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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2014, 09:26:27 pm »
I condensed that in order to avoid dkenstenian Walls O' Text.

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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2014, 10:00:55 pm »
Whoever made that recreation did a great job!  Seems the topic of this new trailer is the "great sword" lightsaber.  Any thoughts on this lightsaber?

If it weren't for the prequels, that lightsaber might be kinda cool.  But the prequels ruined lightsabers, so now it's just gimmicky.
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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2014, 01:34:51 am »
I'm gonna go on a limb and say that dark Jedi isn't Luke. Mostly because I don't think Luke would ever have a need to retool his lightsaber style. Would require him to fight in a very different way.

JJ would have to tread carefully turning luke to the dark side. Anakin's transition wasn't believable and his whole backstory was easily the biggest downfall of the prequels. Luke's dip towards the dark side was very compelling in Empire; he was trying to save his friends lives. Everyone watching wanted him to do the same thing. Lucas didn't quite give any compelling reasons to murder Jedi babies.

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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2014, 12:06:13 pm »
I'm gonna go on a limb and say that dark Jedi isn't Luke. Mostly because I don't think Luke would ever have a need to retool his lightsaber style. Would require him to fight in a very different way.

JJ would have to tread carefully turning luke to the dark side. Anakin's transition wasn't believable and his whole backstory was easily the biggest downfall of the prequels. Luke's dip towards the dark side was very compelling in Empire; he was trying to save his friends lives. Everyone watching wanted him to do the same thing.


I agree, those are very true points.



Lucas didn't quite give any compelling reasons to murder Jedi babies.

There were plenty of compelling reasons watch the video.....I have to post this...it is one of my favorite videos ever posted online:




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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #45 on: December 04, 2014, 10:04:53 pm »
My absolute favorite Star Wars Parodies are the Auralnauts recuts of the prequel trilogy. They recut and redubbed all 3 movies. Plot much better than before. It is a must see.






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« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2014, 02:28:08 am »
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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #47 on: December 05, 2014, 06:36:36 am »
So much hype for a movie that is going to release after one full year... It can only be Star Wars and nothing else!  :applaud:
Since the release of the trailer, it has already amassed more than 60 million views; that's the best first week of any trailer in 2014.

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« Reply #48 on: December 05, 2014, 10:22:21 am »


Showing my age, I suppose, but I was always partial to this one.


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« Reply #49 on: December 05, 2014, 12:10:45 pm »
I was a huge fan of the "Lucasfilm authorized" books, and even read the long winded story behind how they got permission to kill off Chewy from Lucas himself, and how every one of the stories were approved before they could be published.  So I took them as the official storyline and I loved them all, at least right up until about the time of the "young jedi" series where I stopped reading them altogether.  Then the prequels came out and completely and utterly destroyed the entire Star Wars universe that tons of talented authors had created.  Before that I was a fan of Lucas.  I worked in the home audio business for a number of years, and just about everyone I worked with had been to Skywalker Ranch to go through the THX school.  The man was a legend to me, not just because of movies like Star Wars or Indiana Jones, but also because of his pioneering work in special effects and audio. 

When Star Wars Galaxies came out, I was there for the beta and played religiously.  The game was insanely buggy, but it was STAR WARS in every way, INCLUDING how a jedi was super rare.  I think that was the best part of the game, there wasn't a million jedi running around... it was just a game set in the universe that had been created by Lucas and filled in by some really talented story tellers over the years.  For every ten thousand players, one *might* reach Jedi, and nobody knew how to go about getting there.  Then they caved to the masses and made it so anyone could be a Jedi, the game got hacked so the economy went to hell, then Sony took control from the development team and rewrote the whole thing and from what I heard it was worse than ever after that.  I quit long before that all happened.

Not too long after that the movies came out, and since then I have hated Lucas for not hiring someone who could direct or write.  I realize it was his to destroy, and that in his mind the billions of dollars he made make it a success, but while he created a new empire of his own with the merchandising, he destroyed the universe it was set in..  Worst of all though, he destroyed what I think was really great about Star Wars - the rarity.  People loved the movies but aside from some action figures and models, there was NOTHING for several years.. no home version, no movie channels playing it all day, no way to get a hold of that stuff, and it made it special.  When a TV special would come out, EVERYONE watched it because it was FRIGGIN STAR WARS!  I played that buggy game because it was FRIGGIN STAR WARS!  When a new movie came out, it was sold out for weeks because it was FRIGGIN STAR WARS!  And now you can't go a day without seeing or hearing something "star wars", so it is just another brand now, and a brand from a fictional universe that has several time lines, none of which match up, without any kind of coherence or order to them whatsoever.  Star wars is just about light sabers, jedi powers, and cute alien races that make kids laugh.. 

I still like the idea of a decent star wars movie, and I always enjoy anything high budget on the big screen, whether the story sucks ass or not.  Cool effects and interesting ideas fuel my imagination, but that is about as far as it goes.  I will go to see the new movies, and a part of me will hope they will be decent, but the "star wars storyline" is dead to me, so bring on the funky light sabers and fun to watch scenes where those shiny hand held laser swords are twirling around and everyone is a force enhanced martial artist.  Bring on the wheezy robots and painted faces and old dudes with dildo looking lightsabers, and I will still spend my $12.50 to get a ticket to watch it.  And when it is over, I will shrug and smile and say "cool, what comes out next week?" then go have a beer and watch a tv show.

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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #50 on: December 05, 2014, 12:56:38 pm »
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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2014, 03:31:41 pm »


Showing my age, I suppose, but I was always partial to this one.

Troops was hilarious and very well done.

dkersten:  sadly I agree with you, it was Lucas' story/world to destroy.  I was angry when he threw out all of the hard creative work others had put into the expanded universe after profiting from that work.  He opened the playground for others and then when it was convenient he threw it all away.

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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2014, 04:49:50 pm »
I was angry when he threw out all of the hard creative work others had put into the expanded universe after profiting from that work.  He opened the playground for others and then when it was convenient he threw it all away.


I don't understand why this is an issue. Just because they "threw it out" doesn't mean you can derive pleasure and enjoyment from those stories. Not a knock against people who feel that way, but it's not like they rounded up all those books and DVDs and burned them all.
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« Reply #53 on: December 05, 2014, 05:27:20 pm »
I was angry when he threw out all of the hard creative work others had put into the expanded universe after profiting from that work.  He opened the playground for others and then when it was convenient he threw it all away.


I don't understand why this is an issue. Just because they "threw it out" doesn't mean you can derive pleasure and enjoyment from those stories. Not a knock against people who feel that way, but it's not like they rounded up all those books and DVDs and burned them all.

They didn't burn those books but they did severely reduce their value.  I read the books to expand on the Star Wars cannon.   I invested a lot of time into reading those books and like I said in my earlier post the material has been turned into fan fiction.  I have zero interest in fan fiction. 

That being said I'm somewhat indifferent at this point and can understand why they are ignoring the books.  Killing Chewbacca was a bad idea--especially when it is a character than can be in SW movies forever since the actor is not critical.  Also IMHO Han's character was rarely handled properly in the books.   Also why would the movie producers want to handcuff themselves to story lines only known by a small percentage of the fans?

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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2014, 05:35:26 pm »
Reducing canon to fan fiction is a serious offense, you see.


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« Reply #55 on: December 05, 2014, 05:38:24 pm »
Reducing canon to fan fiction is a serious offense, you see.

Agreed.  On par with deleting old threads.

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« Reply #56 on: December 05, 2014, 06:33:42 pm »
To each their own, but I enjoy a good epic story that fits together nicely.  When it starts contradicting or ignoring something that happened, I lose interest and can no longer feel passionate about it.

For example, I used to really enjoy reading W.E.B Griffin.  He writes some great historical fiction and I didn't discover him until he had four well developed series of books, so I was able to really dive in and spend many hours reading continuous story lines.  His series "Badge of Honor" was fantastic, all about the Philadelphia police.  But the main character in this series was a cop in the late 70's.  He had the CB radio in his car, had to find a payphone to call things in, etc.  Then suddenly in the next book he is using a laptop, has a cell phone, etc, yet he is the same age as the last book and talking about events that happened recently even though the stories in those events took place in a setting 3 or 4 decades prior.  The disconnect screwed the whole thing up for me.  And he didn't just do that in that series, he did it in most of them.. So I had to stop reading his stuff.  It just screwed up the whole story for me.  To me it is like starting a single movie with Tom Cruise as the actor portraying the main character, and halfway through the movie the character is now portrayed by Jim Carrey, but it is only the next day, and nobody seems to notice except me, the guy in the audience going "wait, wtf just happened?"

Sure, you can enjoy some of the stories on their own, but it was the whole story that made it really great, and that is gone now.  The happiest I have been with "Star Wars" in the last 15 years was when Lucas sold it to Disney because now I know that any movies coming out in the future will more than likely have dialogue that doesn't sound like it was written by a 3rd grader, and probably have actors that can.. well, act.  And ANYONE could direct better than Lucas.  Anyone.  The red solo cup on my desk could direct better than him, and probably write a better script. 

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« Reply #57 on: December 07, 2014, 03:25:49 pm »
I thought I was immune to Star Wars hype after four disappointing sequels in a row, and several decades of increasingly tacky merchandising, but I must admit, I did get a bit of a kick out of seeing the Millenium Falcon swooping over the planet at the end of the trailer. The rest of it just made me shrug.
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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #58 on: December 07, 2014, 09:04:35 pm »
I'm just waiting for this trilogies version of Boba Fett.

Jango Fett
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My biggest concern if that like some many action movies these days - they showed all the good parts in the teaser.  The rest of the movie will just support those scenes.

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« Reply #60 on: December 08, 2014, 11:25:56 am »
Well, now that Lucas made every soldier in the clone wars a clone of Fett, they will bring him back, even if it is a different Fett.. Just another place where the previous "official story" changed.  In the books, Boba Fett survived being eaten by the sarlacc, and went on to have many more stories written about him.  I am sure they will change all that, however, and come up with something about the force and some sith who rescued him, or just call him another clone blah blah blah..

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« Reply #62 on: December 08, 2014, 12:44:31 pm »
Look at it this way...the bar is set pretty low after the prequels...any movie likely will shine in comparison.

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« Reply #63 on: December 08, 2014, 01:43:00 pm »
It's okay, admit it, everyone kinda liked Phantom Menace when you first walked out of that theater.


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« Reply #64 on: December 08, 2014, 01:58:03 pm »
Disney wouldn't have dropped the Billions if they didn't think they could pull it off

I hate referencing reddit but from the sounds of it JJ and Disney are butting heads on some things.  Which might be a good thing.  I can for see Disney trying to make the movie into a wholesome piece while JJ is giving it the justice it deserves. 

And truth be told I thought the prequels were 10x better than the original trilogy.




...Seriously.  Loved 'em.  The prequels.  Not the originals.  The Ewoks defeating Jango Fett clones at the Battle of Endor.  C'mon. 
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« Reply #65 on: December 08, 2014, 02:48:51 pm »
...Seriously.  Loved 'em.  The prequels.  Not the originals. The Ewoks defeating Jango Fett clones at the Battle of Endor.  C'mon.

Haha, Yeah, that is as insane as something like an 8 year old defeating an entire robotic invasion army and a armed spacestation using only a small spacecraft he didn't know how to fly.

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« Reply #66 on: December 08, 2014, 03:11:12 pm »
...Seriously.  Loved 'em.  The prequels.  Not the originals. The Ewoks defeating Jango Fett clones at the Battle of Endor.  C'mon.

Haha, Yeah, that is as insane as something like an 8 year old defeating an entire robotic invasion army and a armed spacestation using only a small spacecraft he didn't know how to fly.

Didn't anyone believe in putting up the ships shields?  If I saw a bunch of enemy planes coming at my ship I would inherently put up my shields as a defense.  Someone got fired that day. 

And they completely ruined force run for me in the Phantom Menace.  It was done poorly.  It took me about 35 minutes to realize they were trying to show force powers.  Pure drabble.

And why wasn't the story written to show Palpatine influencing Anakin more?  It was just like 'BOOM!'.  And Anakin was like 'Oh.  I'm evil now.  Time to go kill some kids.'  God dammit these new movies better not suck.

If they do I'll be all like...


On a side note all the remakes of the new teaser trailer are pretty unique and fun.
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« Reply #68 on: December 08, 2014, 06:56:56 pm »
Fett survived many years after ROTJ, There's quite a good chance that he'd be alive during this trilogy. I wouldn't doubt you'll see him at some point as he's a massive fan favourite.

The entire "expanded universe" was RETCON'D by Lucasfilm / Disney. 

So..  no, Boba Fett did not survive ROTJ.   :)
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« Reply #70 on: December 08, 2014, 09:23:50 pm »
I'm surprised these haven't been posted yet   ;D









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« Reply #71 on: December 09, 2014, 10:10:19 am »
You wanna see millions of devote fans rage quit a franchise because the fate is reversed on one of the top 3 bad ass characters in said franchise?

The devote fans (fanboys) will watch whatever comes out.  Jar Jar is proof of that enough.    And the super weak backstory of Boba Fett (the most bad ass bounty hunter in the galaxy is a clone?  and his father figure got punked by a Jedi in like 10 seconds of screen time?  Really?)

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« Reply #72 on: December 09, 2014, 04:43:12 pm »
You wanna see millions of devote fans rage quit a franchise because the fate is reversed on one of the top 3 bad ass characters in said franchise?

The devote fans (fanboys) will watch whatever comes out.  Jar Jar is proof of that enough.    And the super weak backstory of Boba Fett (the most bad ass bounty hunter in the galaxy is a clone?  and his father figure got punked by a Jedi in like 10 seconds of screen time?  Really?)

Well he cant be the most badass bounty hunter in the universe because thats deadpools role  :afro:
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