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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2010, 03:47:21 am »
Well if you not count waiting on art and waiting on th custom lockdown bar i say software is more work , but you can sit down and have some coffee at the same time :P
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #41 on: May 12, 2010, 08:23:22 am »
really small update:

gonna add mercury switches for left and right nudge thanks to chris for the tip in his topic  :notworthy:
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2010, 07:45:54 am »
Ok so i got the nudging to work with the mercury switches.
it's really hard to get it going , adjusting is not easy with those things

i now have them mounted the same way facing but one higher adjusted
it works but if anyone has more tips for me please go ahead.

also some vp tables seem to react faster and tilt out fast any way to adjust or where to look into the script?



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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #43 on: May 22, 2010, 11:01:45 am »
Great work, thanks for sharing the images and vid!

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #44 on: May 24, 2010, 02:52:04 am »
no problem , i am still working on getting the tilting working like i want it works but i give me a double nudge sometimes
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #45 on: November 02, 2010, 09:32:11 am »
Well more cute things will be added:

I got my Led-Wiz and two clear topper lights for the cabinet in the house. !

Thanks to chrizz99 and manowar we are soon getting kick ass light control software to use with our pin-cabs.

Kudos to them , but i wanted to update my own build thread here this week with installation pictures etc.

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X
« Reply #46 on: November 02, 2010, 01:10:28 pm »
Here are some pics :

You see the place the top flashers will be installed, also the leds are working and the sttng table by jpsalas





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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #47 on: November 02, 2010, 06:40:39 pm »
Hi. Im thinking of building one of these and hope to make as "life like" as possible. With real pinball machines there is a sort of proper resistance (a heaviness if you will) when you press the flipper buttons. Is this something that can be replicated as im guessing on most builds just standard "arcade" happ buttons are used which in my opinion wouldnt feel right?

I love the look and really contemplating making one of these if i can make it as "real life" as possible!

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #48 on: November 03, 2010, 03:47:15 am »
Well if you look into chrizz99's topic of his pinball , he installed siemens relais which simulate flipper force feedback.
He also has a youtube video up.

Check it out ! you will be building one very soon
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #49 on: November 04, 2010, 02:25:02 pm »
this is sooooooooooooo cool... i want to build one.

How much is the VP cost?
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #50 on: November 04, 2010, 04:00:27 pm »
this is sooooooooooooo cool... i want to build one.

How much is the VP cost?

The entire pin or the VP software?  VP Software is free.
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #51 on: November 04, 2010, 04:35:02 pm »
this is sooooooooooooo cool... i want to build one.

How much is the VP cost?

The entire pin or the VP software?  VP Software is free.

Both...


I have build 2 MAME machines and i TOTALY want to build a pin machine.

thanks for the help
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #52 on: November 04, 2010, 04:59:44 pm »
this is sooooooooooooo cool... i want to build one.

How much is the VP cost?

The entire pin or the VP software?  VP Software is free.

Both...


I have build 2 MAME machines and i TOTALY want to build a pin machine.

thanks for the help

Mine cost me about $1400 (3 screens), but i got the 45" playfied for $30, so mine does not count.

i would say it would be in the $2500-3500 range depending on what you do.
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #53 on: November 04, 2010, 06:06:02 pm »
My costs including the led-wiz and upcoming led's is around 900 euros...
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #54 on: November 05, 2010, 06:22:28 am »
Little update:
I ordered 2x rgb led drives for the top flashers, they will not be as bright as the cree lights because they where designed for push button illum. but they will do because i am really close up them.

Also ordered 2x electric ice buttons with rgb drives and leaf switches for my cabinet.

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #55 on: November 05, 2010, 05:19:19 pm »
where do I get the VP program?
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #56 on: November 05, 2010, 05:59:48 pm »
eating is overrated... shiny electronics are a necessity...

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #57 on: November 06, 2010, 04:04:07 am »
Go to the vpforums.org, register there.
Read all you can...

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if you have any offtopic questions pm me
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #58 on: November 18, 2010, 02:57:12 am »
Hi,

So i installed one top flasher with an RGB drive from GGG.
It's not as bright as those high power leds that chris77 uses, but for my mini pin they will do.

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #59 on: November 18, 2010, 02:31:15 pm »
fantastic.  im getting closer to finishing my first mame cabinet from the ground up.  def have a pin machine on my list of things to try to build. thanks for the detail photos/info as I do not have room for a full size pinball machine and a full size cab.. so full size cab and a smaller pin will do  >:D  so much to learn.  wish i would of found this forum sooner, like before is started my cab..   o well. better late than never. heh.

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #60 on: November 18, 2010, 04:19:34 pm »
fantastic.  im getting closer to finishing my first mame cabinet from the ground up.  def have a pin machine on my list of things to try to build. thanks for the detail photos/info as I do not have room for a full size pinball machine and a full size cab.. so full size cab and a smaller pin will do  >:D  so much to learn.  wish i would of found this forum sooner, like before is started my cab..   o well. better late than never. heh.

chris.

I got plans if you need them...

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #61 on: November 18, 2010, 04:49:06 pm »
Here is a simple reaaaly simple wiring diag for one rgb led and the ledwiz:

the rbg drive from ggg comes equiped with a 4wire cable attached to the driver itself:

split the wires carefully

run the 3 grey wires to 3 different ports on the wiz
run the grey/red wire to the 5v output

for more led 5v power use a terminal strip and piggy bank the connections

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #62 on: November 18, 2010, 08:51:07 pm »
hey thanks for the offer. ill take you up on the offer for the plans when i get ready ( Im a year away from a pin project..  once i finish my cab, i have to build my sister a cab.. i also want a bar top for taking to my parents for holidays etc so many projects.  also hate to say it im already considering a different cab for my own place and giving this box away. laughs not even done and i have just added lots of irons in the fire.  all i have left to do with my current project is monitor/control panel and configure software and i can start a new project..  i started 3 and half months ago.. thank goodness the mamerooms plans are good or i would of been lost with out any help on building a cab. ).  thanks again man. rock on.
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #63 on: November 19, 2010, 02:58:03 am »
No problem,

Good luck with all your projects and maybe in the future we can help each other out.

Give me a msg when you need them !

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #64 on: November 19, 2010, 10:18:26 am »
I love the mini-pin idea, especially since my Wife has a 19" 4:3 LCD monitor that's gathering dust, and I can pick up a nice 24" LCD for under $200.  I think my skills with MDF should be adequate to build a couple of boxes (hopefully) and I'll definitely be referencing your build when I do mine!

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #65 on: November 19, 2010, 10:43:47 am »
rediculously awesome - Very jealous!!!   :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #66 on: November 20, 2010, 02:56:47 am »
I love the mini-pin idea, especially since my Wife has a 19" 4:3 LCD monitor that's gathering dust, and I can pick up a nice 24" LCD for under $200.  I think my skills with MDF should be adequate to build a couple of boxes (hopefully) and I'll definitely be referencing your build when I do mine!

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wow thanks rick.. i am following your build with every step your cab is going to kick ass !
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #67 on: November 21, 2010, 02:42:35 pm »
Installed Leaf switches for the flipper button left one works perfect , the right one sometime fails to respond.

How can i adjust these easily?

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #68 on: November 26, 2010, 05:56:02 pm »
Being a big fan of VP and Pinmame I have a couple questions for you:

1) How did you get the split screens to work
2) What are you using to get the menu to select the tables you want to play?

Thanx,
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #69 on: November 26, 2010, 10:49:03 pm »
OK.  So after several edits I think I understand that last question.   :-[  (It's just been one of those days).  When I was playing with hyperpin the left and right flippers scrolled through the tables and the plunger selected them.
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #70 on: November 27, 2010, 04:06:43 am »
I love these mini pin builds!  Gratz man.... that looks great!   :cheers:

I didn't even know you could get anything like mercury switches. So does the nudge feature work OK now? I would think that maybe when you nudge left or right won't both of the mercury switches activate? Are they just wired into standard button positions on the Ipac? I think you can have a nudge front/up button too yes?

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #71 on: November 27, 2010, 04:08:03 am »
Being a big fan of VP and Pinmame I have a couple questions for you:

1) How did you get the split screens to work
2) What are you using to get the menu to select the tables you want to play?

Thanx,
Geo

Read this build thread from mwong, it explains the setup of FS tables.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=102628.0

Yes the menu switching works with the flipper buttons you can configure it through the settings file

For the split screen: those are FS tables meaning the table will be on your main monitor and the backbox wil be loaded with UVP if you choose it,  on the second screen.
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #72 on: November 27, 2010, 04:09:43 am »
The mercury switches are wired to the IPAC so it's just a button press.
But to be honest it's really hard to get them to work right... you get double nudges all the time.

So when i finish the led project i am going to look into the UHID-G from ultimarc should be better i hope.

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #73 on: November 27, 2010, 10:38:33 am »
That's what I'm seeing from using the mercury switches, too.

With a minipin, I'd imagine it being even worse because of the pin's smaller size...

I'm kinda wishing I just gone with the UHID-G in the first place<sigh>

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #74 on: November 27, 2010, 05:55:11 pm »
Yeah i will probably remove them and order the UHID  :applaud:
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #75 on: November 27, 2010, 07:58:39 pm »

Read this build thread from mwong, it explains the setup of FS tables.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=102628.0

Yes the menu switching works with the flipper buttons you can configure it through the settings file

For the split screen: those are FS tables meaning the table will be on your main monitor and the backbox wil be loaded with UVP if you choose it,  on the second screen.

Wow!  Thanx for the info.  This is really cool!  I never knew you could split Visual Pinball across several monitors like that.

So the big question I have for you now is this:

How does it compare to playing a real pinball machine?

Nevertheless, the concept is great especially for those short on space...here you can play several machines in one cabinet much like with Mame and video games.

Thanx,

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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #76 on: November 27, 2010, 09:37:56 pm »
The mercury switches are wired to the IPAC so it's just a button press.
But to be honest it's really hard to get them to work right... you get double nudges all the time.

So when i finish the led project i am going to look into the UHID-G from ultimarc should be better i hope.



When you do, let me know as I have a couple of extra ones I need to sell.
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #77 on: November 28, 2010, 03:25:41 am »

Read this build thread from mwong, it explains the setup of FS tables.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=102628.0

Yes the menu switching works with the flipper buttons you can configure it through the settings file

For the split screen: those are FS tables meaning the table will be on your main monitor and the backbox wil be loaded with UVP if you choose it,  on the second screen.




Wow!  Thanx for the info.  This is really cool!  I never knew you could split Visual Pinball across several monitors like that.

So the big question I have for you now is this:

How does it compare to playing a real pinball machine?

Nevertheless, the concept is great especially for those short on space...here you can play several machines in one cabinet much like with Mame and video games.

Thanx,

Geo

It's not the same as a real machine, but with the upcoming led-wiz project we are one step closer. but i play it everyday, and it's a lot cheaper then buying a real machine if you are into mame you will like this also :)
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #78 on: November 28, 2010, 03:27:20 am »
The mercury switches are wired to the IPAC so it's just a button press.
But to be honest it's really hard to get them to work right... you get double nudges all the time.

So when i finish the led project i am going to look into the UHID-G from ultimarc should be better i hope.



When you do, let me know as I have a couple of extra ones I need to sell.

So you need the two i am pulling out of my cab? sure thing man it's free if you only pay shipping i am cool with it ! PM me
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Re: Project Mini Pin - X - Project LED 2-11-2010
« Reply #79 on: November 29, 2010, 06:42:53 pm »
The mercury switches are wired to the IPAC so it's just a button press.
But to be honest it's really hard to get them to work right... you get double nudges all the time.

So when i finish the led project i am going to look into the UHID-G from ultimarc should be better i hope.



When you do, let me know as I have a couple of extra ones I need to sell.

So you need the two i am pulling out of my cab? sure thing man it's free if you only pay shipping i am cool with it ! PM me


which?  the mercury switches?  Nah, I got some.

LMK when you want to pick up a UHID-G.  I have 2 I need to sell.
My projects...

Finished:  Stargate (only 'cause I got it that way)
In progress:  Tron, 48-in-1 for School Auction, DKJr (currently a 60-in-1), Millipede, MAME System