.  That should be the name of this. That, or Usual Suspects-cade...I'm sure DrakeT would approve.

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« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2018, 06:54:32 pm »
Can't believe this was nine years ago. I have lurked a long time but did not realize it had been this long. You were working on the original when I first read the book and started checking out the forum. Your projects were some of the reasons I wanted to build my own. Followed your entire Metropolis design. Can't wait to see you rework this one. Subscribed. 

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« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2018, 07:16:41 pm »
camera on a tripod with time delay?

Nope, I think that Ond is a Cyborg Arcade Machine builder who has been sent to us from the future to show us how things should be done. So he just winked once and his right eye took a photo which he then uploaded using his Thumb drive, Literally his Thumb :)

Wrong, those hands are from the cyborg Ond created to help him build Arcade Machines.
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« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2018, 07:40:26 pm »
OK I will just say it.... Jennifer is not a fan of that coin door, it seems like it tries too hard to compete with the simplistic beauty of the rest of the cab, and think it looks better without it, However the concept is cool, and still could be incorporated utilizing holograms, mirror projection, lazers or possibly even leds (the last 2 would most likely be a diffuser type setup) IMO.... The cab, OMG thought I would never see that thing again, so reminiscent of my days at classic roadster, design concepts in glass OMG!.... As A 1 off, that is an impressive build to be sure, as a plug it would be a 2 part mold with replication in mind (A lesson learned the really hard way) But ultimately you could spray the mold out with Gelcoat, (like a boat) and not useing paint at all and make as many as you wanted....Glad to see you back friend. ;D   

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« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2018, 09:15:47 pm »
I'm glad you're back to expand the minds of these noobs. and I mean noobs in the most affectionate way possible.

Also, the name is fine. Better than putting something-cade on it. Cade, cade, cade...retro, classic, cade, cade, cade. pancade, with added syrup and butter.  That should be the name of this. That, or Usual Suspects-cade...I'm sure DrakeT would approve.

Much affection for NOOBS here too.  :)  RoToron is a complete creative package.  The name reflects the rotation aspect of the cab (duh) but itís also meant to be fun.  Something a kid would remember, something you can make a jingle around etc.  opt2not is spot on with the whole ďcadeĒ thing.  That name is just plain worn out.  In Ondís alternate universe the Retro-Future envisioned in the 50s came true. The Jetsons is a reality TV show not a cartoon, in fact itís called ďKeeping Up With The JetsonsĒ and has Margo Robbie in it as Judy Jetson.  Am I getting through here?
Here is a sneak peek at the boot-up logo of RoToron which is animated.  I was nearly tempted to share the boot sequence but that would be a mistake at this early stage.


Can't believe this was nine years ago. I have lurked a long time but did not realize it had been this long. You were working on the original when I first read the book and started checking out the forum. Your projects were some of the reasons I wanted to build my own. Followed your entire Metropolis design. Can't wait to see you rework this one. Subscribed. 

Thanks for the kind words mate, knowing I've had something to do with your enjoyment of the hobby is awesome indeed.

OK I will just say it.... Jennifer is not a fan of that coin door, it seems like it tries too hard to compete with the simplistic beauty of the rest of the cab, and think it looks better without it, However the concept is cool, and still could be incorporated utilizing holograms, mirror projection, lazers or possibly even leds (the last 2 would most likely be a diffuser type setup) IMO.... The cab, OMG thought I would never see that thing again, so reminiscent of my days at classic roadster, design concepts in glass OMG!.... As A 1 off, that is an impressive build to be sure, as a plug it would be a 2 part mold with replication in mind (A lesson learned the really hard way) But ultimately you could spray the mold out with Gelcoat, (like a boat) and not useing paint at all and make as many as you wanted....Glad to see you back friend. ;D   

Honesty appreciated Jenn, you haven't seen it complete yet or switched on.  I bet I can change your mind.  >:D
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« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2018, 09:23:04 pm »
I like the logo. But all you'll hear is "Roloron" what does that mean??

Are you sticking with the red colour theme??

You lot may well be sick of seeing the "cade" name but everybody who has ever seen my cab didn't even know the hobbie existed, hence the name is cool in there eyes...
And as most of our machines will hopefully out last us as I doubt my kids would ever want to part with it as dad built it.  That's why I build my cabs for the end users, no keyboard or instructions needed..

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« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2018, 09:29:06 pm »
I like the logo. But all you'll hear is "RoToron" what does that mean??

Are you sticking with the red colour theme??

You lot may well be sick of seeing the "cade" name but everybody who has ever seen my cab didn't even know the hobbie existed, hence the name is cool in there eyes...
And as most of our machines will hopefully out last us as I doubt my kids would ever want to part with it as dad built it.  That's why I build my cabs for the end users, no keyboard or instructions needed..

FTFY.  I think the name will explain itself when the boot-up sequence is revealed.  Nope Red and Chrome theme is gone.
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« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2018, 09:45:34 pm »
I mentioned a comic book that will go with the completion of the project.  This will be available through the forum to members as a memento in hard copy.  Here's an example of my graphic style.  This is a discontinued comic book idea I had, the style however will be the same.

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« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2018, 09:46:59 pm »
that's an accurate depiction of both you and a can of WD-40
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« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2018, 10:12:55 pm »
I was wondering how youíre doing with the comic. Nice! Looking forward to seeing more of it.  :cheers:

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« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2018, 05:10:18 am »
Great to see how you can leverage your talents in multiple directions. I like the style!

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« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2018, 11:40:21 pm »
When I was a kid, I had a game for my c64 called super bunny. The game came with a comic as its instruction manual and for that reason I though it was about the coolest concept because I really cared about the game on a deeper level. I know your craftsmanship, but it sounds like you are really building more than a cabinet now. It feels like a full emotional experience. I get the reason for the name RoToron, and things like the comic and the care on the boot screen. I just have to say how impressive I find the multi-dimensional aspect of your theming.

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« Reply #45 on: August 26, 2018, 01:29:02 am »
that's an accurate depiction of both you and a can of WD-40

Thanks, it was fun to draw!

I was wondering how youíre doing with the comic. Nice! Looking forward to seeing more of it.  :cheers:

Thanks, I know you approve of good old fashioned drawing by hand.  I start off with pencil drawings, scan them and then digitally paint into the comic format.

Great to see how you can leverage your talents in multiple directions. I like the style!

Thanks, I have to switch between creative efforts regularly or I get bored, having multiple directions to go in keeps the whole thing rolling.

When I was a kid, I had a game for my c64 called super bunny. The game came with a comic as its instruction manual and for that reason I though it was about the coolest concept because I really cared about the game on a deeper level. I know your craftsmanship, but it sounds like you are really building more than a cabinet now. It feels like a full emotional experience. I get the reason for the name RoToron, and things like the comic and the care on the boot screen. I just have to say how impressive I find the multi-dimensional aspect of your theming.

Thanks mate, Iím glad you get it, a full emotional experience is exactly what I'm aiming for.  I think as the project moves forward more people will understand what I'm hoping to achieve.  I guess I'm creating a kind of mythology around a personal design.  Real arcade cabinets already have all that history and nostalgia attached to them.  The comic will be a sci-fi adventure in which RoToron features.  I like the idea of a separate instructional brochure in that 50ís style, that would be fun to do too!

Today it was more fibre glassing.  I'm applying the heavier mat sheeting to the shell now.  The process is basically applying sheet and resin, allowing to harden, cut back and repeat until sufficient thickness is built up. It's tedious and not very exciting to look at but there is value in sharing the process.  It will all be pretty to look at soon enough.


An orrible mess init?  :P


I also spent time today working on the graphics for the promotional advertising for RoToron.  I could have approached this digitally in Photoshop but I chose to paint by hand using oils after looking at the style of homeware advertising from the 50's in America.  Once the oil painting is complete (it's still very rough right now) I will scan it into Photoshop and do final touch-ups before using in the flyer, probably using Illustrator. Some very observant amoung you may notice I've borrowed a little from Fallout 4 in the kitchen in the background.  I love that game and its Retro-Future look. Can you see what I'm going for?  A slightly cheesy depiction of one very excited kid with his new RoToron toy and Mom in the background looking on proudly.
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« Reply #46 on: August 26, 2018, 11:48:06 am »
Very cool.  You are clearly an artist at heart - hopefully you aren't stuck at a boring desk job like I am (LOL) and get to actually put your talents to use on a daily basis. 

The fiberglass process is really neat.  So this won't crack over time as it dries out?  How do you shape it?  Just sanding or do you need to grind it down?  Is the final surface paintable like MDF or anything else?  How difficult is this material to work with?

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« Reply #47 on: August 26, 2018, 01:06:33 pm »
You should call it RoTorond !

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« Reply #48 on: August 27, 2018, 03:22:28 pm »
Very cool.  You are clearly an artist at heart - hopefully you aren't stuck at a boring desk job like I am (LOL) and get to actually put your talents to use on a daily basis. 

The fiberglass process is really neat.  So this won't crack over time as it dries out?  How do you shape it?  Just sanding or do you need to grind it down?  Is the final surface paintable like MDF or anything else?  How difficult is this material to work with?

Thanks, art is just my hobby.  I'm no longer stuck behind a desk, but the money I earn these days is just pocket money  :lol.  To be honest javeryh fiberglassing is one giant pain in the ass!  It doesn't crack or shrink, it doesn't really dry out, it just sets hard.  It's very tough to sand or shape.  You need to have some good gear to work it including safety equipment.  If you think MDF is bad this stuff is way worse.  The tiny fibres itch your skin and get into everything.  The good side is that the final surface takes paint better than MDF.  It's more like automotive restoration or boat building than DIY Arcade cabinet building but I just keep my eyes on the end goal.

You should call it RoTorond !

Someone way back suggested I just call the original incarnation of this cabint "Ond".  But that's my name dude.  RoToron is the name but it's also like a brand.  Can't hurt the brand man.  Nintendond, Neo Geond, nahhhh.  :P



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« Reply #49 on: August 28, 2018, 10:23:38 pm »
At the moment I'm making progress each day.  I get into my Hazmat outfit and get stuck in.


The rough surface gets cut back with the grinder to start with.


Then my orbital sander is used to level things out a bit.

The control panel is being done slightly differently.  All layers are done in one go using the woven mat.  This stuff is expensive but it's the right material for the CP.


I've pre-cut out four layers of the woven mat.  All four will be applied today's session.


First I apply a good coat of resin to the CP.  Then I lay down each mat and paint over with more resin.


Here are all 4 layers finished off and setting.

Next.... I'll switch to working on the Coin Plate MkII for a bit, this should be a bit more interesting from a technique point of view. 
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« Reply #50 on: August 28, 2018, 11:43:19 pm »
Rough cut and then flush trim the button and joystick holes with a router once dried?  Or is the material too hard for a standard router bit?

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« Reply #51 on: August 28, 2018, 11:49:10 pm »
Rough cut and then flush trim the button and joystick holes with a router once dried?  Or is the material too hard for a standard router bit?

 ;D That's exactly it, a sharp router bit will cut it just fine.
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« Reply #52 on: August 29, 2018, 06:47:38 pm »
Today I'm going to be building this:


The cog from RoToron's coin plate.  It's just cabinet bling, but a nice project result is all about the little details. The design is borrowed (with permission) from Pixelhugger.  When I met him in LA he gave me one of his waterjet cut metal cogs, the type which feature on his machine Mission Control.  It's a very cool memento that I have of that visit.  I kind of reversed his avatar design around to become the cog-rocket emblem for my machines coin plate.  It's a happy reminder of my early inspirations in this hobby.

This is a reworking of the original cog I made.  I made that one using a complicated process of casting Bondo and then refining the shape.  This will be a different approach using form cut MDF. No CNC's to be used, just by hand.  The outer edges of the cog are to be slightly bevelled to 45 degrees, just to angle them off a little.

This is Onds puzzle challenge to you.  >:D  How to make this shape including the lightly bevelled outer edges by hand?  A flush trim 45-degree bevel cutting bit must be used.  The bit's bearing is too big to cut a bevel line around the cogs teeth without missing the inner corners, so how do I produce the perfect cog shape as above in MDF?
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« Reply #53 on: August 29, 2018, 08:23:58 pm »
If you have a very sharp chisel, you should be able to finish the inside corners with one. Slowly pare it down, and then ride the back of the chisel along the existing router cuts to pare to the corners. The bevels along the inner circumference will be a bit more challenging, but if you flip the chisel over, and ride it along its bevel, it should be doable.

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« Reply #54 on: August 29, 2018, 10:15:08 pm »

This is Onds puzzle challenge to you.  >:D  How to make this shape including the lightly bevelled outer edges by hand?  A flush trim 45-degree bevel cutting bit must be used.  The bit's bearing is too big to cut a bevel line around the cogs teeth without missing the inner corners, so how do I produce the perfect cog shape as above in MDF?

Build it in 16 individual pieces, route each one to what you need and then do a glue-up. You could do it in 9 pieces if you make the ring and then cut it up after, but if you're going to do a lot of work you might as well do a lot of work.

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« Reply #55 on: August 29, 2018, 10:22:26 pm »
Use a CNC then lie about it.  >:D

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« Reply #56 on: August 29, 2018, 11:25:43 pm »
Wow, I can't believe you have to redo that beautiful finish!  I was misty eyed looking at it stripped down.  Nice to see you back at it.  Cheers to you and I can't wait to see your new twists this time.   :cheers:

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« Reply #57 on: August 30, 2018, 12:59:06 am »
Le Chuckís solution is closest to my own thinking. 

The first thing I did was to take care of the cog teeth and the edge chamfer.  I cut a single piece of MDF to the right width and then ran it past the router.


Then I chamfered the MDF ring Iíd cut out previously using a guide form and flush trim bit.


I cut up the length of MDF into the cog teeth to be slightly longer than needed.  This will allow for final  size corrections and end chamfering later.


Using my grinding wheel, I rough shaped the inner radius of each tooth to roughly match the rings outer curve.


I drilled some holes in the ring corresponding to each tooth.


I stuck the ring down onto my scale accurate plan and then glued and screwed each tooth into place.


The cog has to dry out now before the next steps.  I will fill the unwanted channel formed on the cog around the ring where the teeth join with Bondo and high build primer before final finish.


This approach allows for a cleaner sharper result than my first attempt.  The symmetry is better and the component fitting precision will also be better in the final assembly.  Aligning the components with the plan keeps everything squared and precise.  I highly recommend printing scale accurate plans onto tracing paper - works like a charm!



Wow, I can't believe you have to redo that beautiful finish!  I was misty eyed looking at it stripped down.  Nice to see you back at it.  Cheers to you and I can't wait to see your new twists this time.   :cheers:

Yes I know, how do you think I felt as I stripped it all away?  :'(  Don't worry have faith, I'm taking all I've learned about surface finishing and using it to ultimately improve the build.

Next.. I have to build a small vacuum press to heat shape the dome like acrylic parts that form the top of the Core. This will be a mini project in itself.
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« Reply #58 on: August 30, 2018, 10:40:05 am »
Very nice!  Are you also going to slightly round the outside edges of the cogs?

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« Reply #59 on: August 30, 2018, 10:44:32 am »
You really could use a small CNC machine for work like this. I know you have the skill to do all of this stuff manually, but it would save you tons of time.

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« Reply #60 on: August 30, 2018, 10:53:15 am »
The funny thing is, someone like Ond could build a CNC in a heartbeat.   :lol

Ond, you have Roy Underhill in your corner of the earth? I have a feeling you would like him.


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« Reply #61 on: August 30, 2018, 11:13:22 am »
Well yeah. I built one. That tells you how easy it is.

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« Reply #62 on: August 31, 2018, 10:46:25 am »
It's builds like this that make me thankful for signing in.

True art from a true artist. Glad to have you around ;)

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« Reply #63 on: September 01, 2018, 12:11:12 am »
Very nice!  Are you also going to slightly round the outside edges of the cogs?

 ;D I'll answer your question by way of build progress if that's ok?

You really could use a small CNC machine for work like this. I know you have the skill to do all of this stuff manually, but it would save you tons of time.

A DIY CNC project looks like a very useful future project Mike A.  It would definitely have a place in some of my projects.  I do however really like to do stuff by hand.  I don't mind the time normally. Building stuff at the bench is really enjoyable.  I like the challenge of turning ideas into reality using just whatever tools I have.

The funny thing is, someone like Ond could build a CNC in a heartbeat.   :lol

Ond, you have Roy Underhill in your corner of the earth? I have a feeling you would like him.


You are on my wavelength buddy.  I hadn't heard of Roy before, but I checked out a few of his videos.  This very talented man builds superb items from wood using just hand tools.  Thanks for sharing that.

It's builds like this that make me thankful for signing in.

True art from a true artist. Glad to have you around ;)

That's very generous praise morton, thank you.  It's great to be back in the build zone, enjoying it AND sharing my progress.  :cheers:

One of my favourite lines from the movie Galaxy Quest is when Guy says ďCan you form some sort of rudimentary lathe?Ē  :laugh2: .  So Here I am forming a rudimentary lathe.  The best way to get a nice even curve to the outside edge of the cogís teeth is to spin it in a lathe.  Donít got no lathe, so Iím using a matching cut, circular MDF boss to mount to my drill press.  Three screws through the cog and into the boss should do.


Everything has to be centred perfectly for this to work, a tight fitting boss and accurately centred screw Iím using in the chuck is very important.  Spin it up (at low RPM) and gently sand the cog making sure to stay square with the outside edge.


Hereís the result after also chamfering the resulting curved edge with my router.


My process is always the same for filling gaps and surface finishing (and painting). First the Bondo.  Brilliant stuff!

While the Bondo is setting I use the lathe boss again to fit the Rocket and cog together in alignment. This lets me trace a line onto the rocket for rebating later on with my router.  The cog and rocket will both be rebated so that the cog will assemble into the rocket and sit flush where the coin plate attaches to the cab.


Once Iíve sanded the Bondo work cleanly the high build primer goes on.  With the first coat of primer itís starting to look the business.  This is exactly what Iíll be doing with cab shell as well after fibreglassing.  I canít wait to get up to that stage!


Oh yeah, I nearly forgot, Iíll have further updates this weekend as I form some kinda rudimentary Vacuum press for shaping acrylic plastic sheet, so stay tuned for that.  :cheers:


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« Reply #64 on: September 01, 2018, 01:50:55 am »
Can we skip to the part where you chrome that bad boy? :cheers:
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« Reply #65 on: September 01, 2018, 02:09:01 am »
Looking forward to the vaccupress!  :)

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« Reply #66 on: September 01, 2018, 08:00:06 pm »
Can we skip to the part where you chrome that bad boy? :cheers:

Heh, can I just skip to the bit where I'm lightly buffing the polished surface of the finished cab?  There's less chrome on this version.  :cheers:

Looking forward to the vaccupress!  :)

A mini project in itself, with enough detail for you to build your own....

So, really getting down to the small details now.  I'm a teensy bit scared of this part of the build, just a teensy bit.  I expect some trial and error with this but that's fine.  I'll just keep the mess ups quiet and pretend it all went super smooth.  Business as usual.

The finishing touch to the Core is the clear acrylic dome and strut parts.  No idea what I'm talking about?  Here's a diagram:


As you can see its formed from a number of parts which have to fit together VERY neatly.  You can find plenty of info on DIY vacuum presses on the interwebs. In essence itís a device which allows heated plastic to be forced around a shape using a vacuum.  I'm just drawing up the build plan for that now, so I can cut wood and assemble without too much guess work.

Here's what I've come up with to build the Vacuu-press.  Its essentially a sealed box made from MDF with one panel drilled in a grid. A vacuum fitting allows connection to a domestic vacuum cleaner.  Angled aluminium on each corner allows a frame containing the oven heated acrylic sheet to sit squarely onto the unit.  The addition of some rubber stripping around the top makes for a good seal.  The acrylic sheet is held and supported in between two frames made from aluminium.


Here is the unit assembled.  The object to be moulded around sits on top of the drilled plate.

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« Reply #67 on: September 02, 2018, 01:01:54 am »
I had some fun trying to heat up and bend some acrylic, the missus caught me with it in the oven at home..she wasn't happy!!!

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« Reply #68 on: September 02, 2018, 04:13:49 am »
I had some fun trying to heat up and bend some acrylic, the missus caught me with it in the oven at home..she wasn't happy!!!

Good point, I'll be heating acrylic when my missus is well out of the house and away somewhere.

I managed to get the main part of the Vacuupress built by the end of today. 

Pieces cut.


Glued and screwed.


Holes drilled.


I'll pick up the aluminium, rubber strip and miscellaneous items tomorrow at the hardware store and finish the rest of it off.  Next up... I have to create the forming shape to mould the acrylic with.

On a side note, fibre glassing is still proceeding, I'll revisit that when it's just about all done.  I've also finished writing the plot and dialogue for the comic.  This will allow me to start doing the panel layout for the comic book in readiness for the drawings.

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« Reply #69 on: September 03, 2018, 03:02:54 am »
There's loads of places that sell acrylic domes. Custom sizes to. Appreciate you attention to detail but that a lot of hassle for something you can get off the shelf..

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« Reply #70 on: September 03, 2018, 05:00:33 am »
An off the shelf item won't cut it Richie.  The dome needs to have a flanged edge and have the right arc.  There are other more complex acrylic parts to be molded for this cab I haven't mentioned yet.  The dome will be good practice.  The other parts require custom molding.  Apart from that the press was fun to make.
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« Reply #71 on: September 03, 2018, 03:10:09 pm »
There's loads of places that sell acrylic domes. Custom sizes to. Appreciate you attention to detail but that a lot of hassle for something you can get off the shelf..
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« Reply #72 on: September 04, 2018, 07:54:20 am »
Huh.  Now I feel stupid.  I never thought that a shop vac would have enough umph to pull the plastic after heating.  Thats what I get for not doing research. 

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« Reply #73 on: September 04, 2018, 08:49:00 am »
Its both an honor and a pleasure watching you work.  I'll finally have some ginger updates soon, Ive just been busy building a bathroom in the house and by the time Im done putting in work on it, I don't feel like doing anything else.
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« Reply #74 on: September 04, 2018, 07:58:45 pm »
The cog from RoToron's coin plate.  It's just cabinet bling, but a nice project result is all about the little details. The design is borrowed (with permission) from Pixelhugger. ...

This is Onds puzzle challenge to you.  >:D  How to make this shape including the lightly bevelled outer edges by hand?  A flush trim 45-degree bevel cutting bit must be used.  The bit's bearing is too big to cut a bevel line around the cogs teeth without missing the inner corners, so how do I produce the perfect cog shape as above in MDF?

This was the one part of my project that brought me to my knees and forced me to outsource it. I just couldn't get the design shaped perfectly with my own hands/templates. Leave it to you to find a solution!   :cheers:

Years back I met my favorite comic book artist at Comicon and asked him to sketch my favorite character of his wearing a shirt with the rocketsprocket logo on it. Interestingly (to me at least) his approach to shaping the cog was basically the same as Ond's. 1. Create the circle, 2. "attach" the teeth individually at the "compass points" This was a novel idea to me, as I had drawn the logo hundreds of times with a single outline/stroke, but never as well as he did on his first pass.
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« Reply #75 on: September 05, 2018, 09:00:28 am »
Dear God, this is pure artistry! Amazing stuff you're doing there. I'm going to follow this thread closely :).

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« Reply #76 on: September 05, 2018, 09:19:15 pm »
............  I'll finally have some ginger updates soon, Iíve just been busy building a bathroom in the house and by the time Iím done putting in work on it, I don't feel like doing anything else.

I know exactly what you mean mate.  Try for an update this weekend? :cheers:



This was the one part of my project that brought me to my knees and forced me to outsource it. I just couldn't get the design shaped perfectly with my own hands/templates. Leave it to you to find a solution!   :cheers:

Years back I met my favorite comic book artist at Comicon and asked him to sketch my favorite character of his wearing a shirt with the rocketsprocket logo on it. Interestingly (to me at least) his approach to shaping the cog was basically the same as Ond's. 1. Create the circle, 2. "attach" the teeth individually at the "compass points" This was a novel idea to me, as I had drawn the logo hundreds of times with a single outline/stroke, but never as well as he did on his first pass.

I have a lot of time these days to ponder practical solutions to my (your) designs.  I love the eureka moments when I think I have a solution to something.

Dear God, this is pure artistry! Amazing stuff you're doing there. I'm going to follow this thread closely :).

Welcome aboard and thanks for taking an interest in my project.   :cheers:

Here's the completed vacuum press all ready to go.  Itís all sealed with silicone on the joins and fitted with Vacuum pipe attachment.


The cut plan and parts list is really simple for it:

ē   4 x 50mm x 300mm x 16mm MDF
ē   2 x 300mm x 332mm x 16mm MDF
ē   5 x rubber feet (screw on)
ē   4 x Corner aluminium
ē   Aluminium for mounting frame
ē   1.3 M of 3mm rubber strip
ē   Screws, glue etc.

I got the fibreglass layer cut back on my Control Panel.  Next I'll recut the control cut-outs nice and clean.


Who loves their Dremel?  I do!  On visits to my hardware shop I'm always picking up some new attachment for the thing. Just a few of my favourites pictured here.



Who tries to make their feeble Dremel perform the work a router should hmmm? I don't.  I just use my router to gouge out the rough cut, then I use my Dremel to finish the job.



A test fitting of the various Rocket Sprocket 'n Core parts.  The Rocket part has more shaping to go yet.  The rough rebate for the cog will be filled and refined for a much tighter, neater fit to the cog. 


For those new to my project who have never seen the original Rocket Sprocket coin plate, its fabrication and construction was very similar to the new one.  It had a different shape and smoothed out look.  I should probably just show you.

Flashback time!

Here it is, the original in all its chromed glory.  That's real chrome over MDF.  So why replace it?  The new cabinet design has an overall different feel and theme.  You'll just have to keep following to see what that is.   :D

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Next.. final shaping and finishing of the Rocket Sprocket Coin Plate.
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« Reply #77 on: September 05, 2018, 09:34:57 pm »
Yep... he is just showing off now.  :cheers:
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« Reply #78 on: September 06, 2018, 12:45:53 pm »
Wow!!  Looking good as usual.

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« Reply #79 on: September 06, 2018, 02:33:01 pm »
Yep... he is just showing off now.  :cheers:

Oops  :-[ was I?  Ok thanks, I'll keep my build updates more to the progress.

Wow!!  Looking good as usual.

(thanks  :) )

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« Reply #80 on: September 06, 2018, 02:42:06 pm »
I really enjoyed following along on your Astro build and while I'm saddened to see that project dissolve I am excited by what you are doing here. I'm glad to see you back in the saddle Ond. Looking forward to many awesome updates. I am always impressed with your skill and patience and your attention to detail. I love how you don't cut corners and you take your time to get it right. Thanks for sharing this project with us.  :applaud:


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« Reply #81 on: September 06, 2018, 06:16:09 pm »
Yep... he is just showing off now.  :cheers:

Oops  :-[ was I?  Ok thanks, I'll keep my build updates more to the progress.




I was totally kidding! You are doing great! Keep it going!!

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« Reply #82 on: September 06, 2018, 08:55:23 pm »
Yep... he is just showing off now.  :cheers:

Oops  :-[ was I?  Ok thanks, I'll keep my build updates more to the progress.
Don't listen to Ian... how you're posting is just fine.

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« Reply #83 on: September 06, 2018, 09:12:25 pm »
  I would have to think it is not even possible to show off, Its two ideas basically a revision if you will, anyone and everyone here could build one should they so desire, and the sharing of ideas is not showing off.... Tully creeping this and making one to impress his friend well that's a different story. >:D

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« Reply #84 on: September 06, 2018, 11:05:36 pm »
Yep... he is just showing off now.  :cheers:

Oops  :-[ was I?  Ok thanks, I'll keep my build updates more to the progress.
Don't listen to Ian... how you're posting is just fine.

wtf it was a joke...


  I would have to think it is not even possible to show off, Its two ideas basically a revision if you will, anyone and everyone here could build one should they so desire, and the sharing of ideas is not showing off.... Tully creeping this and making one to impress his friend well that's a different story. >:D


 :banghead: Everyone is too sensitive. I was trying to compliment him in my own way. .
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« Reply #85 on: September 06, 2018, 11:27:36 pm »
We know that,  But it is just so much fun messing with you :duckhunt... I so need to get a hobby.

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« Reply #86 on: September 06, 2018, 11:41:26 pm »
We know that,  But it is just so much fun messing with you :duckhunt... I so need to get a hobby.

 :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:
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« Reply #87 on: September 07, 2018, 12:09:30 am »
.... Tully creeping this and making one to impress his friend well that's a different story. >:D

Tully's long gone.

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« Reply #88 on: September 07, 2018, 12:13:19 am »
This forum is for showing off! Ond, show everyone how it should be done, with ---fracking--- dedication! :cheers:
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« Reply #89 on: September 07, 2018, 01:04:12 am »
Yep... he is just showing off now.  :cheers:

Oops  :-[ was I?  Ok thanks, I'll keep my build updates more to the progress.
Don't listen to Ian... how you're posting is just fine.

wtf it was a joke...


  I would have to think it is not even possible to show off, Its two ideas basically a revision if you will, anyone and everyone here could build one should they so desire, and the sharing of ideas is not showing off.... Tully creeping this and making one to impress his friend well that's a different story. >:D


 :banghead: Everyone is too sensitive. I was trying to compliment him in my own way. .
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« Reply #90 on: September 07, 2018, 05:40:42 am »
:lol  Gawd.  You know here in Australia we have a tradition of warning our mates when they're in danger of straying into wanker territory.  I just thought Ian was doing me that favour.  opt2not has a good point about the whole 'lost in translation' thing that happens on the internet.  It's all good my friends. When I'm motivated about this project I can get a bit over-excited.  I mainly get blank stares at home when I talk about it so I'm very grateful to have the interest that I get here. I'm just going to keep on doing what I'm doing and doing the best work I can.   :cheers:

I really enjoyed following along on your Astro build and while I'm saddened to see that project dissolve I am excited by what you are doing here. I'm glad to see you back in the saddle Ond. Looking forward to many awesome updates. I am always impressed with your skill and patience and your attention to detail. I love how you don't cut corners and you take your time to get it right. Thanks for sharing this project with us.  :applaud:

Thanks, like I said I really appreciate the interest you have in what I'm doing.  For me, other than actually meeting BYOAC members this is the best part of the forum.   It's the fresh ideas I have that keep me motivated.  Must be something in the water, because I keep getting new ideas all the time lately.

The rocket sprocket coin plate is still progressing.  Today I refined the cut-outs and the rebates so the pieces fit nicely together.  The underside of the cog has been rebated.  You can just see a bit of that in the pic. Second coat of spray putty onto the cog, first coat onto the rocket tonight.

Have a look at my previous post pic and then these to see the difference in the moulded shapes.  The ultimate finishing goal for these pieces (and the whole cab) is a very high gloss, polished plastic look. 


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« Reply #91 on: September 07, 2018, 08:25:44 am »
Still going to do that write up in the woodworking section on how you get that incredible paint finish?  Very much looking forward to learning before making a go at it.

Sprocket Rocket looks fantastic.

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« Reply #92 on: September 07, 2018, 09:32:37 am »
Still going to do that write up in the woodworking section on how you get that incredible paint finish?  Very much looking forward to learning before making a go at it.

Sprocket Rocket looks fantastic.

Yes I will.  I'm editing some video tutorials I did and spending some time on it tomorrow.
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« Reply #93 on: September 07, 2018, 10:16:14 am »
Yes I will.  I'm editing some video tutorials I did and spending some time on it tomorrow.

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« Reply #94 on: September 07, 2018, 12:07:28 pm »
:lol  Gawd.  You know here in Australia we have a tradition of warning our mates when they're in danger of straying into wanker territory.

We do that too, but weíre usually in a circle when that happens.
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« Reply #95 on: September 08, 2018, 10:21:06 pm »
Yes I will.  I'm editing some video tutorials I did and spending some time on it tomorrow.

 :notworthy:  you da man.

I'm in awe of your work.

I appreciate the enthusiasm my man - it helps keep me sharp.  :cheers:

:lol  Gawd.  You know here in Australia we have a tradition of warning our mates when they're in danger of straying into wanker territory.

We do that too, but weíre usually in a circle when that happens.

Yup, I understand the whole circle thing bro  ;D

To pre-empt the imminent completion of the finished Sprocket Rocket coin panel Iíll share the color scheme of RoToron.  Itís to be yellow with decal detail in black/white and minimal red here and there.  Itís less red corvette and chrome and more arcade style fun IMO. I already have the new controls, buttons, spinner etc.


The machine will play a limited select list of arcade games, my own custom jukebox app and Pro-Pinball (software pinball).
Iím not happy with any available jukebox apps free or otherwise and I just about have enough basic skill in Unity to create my own customised for RoToron.  Itís coming along nicely so far.

Some pics showing progress today.  I've flipped over the cog so the rebate can be seen that matches the rocket.

The rocket is ready to be painted, the two pieces fit nicely together.



Both pieces will recieve several coats of paint before final polish.


First coat of paint goes onto the rocket.

Next...the scary part,  forming the plastic dome.  Yikes  :-\  Also some more cabinet shell progress.
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« Reply #96 on: September 09, 2018, 10:12:42 am »
Awesome work.  How do you get such an even layer of paint on the MDF?  What do you seal it with first?  Even when I use Kilz or something as a base the MDF soaks up some of the paint.  You somehow get these pieces to look like injection molded plastic after only 1 coat of paint!  How? 

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« Reply #97 on: September 09, 2018, 09:39:29 pm »
Its thats coveted spray bondo he uses. 
   

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« Reply #98 on: September 10, 2018, 01:38:20 am »
    Dries really fast and will set up in the gun like putty make small 20min batches, mixes like fiberglass resin with a liquid catalyst, can be thinned a little with acetone (5 -10%), for less build and extending dry times a bit, and not sure what is recommended for clean up but toluene works really well (Be sure to clean the gun between batches, it is ugly if it sets up in your gun) and wouldn't use a tip any smaller than 1.4 ....https://www.autobodytoolmart.com/evercoat-feather-fill-g2-polyester-primer-surfacer-p-12797.aspx?msclkid=4c0532e160ed1eb6c687697761da6381&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Dynamic%20Search%20Ads&utm_term=evercoat&utm_content=Evercoat
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« Reply #99 on: September 10, 2018, 03:18:15 am »
Dťjŗ vu anyone?  :D  In brief, with MDF, my surface finishing process goes something like this:

1.   Fill holes, cracks etc. with Bondo
2.   Dry sand the surface with 180 and then 320 grit sandpaper. Until almost all surface trace of Bondo is gone and MDF is smooth.
3.   Spray 1st coat with High Build Primer/Spray Putty.
4.   Dry Sand with 320 grit for a uniform smooth surface. Wipe over with damp cloth.
5.   Spray 2nd coat with High Build Primer/Spray Putty.
6.   Dry Sand with 600 grit. Wipe over with damp cloth.
7.   Spray 3rd coat with High Build Primer/Spray Putty.
8.   Wet sand with 600 grit. Wipe over with dry cloth.
9.   Spray 1st (and usually only) coat of Primer Ė this is less viscous than high build primer for the fine details.
        a. Repeat above step 9. if required.
10.   Wet sand (lightly) with 600 grit. Wipe over with dry cloth.

Surface is now Ďpaint readyí as shown in my project.

Pictured are the automotive finishing products I use.  You should find very similar at automotive specialists in your area.  Unlikely to find anything like these products at a general hardware/paints store.

Standard primer:


My paints of choice and clean up solvent.


These are all acrylic lacquer based products with thinners mixed to reduce their viscosity.  The high build primer products can be purchased in either propellant based (rattle cans) or in bulk tins to be used with thinners and a spray gun.  I will be switching over to the latter method in the near future.

Now that I've typed all that out, I'll copy it into my "How to paint your cab the OND way." thread in the Woodworking section. For a look at how I do all the above, check out the video in that post.  It's not riveting watching, unlike say, a super hyped up YouTuber reviewing the latest iPhone.  But, it does have the info you're looking for.
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« Reply #100 on: September 10, 2018, 07:04:01 am »
I am not sure if I missed it, but what controls are you using? What will be running the software? Is this going to have a CRT?

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« Reply #101 on: September 10, 2018, 07:44:14 am »
I am not sure if I missed it, but what controls are you using? What will be running the software? Is this going to have a CRT?

No I haven't mentioned that yet.  Sanwa controls.  PC - most likely Intel I7 based, running Mame and PC software.  No CRT, but an 21" 4:3 NEC LCD.  I'll cover these things in detail including front end configuration, monitor rotation control etc once I'm done with the restoration work, just as I did in the original project.
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« Reply #102 on: September 10, 2018, 07:46:37 am »
I was thinking retro futuristic called for a CRT for sure.

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« Reply #103 on: September 10, 2018, 07:49:34 am »
That would be nice, but no.
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« Reply #104 on: September 16, 2018, 06:14:53 am »
Preparing the mould for the acrylic dome.



Iíve cast around this with alginate and then made a plaster form.

Added details to the Core including nuclear symbol using a stencil and a wraparound decal.




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« Reply #105 on: September 18, 2018, 10:36:31 am »
Great work as always, the detail and craftsmanship are remarkable.  :cheers:

Side note:
How do you pronounce the name, is it...
Rot-oh-ron
Roh-toe-ron
Roh-tore-on
Roto-ron

And is there a reason the R and T are capitalized?

Just curious, stupid things I think about when looking at a build.  ;D
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« Reply #106 on: September 18, 2018, 03:24:55 pm »
Great work as always, the detail and craftsmanship are remarkable.  :cheers:

Side note:
How do you pronounce the name, is it...
Rot-oh-ron
Roh-toe-ron
Roh-tore-on
Roto-ron

And is there a reason the R and T are capitalized?

Just curious, stupid things I think about when looking at a build.  ;D


Thanks, it's a good question.  I think the closest pronunciation using your example is "Roh-toe-ron".  The R and the T are capitalized because of the logo design.  The RoToron logo has a kind of personality, a face in the font if you will.  It's part of the theme of the cab.
 

Click HERE to watch a sneak preview of the animated logo taken from the boot sequence.  The voice is synthetic i.e. created from a text to speech application and then tweaked.   :cheers:
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« Reply #107 on: September 18, 2018, 03:45:13 pm »
I read it as "rotor on" like motor on. merp
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« Reply #108 on: September 18, 2018, 03:52:51 pm »
I read it as "rotor on" like motor on. merp

 ;D  You can also read it like Roto ron.  Ron the rotating retro-future arcade machine!  The syllabic ambiguity  (try saying that with a mouthful of marbles) is part of the fun.
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« Reply #109 on: September 18, 2018, 06:48:41 pm »
Click HERE to watch a sneak preview of the animated logo taken from the boot sequence.  The voice is synthetic i.e. created from a text to speech application and then tweaked.   :cheers:

Short and sweet. Loved it. And your projects are always a pleasure to watch, good luck on the build.
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« Reply #110 on: September 19, 2018, 11:19:30 am »
Click HERE to watch a sneak preview of the animated logo taken from the boot sequence.  The voice is synthetic i.e. created from a text to speech application and then tweaked.   :cheers:

Cool animation. :cheers:

In this example it sounds like Roh-tah-ron, I don't hear the second 'O'.

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« Reply #111 on: September 19, 2018, 07:32:36 pm »
Click HERE to watch a sneak preview of the animated logo taken from the boot sequence.  The voice is synthetic i.e. created from a text to speech application and then tweaked.   :cheers:

Cool animation. :cheers:

In this example it sounds like Roh-tah-ron, I don't hear the second 'O'.

Thanks, heh, well I hear it correctly but I'm an Aussie  ;)

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« Reply #112 on: September 19, 2018, 07:56:51 pm »
So Ian sprays white goo all over your project? :o

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« Reply #113 on: September 19, 2018, 08:20:10 pm »
So Ian sprays white goo all over your project? :o

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« Reply #114 on: September 19, 2018, 08:23:30 pm »
Seriously, I like the way you add extra touches to your posts. It makes for a more interesting project.

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« Reply #115 on: September 19, 2018, 10:22:27 pm »
Cool Stuff!  I wish I was creative like this..
Watching closely now! :)
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« Reply #116 on: September 19, 2018, 11:22:28 pm »
Jenn and I are best paint friends now. But I like being the hi build. Good stuff Ond. lol
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« Reply #117 on: September 19, 2018, 11:36:14 pm »
 :laugh2: OMG that's like the funniest thing Jennifer has ever seen, It so gotta be stickied or something! :laugh2: .... Congrats on the guns! that's a big deal and will change your life.

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« Reply #118 on: September 20, 2018, 07:04:14 pm »
Click HERE to watch a sneak preview of the animated logo taken from the boot sequence.  The voice is synthetic i.e. created from a text to speech application and then tweaked.   :cheers:

Is that what is being represented in the topic title characters? -> ロトロン


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« Reply #119 on: September 20, 2018, 07:55:34 pm »
Click HERE to watch a sneak preview of the animated logo taken from the boot sequence.  The voice is synthetic i.e. created from a text to speech application and then tweaked.   :cheers:

Short and sweet. Loved it. And your projects are always a pleasure to watch, good luck on the build.

Thanks! Edit Hmm the lip sync is a bit out on Vimeo but fine in my media file, oh well. Fixed All these things, logos, the name, the art & theme etc will hopefully work together to be a part of the final product.

Seriously, I like the way you add extra touches to your posts. It makes for a more interesting project.

Well, this hobby is such a serious business.... gotta stand back sometimes and have a laugh.

Cool Stuff!  I wish I was creative like this..
Watching closely now! :)

It's been many months of planning and thinking and pondering, I'm just getting started with following my vision now.  Now is a good time to be watching.

Jenn and I are best paint friends now. But I like being the hi build. Good stuff Ond. lol

:laugh2: OMG that's like the funniest thing Jennifer has ever seen, It so gotta be stickied or something! :laugh2: .... Congrats on the guns! that's a big deal and will change your life.

Heh, you two  :P 

Click HERE to watch a sneak preview of the animated logo taken from the boot sequence.  The voice is synthetic i.e. created from a text to speech application and then tweaked.   :cheers:

Is that what is being represented in the topic title characters? -> ロトロン


Yes, ロトロン is Katakana (Japanese) for RoToron. 

Ok, I have three days off now to see what I can progress.  I need to finish the frame for my vacuum press so I can test some acrylic moulding.  I have this wacky idea to use some salvaged items from a rear projection TV I found.  Specifically, the Fresnel lens sheet.  I wonder if it bends like acrylic?   :-\  We shall see.  This is a 'warts and all project', the good, the bad and the ugly.  Some things work brilliantly, and some things just don't turn out at all.  The design will not change, but how I achieve it takes all kinds of paths.
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« Reply #120 on: September 23, 2018, 03:35:14 am »
This progress update I'm going to mainly focus on these two parts of the cab shown in yellow.


But first the ugly.

Ja that is correct, more fibre :angry: glassing.

I was all keen to put some high-build primer on the CP when I decided no, it needed more fibreglass  :banghead:.  This is mainly to cover edges I couldn't get to on the first application.  Also to make it even tougher.


And since I worked on this I'm posting it!


So in case you're wondering where this messy crap is all leading, letís revisit the build process for the kick plate/bumper/watchmacallit that I originally took.

That kick plate. Originally I was just going to slap some diamond plate down there but the feedback on that idea wasn't too hot.  I came up with a design more in keeping with the cabinet.  It started out life as some hardwood pieces attached to some alumnium sheet.


Then came the fibreglass and shaping.



Fast forward to today.  I got to try out my new spray gun on the kick plate. 


Man...the paint goes on like a dream!


Here it is a few hours later, just touch dry.  This is the color of RoToron. This is where all the effort is heading. It matches the Sanwa ball tops and controls very closely.  Polished up to a high gloss this should look verrry nice.  :afro:


The coin plate assembly is progressing as well.  I'm nearly ready to test the vacuum moulder.  I spent time today on the cog.

Wet sanding.


Painting.


Drying off.


The complete assembly of the Cog-Rocket coin plate featuring the RoToron Core is nearing.  Itís my motivation booster.  When I test it, on first assembly, I might do a reveal video of it fired upÖmaybe.




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« Reply #121 on: September 23, 2018, 03:53:58 am »
kick plate looks epic  :applaud:

What spray system did you buy?

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« Reply #122 on: September 24, 2018, 08:32:06 am »
So smooth! Love it.

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« Reply #123 on: September 24, 2018, 10:12:44 am »
Sweet kickplate, I keep seeing a loaf of french bread. :lol

Looks great, the time and planning you invest in a single component exceeds some full projects we've seen.
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« Reply #124 on: September 24, 2018, 01:51:43 pm »
You make that look so easy.....

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« Reply #125 on: September 25, 2018, 09:35:27 am »
You make that look so easy.....

yeah - he does.  There is some serious artistic talent on display here.  The use of materials is awesome but it is the shaping/sanding of the final product that really makes it stand out.  Just look at the kick plate - I'm on board with the metal and the little wood strips and even laying down the fiberglass - all of that seems doable to me.  However, the shaping and sanding is WAY out of my league.  Everything is so even and with almost no straight surfaces to get it to look like it came off the assembly line is remarkable.  The paint job is just icing on the cake.

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« Reply #126 on: September 25, 2018, 05:30:10 pm »
Digging the new color scheme.  Cog looks great so far!

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« Reply #127 on: September 26, 2018, 09:16:13 pm »
kick plate looks epic  :applaud:

What spray system did you buy?
Thanks, the spray gun is a VMP Velocity.  I chose it because itís well suited to small jobs and has a very fine spray with good adjustability.  There are more expensive units but this is suited to my purpose really well.  The gun is all shiny chrome so easy to clean up.

Thanks for the skills nod and compliment javeryh, your attention to detail and your own skills really impressed me when I was starting out here.
Itís probably my glossing over of all the actual hard work which makes my efforts ďlook easyĒ.  There are build areas I will provide more detail of in the future, than my finishing and painting.  This is my second go round at this project, I like to post frequently but Iím wary of filling pages and pages with tedious effort.
 
Digging the new color scheme.  Cog looks great so far!

Thanks, hereís a few shots of the now complete cog after finishing and polishing.



Here you can see how closely the paint matches the color of the controls.


Here's the cog next to the RoToron Core which it will be assembled onto.  The complete coin plate is the RoToron equivalent of arcade artwork.  Printed artwork is very minimalistic on this cab (as it should be) so the decorative/attract mode coin plate is eye candy with some novelty as well.


I'm back in the workshop this afternoon working on the vacuum press and mould form, more updates when that's ready to test.   :cheers:

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« Reply #128 on: September 27, 2018, 12:49:58 am »
Loving the details on the core!
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« Reply #129 on: September 27, 2018, 03:53:10 am »

Here you can see how closely the paint matches the color of the controls.


That's great! I kinda hate it that my t-molding does not really match my controls that well...

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« Reply #130 on: September 27, 2018, 05:25:02 am »
Loving the details on the core!

Thanks Neph, that decal/plastic badge was fun to make.  Its laser printed acetate (printed in reverse on the back) and then spray painted on the rear side for coloured lettering.  I used steel eyelets to fix it onto the plastic shell as shown.


The plastic band reads "ROTORON CORE 10035 DO NOT DISASSEMBLE OUTSIDE CONTAINMENT".  The Core shell won't be visible once installed into the cab unless you open the rear hatch.  The Core has 'mythology' attached to it but you'll have to read the comic to find out what that is.  Which reminds me, I need to work on the comic layout some more.   

That's great! I kinda hate it that my t-molding does not really match my controls that well...

I've had that problem on other projects, I was determined to get the color matching right on this one.

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« Reply #131 on: September 28, 2018, 08:42:35 am »
Very nice work  :applaud:   
I've never need able to get spray guns to work right for me..  Its a true talent.

A 6" finish is great!

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« Reply #132 on: September 30, 2018, 10:20:13 pm »
Very nice work  :applaud:   
I've never need able to get spray guns to work right for me..  Its a true talent.

A 6" finish is great!

Very nice

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I've finished up the frame for the vacuum press and the form for moulding around.  Hopefully I'll get time to test this tomorrow.  The acrylic sheet in the frame you can see has the protective paper covering on it still.  It's held in place by some angle aluminium and clips.  This frame goes in the oven, when the arcylic is hot enough it goes onto the press.

Here's the form shaped from plaster.


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« Reply #133 on: September 30, 2018, 11:22:15 pm »
Nice!  I'm excited to see how this comes out.

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« Reply #134 on: October 05, 2018, 06:00:22 am »
After some minor adjustments to the vacuum press, I tried it out today.  I set our kitchen oven to just over 100 degrees Celsius (212 Fahrenheit) and then got organized so that I could quickly place the frame onto the press hot out of the oven.  Here's the frame with acrylic sheet ready to go into the oven.


The frame on the vacuum press after running the vacuum.


Phew!  I'm glad this is done.  It was an interesting process but kind of stressful.


The dome cut free and sized to fit.


Test fitted to the Core.




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« Reply #135 on: October 05, 2018, 06:20:31 am »
Are you worried about outgassing with the acrylic in your kitchen oven? That stuff can be toxic. The place and appliance where you prepare food might not be the best place for that. A one off project is probably no big deal, but you probably should find another way to heat up plastic if it becomes a regular practice.

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« Reply #136 on: October 05, 2018, 06:27:35 am »
Are you worried about outgassing with the acrylic in your kitchen oven? That stuff can be toxic. The place and appliance where you prepare food might not be the best place for that. A one off project is probably no big deal, but you probably should find another way to heat up plastic if it becomes a regular practice.

Not worried at all Mike,  opened the windows turned on the exhaust fan it was over in seconds.  I'll be doing some more moulding right at the end of the project.
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« Reply #137 on: October 05, 2018, 06:32:02 am »
Do you take any videos Ond.  Would be good to see this vacuum process

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« Reply #138 on: October 05, 2018, 04:07:39 pm »
I've done tons of vacuum work with wood - none with plastic/acrylic...
Now I need to come up with something so I can do it...
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« Reply #139 on: October 05, 2018, 04:36:34 pm »
That vacuum form set up is wild.  I'm actually curious how you cut out the perfect circle once the piece was formed. 

Also, kind of a random question but how durable is your paint finish once you are complete?  I assume the polish hardens somewhat to protect it a little bit.  Is it highly susceptible to scratches or is it just like anything else with a high polish finish (like a car, for example)?

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« Reply #140 on: October 05, 2018, 06:21:28 pm »
Are you worried about outgassing with the acrylic in your kitchen oven? That stuff can be toxic. The place and appliance where you prepare food might not be the best place for that. A one off project is probably no big deal, but you probably should find another way to heat up plastic if it becomes a regular practice.
That's your takeaway from this?.... Not "Dude that's cool" or wonder why he chose wood to build his prototype? The relationship between acrylic thickness/temp/vac, Perhaps how to use this idea in your own builds?....OR.... Could someone actually see this as a good practice piece for a welder, TIG, inparticular, given the aluminium heat transfer medium? At least he has windows though, Right?...Good job Ond! ;)

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« Reply #141 on: October 05, 2018, 06:29:43 pm »
I was sheepishly lost when you said you where building a vacuum. I had no idea what was going on. lol. I didn't really read it thoroughly enough. But now I see what you did and that my friend is freakin cool. Great job Ond. You are on another level. Well done.
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« Reply #142 on: October 06, 2018, 03:52:13 am »
I don't understand in the vacuum how you get a seal on the bottom plate as the acrylic would only be touching the centre of the dome.  Do you press down and then switch the air on.?

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« Reply #143 on: October 07, 2018, 03:36:57 am »
Do you take any videos Ond.  Would be good to see this vacuum process

I will Richie, the next time I use the press.  That will be in a while though.  To answer your question, the process goes something like this:

1. The frame goes into the oven and I watch for the acrylic to sag a little, maybe half an inch or so.  This means it's hot enough to mould.
2. I turn the vacuum unit on before I take the frame out of the oven so its sucking air down through the top plate.
3. I remove the frame and quickly place it onto the press.
4. The acrylic sheet is soft so it pulls down over the dome mould and the aluminium frame makes contact with the rubber stripping on the press forming a seal.
4. The sheet is sucked down flat onto the press and over the mould shape.  Seconds later you can lift the frame up as shown in my post pic.

I was sheepishly lost when you said you where building a vacuum. I had no idea what was going on. lol. I didn't really read it thoroughly enough. But now I see what you did and that my friend is freakin cool. Great job Ond. You are on another level. Well done.

That's Ok Ian, I do the same in other peoples threads too.  I'm relieved it worked.

@ Mike & jennifer,  I like getting the sort of questions you're suggesting jenn.  I spend so much time thinking about HOW to get the results I want, it's nice to discuss strategies with members.  That said Mike has a point.  It's not the vacuum forming fumes I worry about.  However, when I'm cutting or shaping acrylic in the workshop I need to use my respirator mask, the fumes coming off the plastic are bad and I have no exhaust fan out there.

That vacuum form set up is wild.  I'm actually curious how you cut out the perfect circle once the piece was formed. 

Also, kind of a random question but how durable is your paint finish once you are complete?  I assume the polish hardens somewhat to protect it a little bit.  Is it highly susceptible to scratches or is it just like anything else with a high polish finish (like a car, for example)?

You ask all the good questions dude  ;D. I hand cut the dome firstly along the mould line and then by eye to fit.  Automotive acrylic lacquers cure to a hard shell as you mentioned like on a car finish.  Car finishes are baked (and clear coated) which makes them really tough.  This finish is durable but it will get scratched.  I'm OK with some light wear and tear scratching in the future...

I've done tons of vacuum work with wood - none with plastic/acrylic...
Now I need to come up with something so I can do it...
well done
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Customised acrylic marquee covers.  The mighty Pixelhugger did both acrylic moulding AND wood forming using a vacuum press on his Mission Control project.

If youíve been following along since inception we are at a milestone!  The cog rocket coin plate is all but finished except for a few embellishing parts.  I spent time today wet sanding and then polishing the rocket component.  Here is the coin plate with parts loosely assembled.


I'm well pleased with the result.  It's gone from my head and into the real world, it's a chuff moment for sure.


I'll post the promised video as soon as I hook everything up in the next few days.


Check this... a serial number plate for RoToron.  The acetate will be bonded to the aluminium using crystal coat.





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« Reply #144 on: October 07, 2018, 04:02:48 am »
Can't see those last 4 images..

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« Reply #145 on: October 07, 2018, 04:52:40 am »
Can't see those last 4 images..

yeah you can.
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« Reply #146 on: October 07, 2018, 08:04:49 am »
Incredible.  Never seen anything like it.  You gonna flash some lights for us?

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« Reply #147 on: October 07, 2018, 10:44:35 am »
This Is a great looking piece amazing

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« Reply #148 on: October 07, 2018, 02:12:34 pm »
So much work for such a little piece of the project.

You should be proud of your patience!

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« Reply #149 on: October 08, 2018, 07:42:57 am »
Assembled, wired up and powered on the Core today.  Picture doesn't do the spinning LEDs justice, it looks much nicer live.


Still needs the struts and centering circle added.
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« Reply #150 on: October 08, 2018, 07:57:18 am »
You're such a tease... cmon, post a video...

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« Reply #151 on: October 08, 2018, 09:54:49 am »
Amazing work as always.  I think of myself as a pretty good builder/modder but I pale in comparison to you.
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« Reply #152 on: October 08, 2018, 12:46:09 pm »
Can you simulate "Crackling"? Something to show that this thing is dangerously charged up?
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« Reply #153 on: October 08, 2018, 02:02:08 pm »
OMG...That thing looks like a flux capacitor. ???

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« Reply #154 on: October 08, 2018, 02:16:06 pm »
It looks nothing like a flux capacitor. Must be that welder's eye.

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« Reply #155 on: October 08, 2018, 02:29:56 pm »
OMG...That thing looks like a flux capacitor. ???

huh?  It looks like the HAL 9000...


...nothing like a flux capacitor:


Get your nerd references right for crying out loud.  :hissy:

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« Reply #156 on: October 08, 2018, 03:05:43 pm »
You're such a tease... cmon, post a video...

Heh, not intentionally teasing.  I get stuff done in the workshop and have something to show.  I promised a video and there will be one.

Amazing work as always.  I think of myself as a pretty good builder/modder but I pale in comparison to you.

Thanks Malenko, I'm good at building bits and pieces but I rely on guys like you for all that real arcade knowledge and experience.

Can you simulate "Crackling"? Something to show that this thing is dangerously charged up?

You're on to it Ian and yes I can.  I think youíll enjoy the video.

 :lol  @ Jenn, Mike A opt2not.... HAL's eye for sure.  It has elements of the flux capacitor in it but they are not visible yet.

I spent hours assembling and then making a wiring harness for this last night.  I HAD to take at least one picture of the damned thing.  Anyway itís still a little unfinished. Jenn's 'flux capacitor' piece has yet to be added.  Give me a few days to finish the last bit and shoot the video.  Then I'll be setting this aside and getting stuck into the CP and top shell.   :cheers:
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« Reply #157 on: October 08, 2018, 03:57:11 pm »
Came out spot on mate.  Looks really beautiful.  The color schemes flow nicely into each other.  I can't wait to see it all fired up!

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« Reply #158 on: October 13, 2018, 05:46:28 pm »
Came out spot on mate.  Looks really beautiful.  The color schemes flow nicely into each other.  I can't wait to see it all fired up!

Thanks, I'm glad you like the color scheme, I think the yellow with red here and there (and black) should look pretty good when it's all done.

Of the new build so far I'm most proud of this little fella.  It took all the skill I could muster.  Hand forged LED chasing Flux Capacitor module for the Core.



It started out life as a printed design stuck onto some metal sheet and went from there.  This little piece also serves to hide wiring in the core you can see in previous pics.


The boards you can see in the background are for the Arduino controller for the boot sequence (which includes Core start-up routine - LEDS, sounds, motor etc).
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« Reply #159 on: October 16, 2018, 01:19:33 am »
Oooo, nice!  Is it all metal or metal wrapped on something else?  Is that like 3 LEDS on each arm?  Whats the relay board for, the motors?

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« Reply #160 on: October 17, 2018, 09:31:03 pm »
Oooo, nice!  Is it all metal or metal wrapped on something else?  Is that like 3 LEDS on each arm?  Whats the relay board for, the motors?

It's a  formed piece on its own but does have plastic inserts that I made to hold the 3 LEDs per arm.  As I said before the Arduino controlled relay board is for sequential switching of the various LED groups in the Coin Plate (Core).  To start with I'll need only 4 of the relays but the others will be used to control power up of other parts of RoToron on start up.  The final board I have to make myself is the LED Chaser using some ICs and other parts.

Here's the piece after I wired it up.


Here it is installed into the Core, the Cog is just loosely attached for effect.


I decided the wiring loom I'd made was too messy so I replaced it with CAT 6 Ethernet cable.  This is really useful for wiring looms, the Ethernet sockets can be wired straight into the controller box (containing Arduino boards).


I haven't had much time for this project in the last few days but will again soon.
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« Reply #161 on: October 17, 2018, 10:25:35 pm »
Nicely coming along! I love the Cat6/RJ45 usage here.  :cheers:

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« Reply #162 on: October 17, 2018, 10:52:07 pm »
Awesome!

In addition to what op2not said, I also love the loom, the contrasting strain relief and the radiation hazard trefoil on the back of the reactor core.  This is just -cool-.

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« Reply #163 on: October 18, 2018, 01:37:26 am »
Nicely coming along! I love the Cat6/RJ45 usage here.  :cheers:

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« Reply #164 on: October 25, 2018, 04:31:32 pm »
Looking good! 

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As I said before the Arduino controlled relay board is for sequential switching of the various LED groups in the Coin Plate (Core).

Have you considered a different form of driver for the LEDs, like a MOSFET instead of the relays?  Would be smaller, quieter and less prone to mechanical failure.  I assume the LEDs will be switched off and on many many times?  MOSFETs work really well with Arduino boards.

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« Reply #165 on: November 01, 2018, 08:49:54 pm »
Awesome!

In addition to what op2not said, I also love the loom, the contrasting strain relief and the radiation hazard trefoil on the back of the reactor core.  This is just -cool-.

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« Reply #166 on: November 01, 2018, 11:14:51 pm »
 :o :o :o :o :o

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« Reply #167 on: November 02, 2018, 10:25:22 am »
The level of detail on this project is insane! Awesome work Ond.  :applaud:

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« Reply #168 on: November 05, 2018, 07:43:34 am »
Thanks for looking in on my progress folks, I appreciate the comments and kudos  :cheers: I've been spending almost all my spare time on electronics for this project since I last posted.


Have you considered a different form of driver for the LEDs, like a MOSFET instead of the relays?  Would be smaller, quieter and less prone to mechanical failure.  I assume the LEDs will be switched off and on many many times?  MOSFETs work really well with Arduino boards.


I have, I will be using MOSFET relays elsewhere in the project, these are OK for this purpose.  Thanks for the suggestion.

I've mainly been working on control circuits and Arduino stuff lately.  It's all nearly done now.  I just have some audio stuff to do for the Core boot sequence.  I re-did the LED spinner for inside the Core.  I wanted to pack more LEDs onto the disk but hand wiring them is a pain so...


I built this LED chaser circuit from some schematic I downloaded.  I made it small with a variable resistor so I can adjust the chase speed.

All these controller boards, relays, Arduino, tiny amplifier etc are packed inside the Core controller.  CAT 6 sockets take the feeds from the Core.

Here is the finished unit connected to its controller.  The controller has a PC interface as well for switching sync and a manual overide for testing.  You can just see the "flux capacitor" LEDS lighting up.  Single images don't do them justice.  The video will show them working properly.

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« Reply #169 on: November 05, 2018, 10:03:19 am »
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« Reply #170 on: November 05, 2018, 10:07:59 am »
Really nice work - Waiting on the video   :)

Great imagination and creativity all around
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« Reply #171 on: November 06, 2018, 02:43:07 am »
Hahahahaha, that is awesome.

Thanks for the inspiration.  Maybe I'm not tired of filling and sanding yet after all. 

I very much appreciate you sharing this project.  I know it's been a long road and difficult in spots, and I just want to say that it's had an impact on me.  It's an honor to watch you work.

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« Reply #172 on: November 13, 2018, 07:57:50 am »
I've made a video of the completed coin plate with core module.  The Arduino stuff took a little longer than I anticipated but thatís always the way with me.

The novelty of the Core will be just for during power up of RoToron and perhaps between games in attract mode.  It would be distracting and annoying to listen to this thing during game play. The Core controller does have a volume control on it now, accessible from the rear hatch of the machine.  In the guts of the controller you can see the various boards and wiring that work the magic.



So, click HERE to watch!  :cheers:

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« Reply #173 on: November 13, 2018, 09:27:54 am »
 :o...OMG!!!... :o...AWESOME!!!...OMG!!! :o

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« Reply #174 on: November 13, 2018, 09:29:08 am »
That is so ---smurfing--- awesome! Nice job!

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« Reply #175 on: November 13, 2018, 09:34:06 am »
that's crazy good  :applaud: 

Nice work - a 1" finish.  I can appreciate that.
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« Reply #176 on: November 13, 2018, 09:36:56 am »
is that a Sainsmart relay board? I have an 8 port version in Ginger
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« Reply #178 on: November 13, 2018, 09:53:03 am »
That is one of the coolest hand-made things I've ever seen.  Crazy.

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« Reply #179 on: November 13, 2018, 11:13:14 am »
There are not enough emoticons to express how cool that is!

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« Reply #180 on: November 13, 2018, 12:14:42 pm »
Boom. That is one of the coolest things I've seen on here.  Ever.

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I dig it!  :applaud:

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« Reply #182 on: November 13, 2018, 02:14:43 pm »
That. Is. Beautiful....

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« Reply #183 on: November 13, 2018, 03:47:25 pm »
Not to mention hand made from scratch.

I don't see how you're not a millionaire, sitting on a beach somewhere.  Absolutely amazing... :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:
   

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« Reply #184 on: November 13, 2018, 07:17:40 pm »
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« Reply #185 on: November 14, 2018, 02:01:27 am »
I struggle in vain to sufficiently express how amazingly cool this is without tripping the board's profanity filter. 

I love that it's such a physical effect, too - I think most people, myself included, would have probably tried to fake that design element with an LCD animation or something, and it would have turned out much more sterile and flat, where you went all old-school practical effect Stan Winston on it, instead.

Twelve out of ten for style and execution.  Bravo.   :cheers:

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« Reply #186 on: November 14, 2018, 02:37:36 am »
Tits!

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« Reply #187 on: November 14, 2018, 03:10:18 am »
Exceptional level of detail, This ones going to be an instant masterpiece.  :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

  
 

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