New Orleans

[Hemi]

This really sucks that they have to deal with another direct hit of a strong hurricane after almost getting their town at least half-way near what it was before. Everyone is getting the hell outta there this time.

Lets wish them well.

[ratzz]

Yep, it does suck.

First thing I did this morning was to switch on the news channel and hoped that it had blown itself out.

Lets just pray they escape the worst of it.

[ChadTower]

Everyone is getting the hell outta there this time.

So last time they tell everyone to chill and ride it out... which was absolutely the wrong move.  This time he tells everyone to "be scared" and that "this is the storm of the century" causing panic, alarm, and inevitable chaos during the evacuation.  Don't the New Orleans officials have any concept at all of how to handle masses of people?  How long before the roads are completely jammed, no one is going anywhere, and fear/road rage takes over in 500 different places?

At least this time the surrounding cities aren't closing roads and bridges to that people can't evacuate.

[Ginsu Victim]

They knew the levees wouldn't hold if anything like Katrina happened, but they never would correct the problem. Look what happened. I hope steps have been taken to fix this. (I also hope this topic doesn't move into PnR territory...)

[gonzo90017]

The levees are only able to withstand a Category 3 hurricane. And it looks like this will be a category 5.

[Ken Layton]

It is just plain stupid to rebuild a town that's under sea level to begin with. That's throwing money away.

[bishmasterb]

It is just plain stupid to rebuild a town that's under sea level to begin with. That's throwing money away.

Quoted for truth. Wouldn't bother me as much if it wasn't my money being used...

Anyhow, here's hoping that the damage to life and property is small.

[Hemi]

Everyone is getting the hell outta there this time.

At least this time the surrounding cities aren't closing roads and bridges to that people can't evacuate.

I bet they would if they could, but then being accused of murder would not sit so well for some people.

[DaOld Man]

I have two sisters in Mobile AL.

I just got an email from one. She said the wind is starting to pick up.
Lets hope and pray that it wont be a repeat of Katrina.

[Zero_Hour]

My Wife is an Officer with the Public Health Service (Indian Health Service  Pharmacist specifically). She was Just deployed to Baton Rouge last night, as were  a very large list of others Medical Professionals in the service. Another contingent of PHS personnel were sent to Jackson MS. When Katrina Hit, it wasn't until days after the storms that deployments occurred, so points for foresight this time around. Of course, I'm hoping that the storm isn't bad, and that her deployment is a short one, and that folks in the region get back to normalcy as quickly as possible.

[Level42]

It is just plain stupid to rebuild a town that's under sea level to begin with. That's throwing money away.

It's not IF you make it safe enough....

In  fact, 40% of my country would be flooded without dikes etc.because these parts are below sea level:


And that's without storms, let alone hurricanes.

Especialy interesting if you see where the most people live here:
(Yes, we live in the deepest red area).

Of course, we had to learn our lesson before acting as well. In 1953 a large part of the south-west was flooded during a storm and cost 1800 people their lives. After that they started the Delta-works to make our _LOW_ country safe (or as safe as possible ?). To give an idea about how much time it took to complete: they just finished a couple of years ago....

I know Dutch engineers were helping in New Orleans with plans to make it safer, but you can't do it in 3 years I guess.


For all people over there I just hope Gustav will be less terrible than it's predicted now. Our thoughts are with all people in the world that got hit by it....

Special thoughts for Bob and his family:
http://homearcade.org/BBBB/index.html

[Blanka]

And what if there's flood. NAP is a very theoretic line. You better draw the line at +5m NAP or something like that. They make fun about Amersfoort aan Zee (at the sea), but a good south-west storm eats Amersfoort as well.

[Singapura]

Anyway, with all this global warming (not to mention the housing crisis) I'm glad I sold my house in Lelystad. That place used to be on the bottom of the IJsselmeer 

[Level42]

Anyway, with all this global warming (not to mention the housing crisis) I'm glad I sold my house in Lelystad. That place used to be on the bottom of the IJsselmeer 

There is no housing crisis over here Singa. Too many people, too few houses. Won't change. Prices keep increasing (although not as fast as they used to be.)

[ChadTower]

In  fact, 40% of my country would be flooded without dikes etc.because these parts are below sea level:

Nobody is going to fund the type of effort it would take to make New Orleans that safe.  Realistically there is no reason to do so other than being stubborn.  There isn't anything of inherent value in that specific plot of land aside from the culture - and that could be relocated.  It doesn't help that much of that area was already some of the poorest urban spots in the entire US.  It's a cold truth that the rest of the country just isn't going to pay billions of dollars to accomplish what was accomplished where you live.  The US is not hurting for space - it's pretty damn big and there are plenty of other places those folks could go without a 30 year feat of engineering.

[Hemi]

It is just plain stupid to rebuild a town that's under sea level to begin with. That's throwing money away.

I really do not want to get into a big thing here, but I find this post to be very offending and in very bad taste.

[somunny]

I really do not want to get into a big thing here.

Are you kidding?  That's all you want to do here.

[Hemi]

That is not the case here if it even was anywhere else.

The people in NO have gone through a lot, and to say that it is stupid to rebuild their homes is a crime because another disaster might happen again.

[Malenko]

That is not the case here if it even was anywhere else.

The people in NO have gone through a lot, and to say that it is stupid to rebuild their homes is a crime because another disaster might happen again.

he didnt say a crime, he said a waste of money.

Do you know the definition of insanity?
"doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results"

[Hemi]

I said it is a crime for him to say that.

The people in NO have gone through a lot, and to say that it is stupid to rebuild their homes because another disaster might happen again is a crime to say.

Edited my quote for easier understanding.

[Samstag]

Realistically there is no reason to do so other than being stubborn.  There isn't anything of inherent value in that specific plot of land aside from the culture - and that could be relocated.

Good luck relocating the third busiest seaport in the world.  That big river that runs nearby will be a major pain to move with it.

[markrvp]

I think it is understandable to question whether spending billions rebuilding a city under sea level BY THE SEA is prudent.

[Singapura]

There is no housing crisis over here Singa. Too many people, too few houses. Won't change. Prices keep increasing (although not as fast as they used to be.)

Just wait my friend, just wait. The government has already decided not to implement the BTW (VAT) raise to curb inflation. Housing prices are still going up but you're at the end of the curve there. Even in Singapore the boom has ended...

There isn't anything of inherent value in that specific plot of land aside from the culture - and that could be relocated

Relocation of culture... now where did I hear that before? Ah, yes it was in a movie called "The Conspiracy". Maybe we should force all New Orleanians to live in Nevada? Plenty of waterless desert there....

[Hemi]

I think it is understandable to question whether spending billions rebuilding a city under sea level BY THE SEA is prudent.

You think it is understandable? I bet you wouldn't think it was understandable if you or your family lived there and lost most of their lives.

[Hemi]

Before I get the "total" axe here, I will bow out of this argument. Far be it for me to support the people of N.O and feel that their homes and community mean something to them and is worth rebuilding.

[Hemi]

Where are all the smart-ass comments now? Am I still insane, Malenko? Is it still understandable, Mark? Come on now, I'm waiting for all the great comments telling me how crazy I am. 

Surly someone will post soon. I will monitor this thread as to not miss a single post.

[ChadTower]

Good luck relocating the third busiest seaport in the world.  That big river that runs nearby will be a major pain to move with it.

Seaports aren't as necessary as they used to be, you know.  You don't need to replace those thousands of flooded out houses given that very few of those residents actually worked in the shipping industry.  It's easy to rebuild a seaport.  It's the massive sprawl of residences that is the problem.

Hemi, enlighten us as to why they can't be who they are 100 miles inland where they aren't in mortal danger every time a hurricane comes in.  Is that specific patch of land more important than the people?  Is that specific patch of land so important that people should die for no other reason than that they don't feel like moving?

[markrvp]

Am I still insane, Malenko?

Yes.

Is it still understandable, Mark?

Yes.

Hemi, enlighten us as to why they can't be who they are 100 miles inland where they aren't in mortal danger every time a hurricane comes in.  Is that specific patch of land more important than the people?  Is that specific patch of land so important that people should die for no other reason than that they don't feel like moving?

Exactly.

[AtomSmasher]

I think it is understandable to question whether spending billions rebuilding a city under sea level BY THE SEA is prudent.

You think it is understandable? I bet you wouldn't think it was understandable if you or your family lived there and lost most of their lives.

I bet I wouldn't want to move back to the place that killed my family when the town will most likely be destroyed again and again.  The best way to honor your families death is to move on with your life, not to put your life in danger for sentimental reasons.

Where are all the smart-ass comments now?

You seem to be making a lot of noise for someone who has bowed out of the argument.  Also, try waiting more then 40 minutes before asking where the replies are, most people here have things going on in real life and don't spend all of their time on this forum.

[Hemi]

This thread had 8 members looking in on it at the time of my bow out comment and they all thought better of it and left without posting.

[Hemi]

Hemi, enlighten us as to why they can't be who they are 100 miles inland where they aren't in mortal danger every time a hurricane comes in.  Is that specific patch of land more important than the people?  Is that specific patch of land so important that people should die for no other reason than that they don't feel like moving?

So, anyone who lives on any south eastern coast is just being silly since they know that a hurricane could potentially hit them at any time and if an when that happens they should just abandom their hometown and forget about anything that ever went on in that town? I guess you should not live in a city where other people live when one of them could have a gun and could possibly blow your brains out when you could have easily moved out into the forest where no other people exist.

[AtomSmasher]

This thread had 8 members looking in on it at the time of my bow out comment and they all thought better of it and left without posting.

And those 8 members obviously contained all of the people who previously posted in this thread  

Welcome to the internet.  Of the many members who will read this thread, a very small percentage of them will actually make a post.

[Ginsu Victim]

Hemi, enlighten us as to why they can't be who they are 100 miles inland where they aren't in mortal danger every time a hurricane comes in.  Is that specific patch of land more important than the people?  Is that specific patch of land so important that people should die for no other reason than that they don't feel like moving?

So, anyone who lives on any south eastern coast is just being silly since they know that a hurricane could potentially hit them at any time and if an when that happens they should just abandom their hometown and forget about anything that ever went on in that town? I guess you should not live in a city where other people live when one of them could have a gun and could possibly blow your brains out when you could have easily moved out into the forest where no other people exist.

But not everyone you're talking about is living in a ---smurfing--- bowl, waiting to be drowned over and over again. The term "gluttons for punishment" comes to mind.

[Ginsu Victim]

This thread had 8 members looking in on it at the time of my bow out comment and they all thought better of it and left without posting.

And those 8 members obviously contained all of the people who previously posted in this thread 

Welcome to the internet.  Of the many members who will read this thread, a very small percentage of them will actually make a post.

Agreed. I was a lurker here for MANY years before finally making a single post.

[Hemi]

Hemi, enlighten us as to why they can't be who they are 100 miles inland where they aren't in mortal danger every time a hurricane comes in.  Is that specific patch of land more important than the people?  Is that specific patch of land so important that people should die for no other reason than that they don't feel like moving?

So, anyone who lives on any south eastern coast is just being silly since they know that a hurricane could potentially hit them at any time and if an when that happens they should just abandom their hometown and forget about anything that ever went on in that town? I guess you should not live in a city where other people live when one of them could have a gun and could possibly blow your brains out when you could have easily moved out into the forest where no other people exist.

But not everyone you're talking about is living in a ---smurfing--- bowl, waiting to be drowned over and over again. The term "gluttons for punishment" comes to mind.

I can see your point, but the difference is negligible.

[markrvp]

So, anyone who lives on any south eastern coast is just being silly since they know that a hurricane could potentially hit them at any time and if an when that happens they should just abandom their hometown and forget about anything that ever went on in that town? I guess you should not live in a city where other people live when one of them could have a gun and could possibly blow your brains out when you could have easily moved out into the forest where no other people exist.

We are not talking about "anywhere on the south eastern coast."  We are specifically talking about New Orleans.   Pass Christian, Biloxi, Gulf Port, etc. are not below sea level.  They don't require a multi-billion dollar levy system upgrade at tax-payer expense every time a category 3 or higher hurricane hits.

My mother-in-law lost everything in Katrina.  She was at ground zero in Pass Christian, MS.  Guess what... she doesn't live there any more.  Worth noting is the fact that she was smart enough to evacuate two days before the storm hit, unlike the thousands who chose to stay in the "fish bowl" during Katrina when they were told a hurricane was coming.

[DaOld Man]

We can all breathe a sigh of relief now. Gustav is on its way to higher grounds.
Missed new Orleans pretty much.
But wait...
There's two more coming!

[Level42]

Am I the only one who thinks it's funny that a country that spends hundreds of billions of dollars on a pointless war cannot have the money/will to protect NO properly ?

It would be funny, if it weren't so sad....

O, and here's another thought: What is cheaper in the long run: repairing all the damages again and again or investing in safety to prevent the damages to happen again ?

By the way, there seems to have been a start on improving the situation already:

Arcadis

150 million dollars per year for just this contract.  But that's HALF the cost of the Iraq war PER DAY !!!!!!

http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home

Don't make me laugh....

[Hoopz]

Hemi:  Congratulations!  In just over 2 weeks and ~100 posts, you have already achieved 4 people ignoring you.  ChadTower, in 4 years and about ~30,000 posts only has 6 people ignoring him. 

That's truly an outstanding accomplishment!  Of course, CT has a lot of posts in EE that are fluff...but he is also one of the most helpful in other areas including wood working, monitors, pinball and basic electronics (to name but a few).   I'm still waiting on your helpful posts.  They're probably percolating in you and ready to come out!    

Come on, you can do it!  Something arcade related...  It's easy! 

[Hoopz]

What, no response?  You're on the Board so show us what you have!  It's been a couple of minutes so you're probably getting the most useful post EVER ready to go in a sub-forum somewhere.  I can't wait!  I'm going to highlight it on my monitor so I can easily find it at any time as it's going to be that good.

* This is going to be better than porn!

[ChadTower]

I guess you should not live in a city where other people live when one of them could have a gun and could possibly blow your brains out when you could have easily moved out into the forest where no other people exist.

Could you show us an example where someone with a gun destroyed an entire city and shot 1800 people?  Crime is everywhere.  Hurricanes are only in a couple of places and only a couple of places are specially designed to be as vulnerable as possible to them.  Take a look at a place like Kansas.  Notice there are no major cities in the tornado alleys.  Ever wonder why? 

[Ginsu Victim]

  Hoopz

[CheffoJeffo]

That HoopZ is a troublemaker ...

[Malenko]

Could you show us an example where someone with a gun destroyed an entire city and shot 1800 people?

actually if Chuck Norris had a gun......



Hemi, why are you trying to call me out? You cant fault me for having an opinion that differs from yours. All N.O. is good for is getting hit by hurricanes and girls flashing their titties on fat tuesday.  I didnt give you a smart assed answer, I gave you my opinion. Also, proper puncutation comes in handy, use a comma when you need it.

I helped my uncle jack off a horse.
I helped my uncle, Jack, off a horse.

[markrvp]

I helped my uncle jack off a horse.
I helped my uncle, Jack, off a horse.

I'm pretty sure Hemi falls under the first example.

[CCM]

Also, proper puncuation comes in handy, use a comma when you need it.

Proper spelling is always a good idea as well... Sorry, I couldn't resist!  I just found it funny that you were calling someone out on PUNCTUATION and you spelled the word wrong.

[Ginsu Victim]

Also, proper puncuation comes in handy, use a comma when you need it.

Proper spelling is always a good idea as well... Sorry, I couldn't resist!  I just found it funny that you were calling someone out on PUNCTUATION and you spelled the word wrong.

ZING!

[DaOld Man]

Ah, remember, Grasshopper... spellchecker very good thing to have.

[Hoopz]

WTF did Grasshopper do?  I dont think he should be called out like that!   

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=profile;u=451

[saint]

I helped my uncle jack off a horse.
I helped my uncle, Jack, off a horse.

You really need to not tempt me with custom-title bait when I'm sleep deprived...

[Malenko]

Proper spelling is always a good idea as well... Sorry, I couldn't resist!  I just found it funny that you were calling someone out on PUNCTUATION and you spelled the word wrong.

lol, yeah Im at work, with IE6. at home when using firefox, I always right-click the squiggly red lines. And I gotta type fast between calls.

I got owned, but at least I went back and fixed the spelling! (I think)


Saint: LOL

[Samstag]

Also, proper puncutation comes in handy, use a comma when you need it.

Ironic that you would misuse the comma here.  Don't use a comma to join sentences. 

[ChadTower]

if yall dont stop makin fun of peoples words ima step up with some punchuashon for all yall.

[ark_ader]

Why cannot the whole New Orleans government, make most of the trouble spots for flooding with flotation in mind?

I know that is funny or ridiculous to make that comment, but if they can put a man on the moon (please no flames) why cannot they make New Orleans float or even easier - under water.

Yes, flood the whole place and build a shield over the whole town.

It would take decades, but eventually with global warming the whole coastal regions of earth will be below water.

Why not start now?  Let us learn the mistakes now and save lives in the future? 


Hemi: Be good.  Besides you will never top my score on Ignore, no matter how many quarters you put into it.

[Hoopz]

Hemi: Be good.  Besides you will never top my score on Ignore, no matter how many quarters you put into it.

He's only one away.  I'll put the over/under that he passes you at 3 weeks.   

[Malenko]

Also, proper puncutation comes in handy, use a comma when you need it.

Ironic that you would misuse the comma here.  Don't use a comma to join sentences. 

No, it was single complete thought and was used in the proper context.

Hemi: Be good.  Besides you will never top my score on Ignore, no matter how many quarters you put into it.

He's only one away.  I'll put the over/under that he passes you at 3 weeks.   

He'll tie you soon......

I still want to give him a chance to post something useful. I would hate to miss that!


EDIT:

All N.O. is good for is getting hit by hurricanes and girls flashing their titties on fat tuesday.

THat's reason enough for them to rebuild over and over.

We'll they can still flash, just do it a lil further from the Gulf of Mexico

[RayB]

All N.O. is good for is getting hit by hurricanes and girls flashing their titties on fat tuesday.

THat's reason enough for them to rebuild over and over.

PS: Malenko, one thought or not, your sentence is a run-on sentence.

[Ginsu Victim]

Hemi and Ark are currently tied.

[Hoopz]

DAMMIT, beat by a couple of minutes by Ginsu...

Which one of you flapjacks bumped him up to tie A_A???

[Hoopz]

New leader!

[Samstag]

Also, proper puncutation comes in handy, use a comma when you need it.

Ironic that you would misuse the comma here.  Don't use a comma to join sentences. 

No, it was single complete thought and was used in the proper context.

I won't argue with your right to use your commas, but I think you should refrain from instructing on their correct use until you learn it yourself.  The real grammar nazis are snickering at you behind your back! 

[ChadTower]

I don't know how to feel about being ignored by more people than both of those toolbags.   

[ark_ader]

New leader!

Say its not true.

Congrats Hemi you win the button of the hour:

[Ginsu Victim]

Actually, he's more in the lead now.

[CheffoJeffo]

I would like to ignore everyone on this forum and just post in response to my posts, is that possible? 

Irony ?

 

[Hoopz]

Actually, he's more in the lead now.

That's just piling on.... Poor guy doesn't get off the school bus for another few minutes so he hasn't even had time today to post anything stupid.  Sad state of affairs around here now.



 

[SithMaster]

Ah the BYOAC where every topic includes mention of boobies and turns good natured comments into humorous discussion of ridiculousness.

Why cannot the whole New Orleans government, make most of the trouble spots for flooding with flotation in mind?

I know that is funny or ridiculous to make that comment, but if they can put a man on the moon (please no flames) why cannot they make New Orleans float or even easier - under water.

Yes, flood the whole place and build a shield over the whole town.

It would take decades, but eventually with global warming the whole coastal regions of earth will be below water.

Why not start now?  Let us learn the mistakes now and save lives in the future? 


Hemi: Be good.  Besides you will never top my score on Ignore, no matter how many quarters you put into it.

I think I saw that in a cartoon once.

Cheffo you had me looking over this topic looking for that quote until I realized it was from Tommy.  I hope you are compiling a tome of all his posts for future use should Saint come to his senses and turn off the internet.

[ark_ader]

Ah the BYOAC where every topic includes mention of boobies and turns good natured comments into humorous discussion of ridiculousness.

Why cannot the whole New Orleans government, make most of the trouble spots for flooding with flotation in mind?

I know that is funny or ridiculous to make that comment, but if they can put a man on the moon (please no flames) why cannot they make New Orleans float or even easier - under water.

Yes, flood the whole place and build a shield over the whole town.

It would take decades, but eventually with global warming the whole coastal regions of earth will be below water.

Why not start now?  Let us learn the mistakes now and save lives in the future? 


Hemi: Be good.  Besides you will never top my score on Ignore, no matter how many quarters you put into it.

I think I saw that in a cartoon once.

Cheffo you had me looking over this topic looking for that quote until I realized it was from Tommy.  I hope you are compiling a tome of all his posts for future use should Saint come to his senses and turn off the internet.

Are you implying that it is ridiculous to build a city under water or constantly above it?

Does Venice ring any bells with you?

With that kind of attitude I'm sure any project that would include some original thinking, would suffer. 

[Hemi]

Could you show us an example where someone with a gun destroyed an entire city

That was not the point, the point that Ken made was that it would be useless to rebuild an area because it will just happen again. It is not a matter of damage or how many people a guy with a gun kills, it's a matter of the fact that you know it's possible to die at the hands of another and yet you still walk around with and live near others when you can die like people do everyday, but that is no reason to not go outside or not live in N.O.

Honestly, guys, disagreeing with me because of facts or because you really believe it is one thing, but to disagree with me because you do not like me is just stupid. There is no way you can tell me that the people in N.O should not rebuild their homes in the town they live in and love. Have a heart for the people that live there, will ya?

What, no response?

* This is going to be better than porn!

See, that only works if I was actually online at the time when you posted your comment, like the 8 people were when I responded.

Hemi: Be good.  Besides you will never top my score on Ignore, no matter how many quarters you put into it.

He's only one away.  I'll put the over/under that he passes you at 3 weeks.   

Why people would ignore anyone is beyond me, I like to hear what everyone has to say no matter how much I dislike them.

New leader!

Say its not true.

Congrats Hemi you win the button of the hour:

[CheffoJeffo]

Honestly, guys, disagreeing with me because of facts or because you really believe it is one thing, but to disagree with me because you do not like me is just stupid.

Tommy has a no tolerance for stupid responses is now in affect.

[Hemi]

Who is this guy and why are you quoting some other user, CheffoJeffo?

Did I miss something somewhere? Tommy did not post in this thread. 


Posting about the topic at hand and not spamming the forum might be a good rule for you to follow.

[CheffoJeffo]

Don't make me look and point out your pointless posts pecker peter.

[Hemi]

Is this guy on the crackrock or something? 

[CheffoJeffo]

That's very shallow and naive.

[Singapura]

Who is this guy and why are you quoting some other user, CheffoJeffo?

Hemi, did you miss the Tommy era? A crucial deficiency in your education. Go read up on those postings, especially after he was banned and came back as "Jerry". 

Oh wait, you're not Tommy are you? I'm still on my first cup of coffee of the day 

[Hemi]

You guys seem to have some major head problems. As I sit here trying to post on topic and and talk about N.O, all you guys can seem to do is post a bunch of insults and garbage that has nothing to do with anything. Is there anyone monitoring these members who seem to only post to irritate? Have some respect, if not for me, for the forum and the forum owner and act like adults.

If I were to fly off the handle at some of these posts (and I would be justified) I would be banned on site, but not any of you. Just calm down and relax and act like you are not a bunch of morons.

[patrickl]

It's like "The boy who cried 'Troll'":

After acting like a troll for a while, no one took him serious anymore. No matter how many insults he threw around or how much he stamped his feet nothing helped him being taken serious.  It's not easy to be accepted again after trolling too much, but it can be done. There were other trolls before him, who repented and changed their ways. After apologizing and actually being nice for longer than they trolled, they now are valued members of this community. Others kept on their trollsey path and ultimately went out the ban door.

To be continued ...

[Hemi]

It does not matter how much of a "troll" some of you think I've been. The fact is I have been talking about a topic here and not bothering anyone. You guys are the trolls who enter this thread and do not act as if you have a brain.

[Hoopz]

It does not matter how much of a "troll" some of you think I've been. The fact is I have been talking about a topic here and not bothering anyone. You guys are the trolls who enter this thread and do not act as if you have a brain.

Don't be sexist.  Women post here also. Don't be hater!

[Hemi]

It does not matter how much of a "troll" some of you think I've been. The fact is I have been talking about a topic here and not bothering anyone. You guys are the trolls who enter this thread and do not act as if you have a brain.

Don't be sexist.  Women post here also. Don't be hater!

Your mom doesn't count, though.

If you want to keep it up, I can keep it up. I only hope the true losers on this forum get what they deserve. Not likely though with an Obama supporter as a site owner.

[Malenko]

wow, insulting the site owner, nice.

I dont think its tommy, I think its Suits00

[Hemi]

Being an Obama supporter is an insult? I think so too, but wow, thanks for the laugh. 

[Malenko]

Being an Obama supporter is an insult? I think so too, but wow, thanks for the laugh. 

umm.... then what do you mean by this?

I only hope the true losers on this forum get what they deserve. Not likely though with an Obama supporter as a site owner.

Certainly doesn't sound complimentary to me.

[patrickl]

You got booted out of PnR because you are (or were acting like) a jerk. Not because Saint is an Obama supporter.

[Hemi]

Being an Obama supporter is an insult? I think so too, but wow, thanks for the laugh. 

umm.... then what do you mean by this?

I only hope the true losers on this forum get what they deserve. Not likely though with an Obama supporter as a site owner.

Certainly doesn't sound complimentary to me.

It could mean that like Obama, they both really have no idea what they're doing? I may have said a few things that agitated some users, but never insulted until I was insulted. Not agreeing with my PnR views is not a reason to lose access, and that was the case.

I don't think it was a bad run, and you guys can't complain, either. You finally had something interesting to talk about and that was lacking for a long while. 

[CheffoJeffo]

Just calm down and relax and act like you are not a bunch of morons.

How about you calm down and give way to better judgment and don't post crappy useless posts anymore?

 

[CheffoJeffo]

Not agreeing with my PnR views is not a reason to lose access, and that was the case.

Let me see ... do I believe Hemi or do I already know that saint would never yank access based on political views ?

It's an absolute brain-bender!

 

[Hemi]

Yeah, it's inconceivable that a single person could ever have a lapse in judgment and ever make a mistake.

[CheffoJeffo]

You gotta stand up for yourself when you feel you have to, maybe this is not a worthy battle to some, but it is to me.

[Ginsu Victim]

Ever think that we don't agree with you, Hemi, because....WE DON'T AGREE?

Rebuilding New Orleans is ridiculous.

As for Obama, I don't support him either (or McCain), but this isn't the PnR board, so shut your pie-hole.

[Hemi]

It seems from your comments and how nasty you are, that you really deserve your name, and need to be bludgeoned many times with a very sharp knife.

[SithMaster]

Ah the BYOAC where every topic includes mention of boobies and turns good natured comments into humorous discussion of ridiculousness.

Why cannot the whole New Orleans government, make most of the trouble spots for flooding with flotation in mind?

I know that is funny or ridiculous to make that comment, but if they can put a man on the moon (please no flames) why cannot they make New Orleans float or even easier - under water.

Yes, flood the whole place and build a shield over the whole town.

It would take decades, but eventually with global warming the whole coastal regions of earth will be below water.

Why not start now?  Let us learn the mistakes now and save lives in the future? 


Hemi: Be good.  Besides you will never top my score on Ignore, no matter how many quarters you put into it.

I think I saw that in a cartoon once.

Cheffo you had me looking over this topic looking for that quote until I realized it was from Tommy.  I hope you are compiling a tome of all his posts for future use should Saint come to his senses and turn off the internet.

Are you implying that it is ridiculous to build a city under water or constantly above it?

Does Venice ring any bells with you?

With that kind of attitude I'm sure any project that would include some original thinking, would suffer. 

I was implying that I might have seen that in a cartoon once.  Its an interesting idea and it worked well in stargate atlantis, but I'd be worried about construction mistakes and some idiot trying to see whats on the outside of the protective dome by making a hole in it.  I would also be worried about the integrity of the dome if more water goes above it due to global warming since New Orleans likes building weaker stuff first it would take a few dome collapses to get it to a safer level.  Then maintenance becomes more important and since we don't like repairing bridges why would we fix any damage to the dome protecting us.

I could see it working if it involved tunnels segmenting the city to prevent flooding from spreading in the event of a catastrophe.  I'm not sure what kind of system you had planned from your post though.  In any case it wouldn't be cost effective and would hinder traditional New Orleans type architecture.

Yes I've heard of this Venice that you speak of though it is sinking or something.  I think they had a system that would raise barriers to prevent water from hitting their city during storms.  I'll try and find a link...link

[AtomSmasher]

I was implying that I might have seen that in a cartoon once.  Its an interesting idea and it worked well in stargate atlantis, but I'd be worried about construction mistakes and some idiot trying to see whats on the outside of the protective dome by making a hole in it.  I would also be worried about the integrity of the dome if more water goes above it due to global warming since New Orleans likes building weaker stuff first it would take a few dome collapses to get it to a safer level.  Then maintenance becomes more important and since we don't like repairing bridges why would we fix any damage to the dome protecting us.

I could see it working if it involved tunnels segmenting the city to prevent flooding from spreading in the event of a catastrophe.  I'm not sure what kind of system you had planned from your post though.  In any case it wouldn't be cost effective and would hinder traditional New Orleans type architecture.

Yes I've heard of this Venice that you speak of though it is sinking or something.  I think they had a system that would raise barriers to prevent water from hitting their city during storms.  I'll try and find a link...link

I think one of my biggest concerns would be people going mad from taking too many plasmids.

[Hemi]

You got booted out of PnR because you are (or were acting like) a jerk. Not because Saint is an Obama supporter.

Really? Going by that definition of the cause to lose access, there would be no one left in that section.  I know you're not silly enough to think only being a jerk is enough to get booted. Everyone in that section is a jerk 99 times out of 100, only they have been here long enough to have some slack.

[Hemi]

There are not many times N.O would get hit by a serious hurricane. The odds are maybe 1 time in 3-4 years. You gotta think they can come up with a way to protect them self better in the time between hurricanes and knowing what is needed, but that is no reason to abandon the state.

[patrickl]

You got booted out of PnR because you are (or were acting like) a jerk. Not because Saint is an Obama supporter.

Really? Going by that definition of the cause to lose access, there would be no one left in that section.  I know you're not silly enough to think only being a jerk is enough to get booted. Everyone in that section is a jerk 99 times out of 100, only they have been here long enough to have some slack.

Well maybe you are right with that last statement. Indeed a high lever of "jerkness" is allowed in PnR. Still you were a jerk above what was allowed or maybe you got less slack since the first you did was to act like a jerk. For that you got locked out. The fact that you still don't understand what you did wrong and what you are still doing wrong here only shows that Saint was correct in his assessment.

Maybe he was too lenient, but then he does tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. better not betray that trust though ...

[Singapura]

 

[Malenko]

I think one of my biggest concerns would be people going mad from taking too many plasmids.

Excellent BioShock Reference

Being an Obama supporter is an insult? I think so too, but wow, thanks for the laugh.  

umm.... then what do you mean by this?

I only hope the true losers on this forum get what they deserve. Not likely though with an Obama supporter as a site owner.

Certainly doesn't sound complimentary to me.

It could mean that like Obama, they both really have no idea what they're doing?

Im sorry you are correct, you werent trying to insult him.


+1 to my own quotefu


Also,  the reason why being a jerk is more tolerated in PnR is because you have to show you can handle it and not everyone is allowed in there. In fact you have to request access to it, and if you dont want to put up with that section, you do what I do and stay out of there. However you, Hemi, are bringing that jerkiness to other sections of the board.

If you REALLY want back into PnR stop being a cock-holster, start posting useful posts, and try going into a section and helping out. If youre a good little boy and show you can handle being normal in the normal sections of the board Im sure saint could allow you to be a jerk (albiet less of one) back in PnR.

The Saint giveth and the Saint Taketh away.

Speaking of, its a great insult to all of us for you to say he (and his selected moderators) hasnt done a great job running these boards. Ive been a member here for over 6 years and have never had an issue with anyone or anything because of great moderation. Go to page 266 of the BST section and you can see some of my first posts, lol.

Thanks Saint.

[Ginsu Victim]

It seems from your comments and how nasty you are, that you really deserve your name, and need to be bludgeoned many times with a very sharp knife.

Really? I don't think I'm being nasty at all. You've got eight members ignoring you. Who's the nasty one?

As for my pseudonym, I've had it for 13 years online (and I'm the only Ginsu Victim). How many people are called Hemi? More than you probably realize.

[Vanguard]

Not agreeing with my PnR views is not a reason to lose access, and that was the case.

In my assessment, you lost access because you were trying to insight people.  In PnR we have debates about topics.  Sometimes people get a little hot under the collar.  That is par for the course.  But you came in with no intention of debating.  You came in with the sole purpose of trying to push peoples buttons.  Even people who don't like Obama didn't appreciate you being there. 

I don't think it was a bad run, and you guys can't complain, either. You finally had something interesting to talk about and that was lacking for a long while. 

You just joined the forums, what do you know about what "was lacking for a long while"? 

[Jdurg]

Well, NO is the city at the mouth of the Mississippi River, and that is why it became a city.  If you look at all of the major cities in the US, they are all based near a body of water.  This is because water was, and still is to this day, one of the best ways to transport goods.  Look at Boston, New York City, Seattle, San Francisco, Oakland, etc.  They are all right on the coast and as a result are some of the more important cities we have. 

NO is also a checkpoint for a lot of goods coming into the US.  Any large cargo that has to go up the Mississippi river to any of the cities along it has to go through New Orleans.  There are still many cargo loads that just can't be shipped any way except by boat.

As for why there are no big cities in Tornado Alley, that's really just a consequence of the terrain out there and not because of tornados.  Again, water sources are the key aspect of a thriving city and there aren't too many major waterways in the middle of the plains.  The only real big one is the Mississippi River and there are PLENTY of major cities right along it.  Cities in the middle of Iowa, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Montana, etc. generally don't exist because there really aren't any reasons for them to be big cities.  A big city develops when the terrain around it is useful, or there is a resource near there that makes it an attractive place to live.  Most of the cities out in the southwest grew rapidly thanks to the discovery of gold and silver and the need for the mining industry.

To say that New Orleans doesn't need to exist is really not something that any of us here on this board can say.  None of us are urban planners and playing SimCity doesn't count.   

[ChadTower]

In my assessment, you lost access because you were trying to insight people. 

I think my head assploded.

[Ginsu Victim]

Even people who don't like Obama didn't appreciate you being there.

Yep, I'm no Obama supporter, but Hemi gets under my skin worse than anyone I've encountered on here so far. (To be fair, I've only been posting since Feb, but have been a lurker for MANY years)

In my assessment, you lost access because you were trying to insight people.

He is out to enzyte a riot. 

[ChadTower]

He is out to enzyte a riot. 

Personal flame enhancement?

[Hoopz]

He is out to enzyte a riot. 

Personal flame enhancement?

[Ginsu Victim]

His flaming may be potent now, but give it some time and he'll go limp.

Hemi, your arguments are flacid. Go try and get it up on another board.

[markrvp]

Can we get back to discussing why NO should be flooded again? 

[ark_ader]

Well I think they should give up the ghost, bulldoze it all and start a new with the view to make it a floating community, mixed with shipping and aquatic living.  Half in and half out of the water.

The rest of the surrounding area after the clean up, give back to the environment.  This will give other countries ideas to make future floating communities a reality and not fantasy as others like to phrase it.  Especially in Asian Typhoon hit areas.

Weather is going to play a part of our life in the coming years.  The storms will get worse.  Best to act now and develop the new cities of tomorrow into a safe utopia.  Think of the work with generate, especially when we see how fragile we really are, and how powerful the earth really is. 

Yes there will be problems, but society will have to change as well.  It will be worse before it gets better.  it always is.

The new utopia will have to come eventually or we will all just simply drown or freeze, and the earth will reset itself, like it has done so many times before.  It reminds me of AI (the movie) or Waterworld and how the cities were eaten up by rising water.

I cannot think of any alternative for NO.  You cannot just leave the whole place because of some tropical storm approaching.  It will turn into some annual  bizarre nightmare migration when the wind blows or starts to rain. 

[markrvp]

When does the next hurricane hit New Orleans?

[ChadTower]

When does the next hurricane hit New Orleans?

Sunday at 1pm Hurricane Brooks touches down at the Superdome.  Sorry, New Orleans.

[Hemi]

It seems from your comments and how nasty you are, that you really deserve your name, and need to be bludgeoned many times with a very sharp knife.

Really? I don't think I'm being nasty at all. You've got eight members ignoring you. Who's the nasty one?

Yeah, 8 democrats who can not stand when I call their candidate a terrorist. This boards politics are so biased it's not funny. They run out a strong McCain supporter when he attacks their beloved terrorist candidate. The site owner is not supposed to base his decisions on HIS political views.

[CheffoJeffo]

Yeah, 8 democrats who can not stand when I call their candidate a terrorist. This boards politics are so biased it's not funny. They run out a strong McCain supporter when he attacks their beloved terrorist candidate. The site owner is not supposed to base his decisions on HIS political views.

I'm just very tired of having to suffer due to ignorance

And, once again, you seem to be the only person who thinks that saint makes decisions that way.

Well there was that other guy who ran around the boards whining like a first grader because he thought saint was being unfair ... what was his name again ?

EDIT: You should also remember -- this ain't no democracy. saint can do whatever he wants, including smiting you with his mighty ban hammer.

* CheffoJeffo hopes saint picked up on the subtle message

[Ginsu Victim]

It seems from your comments and how nasty you are, that you really deserve your name, and need to be bludgeoned many times with a very sharp knife.

Really? I don't think I'm being nasty at all. You've got eight members ignoring you. Who's the nasty one?

Yeah, 8 democrats who can not stand when I call their candidate a terrorist. This boards politics are so biased it's not funny. They run out a strong McCain supporter when he attacks their beloved terrorist candidate. The site owner is not supposed to base his decisions on HIS political views.

You don't seem to understand the rules. POLITICS go in PnR. If you can't handle the responsibility of being in PnR (which you obviously couldn't), then you can't talk politics on this site.

[Ginsu Victim]

You should also remember -- this ain't no democracy. saint can do whatever he wants, including smiting you with his mighty ban hammer.

* CheffoJeffo hopes saint picked up on the subtle message

How about a democracy? We DO have polls. Can't we vote this guy out? If enough of us are annoyed by this loser (who contributes NOTHING), then I hope Saint would listen.

[patrickl]

Indeed, he obviously doesn't like it here, so Saint would be doing him a service. Besides, what's the point of having a subversive with no positive input around?

[CheffoJeffo]

How about a democracy? We DO have polls. Can't we vote this guy out? If enough of us are annoyed by this loser (who contributes NOTHING), then I hope Saint would listen.

Covered by The Supreme Chancellor's Rules 10 and 12.

10. Generally annoying behavior. If you're following all the rules but are still managing through conduct or behavior to annoy a significant portion of the BYOAC membership to the point where the forum as a whole suffers, you will first be asked to modify your conduct and then will possibly be banned.

12. Other. Moderators and admins will do what is deemed necessary to keep things cordial and flame-free. This includes dealing with thread-poisoning, flaming, trolling, etc. This is the "catch-all" rule for the inevitable rule-lawyer.

I think that somebody's gonna get tommy'd if he doesn't settle down.

 

[Ginsu Victim]

Tommy, can you hear me?

[AtomSmasher]

Yeah, 8 democrats who can not stand when I call their candidate a terrorist. This boards politics are so biased it's not funny. They run out a strong McCain supporter when he attacks their beloved terrorist candidate. The site owner is not supposed to base his decisions on HIS political views.

You don't seem to understand the rules. POLITICS go in PnR. If you can't handle the responsibility of being in PnR (which you obviously couldn't), then you can't talk politics on this site.

Lets take a look at the reason Hemi admitted to saying some of the things he said in PnR:

They don't realise I enjoy getting under some of their skins, so some of the things I say are only used for that purpose.

Like or not, I set out to piss them off and I have more than done that at this point.

Now lets take a look at forum rule #1:

Messages that are flame-bait, hateful, racist, or otherwise pointlessly antagonistic will likely be sent to post-hell, and repeat offenders banned from posting.

I do believe making posts with the purpose to piss off other members would fall under the "flame-bait" and "pointlessly antagonistic" catagories.

There are quite a few people in PnR who are very vocal about not liking Obama, so it wouldn't make a lot of sense for Saint to single you out for that reason.  You broke the rules and you got banned from that section, case closed.

Of course if you continue with your current posting direction you will likely end up breaking rule #10

Generally annoying behavior. If you're following all the rules but are still managing through conduct or behavior to annoy a significant portion of the BYOAC membership to the point where the forum as a whole suffers, you will first be asked to modify your conduct and then will possibly be banned.

[AtomSmasher]

I think that somebody's gonna get tommy'd if he doesn't settle down.

 

I don't know if you forgot or are simply referring to Tommy's short term bans, but Tommy's account was permanently deleted at Tommy's request, not Saint's.  I don't think Hemi will voluntarily ask for his account to be deleted, like Tommy did.

I guess I have first delete my account for saint to then do it permanent.

[CheffoJeffo]

Like I would ever forget anything about tommy ... 

I can't take credit for the term "tommy'd", although I do believe the originator uses it as a euphemism for a timeout ban rather than a permanent ban. 

[Hemi]

Yeah, 8 democrats who can not stand when I call their candidate a terrorist. This boards politics are so biased it's not funny. They run out a strong McCain supporter when he attacks their beloved terrorist candidate. The site owner is not supposed to base his decisions on HIS political views.

You don't seem to understand the rules. POLITICS go in PnR. If you can't handle the responsibility of being in PnR (which you obviously couldn't), then you can't talk politics on this site.

Lets take a look at the reason Hemi admitted to saying some of the things he said in PnR:

They don't realise I enjoy getting under some of their skins, so some of the things I say are only used for that purpose.

Like or not, I set out to piss them off and I have more than done that at this point.

Now lets take a look at forum rule #1:

Messages that are flame-bait, hateful, racist, or otherwise pointlessly antagonistic will likely be sent to post-hell, and repeat offenders banned from posting.

I do believe making posts with the purpose to piss off other members would fall under the "flame-bait" and "pointlessly antagonistic" catagories.

There are quite a few people in PnR who are very vocal about not liking Obama, so it wouldn't make a lot of sense for Saint to single you out for that reason.  You broke the rules and you got banned from that section, case closed.

Of course if you continue with your current posting direction you will likely end up breaking rule #10

Generally annoying behavior. If you're following all the rules but are still managing through conduct or behavior to annoy a significant portion of the BYOAC membership to the point where the forum as a whole suffers, you will first be asked to modify your conduct and then will possibly be banned.

People in the PnR section were calling me names and breaking rule number 10 far before I admitted what you quoted me on. At that point I was just saying anti-Obama things that they did not like.

[Malenko]

When I put you on ignore, it wont have anything do to with your stance on Obama. I'm pretty sure not all 8 people ignoring you are doing so because of your political views.

Take a step back and look what you have posted on here, I want you to do a SELF AUDIT. I am not counting PnR, but the regular boards. How many of your posts were typed out in an effort to assist a BYOAC member? how many were to buy and or sell an arcade/byoac item? How many helped someone fix a monitor , get a front end working right, or done to assist someone creating some art for their control panel? How many polls have you replied to about what your favorite game is and why?


I sincerely doubt you have a single post like that. I am BEGGING you to prove me wrong. Link me to one so I can see the time stamp of when your first helpful post was. Even tommy was active in other areas of this board, heck even Suits00 posted some positive things in the artwork section!

I dont think your ego could fit on top of Suits00's control panel.

[Ginsu Victim]

At that point I was just saying anti-Obama things that they did not like.

Admission of guilt....again.

[Hemi]

I've been under attack just after making one post in a few other topics. From then on all I have time for it defending the way you guys seem to have taken what I said wrong. After that, it just snowballs, after seeing so many nasty comments, I just get nasty, too. Then I end up looking even more like an ass because I had to defend myself.

At that point I was just saying anti-Obama things that they did not like.

Admission of guilt....again.

I am guilty of not liking Obama and enjoy letting the other side know about it, so? I made a few terrorists jokes about Obama, they could not handle it.

[Ginsu Victim]

Maybe your sentence could be taken two ways. I read it as "at the end of the day, I was intentionally saying things they didn't like".

[CheffoJeffo]

I've been under attack just after making one post in a few other topics. From then on all I have time for it defending the way you guys seem to have taken what I said wrong. After that, it just snowballs, after seeing so many nasty comments, I just get nasty, too. Then I end up looking even more like an ass because I had to defend myself.

I start a thread, some fool comes in and starts making an ass out of himself and I call him an ass a few times, but it was obvious he was being an ass and my thread gets sent to post hell, why? I look around and guys are calling each other all kinds of names left and right all over the place, then I call a guy an ass and all hell breaks loose.

Me posting has almost become a place for asses to come into and show how much of an ass they can be in a thread of mine, the only thing is when I call them on it I'm the bad guy. If Saint wants me out of here then he needs to just do it, judging by his actions...

 

[Ginsu Victim]

Where's that Google translation tool located? I haven't seen the Hemi to Tommy filter.

[Hemi]

Read my 3rd and 4th post on the first page, you tell me what went wrong? Was that stupid comment really deemed necessary by Sommuny?

And this guy Cheffo is not trying to help out the situation, only make it worse. Do something productive with your life Cheffo, jump off a bridge.

[CheffoJeffo]

And this guy Cheffo is not trying to help out the situation, only make it worse. Do something productive with your like Cheffo, jump off a bridge.

Maybe you should take a long walk off a short pier with that comment....

 

[polaris]

Where's that Google translation tool located? I haven't seen the Hemi to Tommy filter.

google is weak in comparison to the mighty fu powers of the zakkistani nation

[CheffoJeffo]

google is weak in comparison to the mighty fu powers of the zakkistani nation

 

 

[Hemi]

And this guy Cheffo is not trying to help out the situation, only make it worse. Do something productive with your like Cheffo, jump off a bridge.

Maybe you should take a long walk off a short pier with that comment....

 

I can find similarities in anything anyone says. We are all people and if you have enough posts to go by, you can make it look however you want.

Do you get some sort of a prize if you make people think I'm your long lost firend? What is the point in this and who would care anyway, Cheffo?

It's pathetic that I have to sit here and respond to some psycho who keeps quoting other users.

[AtomSmasher]

I've been under attack just after making one post in a few other topics. From then on all I have time for it defending the way you guys seem to have taken what I said wrong. After that, it just snowballs, after seeing so many nasty comments, I just get nasty, too. Then I end up looking even more like an ass because I had to defend myself.

Even if that were true, you can't blame your political beliefs for that since I'm sure you consider that is what happened in the Honda thread which went to post hell before you even had access to PnR.

I believe Hoopz summed things up well in a previous thread

You have to earn your stripes sometimes.  In all seriousness and without any nastiness, you have not come across very well in your initial first 100 posts or whatever.  Maybe it's tone or unintentional but even when trying to help you make comments that are nasty/short/bs/snippy or whatever.

[CheffoJeffo]

Do you get some sort of a prize if you make people think I'm your long lost firend? What is the point in this and who would care anyway, Cheffo?

Admittedly, the technique has not yet produced the desired results, but it has proven effective in the past. And it's fun to boot!

It's pathetic that I have to sit here and respond to some psycho who keeps quoting other users.

NO! Now you need to get out of a bad situation and become happy.  

 

[Hemi]

I'm trying to make things better and what you're doing is counter-productive. I'm not really interested in what fun your having at the moment.

[CheffoJeffo]

* CheffoJeffo takes a timeout from tommytime(tm) for a serious post

If you really want to make things better, start by apologizing for the crap you have been spewing about saint. He doesn't need me or anybody else to defend him, but he has done nothing but good here and let you into his sandbox to play. And you crapped in it, then blamed him.

Then, start contributing, stop being such a whiner about people not liking you and be nice.

[Hemi]

If you really want to make things better, start by apologizing for the crap you have been spewing about saint.

Can't do that when I think the situation with me and the PnR section was based on him liking Obama. If I were to say sorry it would be a lie to get you off my back and I cannot do that.

Then, start contributing, stop being such a whiner about people not liking you and be nice.

I was never whining about people not liking me, but I had to explain why I was not contributing and having to defend myself was the reason.

[CheffoJeffo]

Can't do that when I think the situation with me and the PnR section was based on him liking Obama. If I were to say sorry it would be a lie to get you off my back and I cannot do that.

All i can do is state my passion to not lay down and will to be strong, i think i have more then done that in this byoac politics section. I have nothing more to say.

Oh, and you are 100% wrong ... witness the other folks in PnR whose opinions saint doesn't agree with.

[Hemi]

Anyway, the point here is, you do not have to like me, and that's fine, but it is not fair to find my posts and always be there behind me ready to say how I'm about to do the wrong thing an act like an ass before I even begin to post.

[CheffoJeffo]

Anyway, the point here is, you do not have to like me, and that's fine, but it is not fair to find my posts and always be there behind me ready to say how I'm about to do the wrong thing an act like an ass before I even begin to post.

Talk about trampling all over a guys dreams. 

At least I'm not ignoring you ...

 

[Hemi]

At this point, I think I'd prefer it. 

[polaris]

Anyway, the point here is, you do not have to like me, and that's fine, but it is not fair to find my posts and always be there behind me ready to say how I'm about to do the wrong thing an act like an ass before I even begin to post.

Anyway, the point here is, you do not have to like me, and that's fine, but it is not fair to find my posts and always be there behind me ready to say how I'm about to do the wrong thing an act like an ass before I even begin to post.

Talk about trampling all over a guys dreams. 

At least I'm not ignoring you ...

 

1min 28secs , awesome

[CheffoJeffo]

At this point, I think I'd prefer it. 

I was just TRYING to be funny 

EDIT: Got out of sequence, so best include the original quote

[Hemi]

I can see now I'm going to have to ignore YOU so I do not have to look at these "funny" posts any longer. I guess you can continue on with this but with me not being able to see it, it will be worthless. 

Now, deal with being the only guy on the forum the guy with the most users ignoring him chooses to ignore.

[CheffoJeffo]

I can see now I'm going to have to ignore YOU so I do not have to look at these "funny" posts any longer. I guess you can continue on with this but with me not being able to see it, it will be worthless. 

Now, deal with being the only guy on the forum the guy with the most users ignoring him chooses to ignore.

I would like to ignore everyone on this forum and just post in response to my posts, is that possible? 

It'll still be fun for me ...

[polaris]

I can see now I'm going to have to ignore YOU so I do not have to look at these "funny" posts any longer. I guess you can continue on with this but with me not being able to see it, it will be worthless. 

Now, deal with being the only guy on the forum the guy with the most users ignoring him chooses to ignore.

I would like to ignore everyone on this forum and just post in response to my posts, is that possible? 

It'll still be fun for me ...

in accordance with our nations alliance i feel it necessary to quote your every post in retaliation to any censorship attempts


 

[CheffoJeffo]

It's nice to have a good foreign policy.

 

[Ed_McCarron]

But not everyone you're talking about is living in a ---smurfing--- bowl, waiting to be drowned over and over again. The term "gluttons for punishment" comes to mind.

Agreed.  You want to live there?  Knock yourself out.  No insurance for you.  No federal aid for you.  I rank this up with the people that live under volcanoes, the people that live on beaches, and the people that live anywhere else there is inherent danger.

You choose to live there, you deal with the consequences.

On the other hand, if they just backfill the entire citym it won't be under sealevel any more.

[SithMaster]

Well, NO is the city at the mouth of the Mississippi River, and that is why it became a city.  If you look at all of the major cities in the US, they are all based near a body of water.  This is because water was, and still is to this day, one of the best ways to transport goods.  Look at Boston, New York City, Seattle, San Francisco, Oakland, etc.  They are all right on the coast and as a result are some of the more important cities we have. 

NO is also a checkpoint for a lot of goods coming into the US.  Any large cargo that has to go up the Mississippi river to any of the cities along it has to go through New Orleans.  There are still many cargo loads that just can't be shipped any way except by boat.

As for why there are no big cities in Tornado Alley, that's really just a consequence of the terrain out there and not because of tornados.  Again, water sources are the key aspect of a thriving city and there aren't too many major waterways in the middle of the plains.  The only real big one is the Mississippi River and there are PLENTY of major cities right along it.  Cities in the middle of Iowa, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Montana, etc. generally don't exist because there really aren't any reasons for them to be big cities.  A big city develops when the terrain around it is useful, or there is a resource near there that makes it an attractive place to live.  Most of the cities out in the southwest grew rapidly thanks to the discovery of gold and silver and the need for the mining industry.

To say that New Orleans doesn't need to exist is really not something that any of us here on this board can say.  None of us are urban planners and playing SimCity doesn't count.   

I've heard that most of the port cities on the east coast aren't as active in the water transport industry as they used to be specifically New York City.  Anyway I'd like a clarification of your floating city idea.  Will this be the houses that can float if needed or do you want everything to rest on the water constantly?  I only ask because it could make traveling by road difficult.

A good idea might be to limit personal dwellings at the mouth of the river or even prevent them from being built at all.  If that area is so important to maritime activities then just allow commercial, ie shipping related industry, to be near there.  If its business related prevention of asset damage will be more forthcoming.

[Hemi]

N.O has too much history and culture to start to mess with it and destroy it all now. The city has been like this and fine for how many decades now? Just because they get unlucky with a few storms is no reason to start talking about floating cities.

[SithMaster]

N.O has too much history and culture to start to mess with it and destroy it all now. The city has been like this and fine for how many decades now? Just because they get unlucky with a few storms is no reason to start talking about floating cities.

I think the storm destroyed it already.  They can have their culture just move it a few miles inland to prevent the same situation from happening again.  I think its best to actually use the ideas designed to save life and property in any future rebuilding plans.  Seriously just because the city flooded at that level once doesn't mean it won't happen again.  Actually by your argument I can say they shouldn't even build dams and levees to prevent flooding since they ruin the culture and history of the city.

In the end people will build where they shouldn't, have their homes destroyed, get stiffed on the insurance claim, rebuild anyway, repeat.

[ChadTower]

N.O has too much history and culture to start to mess with it and destroy it all now.

So did Pompei.

A few decades means nothing in terms of history.  The US is a very young country on scale of worldwide history.

[ark_ader]

I was day dreaming about underwater cities, and then thought of this guy:



Then it reminds me of someone else who is just as irritating.   

[Ginsu Victim]

We interrupt this thread for a message from Saint

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=84110.0

[scotthh]

At 10am on 8/27, the National Weather Service had issued a hurricane watch for New Orleans. At 4pm on 8/28, the National Hurricane Center was advising that  "SOME LEVEES IN THE GREATER NEW ORLEANS AREA COULD BE OVERTOPPED." The mayor didn't bother to tell people to leave until 10am on 8/28.  The hurricane made landfall in the morning 8/29. I was in South East Florida for some of the 2004 season (Frances and Jeanne). Sure FEMA comes around with some money after the fact, But the protection and clean-up are local. It's amazing that New Orleans could re-elect the completely incompetent Ray Nagin, who's city government deserves the majority of the blame for the loss of life. At least Governor Kathleen Blanco retired. If you had property destroyed on the gulf or Florida coast due to a hurricane, you were most likely entitled to government money. If you choose to rebuild, it shouldn't be the rest of America's responsibility to insure you again. Feel free to  , but I don't want to pay for it.

[scotthh]

Am I the only one who finds this post as offensive as one of Hemi's?

Am I the only one who thinks it's funny that a country that spends hundreds of billions of dollars on a pointless war cannot have the money/will to protect NO properly ?

It would be funny, if it weren't so sad....

O, and here's another thought: What is cheaper in the long run: repairing all the damages again and again or investing in safety to prevent the damages to happen again ?

By the way, there seems to have been a start on improving the situation already:

Arcadis

150 million dollars per year for just this contract.  But that's HALF the cost of the Iraq war PER DAY !!!!!!

http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home

Don't make me laugh....

Perhaps you need to remember your history. Burying your head in the sand and claiming neutrality against murderers doesn't work. After 4 years of occupation and over 200,000 dead Dutch, the US and UK rescued The Netherlands from the Germans.

[CheffoJeffo]

Am I the only one who finds this post as offensive as one of Hemi's?

I didn't find it offensive.

The main point was the relative costs of the two endeavours and was rather insightful.

I actually found the political retort, aside from being slanted and not completely representative of the realities of the time, to be more offensive ... especially since you left out the Canadians!

 

 

[Ginsu Victim]

Am I the only one who finds this post as offensive as one of Hemi's?

Hemi's posts aren't usually offensive, they're more of an assault on better judgement.

[Hemi]

Am I the only one who finds this post as offensive as one of Hemi's?

Hemi's posts aren't usually offensive, they're more of an assault on better judgement.

Now that is offensive. 

[mameotron]

Yeah, 8 democrats who can not stand when I call their candidate a terrorist. This boards politics are so biased it's not funny. They run out a strong McCain supporter when he attacks their beloved terrorist candidate. The site owner is not supposed to base his decisions on HIS political views.

It's obvious you weren't around here for the '04 elections.  You're making yourself look pretty foolish with statements like that.


Hemi, I don't go to the PNR forums anymore, but I can already see you're not handling yourself too well here.  Saint's patience has its limits.

[mameotron]

Amazing that nobody has pointed out that not only is New Orleans below sea level, it got that way because it is sinking.

It's not an easy thing to fix, and back in the day the people who founded New Orleans didn't say, hey, let's move to a spot that's below sea level, it'll be so cool.  We'll have the girls flash their tits to keep our minds off the looming hurricane danger.

The point I'm making is that the city has drastically changed over the last 150 years.  If you filled up all of the french quarter with 50 feet of dirt and built on top of it, you would still have the erosion problem and eventually would be back below sea level.  That solution has been tossed around for the last 50 years at least, but it's generally accepted that the idea won't work.

The city is doomed, and if you don't want to move the culture then I guess you'll have to accept that you will lose it.