Pinball Cab - MultiBall Madness [Upd 14 March. - Finished]

[deadmoney5]

so awesome, man

[swaffar]

Can you turn your playfield screen 180 degrees?  You'll want the top to be on the right side.  It'll make your software setup easier.

[Martijn]

Yes i can turn it no problem, i could do it by turning the lcd screen, or just in nvidia manager 180 degree turn

Status glas : Delivery today 
Status Plunger : November 14, 2013 02:13:00  CUSTOMS CLEARANCE PROCESSING COMPLETE 
Status Artwork : November 14, 2013 , 12:05 am Customs clearance processing complete 

 
 

[EMDB]

Yes i can turn it no problem, i could do it by turning the lcd screen, or just in nvidia manager 180 degree turn

Status glas : Delivery today 
Status Plunger : November 14, 2013 02:13:00  CUSTOMS CLEARANCE PROCESSING COMPLETE 
Status Artwork : November 14, 2013 , 12:05 am Customs clearance processing complete 

 

Did you use GoG again for your artwork as I read they might not be in business anymore? I was planning to use them to print my - still to create - artwork based on what I have seen from Maximus' and your projects.

[Martijn]

yep, printed at gameongrafix. it was shipped within 3 days after i put in the order.

[EMDB]

yep, printed at gameongrafix. it was shipped within 3 days after i put in the order.

Good to know. Thanks!

[Superfrog]

For my Popeye artwork I did order at this place and it was fast, cheap and good quality 
I did use a gloss laminated one

http://www.pixartprinting.co.uk/wide-format/printing-self-adhesive-pvc/car-motorcycle-adhesive/

You can take a look at it

[Martijn]

Here's a xmas update from me, i finished all the woodworking, applied all the artwork and did most of the electronics.
Still need to do some wiring and cleaning things up inside.

I am still waiting for the custom lockdown bar, will get that next year.

Here is some eyecandy.































Merry Christmas

[emphatic]

Insanely nice work, dude!

Merry Christmas!

[Superfrog]

Well done Martijn 

Enjoy your new creation 

[rablack97]

uhhhhhhhhhhhh, turn it on.....

Very nice work.

[Jumpman64]

My goodness, that's pretty.   

[Martijn]

Thanks, i finished wiring everything inside and did a first ledwiz test to see if everything was done right.

Here are some shots of the wiring.















Those wire sleeves are really nice for managing

Here is a vid of my first ledwiz test.

[blueznl]

Uitslover! (Damn, that's nice!)

[rablack97]

WOooooooowwwwww

[Bill_S]

Martijn,
I am considering a very similar build as I have space constraints in the room I want to put my pinball in.  Do you have an approximate cost for all the components pulled together?

[Superfrog]

Uitslover! (Damn, that's nice!)

 

And that great " Pippi Langkous " sample on the background 

My pinball will be a budget one 

[Martijn]

Thanks all, still far from being completed, it is allot more work then i thought, especially because its a pinball cabinet and not a standard upright.

the software part is giving me headache ! 

 

Martijn,
I am considering a very similar build as I have space constraints in the room I want to put my pinball in.  Do you have an approximate cost for all the components pulled together?

I think i have about 2000-2500 euro in there 

It can be very budget if you already have a computer, and will paint the cab instead of artwork and install no flashing/vibrating/clicking toys.
If you can find a used pinball cabinet for a cheap price you already have most original parts to make it look authentic.

Because i wanted a smaller one i needed special sizes for everything. And i went for optiwhite hardened glass (both playfield+backglass box), this glass is so strong you can stand on it, and optiwhite versions don't have a green glass glow, its extra clear. 

Here is a closeup picture of one side of the artwork. both sides are different, all the pinball balls have different logos on both sides.



Here a small log about the dmd creating part.

Dmd panel cut to size



I printed out a drilling template and glued it onto the final sized dmd mdf panel



Used the cirlce cutting jig to cut out a circle, not all the way through. because i wont want it to warp, i route out the rest with a copy bit.



Place holders onto the template



Route out the rest



Apply laminate



All done



Then apply the artwork, so you can route out the sticker inside, you can NEVER get such a smooth shave of the sticker with a knife



ultra smooth









Then route of the back for the lcd and speaker, leave 2-3mm of mdf dept left over



Paint the inside edge with a marker, clean up the artwork if it has some markings with some alcohol.



Pressing speaker grill and glued it in place



Done

[Polyphemus]

Very inspiring! 

Stupid question maybe, but isn't 0.33 Ohms, as stated in the opening post, for the LED's a little low?

Freezyś wiring diagram shows 33 Ohms 

[jroyal]

Great work, I've been inspired by these v-pinball builds and yours is excellent work and greatly documented.  Since I'm new to this, what are the force feedback contactors and do you need 6 of these?  Those things are pricey!

Force Feedback
- contactor 9A 0VAC 12VDC 3RT1016-1BA42

[swaffar]

Great work, I've been inspired by these v-pinball builds and yours is excellent work and greatly documented.  Since I'm new to this, what are the force feedback contactors and do you need 6 of these?  Those things are pricey!

Force Feedback
- contactor 9A 0VAC 12VDC 3RT1016-1BA42

Check my thread if you're feeling seriously inspired.  This was based on my build, and I linked the google sketchup build plans in the first post of my thread.  The force feedback contactors are expensive, and you probably won't find them cheap anywhere.

@Martijn - How are you liking the force feedback?  After playing my unfinished cab over the last year, I've decided to leave them out.  It seems like a lot of clutter in such a small space, and I was thinking they might be too much bang for an under-sized cab.  Also... great looking art, but what's up with you and fighter themes?

[Rick]

Amazing work, as always! Can you give me some details on how you created your LED lighting? Where did you get the LEDs and the great looking caps? I've been searching everywhere for some solution, but can't seem to find something I like that comes even close to yours.

[talkgeek]

Here's a xmas update from me, i finished all the woodworking, applied all the artwork and did most of the electronics.
Still need to do some wiring and cleaning things up inside.

I am still waiting for the custom lockdown bar, will get that next year.

Here is some eyecandy.































Merry Christmas

The quality and level of detail on this build is just amazing - very impressive

[Martijn]

Stupid question maybe, but isn't 0.33 Ohms, as stated in the opening post, for the LED's a little low?
Freezyś wiring diagram shows 33 Ohms 

You are right thank you, i made a mistake there, the blue and green need 27 Ohms and red needs 33 Ohms, changing them this week 

Great work, I've been inspired by these v-pinball builds and yours is excellent work and greatly documented.  Since I'm new to this, what are the force feedback contactors and do you need 6 of these?  Those things are pricey!
Force Feedback
- contactor 9A 0VAC 12VDC 3RT1016-1BA42

These contactors represent the bumpers, slingshots and flipper relay sound and feedback, you can go without, but it gives more realism.
Some people even wire up 8-9 contactors, i think you are good with 6, the contactors in the back all sound and feel the same to me.
I am even going to rewire the one in the middle-back to the side(right), on that piece of mdf it just sounds dull.
You can get different versions, in the usa 24v versions are more common, but you need a 24v power supply then.
You can check ebay, many sets are offered there. Also many topics on the pinball forums about what contactors are best in sound/speed/feedback.

@Martijn - How are you liking the force feedback?  After playing my unfinished cab over the last year, I've decided to leave them out.  It seems like a lot of clutter in such a small space, and I was thinking they might be too much bang for an under-sized cab.  Also... great looking art, but what's up with you and fighter themes?

The contactos are a nice addition, but you can go without, or just add 2 for the flippers and 2 on the sides for all the action,  they almost sound  the same.
Btw, when you turn up the volume really loud + that sub vibrating the cab you cant really hear them anymore, but still you notice them, somewhere in all that noise you hear the clicks and feel them. Expensive but worth it..
About the artwork, i am just a Capcom and fighter fan, especially sexy female characters

Amazing work, as always! Can you give me some details on how you created your LED lighting? Where did you get the LEDs and the great looking caps? I've been searching everywhere for some solution, but can't seem to find something I like that comes even close to yours.

Thanks, look here for those domes

http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=309
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=310
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=catalog&mode=search&search_in=all&search_str=dome

rgb leds can be found

here : http://www.conrad.com/ce/en/product/181957/Barthelme-66000910-RGB-High-Power-LED?ref=searchDetail
here : http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-pcs-3W-High-Power-RGB-Led-6-Pins-Full-Color-1W-New-/230776117908?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bb541a94#ht_1487wt_1139


Thanks Talkgeek, outside still needs some minor things and that lockdown bar. And now that the basic software is running i can get to tweak all my settings and do a little rewiring.

I learned that the ledwiz ini config tool that you can find online can create the ledwiz.ini but it seems they have preconfigured the RGB slots, i wired them up in BGR 
Or i need to find out how to change that or rewire B + R 5 times (6 times actually for the ledstrip)

[swaffar]

About the artwork, i am just a Capcom and fighter fan, especially sexy female characters

Then where is Felicia?

Thanks Talkgeek, outside still needs some minor things and that lockdown bar. And now that the basic software is running i can get to tweak all my settings and do a little rewiring.

Are you going with HyperPin or PinballX?  HyperPin has a little better look to it, but I'm having much better performance with PinballX.  HyperPin always freezes for about 5-10 seconds after exiting a table, whereas PinballX runs like butter.

[Capp]

absolutely excellent work mate,  inspiration to us all,  especially me,  as its spurred my enthusiasm to continue working on my build.


well done

[Martijn]

Thanks, i am still busy with the software part. Can you believe it takes 30-60 minutes per table to get it running decently?
And even after that you can still tweak the table. I find this especially with the Future Pinball tables.

I got the following running
Os : Windows XP
Frontend : PinballX
Visual pinball + dB2S Server + Direct framework input + Ledwiz support
Future pinball + BAM + FutureDMD + Ledwiz support

I havent even looked into Pinball FX or others..

 

[swaffar]

PinballFX... Meh. 

[njay]

Martijn,

Awesome man ! congrats

My cab pales in comparison to yours lol

Hopefully later this year farsight will include cabinet support in the pinball arcade so we can choose between VP and TPA

Good luck with the wiring , the ledwiz tool is the way to go 

[kahlid74]

Great job man.  Great build quality and attention to detail.  I'm not a huge fan of Capcom on stuff but it looks well done on your cab.

[Martijn]

Little more update :

- Changed from Windows XP 32-bit to Windows 7 64-bit, xp was giving me so many problems. Windows 7 is really the way to go.

- Removed the Ebay 4 port Relay switch for the underside cab + stroboscope with ebay http://www.ebay.nl/itm/281191529940 mini rgb amp.
The relay made so much noise, , clicking and buzzing all the time. This item made it silent, highly recommended 

- Started on Lockdownbar Version 0.3, it fits nice but needs more smooth corners, i am thinking of removing almost 1cm from the corner where you hand palm rests

When its finished ill send it to the painter for same style powder coating as the side-rails

[Malenko]

is there anything you cant do?  This is downright amazing and inspiring. kudos.

[DarakuTenshi]

I wanted to start a pinball simulator when I finish my hyperspin... But there is no way I'd be able to all of that. Man this is just sweet!

[Santoro]

Stunning work.  Subscribed!

[Martijn]

is there anything you cant do?  This is downright amazing and inspiring. kudos.

  thanks, but this lockdownbar i didnt make. A dads friend works in a metal factory, he made the shape.
I sanded it down and then i went to a poadercoating shop of a acquaintance of mine.

Result   

(work in progress pic of the bar)





Because of the structure, you will not see imperfections that easy, also i like how it feels when holding the machine. Plain black was to cold for me.

I mounted it with 3 screws, it fits so tight around the cabinet i almost dont need screws to hold it in place.







Well thats the end of this ride, the cabinet is 100% done hardware wise. Just more table configuring and fine tuning other software things.

Ill make a video soon 

[Santoro]

Came out great!

[jongunz]

Beautiful.  The only thing I would change if I had the skill to do all this would be to make the T-molding horizontal pieces black to tie in better with the black surround and lockdown bar.  But that is just for me visually.  This thing is a work of art.

[a1pharm]

 

Bravo!

[XNIF]

Can you make a video when the software is all done ? I want to see it in action!  All your builds are insanely well done.  Very inspiring, really awesome!

[Martijn]

Whoops here is a vid and a gallery

its up for sale !





pictures https://plus.google.com/photos/112701188581362816340/albums/6116833516029187169