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« on: December 15, 2009, 08:42:30 am »
Hi All,

well after my royal video conversion i was twisting to start on something i bought 2 real pinball and played them for a few month got bored and sold them i wanted more expensive ones but the prices where not normal around here so i decided to make a pinball cab:

Here is the work so far:























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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 08:44:17 am »
Some Info:

Info:

Base:

CPU: E7400 C2D
Mem: 2 GB DDR2 Geil 800
Vid: Nvidia 9800GTX
HD: 160GB Refurbished SATA
PSU: 430 W

Screens:

18,5 Inch LCD Philips
23,5 Inch LCD Philips

Software:

Windows XP SP3 NL
Visual Pinball 9.03
Pinmame 2.01
HyperPIN FE frontend

Cabinet Construction:

18mm MDF
Pushbuttons HAPP
Custom made lockdown bar
Custom side art need to contact mamemarquees.com
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 08:46:02 am »
More Pics:













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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 08:52:30 am »
Wow, very nice.  I'm liking these pin builds...   :cheers:
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 08:55:43 am »
Thanks, im realling digging the mini cabinet also i have no money for a bigger one and after the ipac and sideart have been done i have kept this around 750 euros so really cheap :)

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 11:17:45 am »
Very nice work!  GTX a bit overkill or required for pinball emulators?  What are you running, VP or Future Pinball?
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2009, 02:56:18 am »
Hi,

well i got the card really cheap from a friend so yes its overkill but i dont want to take any chancen
i am only running visual pinball but dont forget the playfield is in full hd resolution

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2009, 02:52:55 pm »
the cabinet in a movie :) new uvp backglass software installed 

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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2009, 01:04:26 am »
I have never really been a fan of pinball but this is cool. :applaud:   But I might just have to build something like this (the wife loves pinball) one day.

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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2009, 03:10:07 am »
I have never really been a fan of pinball but this is cool. :applaud:   But I might just have to build something like this (the wife loves pinball) one day.

shout if you need any help then !
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2009, 04:38:45 pm »
ok i added the ipac2 and configured it now all buttons work so i dont need my keyboard anymore

im still bondering about what to use as a backbox bezel and also how to cover up my playfield monitor bezel i was thinking some foam strips black or grey any ideas anyone on this?

thanks for the help will post pics and vids tommorow
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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2009, 05:10:44 pm »
I did some painting :) first primer then black paint









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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2009, 10:57:59 am »
Isn't there any options in those virtual pinball programs so that you could pre-render a lot of stuff? What are the absolute minimum requirements if you turn everything down/off and with a table resolution of 800x480? Any chance of running that on a dual-core Atom with GMA950, or at the most, 9400M?

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2009, 05:26:35 am »
Hi Yvan,

well the first problem i see already is the resolution the newer tables wont look as good with that low resolution i already tryed on my mame cab before building the mini pin cab
i dont recomend internal vga cards like the ones you described minimum for running every will ly in the 7600 geforce range better the 9800 even
visual pinball does not run well with ati cards

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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2009, 09:06:57 am »
Hi Yvan,

well the first problem i see already is the resolution the newer tables wont look as good with that low resolution i already tryed on my mame cab before building the mini pin cab
i dont recomend internal vga cards like the ones you described minimum for running every will ly in the 7600 geforce range better the 9800 even
visual pinball does not run well with ati cards

The thing is, I'm planning on doing a micro pinball table, with the playing field at around 7-8" widescreen, probably 800x480. At that size, I can only use a mini-ITX motherboard and can't use any external graphic card. The best video option available AFAIK in integrated graphics is the nVidia 9400M.


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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2009, 09:24:44 am »
Ivan, I'd be curious to see what kind of performance you get out of that integrated graphics chipset.

I have an Asus m3n78-vm mobo running a phenom x2 black and it just flat won't run Future pinball worth a damn.

Mame works just fine, but I know FP relies on the 3d functions of the graphics card. I was QUITE upset by that. Fortunately, I can always stick a card with more horsepower in, but I thought surely that'd be enough to handle FP, but not so, at least as far as I can tell.

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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2009, 09:46:14 am »
Yvan, I'd be curious to see what kind of performance you get out of that integrated graphics chipset.

I have an Asus m3n78-vm mobo running a phenom x2 black and it just flat won't run Future pinball worth a damn.

Mame works just fine, but I know FP relies on the 3d functions of the graphics card. I was QUITE upset by that. Fortunately, I can always stick a card with more horsepower in, but I thought surely that'd be enough to handle FP, but not so, at least as far as I can tell.

I'm guessing/hoping that it depends a lot on the resolution of your play field. If you're trying to run FP at 1920x1080, it probably requires 5.4 times as much GPU power as 800x480. The 9400M could probably be more than enough with all settings and options turned either way down or completely off.

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2009, 09:50:22 am »
Yeah, good point. I was wanting to run it with full effects at 1920x1200 24"dell.

But I'll complain anyway  ;)

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« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2010, 06:49:10 am »
Isn't there any options in those virtual pinball programs so that you could pre-render a lot of stuff? What are the absolute minimum requirements if you turn everything down/off and with a table resolution of 800x480? Any chance of running that on a dual-core Atom with GMA950, or at the most, 9400M?

Hi,
I have a dual core Atom mobo with GMA950(d45gclf2).Visual pinball 8.1 works fairly well with it.Older tables runs flawlessly, but new tables can be a problem.When there is only one ball on the playfield, there is no problem, but at multiball it starts to lag. Visual pinball 9.04 will NOT run on this board only in sw mode (no hw rendering).
I suggest you to get one of those ion boards (with integrated 9400M).I'm not sure how it will handle hw rendering tough.Only VP9 uses hw rendering, the older VP8 uses sw rendering, so cpu power is a must to run every table.
I now have a geforce 9500 card with intel 6300 Dualcore on Asus P5QPL-AM(micro atx mobo) in my cab, and VP9 works perfectly with all tables, it can be a 4 ball multiball - no problem.
Future pinball didn't run on the d45gclf2 at all - needs hw rendering.With my new config FP runs perfectly.

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« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2010, 10:36:36 am »
Isn't there any options in those virtual pinball programs so that you could pre-render a lot of stuff? What are the absolute minimum requirements if you turn everything down/off and with a table resolution of 800x480? Any chance of running that on a dual-core Atom with GMA950, or at the most, 9400M?

Hi,
I have a dual core Atom mobo with GMA950(d45gclf2).Visual pinball 8.1 works fairly well with it.Older tables runs flawlessly, but new tables can be a problem.When there is only one ball on the playfield, there is no problem, but at multiball it starts to lag. Visual pinball 9.04 will NOT run on this board only in sw mode (no hw rendering).
I suggest you to get one of those ion boards (with integrated 9400M).I'm not sure how it will handle hw rendering tough.Only VP9 uses hw rendering, the older VP8 uses sw rendering, so cpu power is a must to run every table.
I now have a geforce 9500 card with intel 6300 Dualcore on Asus P5QPL-AM(micro atx mobo) in my cab, and VP9 works perfectly with all tables, it can be a 4 ball multiball - no problem.
Future pinball didn't run on the d45gclf2 at all - needs hw rendering.With my new config FP runs perfectly.

If it's not any trouble, would it be possible to test your D45GCLF2 again with a resolution of 800x480, with VP8?

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« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2010, 11:47:48 am »
Sure, just tell me which tables. I have a small 7" wide tft to test the setup.I can test it at 800x600...maybe smaller res is also possible with custom res settings.

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« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2010, 11:56:24 am »
Sure, just tell me which tables. I have a small 7" wide tft to test the setup.I can test it at 800x600...maybe smaller res is also possible with custom res settings.

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« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2010, 08:26:03 pm »
This is so awesome :)

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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2010, 04:31:04 am »
Nice i like the help people are giving :)

ow yeah if anyone nows a graphic artist that needs some work?
i need the medieval madness pinball sideart en bacbox sideart custome made
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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2010, 08:42:51 am »
some more progress pics









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« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2010, 03:43:22 am »

Cute  :)

Two things. I don't know much about pinball emulators. Do they have a 'tilt' function? And if so, have you incorporated that? Also, how are you going to finish off that gap at the front?


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« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2010, 03:52:21 am »
yes you can add a nudge function to some buttons but with the uhid-g from ultimarc you can slam the cabinet and the chip will respond as a nudge in the software very cool

also the gap in the front is being worked on by a friend it will house in the near future a custom made lockdown bar :)
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« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2010, 03:14:51 am »
Update:

Lord Hiryu is finishing up my artwork and i got a good price from mamemarquees.com for the printing !  :cheers:

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« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2010, 03:12:55 am »
the sideart is almost applied, sorry for the crappy pictures will send beter ones today :)











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« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2010, 06:25:33 am »
Like said more and better pictures:
















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« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2010, 08:11:49 am »
Mo' betta!  Mo betta!  :applaud:

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« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2010, 09:23:03 am »
LOL i don't know what i means but thanks :)  :applaud:
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« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2010, 09:32:28 am »
You said More and Better pics....  so I shortened it to Mo' Betta...  lol


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« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2010, 04:54:37 pm »
the pics are there lol :P above you
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« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2010, 06:43:20 am »
the pics are there lol :P above you

I know... I saw them, hence the  :applaud:

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2010, 10:55:02 am »
It's Finished :)

the latest addition was a Sharkoon Spin USB hub that i screwed to the underside of the cabinet for easy usb access for my sticks or mouse/keyboard.

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(the vid is still being processed by youtube so sorry for the grainy picture please wait until youtube finishes converting it)
Mini Pinball Project [Finished]:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=98826.0

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http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=101535.0

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2010, 07:53:10 am »
These VP cabs just look too cool.

ps also good to see another dutchie her on the forum :)
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2010, 10:14:27 am »
Thanks,

more dutchies indeed
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2010, 10:09:42 am »
AWESOME  I like the idea of this Mini Pin!  Very nice work.

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2010, 05:36:10 pm »
This is an impressive build.  It inspires me to build one and gives me pictures for my powerpoint presentation I'll need to sell it to my wife!

Question though, what took longer, the build or the software setup?