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Author Topic: Terminator: Sarah Conner Chronicles * SPOILER WARNING!*.  (Read 41925 times)

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Re: Terminator: Sarah Conner Chronicles * SPOILER WARNING!*.
« Reply #200 on: May 06, 2009, 11:38:51 am »
Clearly they are just making this ---Cleveland steamer--- up as they go.
Oh, so they are using the same writers that they had on Battlestar...

I dont watch that show so I dont know what that comment means. 

I was actually referring to the movie's continuity as compared to the TV show/T3.

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Re: Terminator: Sarah Conner Chronicles * SPOILER WARNING!*.
« Reply #201 on: May 06, 2009, 11:51:26 am »
They also had some shows in the series where it seemed like they were just pulling it out of their ass.

I got your point.   :)

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Re: Terminator: Sarah Conner Chronicles * SPOILER WARNING!*.
« Reply #202 on: May 13, 2009, 05:17:35 pm »
Still not certain if the chronicles will be back or not:

http://tv.msn.com/fate-of-your-fave-show/photo-gallery/feature/?photoidx=10

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Re: Terminator: Sarah Conner Chronicles * SPOILER WARNING!*.
« Reply #203 on: May 18, 2009, 01:25:51 pm »
Still not certain if the chronicles will be back or not:

http://tv.msn.com/fate-of-your-fave-show/photo-gallery/feature/?photoidx=10

It was cancelled toady. Makes no sense to me. The new Terminator movie is coming out this weekend which should help boost interest.

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Re: Terminator: Sarah Conner Chronicles * SPOILER WARNING!*.
« Reply #204 on: May 18, 2009, 01:30:36 pm »
Still not certain if the chronicles will be back or not:

http://tv.msn.com/fate-of-your-fave-show/photo-gallery/feature/?photoidx=10

It was cancelled toady. Makes no sense to me. The new Terminator movie is coming out this weekend which should help boost interest.


Damn, first his show is cancelled, then mountain calls him toady.  No sympathy here!

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Re: Terminator: Sarah Conner Chronicles * SPOILER WARNING!*.
« Reply #205 on: May 18, 2009, 01:37:13 pm »
It sucks, but isn't entirely surprising. I fully blame the writers, who put out a string of about 6 episodes that sucked badly, and killed all of the show's momentum and casual fanbase. I cannot fault Fox for not supporting this show. They plastered the airwaves with advertisements, tied in the adverts with NFL games, etc, etc, etc. Fox could have canceled the show half-way thru the season quite easily. Instead, they granted the show a 2nd half pickup to finish the season.

The Friday move did kill the show, but Fox didn't really have a choice. It was really the only night of the week it could face weaker competition from the other networks. A friend of mine told me he didn't get to watch the last string of good eps due to this move.

Dollhouse was renewed, for a very interesting and unusual reason - the mysterious and unaired 13th episode. They were contractually obligated to make 13 episodes, so Joss Whedon and co. just whipped one together knowing in advance it would not air. They then used this episode as a proof of concept that they could make the show on the cheap.

Terminator went out on a high note, but it was an expensive and production heavy high note. Setting season 3 in a futuristic (expensive production) setting didn't help Terminator's cause.

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Re: Terminator: Sarah Conner Chronicles * SPOILER WARNING!*.
« Reply #206 on: May 18, 2009, 01:57:31 pm »
Still not certain if the chronicles will be back or not:

http://tv.msn.com/fate-of-your-fave-show/photo-gallery/feature/?photoidx=10

It was cancelled toady. Makes no sense to me. The new Terminator movie is coming out this weekend which should help boost interest.

Damn, first his show is cancelled, then mountain calls him toady.  No sympathy here!

DaOld Fart can handle it.

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Re: Terminator: Sarah Conner Chronicles * SPOILER WARNING!*.
« Reply #207 on: May 18, 2009, 02:06:09 pm »
Fox could have canceled the show half-way thru the season quite easily. Instead, they granted the show a 2nd half pickup to finish the season.

Actually I suspect that Fox's indecision might have been part of the problem. I get the impression that the writers wrote a story arc consisting of just 12 episodes, because that's what Fox originally promised them.

Then at the last minute Fox told them there'd actually be 22 episodes. But Fox didn't increase the show’s budget by a corresponding amount and didn't give the writers enough time to properly prepare new storylines.

That's obviously pure speculation on my part, but I just can't think of any other explanation for why the quality of the writing, and the size of each episode's budget varied so much throughout the series. Many of the episodes just didn't fit in with the overall story arc and felt like fillers cobbled together at the last minute, with limited resources.

Anyway, regardless of who's to blame, I'm really really disappointed by the cancellation. I loved the show despite the flaws. There were more than enough moments of brilliance to justify sitting through the odd mediocre episode.
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Re: Terminator: Sarah Conner Chronicles * SPOILER WARNING!*.
« Reply #208 on: May 18, 2009, 02:11:07 pm »
The possible cancellation went so close to the 11th hour, that the carpentry crews on site and were drinking their morning coffee in prep of destroying sets. So yes, it played a small part. The writers had a brainstorming session to choose the scripts they would use, and in what order. All of those 'bad episode' scripts were already written and fully expected to be used. The writing staff fully acknowledged that they thought those episode scripts sucked too - that was in an interview I read at IGN back around the time they were advertising the final 6 episode string.

So take it as you like, but the writers still wrote a significant chunk of crappy episodes and put themselves in that position all on their own. They did not rush any scripts - they were already written.

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Re: Terminator: Sarah Conner Chronicles * SPOILER WARNING!*.
« Reply #209 on: May 18, 2009, 02:26:10 pm »
So take it as you like, but the writers still wrote a significant chunk of crappy episodes and put themselves in that position all on their own. They did not rush any scripts - they were already written.

Maybe. But isn't it common practice to ask the writers to come up with say 18 episodes and then just use the best 12?

If you're suddenly faced with having to produce another 10 episodes in a very short space of time then you've got no choice but to start revisiting previously rejected stories.

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Re: Terminator: Sarah Conner Chronicles * SPOILER WARNING!*.
« Reply #210 on: May 18, 2009, 02:31:53 pm »
From Fox

[Sarah Connor] has completed its run. I think it had a nice little run. It was a good show. It was not an either or [with Dollhouse]. We did see it tailing off a bit [in the ratings]. It had a nice creative core, but, ultimately, we made the bet on Dollhouse, so that's it for [Sarah Connor]... We make no apologies. We gave it a lot of support and some consistent scheduling. We tried and thought it was time to move on.

I am saddened by this decision as it was really getting good.   I do not understand why they did not wait until the stats came in from Terminator Salvation which will probably boost the popularity of the series even more.

Maybe another network can pick it up. :'( :'( :'(

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Re: Terminator: Sarah Conner Chronicles * SPOILER WARNING!*.
« Reply #211 on: May 18, 2009, 03:03:51 pm »
I am saddened by this decision as it was really getting good.   I do not understand why they did not wait until the stats came in from Terminator Salvation which will probably boost the popularity of the series even more.

Maybe another network can pick it up. :'( :'( :'(
Ditto.

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« Reply #212 on: May 18, 2009, 04:31:53 pm »
:: Fingers crossed that Summer Glau gets desperate and does Playboy ::   ;D ;D

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« Reply #213 on: May 18, 2009, 04:43:59 pm »
:: Fingers crossed that Summer Glau gets desperate and does Playboy immediately::   ;D ;D


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« Reply #214 on: May 18, 2009, 04:47:53 pm »
:: Fingers crossed that Summer Glau gets desperate and does Playboy immediately::   ;D ;D


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I nominate her for the next Tomb Raider movie.

If she has a kid, her boobs will get bigger. Playboy would airbrush out any stretch marks too.  :woot

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Re: Terminator: Sarah Conner Chronicles * SPOILER WARNING!*.
« Reply #215 on: May 25, 2009, 09:27:05 pm »
Still not certain if the chronicles will be back or not:

http://tv.msn.com/fate-of-your-fave-show/photo-gallery/feature/?photoidx=10

It was cancelled toady. Makes no sense to me. The new Terminator movie is coming out this weekend which should help boost interest.

Damn, first his show is cancelled, then mountain calls him toady.  No sympathy here!

DaOld Fart can handle it.

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