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Which logo do you prefer for the final artwork? (see page 32)

I like the original (ver. 1)
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Re: Mission Control Project - Now with super fun interactive poll: NEW LOGO
« Reply #1280 on: August 20, 2009, 07:54:03 pm »
I second Benders post you definitely should make the white lines light blue and go in different patterns based on whether the systems in game mode or attract mode and so on.

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Re: Mission Control Project - Now with super fun interactive poll: NEW LOGO
« Reply #1281 on: August 29, 2009, 11:52:09 pm »
Thanks for all the feedback.

This has been tremendously helpful. I had really expected opinions to be divided between the two designs, with those familiar with the project preferring the original and those new to the project preferring version 2. The clear preference for the original design helps me stop second guessing myself. It's also been interesting for me to hear why people prefer #1, since a number people pointed out aspects of the design that had mean leaning toward it as well, particularly that it has a feel that better matches the feel of the cabinet. While I still feel the new marquees has a *better* designed logotype, but that really means nothing if it fails to convey the right feeling about the cab.

Regarding the black and white dashes. I'm not sure how these are coming across to most people, they were intended to feel like a map or navigational design element, much like the dashed lines you would see on a map indicating the equator or scale lines in the map key. I've also seen it used around the edge of a map as a border, maybe to more easily count longitude and latitude? Anyhow, that was the idea. They also serve to anchor the otherwise busy logo against the background. After trying a number of different options, this felt the cleanest. I definitely understand the "cut here" comments. My unwillingness to see anything other than catoony space cartography of the future however has me satisfied with how they stand  ;D Point taken  though, and I did align the dates with the white dashes to hopefully tie the navigational concept in a bit more clearly. Oh, and I fixed the goofy spacing on the trackball border.. thanks, I missed that!
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Re: Mission Control Project - Now with super fun interactive poll: NEW LOGO
« Reply #1282 on: August 30, 2009, 07:53:03 pm »
how about something like this, to me it feels a little more like a map boarder than a "cut here" line


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Re: Mission Control Project - Construction photos - sides 70% complete
« Reply #1283 on: October 24, 2009, 09:41:11 am »
It's not to invalidate other kinds of projects, it's just that my goals and interest in doing this are different. My next cabinet will likely be black laminate with chrome t-moulding as my interest in that project is different as well.

When will the next project be started? before or after the current one finishes? and if so when can we expect renders?

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Re: Mission Control Project - Now with super fun interactive poll: NEW LOGO
« Reply #1284 on: October 25, 2009, 03:53:49 pm »
Ahhhh, the black laminate post of 2005. Good times. Shortly after though, that got superceded by the Boomerang post of 2006 and my interest in the next project moved from chrome t molding and black laminate to maple and car paint. Three years later I'm still inching forward on the original project and am already thinking the next project may not be  a cab at all after seeing Ben Heck's hand held 2600 and ColecoVision projects.

So to answer your question in order I'd say: Who knows. After. And, long before I actually start.  ;) :timebomb:
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Re: Mission Control Project - Now with super fun interactive poll: NEW LOGO
« Reply #1285 on: October 26, 2009, 09:15:44 am »


  Pixel, would it be fair to say this build has become the "Chinese Democracy" of arcade projects?!  Heheh, then again, that album did finally come out.   Ok, let's not all pile on now....Oh, hey, I still have to get that artwork from you.

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Re: Mission Control Project - Now with super fun interactive poll: NEW LOGO
« Reply #1286 on: October 26, 2009, 02:10:01 pm »
Pixel....let me just say...i hate you...with a passion...lol...i just blew something like 2 or 2.5 hours rummaging through posts...i can honestly say i don't think i will ever be able to work with wood as you have...it's truly beautiful to watch (albeit painfully slow)....

that being said, i was hoping you might shed some light on a few things for me...

i have been investigating CPs for awhile trying to figure out what controls i will ultimately use...you are using the same controls i am going for, i.e., 4-way, two 8-ways, 6 buttons (i'll have 7) and a trackball and spinner....i like the overall layout of your CP....

do you have a file with the dimensions and placement so i could try out your layout and work from it....i am really struggling with dimensions and i think it might help give me a good base....

again...great job...and just fyi...i am going to "borrow" some of your styling cues on the art and your admin panel ;)

thanks and again....great job!
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Re: Mission Control Project - Now with super fun interactive poll: NEW LOGO
« Reply #1287 on: October 27, 2009, 04:22:47 pm »
Hi Pixel,
I new to posting on the boards but have been haunting for a while. If you ever decide to build this cab, let me know and I will cut those side details in aluminum for you. Wont be a problem for the equipment we have in the shop. I will post some picts of projects soon.
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« Reply #1288 on: October 27, 2009, 05:15:49 pm »
Hey Knave, thanks for the offer, I really appreciate that. The side art has actually been cut already, though. I may take you up on your offer for another part of the cab depending on final plans for details on the back door.  :)

Do you work at a sign shop? I'm so jealous of all these people with machine shop access!
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« Reply #1289 on: October 27, 2009, 05:27:27 pm »
i just blew something like 2 or 2.5 hours rummaging through posts
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Same thing happens to me in this thread. I get lost whenever I need to go back to find something.

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i can honestly say i don't think i will ever be able to work with wood as you have...it's truly beautiful to watch


Have you checked out OND's  and FrancoB's work? Just stunning.


A PDF of the CP layout (without artwork) is attached.
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« Reply #1290 on: October 27, 2009, 08:22:55 pm »
Actually I own a waterjet cutting service and we also do laser engraving. So yeah we have some very cool toys to play with. I hate to admit it, but it makes creating router jigs and any of the metal parts so much easier. Just wait till you see the game list and instructions for my cabaret. It was once a Centipede, but some one long before i got it turned it into a fighter. Just about ruined it as far as im concerned. Its only sort of patched together. It looks better from the front....not so good from the back. I love the look of the Mission Control Project. I had not considered the theme cabinets before. It makes for some wonderful ideas though.
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« Reply #1291 on: October 28, 2009, 10:37:21 am »
Have you checked out OND's  and FrancoB's work? Just stunning.

Dude, as flattered as I am, I don't think I'm in your's and ond's league!

Anywho, its nice to see some 'progress' on this. :)

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« Reply #1292 on: October 29, 2009, 01:27:08 pm »
How can you say that with a straight face?
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« Reply #1293 on: February 12, 2010, 02:53:28 pm »
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« Reply #1294 on: February 12, 2010, 02:57:55 pm »
Oh holy crap....  don't tease me...  let's get some pics...   :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

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« Reply #1295 on: February 12, 2010, 03:11:23 pm »
Oh holy crap....  don't tease me...  let's get some pics...   :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

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« Reply #1297 on: February 12, 2010, 04:30:35 pm »
 :lol

I cant believe its been over 6 years since this project started lol..

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« Reply #1298 on: February 12, 2010, 04:44:03 pm »
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I cant believe its been over 6 years since this project started lol..

6 years, 3 months...but who is keeping track? Oh wait...we are :)

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« Reply #1299 on: February 18, 2010, 09:46:13 pm »
Apparently we ARE going to wait for an update.....
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« Reply #1300 on: February 19, 2010, 07:04:33 am »
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« Reply #1301 on: February 19, 2010, 08:16:38 am »
Maybe he's waiting for his yoke to show up  :D

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« Reply #1302 on: February 19, 2010, 08:36:56 am »
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« Reply #1303 on: February 19, 2010, 09:53:13 am »
Maybe... just maybe... he has actually finished it... :-\


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« Reply #1304 on: February 19, 2010, 01:07:03 pm »
Maybe he selected the paper that the coffee table book (featuring the cabinet) will be printed on?
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« Reply #1305 on: February 20, 2010, 02:36:54 pm »
@pixelhugger : first i d like 2 say thanks for the hours of godly entertaining and the nice work ure doin on creating this baby . i think some day i ll borrow the design with a few modifications to build a 70 % shrinked kiddystyle sitdown cab , if u dont mind . again : ure doin a wonderful job and take all the time u need , even when people hate u .

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« Reply #1306 on: February 22, 2010, 12:42:58 am »
Ya know.....  I think this has been done for a LONG LONG time......  Pixelhugger has just been building dozens of them to sell.  He just wont let anyone know till his stock is full and ready to ship unlike other peeps we know......   :afro:

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« Reply #1307 on: February 22, 2010, 03:11:26 am »
I'm working on a full write up for the last few days of progress (along with the progress made in the months since my last update.) Putting it all together with the associated pictures is going to take more time that I have right now, but since I'm determined to post by my self imposed deadline of 2/22… here is a preview pic of Saturday night's dry fit before Sunday's glue up. None of the plywood structures will be visible in the final cabinet. (None of the final front structure is seen here.) All plywood "shelves" are 3/4" cabinet grade, dadoed 7/16" into the sides. There are a total of 17 structural dadoes in the final glue up of the project, 6 of which are angled into the sides at 2 degrees and 7 of which intersect for alignment and strength. There are an additional 11 cosmetic/non structural dadoes (mortises?) for the marquee box, marquee plastic, minimarquee, bezel and navpanel to be mounted into the sides. So that's 28 dadoes total, each cut in two passes to ensure a tight fit for the plywood. The gap you see at the top where the marquee will go is due to the side panel not being fully seated before the picture was taken. In the final assembly there were no gaps or misalignments. WOOT! Much, much more to come when I can get the update together.

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« Reply #1308 on: February 22, 2010, 03:18:30 am »
T-moldless curved side edges?  :o  :notworthy:

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« Reply #1309 on: February 22, 2010, 03:27:19 am »
2" thick solid cherry. 1.5" after surfacing and sanding. :afro: Also, radiused across the full edge (not bullnosed on either side of the edge). It's the same treatment given to chair arms on some fine furniture. Makes it irresistably grabbable like other curvy round things.

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Not seen in these pics is the "glow" the curve gets when light hits it. The close up of the top pic makes the edge look rough, but it's really smooth "in person"
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« Reply #1310 on: February 22, 2010, 03:36:37 am »
mmmmm curvy round things....I love the smell of cherry wood in the morning!  Those timber edge are going to look beautiful finished.  Good to see you making stuff again.   :cheers:

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« Reply #1311 on: February 22, 2010, 03:43:00 am »
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Good to see you making stuff again.

Thanks man! Means a lot coming from a builder like you. I've been going solid since Thursday. Even took Friday off to prepare for the glue up on Sunday. Record progress for the cabinet.
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« Reply #1312 on: February 22, 2010, 03:53:37 am »
Those edges required so much sanding I was afraid I'd change the shape of the radius (I had a bit of chipping while routing some of the end grain, especially at the top of the cabinet.) So I made a custom sanding block to help keep the profile consistent. The radius was definitely a PITA to work with, but worth it in the end.

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« Reply #1313 on: February 22, 2010, 04:02:15 am »
Wow, that is sick!  :applaud:

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« Reply #1314 on: February 22, 2010, 05:58:55 pm »
Congrats man. I was hoping it wasn't going to die. As well my boy is only 4 years old and I was going to ask him to build me one when he gets into high school woodshop.

I guess I'll have to scrap the idea of him building me one since your back on it. ;)

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« Reply #1315 on: February 22, 2010, 08:12:45 pm »




Hmm . . . something about this picture makes me think that starting and then not finishing projects might be a chronic thing for you.   :cheers: 
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« Reply #1316 on: February 22, 2010, 09:44:41 pm »
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« Reply #1317 on: February 22, 2010, 11:26:54 pm »
Thanks Dave.  :) Y'know around here, most don't even have drywall.
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« Reply #1318 on: February 23, 2010, 09:42:45 pm »
Cripes! are you still working on this thing??  :laugh2:

You do realize this one will have to go in a museum, then you'll need to start all over again.

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« Reply #1319 on: March 01, 2010, 05:03:07 pm »


So here's a quick rundown of the progress I've been making over the last months. I've felt that most of this hasn't warranted posting on it's own, so I've waited until I'm ready to make more interesting progress to post this stuff.

Previously on Mission Control:

Back in July, yes that July… almost a year ago..... the changing humidity had wreaked havoc with the moisture content of the cherry and hairline cracks appeared in the ends of the sides. I was nervous that cutting dados and gluing up with the dimensional changes in the wood during the warm weather would be dangerous... risking misalignment or even further cracking when forcing the wood under clamping pressure. These cracks have since sealed back up with the cooler weather and I'm comfortable moving forward with the glue up of the cabinet and sealing of the sides. So to catch up with everything since my last update here's what's been done:


Complete rebuild of the walnut "marquee box" panels to make them as thick as the sides and to cut an angled channel for the plastic marquee so it fits with less of a gap at the top.

Sanding the faces of the sides.

Rounding off the cabinets edges with a single radius (as seen above)

Sanding the edges of the sides This required a specially shaped sanding block to match the profile of the edges (as seen above)

Squaring up and angling of all the interior "shelves" of the cabinet that'll hold the thing together. These can be seen in the glue up pics that follow. A discussion of the process involved in squaring and cutting these sheets is here.

Creation of the various arcs that will give the top and back of the cabinet it's curved shape. These will get ribs connecting them between the sides and then get covered with curved sheets of poplar before laminating them with cherry to match the rest of the cabinet. Epyx has already done something very similar on his project.





Because the sides of the cabinet are angled downward (wider opening at the top than bottom). I had to make a jig to cut any horizontal dados at the proper angle.  Here's a breakdown of the design and creation of the angled router jig  (For simplicity's sake, but mostly because it's so much fun to say out loud, this jig will subsequently be referred to by the military style acronymn R-BAAD (router baseplate assembly for angled dados.) Unless somebody can come up with something better ;)

To create the jig I drew out the router in Illustrator at full scale against the side panel. This gave me the measurement for how high the "cleat" holding the router at an angle would have to be.



I then cut a piece of wood to this height with the proper angle to glue onto the jig's base. Basically I had to cut a piece of 3/4" pine leaving the bottom 1/32" narrower than the top. Shocking that Mr. Crappy the "table" saw could manage that tolerance. I did have to buy a fancy billion tooth Freud blade to help.






I bolted this onto a rigid piece of 3/8" plexi and attached it to the bottom of the router.










Next I tested all the angled dado cuts in two pieces of 2" thick pine for each side at the full scale of the cabinet and assembled the shelves into it as though they were the finished sides. They fit nice and flush with the "cabinet" at its proper width top and bottom, which confirmed the jig angle was correct. It was also really easy to control the router with the jig on. That had really concerned me until testing.










All these crazy measurements were getting incredibly time consuming so I picked up a pair of digital calipers to make repeated measurements super easy. They also made staying to 1/64" simple. Measuring to those tolerances with the yardstick SUCKED.



VERSUS





Next I had to cut all the dados and mortises in the sides of the cabinet. First I traced the marquee box's profile onto a piece of MDF to make a template for cutting the marquee's shape and ensuring that the radiused wood fit snugly with no gapping and that the angled marquee plastic had a matching slot to fit snugly into. I cut the template shape into the cherry side and cleaned up the corners with a rasp.













The marquee box is seen here dadoed/mortised into the sides at 1/2" deep. Pretty clean joint especially considering it intersects at a compound angle with the plastic. I didn't want any butt joints or anything surface mounted. I was pretty sure that with the angle of the sides, anything on the surface would leave obvious gaps.







I'll post a video of the dadoing process for the structural panels and a time lapse of the glue up since it's just so much fun to watch.

Lots more coming. Dados, speaker grille assembly, and glue up need to be posted. I'm so behind on posts it's tedious catching up.
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