Help me learn a $40 lesson

[Malenko]

do the dipswitches match between boards? It kinda looks like the 60 in 1 is pushing out a VGA signal to a 15Hz monitor

[ark_ader]

What is the return policy on this contraception?  As it looks like you have fried it.

[Haloman800]

do the dipswitches match between boards? It kinda looks like the 60 in 1 is pushing out a VGA signal to a 15Hz monitor

That was it!! So I know now that my board isn't fried, it's my power supply. Thank you!

One quick question. My older 60 in 1 has 8 switches on it, any idea what 5-8 does?

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[yotsuya]

Aaaannnd we're back to dipswitches.

At least power supplies are easy to get. 

[leapinlew]

Source: http://bfy.tw/A0Lc

Page 3: www.koceraj.hu/Koceraj/Mi_ez_files/60-in-1_Arcade_Manual.pdf

It was my turn to be Arky

[Haloman800]

5-8 do nothing. Good to know.

Thank you everyone who helped, and thanks for everyone who didn't for the free bumps I'll be contacting the vendor to get this power supply replaced.

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[pbj]

 

Anyway, he's clearly getting power from the molex connector.  Probably flipped the JAMMA harness, pressed some buttons, and shorted out the power supply.

Test the voltages coming out of your power supply..... Or just use another power supply.

Nailed it. 

 

[Haloman800]

PBJ, you are right about me shorting the power supply, but I did not flip the harness. Mine has a key so that's impossible.

Any tips on avoiding shorting out a power supply? I was plugging it into a power squid, did that have a negative effect?

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[smass]

Thank you everyone who helped, and thanks for everyone who didn't for the free bumps

Well played padawan, well played 

[pbj]

Arcade cabinets - 90% of the time it's the power supply.

Pinball machines - 90% of the time it's a connector.

[dkersten]

it's bad enough that this hobby rips off copywriter items

Just out of curiosity, are you one of those copyright holders?  Do you have any IP that is being pirated?  Or are you just taking up a cause that the actual IP owners don't bother with?

As someone who owns IP and makes an active income from it, I not only accept that my property is being pirated every day, but I also don't let that fact stop me from doing the very same thing.  Granted, I will buy something if I really want it and it is for sale for a reasonable price. 

But the simple fact is, there are people who will never pay me (or the copyright holders of old ass arcade games) for my IP, so what does it matter if those people pirate it?  At the VERY WORST, someone pirates something and likes it, talks about it, and then someone who is WILLING to pay for it buys it legitimately.  There is no downside to the IP holder.  If they stop the pirates, they gain nothing, if they let the pirates take it, they might get a sale. 

Just sayin...

[ark_ader]

it's bad enough that this hobby rips off copywriter items

Just out of curiosity, are you one of those copyright holders?  Do you have any IP that is being pirated?  Or are you just taking up a cause that the actual IP owners don't bother with?

As someone who owns IP and makes an active income from it, I not only accept that my property is being pirated every day, but I also don't let that fact stop me from doing the very same thing.  Granted, I will buy something if I really want it and it is for sale for a reasonable price. 

But the simple fact is, there are people who will never pay me (or the copyright holders of old ass arcade games) for my IP, so what does it matter if those people pirate it?  At the VERY WORST, someone pirates something and likes it, talks about it, and then someone who is WILLING to pay for it buys it legitimately.  There is no downside to the IP holder.  If they stop the pirates, they gain nothing, if they let the pirates take it, they might get a sale. 

Just sayin...

Well I totally agree with you on that point.  You will have a margin for that reality.  Triple A games sell enough to cover any loss to piracy, and tighter controls are improving the odds of being stolen from.  I work for a very very large concen that the above scenario probably wouldn't apply.  But that wasn't the case for a smaller firm that created android apps, that suffered greatly by the hands of pirates.  Game copying has gone on since the early days of the spectrum 48, and the commodore 64, but the game still had the copywrite displayed.  I'm sure nearly all games did.  As does this hobby with mame.

The 60 in one is a different creature, where the developers of the said boards removed all copywrite off the games and used an old version of mame. These guys could not even make an emulator for it.  The whole product is shameful.  If you support it by buying them, then you should be ashamed too.

There has to be a limit to the hypocrisy.  When I see those boards being actively supported makes my blood boil.  Especially on this site.  Rest assured this hobby is free from litigation but the damage done by these boards, wipe off years of purity or originality from those who cherish this hobby and its preservation of history.

[Mike A]

The hyperbole is getting knee deep. I hope you apply the same anger to artwork and photography. The motion images in your signature might have an attribution. There is some text in the corner, but you cannot read it. Even if you gave credit to the person who assembled the file you use there is no attribution to the Star Wars copyright holder for using their IP. This has become so commonplace that you should probably stay off of the internet because your righteousness-o-meter will probably explode.

[leapinlew]

The hyperbole is getting knee deep. I hope you apply the same anger to artwork and photography. The motion images in your signature might have an attribution. There is some text in the corner, but you cannot read it. Even if you gave credit to the person who assembled the file you use there is no attribution to the Star Wars copyright holder for using their IP. This has become so commonplace that you should probably stay off of the internet because your righteousness-o-meter will probably explode.

^agree

[gdonovan]

^agree

X2

[yotsuya]

^agree

X2

Steve?

[ark_ader]

The hyperbole is getting knee deep. I hope you apply the same anger to artwork and photography. The motion images in your signature might have an attribution. There is some text in the corner, but you cannot read it. Even if you gave credit to the person who assembled the file you use there is no attribution to the Star Wars copyright holder for using their IP. This has become so commonplace that you should probably stay off of the internet because your righteousness-o-meter will probably explode.

The video where I took the animation is considered fair use, also Lucasfilms consider fan films fair use also.  But you are welcome to contact either party directly or as a group and I will remove it willingly if either party objects.  I have not modified the original file from where I obtained it from.  Also all IP are being shown without any modifications, nor am I accepting any fee, advertising, or intentionally removing IP.  If you have any complaints,  contact Saint (as it is his web site) or any moderator, the creator of the clip, or Disney.

My suggestion to you is to start engaging your brain and do some research before making alegations.  Not only will you be more informed, but you will not look like a childish idiot (the kindest observation I can make of you and your compatriots, without lowering myself to your level). 

Now while we are talking about copyright (if my android is spelling it right)  let us touch on artwork for cabinets and please do tell me that you have researched, contacted said copyright holders for use of artwork for this hobby, so they can weigh into this post and make valid arguments.  Also please remind everyone here the people who engage in using said IP, do not remove the copyright holders name from said artwork.  I haven't seen it, though I could be wrong.  Let us see how deep the rabbit hole goes.

Actually let us hear from vendors who make reproductions.  Let us hear if they make a documented attempt to gain permission to copy and sell IP protected artwork.  Is there a disclaimer?  I am sure that there is some sort of disclaimer shown.  I doubt if any royalties are paid though.  Actually I am requiring you to inform all copyright holders that is associated with this hobby that their rights may have been infringed.  Had you have done your homework (which gives me doubts that you have engaged in any formal education) you would have come across Nintendo.  Here is their stance on the subject and as a good citizen, report those who infringe on their copyright.

We keep the IP of the copyright holders clearly on the artwork, we make no changes as we want to preserve the originality of the IP.  We purchase from licensed vendors for artwork and software.  Totally different to the 60 in one, where IP is stripped. 

Your original attempt to ridicule me, hasn't worked.  Maybe you can learn from your mistakes.  Let us see if you can make the attempt.

[smass]

Frankly dude, you are doing just fine making a fool of yourself all on your own...keep it up this thread is becoming a classic. 

[Mike A]

It is even funnier because he complains about this hobby ripping off copyright earlier in the thread. When I call him out on his lack of attribution, he launches a defense of the very thing he was complaining about. The fact of the matter is we are all operating in a gray area. Casting stones at the OP was low class. When I called Ark out on it he attacked me personally. That was low class. I sank to his level at one point. That was low class. I won't do it again.

[ark_ader]

It is even funnier because he complains about this hobby ripping off copyright earlier in the thread. When I call him out on his lack of attribution, he launches a defense of the very thing he was complaining about. The fact of the matter is we are all operating in a gray area. Casting stones at the OP was low class. When I called Ark out on it he attacked me personally. That was low class. I sank to his level at one point. That was low class. I won't do it again.

You associated my avatar to this discussion.  I have corrected you.  My avatar is not a gray area.  60 in ones are not a gray area.  You are wrong.  I was wrong to make those implied comments about your education, and to be honest, were made in jest.  If you are going to throw stones,  do it with honesty and conviction.  Personal attacks are apt but unnecessary, we are adults and I understand.  It is a gray area we hobby in, let us not support those who operate in the black.  Simple as that.

[pbj]

Can't wait til the jackbooted thugs start kicking down the doors of Amazon and EBay...



 

[Le Chuck]

the damage done by these boards, wipe off years of purity or originality from those who cherish this hobby and its preservation of history.

Is it just purity being wiped off by the boards or the years to which the purity is attached?  I am confusededed.  Is purity always measured in time and if so does it directly equate to time itself?  How many years get wiped per 60-n-1 purchase?  I left a cellphone in a Paris hotel room in 2008.  That loss set off a chain of events that, I believe, culminated with this thread happening.  I'd like to go back and not lose my phone so this schmamortion never happens.  How many boards do I need to get to ensure I leave with that phone. 

 

[Mike A]

Yeah. Sorry about this mess. I am pretty new here. It's partly my fault. I just didn't want the OP to get rocks thrown at him for asking a question. Most people here are really helpful. I just need to learn who is here just to pick a fight for no reason. Lesson learned.

[leapinlew]

Frankly dude, you are doing just fine making a fool of yourself all on your own...keep it up this thread is becoming a classic. 

Yeah, my favorite is the part how he thinks there is an argument and that somehow he's winning

[Nephasth]

It is even funnier because he complains about this hobby ripping off copyright earlier in the thread. When I call him out on his lack of attribution, he launches a defense of the very thing he was complaining about. The fact of the matter is we are all operating in a gray area. Casting stones at the OP was low class. When I called Ark out on it he attacked me personally. That was low class. I sank to his level at one point. That was low class. I won't do it again.

You associated my avatar to this discussion.  I have corrected you.  My avatar is not a gray area.  60 in ones are not a gray area.  You are wrong.  I was wrong to make those implied comments about your education, and to be honest, were made in jest.  If you are going to throw stones,  do it with honesty and conviction.  Personal attacks are apt but unnecessary, we are adults and I understand.  It is a gray area we hobby in, let us not support those who operate in the black.  Simple as that.

Didn't Gray Area get banned?

[CheffoJeffo]

Didn't Gray Area get banned?