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Author Topic: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 14 March. - Finished]  (Read 63785 times)

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 21 Oct. - Leds]
« Reply #120 on: November 08, 2013, 12:06:49 pm »
so awesome, man :applaud:

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 21 Oct. - Leds]
« Reply #121 on: November 11, 2013, 11:56:06 am »
Can you turn your playfield screen 180 degrees?  You'll want the top to be on the right side.  It'll make your software setup easier.
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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 21 Oct. - Leds]
« Reply #122 on: November 14, 2013, 02:45:11 am »
Yes i can turn it no problem, i could do it by turning the lcd screen, or just in nvidia manager 180 degree turn

Status glas : Delivery today  :cheers:
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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 21 Oct. - Leds]
« Reply #123 on: November 14, 2013, 03:45:22 am »
Yes i can turn it no problem, i could do it by turning the lcd screen, or just in nvidia manager 180 degree turn

Status glas : Delivery today  :cheers:
Status Plunger : November 14, 2013 02:13:00  CUSTOMS CLEARANCE PROCESSING COMPLETE  :cheers:
Status Artwork : November 14, 2013 , 12:05 am Customs clearance processing complete  :cheers:

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Did you use GoG again for your artwork as I read they might not be in business anymore? I was planning to use them to print my - still to create - artwork based on what I have seen from Maximus' and your projects.

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 21 Oct. - Leds]
« Reply #124 on: November 14, 2013, 10:13:52 am »
yep, printed at gameongrafix. it was shipped within 3 days after i put in the order.

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 21 Oct. - Leds]
« Reply #125 on: November 14, 2013, 10:49:11 am »
yep, printed at gameongrafix. it was shipped within 3 days after i put in the order.
Good to know. Thanks!

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 21 Oct. - Leds]
« Reply #126 on: November 14, 2013, 11:08:42 am »
For my Popeye artwork I did order at this place and it was fast, cheap and good quality  :cheers:
I did use a gloss laminated one

http://www.pixartprinting.co.uk/wide-format/printing-self-adhesive-pvc/car-motorcycle-adhesive/

You can take a look at it

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 21 Oct. - Leds]
« Reply #127 on: December 25, 2013, 05:19:50 am »
Here's a xmas update from me, i finished all the woodworking, applied all the artwork and did most of the electronics.
Still need to do some wiring and cleaning things up inside.

I am still waiting for the custom lockdown bar, will get that next year.

Here is some eyecandy.































Merry Christmas

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 25 Dec. - Artwork Applied]
« Reply #128 on: December 25, 2013, 06:54:42 am »
Insanely nice work, dude! :cheers:

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 25 Dec. - Artwork Applied]
« Reply #129 on: December 25, 2013, 11:34:42 am »
Well done Martijn  :applaud:

Enjoy your new creation  :cheers:




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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 25 Dec. - Artwork Applied]
« Reply #130 on: December 25, 2013, 11:47:41 am »
uhhhhhhhhhhhh, turn it on..... :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

Very nice work.

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 25 Dec. - Artwork Applied]
« Reply #131 on: December 25, 2013, 12:52:29 pm »
My goodness, that's pretty.   :cheers:

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 25 Dec. - Artwork Applied]
« Reply #132 on: December 27, 2013, 05:16:57 am »
Thanks, i finished wiring everything inside and did a first ledwiz test to see if everything was done right.

Here are some shots of the wiring.















Those wire sleeves are really nice for managing

Here is a vid of my first ledwiz test.

« Last Edit: December 27, 2013, 05:19:13 am by Martijn »

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 27 Dec. - Wiring Done + Video]
« Reply #133 on: December 27, 2013, 07:24:28 am »
Uitslover! (Damn, that's nice!)

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 27 Dec. - Wiring Done + Video]
« Reply #134 on: December 27, 2013, 10:19:30 am »
WOooooooowwwwww :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 27 Dec. - Wiring Done + Video]
« Reply #135 on: December 27, 2013, 11:11:24 am »
Martijn,
I am considering a very similar build as I have space constraints in the room I want to put my pinball in.  Do you have an approximate cost for all the components pulled together?

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 27 Dec. - Wiring Done + Video]
« Reply #136 on: December 27, 2013, 01:58:10 pm »
Uitslover! (Damn, that's nice!)

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And that great " Pippi Langkous " sample on the background  :cheers:

My pinball will be a budget one  :censored:

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 27 Dec. - Wiring Done + Video]
« Reply #137 on: December 28, 2013, 05:21:35 am »
Thanks all, still far from being completed, it is allot more work then i thought, especially because its a pinball cabinet and not a standard upright.

the software part is giving me headache !  :banghead:

 
Martijn,
I am considering a very similar build as I have space constraints in the room I want to put my pinball in.  Do you have an approximate cost for all the components pulled together?

I think i have about 2000-2500 euro in there  :dizzy:

It can be very budget if you already have a computer, and will paint the cab instead of artwork and install no flashing/vibrating/clicking toys.
If you can find a used pinball cabinet for a cheap price you already have most original parts to make it look authentic.

Because i wanted a smaller one i needed special sizes for everything. And i went for optiwhite hardened glass (both playfield+backglass box), this glass is so strong you can stand on it, and optiwhite versions don't have a green glass glow, its extra clear. 

Here is a closeup picture of one side of the artwork. both sides are different, all the pinball balls have different logos on both sides.



Here a small log about the dmd creating part.

Dmd panel cut to size



I printed out a drilling template and glued it onto the final sized dmd mdf panel



Used the cirlce cutting jig to cut out a circle, not all the way through. because i wont want it to warp, i route out the rest with a copy bit.



Place holders onto the template



Route out the rest



Apply laminate



All done



Then apply the artwork, so you can route out the sticker inside, you can NEVER get such a smooth shave of the sticker with a knife



ultra smooth









Then route of the back for the lcd and speaker, leave 2-3mm of mdf dept left over



Paint the inside edge with a marker, clean up the artwork if it has some markings with some alcohol.



Pressing speaker grill and glued it in place



Done





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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 27 Dec. - Wiring Done + Video]
« Reply #138 on: December 28, 2013, 07:50:55 am »
Very inspiring!  :D

Stupid question maybe, but isn't 0.33 Ohms, as stated in the opening post, for the LED's a little low?

Freezyś wiring diagram shows 33 Ohms  :)
« Last Edit: December 28, 2013, 07:54:45 am by Polyphemus »

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 27 Dec. - Wiring Done + Video]
« Reply #139 on: December 29, 2013, 08:57:11 am »
Great work, I've been inspired by these v-pinball builds and yours is excellent work and greatly documented.  Since I'm new to this, what are the force feedback contactors and do you need 6 of these?  Those things are pricey!

Force Feedback
- contactor 9A 0VAC 12VDC 3RT1016-1BA42

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 27 Dec. - Wiring Done + Video]
« Reply #140 on: December 29, 2013, 06:33:09 pm »
Great work, I've been inspired by these v-pinball builds and yours is excellent work and greatly documented.  Since I'm new to this, what are the force feedback contactors and do you need 6 of these?  Those things are pricey!

Force Feedback
- contactor 9A 0VAC 12VDC 3RT1016-1BA42

Check my thread if you're feeling seriously inspired.  This was based on my build, and I linked the google sketchup build plans in the first post of my thread.  The force feedback contactors are expensive, and you probably won't find them cheap anywhere.

@Martijn - How are you liking the force feedback?  After playing my unfinished cab over the last year, I've decided to leave them out.  It seems like a lot of clutter in such a small space, and I was thinking they might be too much bang for an under-sized cab.  Also... great looking art, but what's up with you and fighter themes?
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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 27 Dec. - Wiring Done + Video]
« Reply #141 on: December 29, 2013, 07:46:50 pm »
Amazing work, as always! Can you give me some details on how you created your LED lighting? Where did you get the LEDs and the great looking caps? I've been searching everywhere for some solution, but can't seem to find something I like that comes even close to yours.

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 21 Oct. - Leds]
« Reply #142 on: December 29, 2013, 08:11:17 pm »
Here's a xmas update from me, i finished all the woodworking, applied all the artwork and did most of the electronics.
Still need to do some wiring and cleaning things up inside.

I am still waiting for the custom lockdown bar, will get that next year.

Here is some eyecandy.































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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 27 Dec. - Wiring Done + Video]
« Reply #143 on: December 30, 2013, 03:58:51 am »
Stupid question maybe, but isn't 0.33 Ohms, as stated in the opening post, for the LED's a little low?
Freezyś wiring diagram shows 33 Ohms  :)

You are right thank you, i made a mistake there, the blue and green need 27 Ohms and red needs 33 Ohms, changing them this week  :cheers:

Great work, I've been inspired by these v-pinball builds and yours is excellent work and greatly documented.  Since I'm new to this, what are the force feedback contactors and do you need 6 of these?  Those things are pricey!
Force Feedback
- contactor 9A 0VAC 12VDC 3RT1016-1BA42

These contactors represent the bumpers, slingshots and flipper relay sound and feedback, you can go without, but it gives more realism.
Some people even wire up 8-9 contactors, i think you are good with 6, the contactors in the back all sound and feel the same to me.
I am even going to rewire the one in the middle-back to the side(right), on that piece of mdf it just sounds dull.
You can get different versions, in the usa 24v versions are more common, but you need a 24v power supply then.
You can check ebay, many sets are offered there. Also many topics on the pinball forums about what contactors are best in sound/speed/feedback.

@Martijn - How are you liking the force feedback?  After playing my unfinished cab over the last year, I've decided to leave them out.  It seems like a lot of clutter in such a small space, and I was thinking they might be too much bang for an under-sized cab.  Also... great looking art, but what's up with you and fighter themes?

The contactos are a nice addition, but you can go without, or just add 2 for the flippers and 2 on the sides for all the action,  they almost sound  the same.
Btw, when you turn up the volume really loud + that sub vibrating the cab you cant really hear them anymore, but still you notice them, somewhere in all that noise you hear the clicks and feel them. Expensive but worth it..
About the artwork, i am just a Capcom and fighter fan, especially sexy female characters ;)

Amazing work, as always! Can you give me some details on how you created your LED lighting? Where did you get the LEDs and the great looking caps? I've been searching everywhere for some solution, but can't seem to find something I like that comes even close to yours.

Thanks, look here for those domes

http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=309
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=310
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=catalog&mode=search&search_in=all&search_str=dome

rgb leds can be found

here : http://www.conrad.com/ce/en/product/181957/Barthelme-66000910-RGB-High-Power-LED?ref=searchDetail
here : http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-pcs-3W-High-Power-RGB-Led-6-Pins-Full-Color-1W-New-/230776117908?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bb541a94#ht_1487wt_1139


Thanks Talkgeek, outside still needs some minor things and that lockdown bar. And now that the basic software is running i can get to tweak all my settings and do a little rewiring.

I learned that the ledwiz ini config tool that you can find online can create the ledwiz.ini but it seems they have preconfigured the RGB slots, i wired them up in BGR  :banghead:
Or i need to find out how to change that or rewire B + R 5 times (6 times actually for the ledstrip)





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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 27 Dec. - Wiring Done + Video]
« Reply #144 on: December 30, 2013, 01:53:39 pm »
About the artwork, i am just a Capcom and fighter fan, especially sexy female characters ;)

Then where is Felicia?



Thanks Talkgeek, outside still needs some minor things and that lockdown bar. And now that the basic software is running i can get to tweak all my settings and do a little rewiring.

Are you going with HyperPin or PinballX?  HyperPin has a little better look to it, but I'm having much better performance with PinballX.  HyperPin always freezes for about 5-10 seconds after exiting a table, whereas PinballX runs like butter.
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« Reply #145 on: January 01, 2014, 08:33:42 pm »
absolutely excellent work mate,  inspiration to us all,  especially me,  as its spurred my enthusiasm to continue working on my build.


well done

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 27 Dec. - Wiring Done + Video]
« Reply #146 on: January 02, 2014, 09:30:42 am »
Thanks, i am still busy with the software part. Can you believe it takes 30-60 minutes per table to get it running decently?
And even after that you can still tweak the table. I find this especially with the Future Pinball tables.

I got the following running
Os : Windows XP
Frontend : PinballX
Visual pinball + dB2S Server + Direct framework input + Ledwiz support
Future pinball + BAM + FutureDMD + Ledwiz support

I havent even looked into Pinball FX or others..

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 27 Dec. - Wiring Done + Video]
« Reply #147 on: January 05, 2014, 06:58:38 pm »
PinballFX... Meh.  :dunno
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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 27 Dec. - Wiring Done + Video]
« Reply #148 on: January 07, 2014, 02:54:16 am »
Martijn,

Awesome man ! congrats

My cab pales in comparison to yours lol :D

Hopefully later this year farsight will include cabinet support in the pinball arcade so we can choose between VP and TPA :)

Good luck with the wiring , the ledwiz tool is the way to go  :afro:
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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 27 Dec. - Wiring Done + Video]
« Reply #149 on: January 08, 2014, 10:42:52 am »
Great job man.  Great build quality and attention to detail.  I'm not a huge fan of Capcom on stuff but it looks well done on your cab.

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 27 Dec. - Wiring Done + Video]
« Reply #150 on: February 28, 2014, 07:13:54 am »
Little more update :

- Changed from Windows XP 32-bit to Windows 7 64-bit, xp was giving me so many problems. Windows 7 is really the way to go.

- Removed the Ebay 4 port Relay switch for the underside cab + stroboscope with ebay http://www.ebay.nl/itm/281191529940 mini rgb amp.
The relay made so much noise, , clicking and buzzing all the time. This item made it silent, highly recommended  :cheers:

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 28 Feb. - Started Lockdownbar]
« Reply #151 on: February 28, 2014, 08:03:39 am »
is there anything you cant do?  This is downright amazing and inspiring. kudos.
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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 28 Feb. - Started Lockdownbar]
« Reply #152 on: February 28, 2014, 08:30:29 am »
I wanted to start a pinball simulator when I finish my hyperspin... But there is no way I'd be able to all of that. Man this is just sweet!
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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 28 Feb. - Started Lockdownbar]
« Reply #153 on: February 28, 2014, 08:37:55 pm »
Stunning work.  Subscribed!

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 28 Feb. - Started Lockdownbar]
« Reply #154 on: March 14, 2014, 05:55:11 am »
is there anything you cant do?  This is downright amazing and inspiring. kudos.

 :laugh: thanks, but this lockdownbar i didnt make. A dads friend works in a metal factory, he made the shape.
I sanded it down and then i went to a poadercoating shop of a acquaintance of mine.

Result  :applaud:  :applaud:

(work in progress pic of the bar)





Because of the structure, you will not see imperfections that easy, also i like how it feels when holding the machine. Plain black was to cold for me.

I mounted it with 3 screws, it fits so tight around the cabinet i almost dont need screws to hold it in place.







Well thats the end of this ride, the cabinet is 100% done hardware wise. Just more table configuring and fine tuning other software things.

Ill make a video soon  :cheers:

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 14 March. - Finished]
« Reply #155 on: March 15, 2014, 12:04:51 pm »
Came out great!

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 14 March. - Finished]
« Reply #156 on: March 20, 2014, 11:27:35 am »
Beautiful.  The only thing I would change if I had the skill to do all this would be to make the T-molding horizontal pieces black to tie in better with the black surround and lockdown bar.  But that is just for me visually.  This thing is a work of art.

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 14 March. - Finished]
« Reply #157 on: March 21, 2014, 02:56:54 pm »
 :applaud:

Bravo!

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 14 March. - Finished]
« Reply #158 on: April 25, 2014, 10:24:48 am »
Can you make a video when the software is all done ? I want to see it in action!  All your builds are insanely well done.  Very inspiring, really awesome!

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Re: Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 14 March. - Finished]
« Reply #159 on: February 17, 2015, 10:59:16 am »
Whoops here is a vid and a gallery

its up for sale !





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