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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2014, 11:49:01 pm »
If they give the bad ass guy more than five minutes of actual film time and a fight that lasts longer than four that doesn't end up with him/her dead it should all be good.

Bonus points if they actually introduce him/her in the first ten minutes of the film, kill someone in the next ten then go on to create absolute mayhem throughout the rest of the film.

I'll have the producers child if they never, ever, introduce another character like Jar Jar.

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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2014, 12:12:03 am »
I was holding out reserved hope that the new Star Wars films couldn't be any worse than the prequels.  But based on the teaser, I think I'd rather watch the one made with legos.

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I realize they are just catering to the fanboys, but after the double-bladed Darth Maul saber in Episode I, it's just gotten stupid.  I'd love to see an entire Star Wars movie with no lightsabers.  That would be a revelation.
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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2014, 01:08:14 am »
I was holding out reserved hope that the new Star Wars films couldn't be any worse than the prequels.  But based on the teaser, I think I'd rather watch the one made with legos.

True, the Lego version is pretty faithful with the matte boxes around the ships.

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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2014, 05:23:59 pm »
I dunno, custom lightsabers always made sense to me. Since a jedi is suppose to build their own, why would they all be identical weapons? Of course, that one does seem a bit weird. A weeble wobble R2 unit is kinda odd, too.

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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2014, 05:25:34 pm »
I dunno, custom lightsabers always made sense to me. Since a jedi is suppose to build their own, why would they all be identical weapons? Of course, that one does seem a bit weird. A weeble wobble R2 unit is kinda odd, too.

It looks too "wavy" to be a real lightsaber. Maybe it's a custom job, done by Shady Lee.  :dunno
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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2014, 05:35:25 pm »
 :duckhunt Would explain why the release date is still a year away. It takes time to ship custom work over from China.

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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2014, 12:51:05 am »
I dunno, custom lightsabers always made sense to me. Since a jedi is suppose to build their own, why would they all be identical weapons? Of course, that one does seem a bit weird. A weeble wobble R2 unit is kinda odd, too.

It looks too "wavy" to be a real lightsaber. Maybe it's a custom job, done by Shady Lee.  :dunno

It would makes sense, especially if someone uses castaway parts or doesn't have a full understanding of the inner workings of their um... light saber. A power source that isn't clean enough for example.

In fact, it looks exactly like the kind of overkill that would be typical of someone who really doesn't understand their saber. Kind of like how we get a number of first timers who come on this board and attempt to plan (or worse build) a CP that has to have every ---goshdarn--- button under the sun, eg CrapMAME #10. The crossguards on this one look like they're not quite powered up. Like they're not quite fully powered up after the main blade goes up. Like a dim bulb or something.

Personally, I think a hoop, like a Spanish sword, would be far more cooler.

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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2014, 05:17:47 am »
The guy with the cloak on is Luke Skywalker who has turned to the dark side. He is the protagonist throughout the film.  :yawn
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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2014, 07:46:28 am »
^Makes no sense.

Protagonist = good guy
Antagonist = bad guy

If the above is correct wouldn't he be the antagonist?

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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2014, 10:02:49 am »
In this movie you cheer for the dark side. The good side of the force is nothing but a bully, hunting down that poor sith lumberjack who is just trying to cut down firewood. :yawn

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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2014, 06:45:06 pm »
I dunno, custom lightsabers always made sense to me. Since a jedi is suppose to build their own, why would they all be identical weapons? Of course, that one does seem a bit weird.

Yeah, but when they do stuff like this it's not about the mythos and more about "how can we sell more action figures and T-shirts"?

That was what I always hated about Darth Maul.  He was simply created to look "cool" and perform a flashy fight; no dept to the character whatsoever.

I'm already worried we'll get the same shite again...

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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2014, 07:35:51 pm »
Yeah I really hope justice is done to the franchise.  And Abrams doesnt carry on ten years from now about how the reason he did Star Wars so that he could have the money to fund his own pet project.

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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2014, 07:22:56 am »
Thankfully george lucas got to remake the teaser as it SHOULD have been...

its better to not post and be thought a fool, then to whip out your keyboard and remove all doubt...

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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2014, 07:52:15 am »
Thankfully george lucas got to remake the teaser as it SHOULD have been...



That was amusing.  The Spaceballs one could have been a lot better. 

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« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2014, 07:55:27 am »
Thankfully george lucas got to remake the teaser as it SHOULD have been...



That was awesome.  I lost it at the lightsaber bit.  :lol

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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2014, 07:56:38 am »
I don't know, I think he'll do ok, better then the prequel trilogy.

The sad thing is the bar has been set so low, even Uwe Boll could probably do better.

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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2014, 11:00:51 am »

I have hope for the new trilogy and this is why, believe it or not Disney.  I think Star Wars did so well originally because it is modern mythology.  All good mythology follows certain rules and forms throughout pretty much every culture in every time.  There are certain concepts we as humans seem hardwired to.  Lucas had his college mythology professor as an adviser on the originals.  He was consciously crafting mythology.  He forgot that on the prequels and was too wrapped up in how he finally had the tech and budget to make the movies LOOK the way he always envisioned them but forgot about the story (and the fact that he can't direct).

Disney on the other hand has been cranking out modern mythology very successfully for decades now.  If anyone can get it back to that feel I think they can.  I'm not a huge fan of Disney, but they know what they are doing.

As for the crossguard sabre...I'm not a huge fan, if they wanted to do it the energy should at least meet so the quillon isn't just sliced off.

Here is my favorite take on the sabre.

PS I think it is Luke too

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« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2014, 11:30:19 am »
I thought the whole stoyline after the trilogy was Luke turned evil in Jedi at the moment the emperor goaded him into taking a swing at him.  Han and Leia get married and have twins and they're packed full of the force and then Luke gets good again at the end. 

I heard that scenario at least 10,000 times in the 90s. 

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« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2014, 12:48:06 pm »
I thought the whole stoyline after the trilogy was Luke turned evil in Jedi at the moment the emperor goaded him into taking a swing at him.  Han and Leia get married and have twins and they're packed full of the force and then Luke gets good again at the end. 

I heard that scenario at least 10,000 times in the 90s. 

 :dunno

That's the Timothy Zahn telling isn't it?  Takes Luke a few books to turn totally evil but IIRC there is a sweet scene in one where he lays the lightsaber on the ground, goes and hides, then uses the force to spin the lightsaber like a buzzsaw and fly it around a building chopping everyone in half. 

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« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2014, 01:27:21 pm »
I could not for the life of me get into the Thrawn Trilogy.  I tried multiple times to read it.  I even tried it on audiobook but I just couldn't do it. 

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« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2014, 01:29:06 pm »
I could not for the life of me get into the Thrawn Trilogy.  I tried multiple times to read it.  I even tried it on audiobook but I just couldn't do it.

I enjoyed them, but I knew there was no chance they would get used for the movie.

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« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2014, 01:59:14 pm »
Whoever made that recreation did a great job!  Seems the topic of this new trailer is the "great sword" lightsaber.  Any thoughts on this lightsaber? I have heard some people say it ruined their childhood, and even Stephen Colbert did a special on his show explaining how this saber hand guard was possible.  It is worth the quick watch, could add some laughter in your day!

http://www.cnet.com/news/stephen-colbert-finds-your-lightsaber-hate-disturbing/

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« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2014, 02:55:09 pm »
Last boner I ever got over Star Wars was when the Xbox hit $150 and Knights of the Old Republic came out.  I thought setting it in the same universe but way in the past was a nice cop out to play around in the universe but avoid mentioning movie characters.  Really enjoyed that game, though I didn't realize there was a level cap and had to use a trainer to beat the last boss - I had frittered away those midicholorians on stupid skills.  Some fun glitches to be had, damn near had a heart attack when that galaxy droid showed up and I thought my save game was ruined.

Prequel movies were dumb as hell because you already knew everyone was going to survive. 

Wikipedia concurs that I'm thinking of the Zahn books.  Never seen those but the storyline certainly made the rounds.



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« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2014, 02:56:45 pm »
I love those people who scream that their childhood was ruined.  They have to realize that the canon has far reached the original trilogy.  Books, games, and comics were all, I can assume, referenced for the new movies.  Wookieepedia even makes reference to the 'crosssaber' in the main lightsaber article.  It seems that it has made an appearance in three different places of the Star Wars canon.  That is what people need to realize.  In the Star Wars universe there is no set standards for lightsaber building.  It is to the discretion of the wielder.  Making each lightsaber as unique as its master.

And I also find it funny that people are up in arms about a black storm trooper.  We have no idea why he is in the suit.  For all we know he could have been in disguise.  And, some of the more knowledgeable fan boi's can correct me, but I believe I read some where that with the dwindling numbers of Clone troopers being lost due to war the Empire started to recruit young men for employment.  As yes.  Here:

       "By the time the Galactic Civil War began in earnest, Jango Fett's clones were heavily supplanted by clones based on a variety of templates around 9     BBY,[13] followed shortly after by enlisted Humans.[19] Thus, the Fett clones were ironically reduced to a minority status after years of virtually filling the stormtrooper ranks in its entirety. According to a stormtrooper's entry log in the 501st Journal, none of the Fett clones were ever truly able to come to terms with serving alongside recruits and different clones, all of whom were disdainfully dubbed as the "new guys."[13] Commander Cody, a first generation clone of Jango Fett and a veteran of the Clone Wars, found stormtrooper recruits to be absolutely intolerable. Due to the significant decrease in the Imperial Military's operational effectiveness and his own feelings of nostalgia over the Republic's "army of one man," Cody viewed enlisted troopers as incompetent idiots, all of whom he would have gladly sacrificed for just one real clone trooper.[19]
Despite the influx of new troopers from various sources, the ranks remained dominated by Human males, thus reflecting the New Order's Human High Culture. By 0 BBY, roughly one-third of the stormtroopers were clones based on the Fett template, while recruits steadily became the majority within the Stormtrooper Corps.[20] Service in the Stormtrooper Corps was open to both Human men and women, but female stormtroopers were an extremely rare sight under Palpatine's reign and on average there were never more than three female stormtroopers within a whole legion.[1].[21] In spite of this disparity, some female troopers served in elite units, such as the Coruscant Guard.[22]"

And I don't know why everyone is getting so crazy over this guy.  The same thing happened in Return of the Jedi.  Vader was in a black suit and voiced by James Earl Jones (a black actor).  Then by the end of Jedi he has his mask removed and he's a 'crusty old white man.'  And to leave you with some final thoughts here is an excerpt from Chasing Amy.



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« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2014, 03:02:19 pm »
People actually noticed and cared about a black storm trooper? 

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« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2014, 03:07:50 pm »
People actually noticed and cared about a black storm trooper? 

 :dizzy:

Probably didn't see it over all the crying about the lightsaber...

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« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2014, 03:14:12 pm »
Well, I went and looked up the 'controversy.'  Sounds like something invented my media personalities so they can get paid to talk about it.


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« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2014, 03:14:51 pm »
I thought the whole stoyline after the trilogy was Luke turned evil in Jedi at the moment the emperor goaded him into taking a swing at him. 
 :dunno

I've read almost all the books but my memory is hazy so bear with me.  From what I recall there was a comic book series from Dark Horse where Luke went to the Dark Side but came back.  In the novels (including the Zahn books) I don't recall him ever becoming evil.  The main point of those books was Luke trying to rebuild the Jedi Order without knowing how to do it.   The Empire destroyed all records of the Jedi so he really had no blueprint to go by.   He also realizes that Yoda and Ben basically trained him as a one-time-use weapon pointed at the Emporer. This stuff was all fleshed out in the books before EP1 came out and gave us Padawans and Medichlorians.

And I also find it funny that people are up in arms about a black storm trooper.  We have no idea why he is in the suit.  For all we know he could have been in disguise.

I've not paid any attention to the "uproar" over a black storm trooper.  For what it is worth I assumed he was a hero in disguise.    In the books they make a point that the Emperor hated aliens which is why in the movies their army was only made up of humans.  Maybe some overzealous fanboys assume that meant they were rascist as well? :dunno

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« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2014, 03:16:54 pm »
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Well said, jdbailey1206. Well said.  :cheers:
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« Reply #33 on: December 03, 2014, 03:45:02 pm »
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Well said, jdbailey1206. Well said.  :cheers:

Don't ever misquote me again Yots.   :hissy   ;D

And I also find it funny that people are up in arms about a black storm trooper.  We have no idea why he is in the suit.  For all we know he could have been in disguise.

I've not paid any attention to the "uproar" over a black storm trooper.  For what it is worth I assumed he was a hero in disguise.    In the books they make a point that the Emperor hated aliens which is why in the movies their army was only made up of humans.  Maybe some overzealous fanboys assume that meant they were rascist as well? :dunno

I also read somewhere that Palpetine only wanted human males as commanders because they were the only ones to be trusted.  Feeding more fire to the belief that Star Wars is just a retelling of WW2 which Lucas vehemently denies.

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« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2014, 03:50:18 pm »
...Stuff...

Well said, jdbailey1206. Well said.  :cheers:

I agree, well said.

It's been a few years since I've read the Thrawn trilogy and I only read about 5 or 6 books after those three (the novel expanded universe is huge now).  I don't recall Luke going evil but one of Leia's kid's Jacen falls to the Dark Side. 

But it has been widely stated that the expanded universe is officially thrown out...so who knows.

My one buddy is waiting for the Lightsabre Axe....that would have set the internet into quite the uproar....

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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #35 on: December 03, 2014, 03:59:43 pm »

But it has been widely stated that the expanded universe is officially thrown out...so who knows.


Exactly.  Nothing in the comics, books, video games and cartoons is considered canon anymore. It might as well be fan fiction at this point.

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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #36 on: December 03, 2014, 04:02:25 pm »

But it has been widely stated that the expanded universe is officially thrown out...so who knows.


Exactly.  Nothing in the comics, books, video games and cartoons is considered canon anymore. It might as well be fan fiction at this point.

Vader has almost become a representation for the Star Wars universe.  It used to resemble something but now it is pieced together by non organic parts to make it survive.  Not live.

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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #37 on: December 03, 2014, 04:16:03 pm »
People actually noticed and cared about a black storm trooper? 

 :dizzy:

Not only noticed, but all had the same reaction: "We ain't found ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- !"



EDIT: sidenote: Mel Brooks hired George Lucas' company to do work on Spaceballs as a way to get him to go along with allowing the parody.
                        The one thing Lucas insisted on is that there was to be no Spaceballs related merchandising.

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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2014, 05:21:11 pm »
                        The one thing Lucas insisted on is that there was to be no Spaceballs related merchandising.

Speak for yourself.



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Re: LEGO Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2014, 05:28:48 pm »
...Stuff...

Well said, jdbailey1206. Well said.  :cheers:

Don't ever misquote me again Yots.   :hissy   ;D


I condensed that in order to avoid dkenstenian Walls O' Text. I hereby retract my well said and instead offer this:

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