Im going to break up your post and trim them a bit, just so I can hit the major points, hope you dont mind X3.
no better way to start a derogatory post than with an insult..
I suppose if 4 joysticks with a trackball and spinner is a frankenpanel then that is what I chose. I can play centipede and arkanoid on mine though, two of the 15 or so games I regularly play. How does that work out for yours?
By its definition its a frankenpanel. You are the one hung up on taking that as an insult. That's your issue not mine. As for centipede, not a fan would never play it. As for Arkanoid, its one of my all time favorite games and one of my grails. Yes I'd rather have a dedicated cab than try to squeeze a spinner on my panel. I said you chose to have a frankenpanel, and you're arguing that "nuh uh, I CHOSE a frankenpanel" so, you lost me.
I didn't get hung up on anything. You used the term as an insult, all I did was comment on the OPs question and used an analogy that fit well despite your dislike for the subject and apparently the dislike for the two times in the past 2 years I have used classic cars vs modern cars as a comparison to classic arcade cabs to modern arcade cabs.
Not sure what your issue is here, and not sure why the fact that you recycled an old cab and built a rudimentary 4 player CP for it makes you some kind of expert in what makes for a good 4 player cp... Yes, my CP is wider than yours, has a few more buttons, and isn't in a straight row. I also have broad shoulders and don't like having to feel like I am sitting in steerage on a twin prop plane between two fat guys while playing a video game. The space I took to add the trackball was going to be dead space anyway because I wanted the room, and the spinner is recessed and doesn't take up any space when I pull the knob off. Plus, most mame controls, 2 or 4 player, have trackballs these days.. sort of that whole evolution thing this thread is really about. Take that into account and basically my cp is two controls that don't add to my necessary space requirements (and an alignment choice) away from being no different from your CP, yet somehow mine is practically a typical 7 joystick, 58 button, tron stick, two spinner, steeringwheel, cupholders frankenpanel. I guess you also invented the word and are the only one who can decide how it is used, derogatorily or otherwise. Naturally, adding twice the standard controls of a typical cab couldn't possibly make a frankenpanel because then that would define yours as a frankenpanel.. lol. If your gonna sling mud, why don't you insult my graphics or the RGB buttons? For a 4 player CP, mine is pretty damn rudimentary in terms of controls, two more than yours.
My whole point was that the extra 2 square inches of real estate taken by a recessed spinner that goes away the moment I lift the knob off it doesn't justify an entire new cab (or a complicated modular panel system) for one game I play 5 times per year. Yet obviously I committed some kind of holy sacrilege by including it and the exceptionally common trackball (ZOMGWTFBBQ!)
Frankly, if I had the room for 3 or 4 cabs and the time and money to do what I would like, I would have one cab for each situation.
Again, I said you chose a frankenpanel over other possible solutions, such as modular or swappable panels. Multiple cabinets is not the only solution to your "problem". I do not have multiple MAME cabs, you said you plan to.
Great, so there are some more expensive, complicated, or tedious solutions to being able to have one device for all the stuff you want to do. What's your point? Are you saying my points about the OP's question are invalidated because I didn't go with a more expensive option? I did what I did because it worked for me, not so I could get the acceptance of the Great and Mighty Malenko.
To be perfectly honest, I have plans to dismantle the 4 player panel this summer and build a 2 player panel for that cab and finish the artwork. Turns out I am getting rid of my kegerator so I have room for a second cab if I narrow my other one. So I intend to keep the widescreen cab with a trackball and spinner and 2 players and build a second cab with vertical monitor and only 1 joystick with 3 buttons. Might even go with leaf switches and a true 4 way stick... But I shouldn't mention that or someone will tell me it isn't a TRUE leaf switch or that without a JAMMA board it isn't really an arcade cab or some other stupid ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- like that.
I love that you post like X2 then in the same breath make fun of him.
How on this earth did I post like X2? Because I used more than 6 words? Because I mentioned I might try to use a leaf switch on a cab I might build one day??? Just because I think only --bags of cream-filled twinkies-- argue over what control is the only one that works in an arcade cab doesn't mean I can't try a new control out to see if I like it. You know, ignore the fact that I post more than one derogatory sentence to make a point and then go read some of X2's stuff and compare it to yours. You could be his brother.. I am the furthest thing here from an elitist who thinks my opinion is the only one people should listen to. I defend people who get trashed for liking something that isn't popular amongst the purists and I don't hesitate to admit that I was drawn to this hobby by the very attributes of a mame cab that you and others here trash on like they are beneath you.
Yes, I have been thinking about swapping my 4p cp for something sleeker, but that doesn't invalidate why I built it to begin with. I found that of all the controls on my CP, the 3rd and 4th player get used the least. Some of this is because my kids are growing up and don't play as much as I thought they would, some is because some changes in my house mean I have less parties than I did a year ago. It has nothing to do with whether I think I made the wrong choices. Things changed, and I am perfectly OK with losing 24" of my control panel. Why does something like this have to be insulted?
Everyone has an opinion..............
Get off your defensive horse and join us common folk. This isnt crapMAME and no one is putting you on page 6 saying you took tainted meth. We just have a different view of those giant 4 player frankenpanels. You see it as them getting what they want, I see it as them not knowing what they want and spending too much money on something they could enjoy more if they did it right and did some research. if you look in the project section Im super active in there , same goes for restorations and art. I use these boards to both learn and teach not to go around telling people they are wrong or trying to sell ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.
WTF.. you climb up on a pedestal and start slinging insults on posts that weren't even directed at you and then try to say I shouldn't be defensive? You aren't a car guy.. if you were you would have seen how nearly identical some of the people in that hobby are compared to some of the people here. You don't, and that isn't a big deal except you have to make a big deal of it. Anyone who has been in that hobby knows what I am saying and how well it fits. Cool, you are good at being a dick, you convinced me.
I stick to my reasons for building a 4p cp, overhanging the sides and front, and saying that not all noobs that come here looking for advice should be trashed on and insulted for thinking it is cool to have a spinner or lightning bolts on an arcade cab that can play more than one game.
I haven't been that active here lately, for health and other reasons, but I have spent plenty of time helping noobs get away from tronsticks, extra 4 ways, extra 8 ways, and 8 button player 3 and 4 setups. At the same time I totally believe in having spinners and trackballs in a 2 or 4 player mame cab. Why make a cab that can play half the games you like when you can take up a few more square inches and add the other games you like? I did it on a cab that was 2 inches wider than a typical 80's cab and kept it between the side panels. But I'm just a noob with a frankenpanel who doesn't recycle old cabs or use boards to make single game cabs, so what the hell do I know, right?
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