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Multiboot CAB to Mame Conversion
« on: April 01, 2010, 09:54:35 am »
Hi All,

well since my hyperpin cab is complete i am itching for something new and i got a perfect opporunity today:

I have already a converted royal video cabinet to MAME but it uses and x-arcade and its really well not so good  the monitor is also at an angle i cannot use lightguns.

today i bought this :

I don't know the cab model but it house a 28 hantarax monitor which works good says the seller and also the control panel he built custom it will be empty but i will be using my modded x-arcade with led buttons for the new CP

what do you think ? do anyone now this type of cab ? he says its from 2004

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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2010, 04:40:48 pm »
Anyone know the resolution the hantarex 28 can take? i don't know the model until i recieve the cabinet next week

i am going to use my vga breakout cable that i used with my old hantarex soldered to the vid inputs i hope
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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2010, 03:47:19 am »
So to the guy said to me its a Polo 2 so that is ok i guess right?

i had a hantarex 900 mtc in my last cab and still have the jamme connector with the vga breakout cable soldered to it somewhere around , think it will work on the polo 2?
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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2010, 02:06:31 pm »
You Greeks and your backwards control panels.  :laugh: This should be a pretty straightforward conversion, you're not going to paint it black I hope?

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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2010, 03:30:28 pm »
greek ? im from holland lol
what do you mean about the cp ?
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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2010, 06:29:52 pm »
The Marquee looks like greek letters, and the CP is mirrored with player 2 having the stick in his right hand and buttons in the left.

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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2010, 03:31:14 am »
well ill be damned lol it did not even see that !

isn't this a problem if you are a right handed person for player 2? does it play the same?

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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2010, 11:27:21 am »
get rid of the sucky panel and ur xarcade stuff , rebuild the panel from scratch ( maybe with some overlaymetalplate )  and order ipac or jpac . the cab seems fine if the tech is in working condition. it looks like a eurostyle egret 29 . 

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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2010, 05:22:50 pm »
yeah the ipac is ordered

the monitor is in working condition
i will make a new cp overlay with
correct layout but for only 200 euros
with truck delivery it was a good deal
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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2010, 05:26:36 pm »
greek ? im from holland lol
what do you mean about the cp ?

Sorry, the marquee and the reversed control panels (all Greek ones seem to be like that) threw me off. Can't you just flip the metal plate and just remove the joystick mounting plates and put them on the other side? That's what I'd do. If that is indeed a Taito cabinet, these plates should fit: http://www.starcab.net/product_info.php?cPath=219_217&products_id=829

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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2010, 04:35:58 am »
Yeah i could try and flip it , but the guy said he made it manually or something

the IPAC is underway from ultimarc and i have stripped my x-arcade from its novagems with the ledwiz
the delivery guy should call me this afternoon to inform me about the date this week can't wait

oh yeah it seems a taito cab but the egret type of cabs have different panel setup and speakers
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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2010, 04:41:18 pm »
i got the ipac today , but the cab is coming next week damn  :badmood:
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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2010, 03:32:28 pm »
The cab is coming in tommorow so i stripped al my led buttons and the led wiz from my x-arcade
Rewired them all to the new ipac2 

i will be using the old sticks from the x-arcade until i can save some money for two balltop u360's and a new trackball and spinner

Sorry for the grainy pictures crap iphone camera will post better ones tommorow



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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2010, 04:46:04 pm »
I got the cab

the guy forgot the adjustment board for the monitor so that does not work yet
but i got the power hooked up , hacked my vga cable to the jamma connector like i did in my old cabinet

installed two sticks to see it if will fit the CP

will post pics tommorow
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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2010, 05:08:52 am »
Well luckky me not :(

i got 2 chassis with the polo 28 one of dead the guy said the other one worked
so i fired up the working chassins and wham the screen works i like yes let me check if my vga breakout cable works and fire my pc up ( i did the same with my hantarex mtc900) and i heard only POP buzzzzzz fried :(

i got reall pissed with yesterday and almost selled it all but luckily someone from BYOAC forums offered me to fix them for me !! sweet !

here are two more pics





Also when the chassis is fixed i am going to order an arcadevga this will be the safest option for me not to frie the chassis again :)

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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2010, 08:53:16 pm »
ziet er goed uit man, ben benieuwd naar je build check t wel op de hyperspin forum.

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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2010, 05:45:47 am »
Yo Guys,

Question:

Will an arcade vga agp run KI2 fine?

i know have on my old arcade cab:

PIV 3,0 GHZ
2GB Memory
6600gt with soft15kz

but the polo chassis snaps when getting a higher and i don't want to risk it again see posts above
i know the 6600gt is much more powerfull , but will de arcade vga run most chd games?

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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2010, 08:05:26 am »
Well i just ordered one anyway better not to take any chances again
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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2010, 01:41:26 pm »
Does anyone know where a "how to / beginner / noob" guide for wiring a control panel to a pc for a MAME machine. Currently setting up mame. Also what is your opinions on one using a modded xbox vs a pc.

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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2010, 02:25:36 pm »
Does anyone know where a "how to / beginner / noob" guide for wiring a control panel to a pc for a MAME machine. Currently setting up mame. Also what is your opinions on one using a modded xbox vs a pc.

Get yourself either an I-Pac or a A-Pac and make sure to get the wiring harness as well and you'll have no problems. You can't use the ArcadeVGA in an XBox.

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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2010, 04:33:53 pm »
Yeah get yourself an IPAC its really easy to hookup

you can make a wiring harnass yourself its real easy ! i can show you pics if you need to
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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2010, 03:43:32 am »
Can anyone answer my question if the arcadevga agp is enough for ki2? :applaud:
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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2010, 04:59:01 pm »
Can anyone answer my question if the arcadevga agp is enough for ki2? :applaud:

The ArcadeVGA is fantastic at what it does regarding original resolutions. But to be honest everything in Mame is processor related. A graphics can certainly help matters over basic on board video, but the more powerful you go with graphics cards after that doesn't help at all really. I don't play any of the CHD games as I'm just into the classics but from what I hear some of the CHD games can't be run at full speed even on the very latest PCs. It's all about processor power with Mame, not graphics card. That's the way I understand it anyway.

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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2010, 02:21:44 am »
then i should be ok because i use the same
setup only different gpu card
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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2010, 04:33:47 am »
I am from Greece and the marquee says (multigame)
Its true that the greeks like backwards cp....thats the way i made my cp.

Your cabinet has style.!!!!!

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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2010, 10:10:45 am »
Lol ok thanks for translating the marquee:

well i am leaving it for the moment but it all comes down to the second player (aka some friends) if they like it

and yes the cab is from greece i red the adress on the back off it
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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2010, 11:31:10 am »
aah more puzzle pieces:



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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2010, 03:09:38 am »
I am still waiting for one of the chassis to be fixed one is already done  :applaud: thanks go's out to grantspain !!

software update:

I have hyperspin 1.1 installed with the following setup:

1. MAME (mostly fighters, lightgun and vertical shooters)
2. Model 2 (lightgun only)
3. Daphne
4. Sega 32x (starwars arcade :P )
5. Neo Geo (metal slug baby)

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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2010, 07:39:49 am »
Sweet one my fixed chassis over @ grantspain !



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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2010, 08:26:11 am »
Ok i drilled two microswitches near the coin entry's when you press the reject button a credit will be added :)

thanks to all here for the idea !! pics to follow
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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2010, 02:54:29 am »
Little update:

the chassis will back this week thanks for the exxelent service from grantspain !!  :notworthy:
so i can finally continue the convert

but i need some ideas for colors !
like a cool colour scheme not black but something else i am not liking this color at all  :cheers:
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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2010, 05:45:11 pm »
First of all Thanks to Grantspain for the hard work on the chassis !!

Here is in action still needs some tweaking though !!





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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #32 on: June 03, 2010, 12:35:20 pm »
Did Some More Work Today:

1. Wired up the coin switches to the ipac



2. Configured all my buttons with winipac


3. Cleared up the cable mess inside the cab and wired all the cables for the pc inside the cab






4. tested some games !!





WOW ITS BIG


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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2010, 04:17:30 pm »
KI2 sound test:

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Re: Convert Build to MAME / Hyperspin
« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2010, 02:48:08 am »
To Do:

1. Order new marquee and CPO Overlay

2. Mount the speaker housings

3. Put the pc on a wooden board and mount it inside the cab

4. Order 2 USB Hubs

5. Remove Silver stickers on the whole cab

6. Think of a color plan
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Re: Multiboot CAB to Mame Conversion
« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2010, 02:42:28 pm »
Did Some Test Fitting Today:

I got the cabinet placed at it's location also i test fited all the gear below to see if it would fit after i bolted it down on a nice wooden plank with a rail.

I still need some help with the arcadevga because it seems some resolutions seem al lot better then others, maybe it's mame but i used avres to get all the ini files i needed.

Here are somse pics and some vids:










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Re: Multiboot CAB to Mame Conversion
« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2010, 02:51:12 pm »
lol no love for this conversion  ;D

can anyone point me out on avres and which reso to use best on most fighters? seems MK3 gives the best screen fill could i use this for ki2 also?
is there a site that states all the original reso's?
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Re: Multiboot CAB to Mame Conversion
« Reply #37 on: June 10, 2010, 03:31:29 am »
Update:

Ordered two self powered USB hubs for both sides of the cab.
This will connect any external things like keyboard, mouse and in the future aimtrack lightguns
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Re: Multiboot CAB to Mame Conversion
« Reply #38 on: June 10, 2010, 07:14:03 am »
Looking good. What color paint are you considering?

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Re: Multiboot CAB to Mame Conversion
« Reply #39 on: June 10, 2010, 07:24:03 am »
I really don't know yet

i was thinking the monitor bezel painted black

and the rest of the cab a two tone .. any ideas?
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