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Re: RoToron ロトロン
« Reply #80 on: September 06, 2018, 02:42:06 pm »
I really enjoyed following along on your Astro build and while I'm saddened to see that project dissolve I am excited by what you are doing here. I'm glad to see you back in the saddle Ond. Looking forward to many awesome updates. I am always impressed with your skill and patience and your attention to detail. I love how you don't cut corners and you take your time to get it right. Thanks for sharing this project with us.  :applaud:


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« Reply #81 on: September 06, 2018, 06:16:09 pm »
Yep... he is just showing off now.  :cheers:

Oops  :-[ was I?  Ok thanks, I'll keep my build updates more to the progress.




I was totally kidding! You are doing great! Keep it going!!

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« Reply #82 on: September 06, 2018, 08:55:23 pm »
Yep... he is just showing off now.  :cheers:

Oops  :-[ was I?  Ok thanks, I'll keep my build updates more to the progress.
Don't listen to Ian... how you're posting is just fine.

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« Reply #83 on: September 06, 2018, 09:12:25 pm »
  I would have to think it is not even possible to show off, Its two ideas basically a revision if you will, anyone and everyone here could build one should they so desire, and the sharing of ideas is not showing off.... Tully creeping this and making one to impress his friend well that's a different story. >:D

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« Reply #84 on: September 06, 2018, 11:05:36 pm »
Yep... he is just showing off now.  :cheers:

Oops  :-[ was I?  Ok thanks, I'll keep my build updates more to the progress.
Don't listen to Ian... how you're posting is just fine.

wtf it was a joke...


  I would have to think it is not even possible to show off, Its two ideas basically a revision if you will, anyone and everyone here could build one should they so desire, and the sharing of ideas is not showing off.... Tully creeping this and making one to impress his friend well that's a different story. >:D


 :banghead: Everyone is too sensitive. I was trying to compliment him in my own way. .
« Last Edit: September 06, 2018, 11:07:37 pm by Ian »
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« Reply #85 on: September 06, 2018, 11:27:36 pm »
We know that,  But it is just so much fun messing with you :duckhunt... I so need to get a hobby.

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« Reply #86 on: September 06, 2018, 11:41:26 pm »
We know that,  But it is just so much fun messing with you :duckhunt... I so need to get a hobby.

 :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:
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« Reply #87 on: September 07, 2018, 12:09:30 am »
.... Tully creeping this and making one to impress his friend well that's a different story. >:D

Tully's long gone.

RIP man... RIP...
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« Reply #88 on: September 07, 2018, 12:13:19 am »
This forum is for showing off! Ond, show everyone how it should be done, with ---fracking--- dedication! :cheers:
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« Reply #89 on: September 07, 2018, 01:04:12 am »
Yep... he is just showing off now.  :cheers:

Oops  :-[ was I?  Ok thanks, I'll keep my build updates more to the progress.
Don't listen to Ian... how you're posting is just fine.

wtf it was a joke...


  I would have to think it is not even possible to show off, Its two ideas basically a revision if you will, anyone and everyone here could build one should they so desire, and the sharing of ideas is not showing off.... Tully creeping this and making one to impress his friend well that's a different story. >:D


 :banghead: Everyone is too sensitive. I was trying to compliment him in my own way. .
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« Reply #90 on: September 07, 2018, 05:40:42 am »
:lol  Gawd.  You know here in Australia we have a tradition of warning our mates when they're in danger of straying into wanker territory.  I just thought Ian was doing me that favour.  opt2not has a good point about the whole 'lost in translation' thing that happens on the internet.  It's all good my friends. When I'm motivated about this project I can get a bit over-excited.  I mainly get blank stares at home when I talk about it so I'm very grateful to have the interest that I get here. I'm just going to keep on doing what I'm doing and doing the best work I can.   :cheers:

I really enjoyed following along on your Astro build and while I'm saddened to see that project dissolve I am excited by what you are doing here. I'm glad to see you back in the saddle Ond. Looking forward to many awesome updates. I am always impressed with your skill and patience and your attention to detail. I love how you don't cut corners and you take your time to get it right. Thanks for sharing this project with us.  :applaud:

Thanks, like I said I really appreciate the interest you have in what I'm doing.  For me, other than actually meeting BYOAC members this is the best part of the forum.   It's the fresh ideas I have that keep me motivated.  Must be something in the water, because I keep getting new ideas all the time lately.

The rocket sprocket coin plate is still progressing.  Today I refined the cut-outs and the rebates so the pieces fit nicely together.  The underside of the cog has been rebated.  You can just see a bit of that in the pic. Second coat of spray putty onto the cog, first coat onto the rocket tonight.

Have a look at my previous post pic and then these to see the difference in the moulded shapes.  The ultimate finishing goal for these pieces (and the whole cab) is a very high gloss, polished plastic look. 


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« Reply #91 on: September 07, 2018, 08:25:44 am »
Still going to do that write up in the woodworking section on how you get that incredible paint finish?  Very much looking forward to learning before making a go at it.

Sprocket Rocket looks fantastic.

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« Reply #92 on: September 07, 2018, 09:32:37 am »
Still going to do that write up in the woodworking section on how you get that incredible paint finish?  Very much looking forward to learning before making a go at it.

Sprocket Rocket looks fantastic.

Yes I will.  I'm editing some video tutorials I did and spending some time on it tomorrow.
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« Reply #93 on: September 07, 2018, 10:16:14 am »
Yes I will.  I'm editing some video tutorials I did and spending some time on it tomorrow.

 :notworthy:  you da man.

I'm in awe of your work.

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Re: RoToron ロトロン
« Reply #94 on: September 07, 2018, 12:07:28 pm »
:lol  Gawd.  You know here in Australia we have a tradition of warning our mates when they're in danger of straying into wanker territory.

We do that too, but we’re usually in a circle when that happens.
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« Reply #95 on: September 08, 2018, 10:21:06 pm »
Yes I will.  I'm editing some video tutorials I did and spending some time on it tomorrow.

 :notworthy:  you da man.

I'm in awe of your work.

I appreciate the enthusiasm my man - it helps keep me sharp.  :cheers:

:lol  Gawd.  You know here in Australia we have a tradition of warning our mates when they're in danger of straying into wanker territory.

We do that too, but we’re usually in a circle when that happens.

Yup, I understand the whole circle thing bro  ;D

To pre-empt the imminent completion of the finished Sprocket Rocket coin panel I’ll share the color scheme of RoToron.  It’s to be yellow with decal detail in black/white and minimal red here and there.  It’s less red corvette and chrome and more arcade style fun IMO. I already have the new controls, buttons, spinner etc.


The machine will play a limited select list of arcade games, my own custom jukebox app and Pro-Pinball (software pinball).
I’m not happy with any available jukebox apps free or otherwise and I just about have enough basic skill in Unity to create my own customised for RoToron.  It’s coming along nicely so far.

Some pics showing progress today.  I've flipped over the cog so the rebate can be seen that matches the rocket.

The rocket is ready to be painted, the two pieces fit nicely together.



Both pieces will recieve several coats of paint before final polish.


First coat of paint goes onto the rocket.

Next...the scary part,  forming the plastic dome.  Yikes  :-\  Also some more cabinet shell progress.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2018, 01:41:06 am by Ond »
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« Reply #96 on: September 09, 2018, 10:12:42 am »
Awesome work.  How do you get such an even layer of paint on the MDF?  What do you seal it with first?  Even when I use Kilz or something as a base the MDF soaks up some of the paint.  You somehow get these pieces to look like injection molded plastic after only 1 coat of paint!  How? 

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« Reply #97 on: September 09, 2018, 09:39:29 pm »
Its thats coveted spray bondo he uses. 
   

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« Reply #98 on: September 10, 2018, 01:38:20 am »
    Dries really fast and will set up in the gun like putty make small 20min batches, mixes like fiberglass resin with a liquid catalyst, can be thinned a little with acetone (5 -10%), for less build and extending dry times a bit, and not sure what is recommended for clean up but toluene works really well (Be sure to clean the gun between batches, it is ugly if it sets up in your gun) and wouldn't use a tip any smaller than 1.4 ....https://www.autobodytoolmart.com/evercoat-feather-fill-g2-polyester-primer-surfacer-p-12797.aspx?msclkid=4c0532e160ed1eb6c687697761da6381&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Dynamic%20Search%20Ads&utm_term=evercoat&utm_content=Evercoat
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« Reply #99 on: September 10, 2018, 03:18:15 am »
Déjà vu anyone?  :D  In brief, with MDF, my surface finishing process goes something like this:

1.   Fill holes, cracks etc. with Bondo
2.   Dry sand the surface with 180 and then 320 grit sandpaper. Until almost all surface trace of Bondo is gone and MDF is smooth.
3.   Spray 1st coat with High Build Primer/Spray Putty.
4.   Dry Sand with 320 grit for a uniform smooth surface. Wipe over with damp cloth.
5.   Spray 2nd coat with High Build Primer/Spray Putty.
6.   Dry Sand with 600 grit. Wipe over with damp cloth.
7.   Spray 3rd coat with High Build Primer/Spray Putty.
8.   Wet sand with 600 grit. Wipe over with dry cloth.
9.   Spray 1st (and usually only) coat of Primer – this is less viscous than high build primer for the fine details.
        a. Repeat above step 9. if required.
10.   Wet sand (lightly) with 600 grit. Wipe over with dry cloth.

Surface is now ‘paint ready’ as shown in my project.

Pictured are the automotive finishing products I use.  You should find very similar at automotive specialists in your area.  Unlikely to find anything like these products at a general hardware/paints store.

Standard primer:


My paints of choice and clean up solvent.


These are all acrylic lacquer based products with thinners mixed to reduce their viscosity.  The high build primer products can be purchased in either propellant based (rattle cans) or in bulk tins to be used with thinners and a spray gun.  I will be switching over to the latter method in the near future.

Now that I've typed all that out, I'll copy it into my "How to paint your cab the OND way." thread in the Woodworking section. For a look at how I do all the above, check out the video in that post.  It's not riveting watching, unlike say, a super hyped up YouTuber reviewing the latest iPhone.  But, it does have the info you're looking for.
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« Reply #100 on: September 10, 2018, 07:04:01 am »
I am not sure if I missed it, but what controls are you using? What will be running the software? Is this going to have a CRT?

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« Reply #101 on: September 10, 2018, 07:44:14 am »
I am not sure if I missed it, but what controls are you using? What will be running the software? Is this going to have a CRT?

No I haven't mentioned that yet.  Sanwa controls.  PC - most likely Intel I7 based, running Mame and PC software.  No CRT, but an 21" 4:3 NEC LCD.  I'll cover these things in detail including front end configuration, monitor rotation control etc once I'm done with the restoration work, just as I did in the original project.
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« Reply #102 on: September 10, 2018, 07:46:37 am »
I was thinking retro futuristic called for a CRT for sure.

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« Reply #103 on: September 10, 2018, 07:49:34 am »
That would be nice, but no.
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« Reply #104 on: September 16, 2018, 06:14:53 am »
Preparing the mould for the acrylic dome.



I’ve cast around this with alginate and then made a plaster form.

Added details to the Core including nuclear symbol using a stencil and a wraparound decal.




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« Reply #105 on: September 18, 2018, 10:36:31 am »
Great work as always, the detail and craftsmanship are remarkable.  :cheers:

Side note:
How do you pronounce the name, is it...
Rot-oh-ron
Roh-toe-ron
Roh-tore-on
Roto-ron

And is there a reason the R and T are capitalized?

Just curious, stupid things I think about when looking at a build.  ;D
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« Reply #106 on: September 18, 2018, 03:24:55 pm »
Great work as always, the detail and craftsmanship are remarkable.  :cheers:

Side note:
How do you pronounce the name, is it...
Rot-oh-ron
Roh-toe-ron
Roh-tore-on
Roto-ron

And is there a reason the R and T are capitalized?

Just curious, stupid things I think about when looking at a build.  ;D


Thanks, it's a good question.  I think the closest pronunciation using your example is "Roh-toe-ron".  The R and the T are capitalized because of the logo design.  The RoToron logo has a kind of personality, a face in the font if you will.  It's part of the theme of the cab.
 

Click HERE to watch a sneak preview of the animated logo taken from the boot sequence.  The voice is synthetic i.e. created from a text to speech application and then tweaked.   :cheers:
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« Reply #107 on: September 18, 2018, 03:45:13 pm »
I read it as "rotor on" like motor on. merp
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« Reply #108 on: September 18, 2018, 03:52:51 pm »
I read it as "rotor on" like motor on. merp

 ;D  You can also read it like Roto ron.  Ron the rotating retro-future arcade machine!  The syllabic ambiguity  (try saying that with a mouthful of marbles) is part of the fun.
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« Reply #109 on: September 18, 2018, 06:48:41 pm »
Click HERE to watch a sneak preview of the animated logo taken from the boot sequence.  The voice is synthetic i.e. created from a text to speech application and then tweaked.   :cheers:

Short and sweet. Loved it. And your projects are always a pleasure to watch, good luck on the build.
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« Reply #110 on: September 19, 2018, 11:19:30 am »
Click HERE to watch a sneak preview of the animated logo taken from the boot sequence.  The voice is synthetic i.e. created from a text to speech application and then tweaked.   :cheers:

Cool animation. :cheers:

In this example it sounds like Roh-tah-ron, I don't hear the second 'O'.

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« Reply #111 on: September 19, 2018, 07:32:36 pm »
Click HERE to watch a sneak preview of the animated logo taken from the boot sequence.  The voice is synthetic i.e. created from a text to speech application and then tweaked.   :cheers:

Cool animation. :cheers:

In this example it sounds like Roh-tah-ron, I don't hear the second 'O'.

Thanks, heh, well I hear it correctly but I'm an Aussie  ;)

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In the left corner is my fine details spray gun.  I picked it for its very fine spray and delicate touch.  Without 'Jenn' there is no ultra-gloss finish.

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« Reply #112 on: September 19, 2018, 07:56:51 pm »
So Ian sprays white goo all over your project? :o

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« Reply #113 on: September 19, 2018, 08:20:10 pm »
So Ian sprays white goo all over your project? :o

Har har.
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« Reply #114 on: September 19, 2018, 08:23:30 pm »
Seriously, I like the way you add extra touches to your posts. It makes for a more interesting project.

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« Reply #115 on: September 19, 2018, 10:22:27 pm »
Cool Stuff!  I wish I was creative like this..
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« Reply #116 on: September 19, 2018, 11:22:28 pm »
Jenn and I are best paint friends now. But I like being the hi build. Good stuff Ond. lol
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« Reply #117 on: September 19, 2018, 11:36:14 pm »
 :laugh2: OMG that's like the funniest thing Jennifer has ever seen, It so gotta be stickied or something! :laugh2: .... Congrats on the guns! that's a big deal and will change your life.

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Re: RoToron ロトロン
« Reply #118 on: Yesterday at 07:04:14 pm »
Click HERE to watch a sneak preview of the animated logo taken from the boot sequence.  The voice is synthetic i.e. created from a text to speech application and then tweaked.   :cheers:

Is that what is being represented in the topic title characters? -> ロトロン


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Re: RoToron ロトロン
« Reply #119 on: Yesterday at 07:55:34 pm »
Click HERE to watch a sneak preview of the animated logo taken from the boot sequence.  The voice is synthetic i.e. created from a text to speech application and then tweaked.   :cheers:

Short and sweet. Loved it. And your projects are always a pleasure to watch, good luck on the build.

Thanks! Hmm the lip sync is a bit out on Vimeo but fine in my media file, oh well.  All these things, logos, the name, the art & theme etc will hopefully work together to be a part of the final product.

Seriously, I like the way you add extra touches to your posts. It makes for a more interesting project.

Well, this hobby is such a serious business.... gotta stand back sometimes and have a laugh.

Cool Stuff!  I wish I was creative like this..
Watching closely now! :)

It's been many months of planning and thinking and pondering, I'm just getting started with following my vision now.  Now is a good time to be watching.

Jenn and I are best paint friends now. But I like being the hi build. Good stuff Ond. lol

:laugh2: OMG that's like the funniest thing Jennifer has ever seen, It so gotta be stickied or something! :laugh2: .... Congrats on the guns! that's a big deal and will change your life.

Heh, you two  :P 

Click HERE to watch a sneak preview of the animated logo taken from the boot sequence.  The voice is synthetic i.e. created from a text to speech application and then tweaked.   :cheers:

Is that what is being represented in the topic title characters? -> ロトロン


Yes, ロトロン is Katakana (Japanese) for RoToron. 

Ok, I have three days off now to see what I can progress.  I need to finish the frame for my vacuum press so I can test some acrylic moulding.  I have this wacky idea to use some salvaged items from a rear projection TV I found.  Specifically, the Fresnel lens sheet.  I wonder if it bends like acrylic?   :-\  We shall see.  This is a 'warts and all project', the good, the bad and the ugly.  Some things work brilliantly, and some things just don't turn out at all.  The design will not change, but how I achieve it takes all kinds of paths.
You might think that you're scared, but you're not.  That isn't fear.  That's your sharpness.  That's your power.

  
 

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