New Orleans

[Hemi]

Yeah, 8 democrats who can not stand when I call their candidate a terrorist. This boards politics are so biased it's not funny. They run out a strong McCain supporter when he attacks their beloved terrorist candidate. The site owner is not supposed to base his decisions on HIS political views.

You don't seem to understand the rules. POLITICS go in PnR. If you can't handle the responsibility of being in PnR (which you obviously couldn't), then you can't talk politics on this site.

Lets take a look at the reason Hemi admitted to saying some of the things he said in PnR:

They don't realise I enjoy getting under some of their skins, so some of the things I say are only used for that purpose.

Like or not, I set out to piss them off and I have more than done that at this point.

Now lets take a look at forum rule #1:

Messages that are flame-bait, hateful, racist, or otherwise pointlessly antagonistic will likely be sent to post-hell, and repeat offenders banned from posting.

I do believe making posts with the purpose to piss off other members would fall under the "flame-bait" and "pointlessly antagonistic" catagories.

There are quite a few people in PnR who are very vocal about not liking Obama, so it wouldn't make a lot of sense for Saint to single you out for that reason.  You broke the rules and you got banned from that section, case closed.

Of course if you continue with your current posting direction you will likely end up breaking rule #10

Generally annoying behavior. If you're following all the rules but are still managing through conduct or behavior to annoy a significant portion of the BYOAC membership to the point where the forum as a whole suffers, you will first be asked to modify your conduct and then will possibly be banned.

People in the PnR section were calling me names and breaking rule number 10 far before I admitted what you quoted me on. At that point I was just saying anti-Obama things that they did not like.

[Malenko]

When I put you on ignore, it wont have anything do to with your stance on Obama. I'm pretty sure not all 8 people ignoring you are doing so because of your political views.

Take a step back and look what you have posted on here, I want you to do a SELF AUDIT. I am not counting PnR, but the regular boards. How many of your posts were typed out in an effort to assist a BYOAC member? how many were to buy and or sell an arcade/byoac item? How many helped someone fix a monitor , get a front end working right, or done to assist someone creating some art for their control panel? How many polls have you replied to about what your favorite game is and why?


I sincerely doubt you have a single post like that. I am BEGGING you to prove me wrong. Link me to one so I can see the time stamp of when your first helpful post was. Even tommy was active in other areas of this board, heck even Suits00 posted some positive things in the artwork section!

I dont think your ego could fit on top of Suits00's control panel.

[Ginsu Victim]

At that point I was just saying anti-Obama things that they did not like.

Admission of guilt....again.

[Hemi]

I've been under attack just after making one post in a few other topics. From then on all I have time for it defending the way you guys seem to have taken what I said wrong. After that, it just snowballs, after seeing so many nasty comments, I just get nasty, too. Then I end up looking even more like an ass because I had to defend myself.

At that point I was just saying anti-Obama things that they did not like.

Admission of guilt....again.

I am guilty of not liking Obama and enjoy letting the other side know about it, so? I made a few terrorists jokes about Obama, they could not handle it.

[Ginsu Victim]

Maybe your sentence could be taken two ways. I read it as "at the end of the day, I was intentionally saying things they didn't like".

[CheffoJeffo]

I've been under attack just after making one post in a few other topics. From then on all I have time for it defending the way you guys seem to have taken what I said wrong. After that, it just snowballs, after seeing so many nasty comments, I just get nasty, too. Then I end up looking even more like an ass because I had to defend myself.

I start a thread, some fool comes in and starts making an ass out of himself and I call him an ass a few times, but it was obvious he was being an ass and my thread gets sent to post hell, why? I look around and guys are calling each other all kinds of names left and right all over the place, then I call a guy an ass and all hell breaks loose.

Me posting has almost become a place for asses to come into and show how much of an ass they can be in a thread of mine, the only thing is when I call them on it I'm the bad guy. If Saint wants me out of here then he needs to just do it, judging by his actions...

 

[Ginsu Victim]

Where's that Google translation tool located? I haven't seen the Hemi to Tommy filter.

[Hemi]

Read my 3rd and 4th post on the first page, you tell me what went wrong? Was that stupid comment really deemed necessary by Sommuny?

And this guy Cheffo is not trying to help out the situation, only make it worse. Do something productive with your life Cheffo, jump off a bridge.

[CheffoJeffo]

And this guy Cheffo is not trying to help out the situation, only make it worse. Do something productive with your like Cheffo, jump off a bridge.

Maybe you should take a long walk off a short pier with that comment....

 

[polaris]

Where's that Google translation tool located? I haven't seen the Hemi to Tommy filter.

google is weak in comparison to the mighty fu powers of the zakkistani nation

[CheffoJeffo]

google is weak in comparison to the mighty fu powers of the zakkistani nation

 

 

[Hemi]

And this guy Cheffo is not trying to help out the situation, only make it worse. Do something productive with your like Cheffo, jump off a bridge.

Maybe you should take a long walk off a short pier with that comment....

 

I can find similarities in anything anyone says. We are all people and if you have enough posts to go by, you can make it look however you want.

Do you get some sort of a prize if you make people think I'm your long lost firend? What is the point in this and who would care anyway, Cheffo?

It's pathetic that I have to sit here and respond to some psycho who keeps quoting other users.

[AtomSmasher]

I've been under attack just after making one post in a few other topics. From then on all I have time for it defending the way you guys seem to have taken what I said wrong. After that, it just snowballs, after seeing so many nasty comments, I just get nasty, too. Then I end up looking even more like an ass because I had to defend myself.

Even if that were true, you can't blame your political beliefs for that since I'm sure you consider that is what happened in the Honda thread which went to post hell before you even had access to PnR.

I believe Hoopz summed things up well in a previous thread

You have to earn your stripes sometimes.  In all seriousness and without any nastiness, you have not come across very well in your initial first 100 posts or whatever.  Maybe it's tone or unintentional but even when trying to help you make comments that are nasty/short/bs/snippy or whatever.

[CheffoJeffo]

Do you get some sort of a prize if you make people think I'm your long lost firend? What is the point in this and who would care anyway, Cheffo?

Admittedly, the technique has not yet produced the desired results, but it has proven effective in the past. And it's fun to boot!

It's pathetic that I have to sit here and respond to some psycho who keeps quoting other users.

NO! Now you need to get out of a bad situation and become happy.  

 

[Hemi]

I'm trying to make things better and what you're doing is counter-productive. I'm not really interested in what fun your having at the moment.

[CheffoJeffo]

* CheffoJeffo takes a timeout from tommytime(tm) for a serious post

If you really want to make things better, start by apologizing for the crap you have been spewing about saint. He doesn't need me or anybody else to defend him, but he has done nothing but good here and let you into his sandbox to play. And you crapped in it, then blamed him.

Then, start contributing, stop being such a whiner about people not liking you and be nice.

[Hemi]

If you really want to make things better, start by apologizing for the crap you have been spewing about saint.

Can't do that when I think the situation with me and the PnR section was based on him liking Obama. If I were to say sorry it would be a lie to get you off my back and I cannot do that.

Then, start contributing, stop being such a whiner about people not liking you and be nice.

I was never whining about people not liking me, but I had to explain why I was not contributing and having to defend myself was the reason.

[CheffoJeffo]

Can't do that when I think the situation with me and the PnR section was based on him liking Obama. If I were to say sorry it would be a lie to get you off my back and I cannot do that.

All i can do is state my passion to not lay down and will to be strong, i think i have more then done that in this byoac politics section. I have nothing more to say.

Oh, and you are 100% wrong ... witness the other folks in PnR whose opinions saint doesn't agree with.

[Hemi]

Anyway, the point here is, you do not have to like me, and that's fine, but it is not fair to find my posts and always be there behind me ready to say how I'm about to do the wrong thing an act like an ass before I even begin to post.

[CheffoJeffo]

Anyway, the point here is, you do not have to like me, and that's fine, but it is not fair to find my posts and always be there behind me ready to say how I'm about to do the wrong thing an act like an ass before I even begin to post.

Talk about trampling all over a guys dreams. 

At least I'm not ignoring you ...

 

[Hemi]

At this point, I think I'd prefer it. 

[polaris]

Anyway, the point here is, you do not have to like me, and that's fine, but it is not fair to find my posts and always be there behind me ready to say how I'm about to do the wrong thing an act like an ass before I even begin to post.

Anyway, the point here is, you do not have to like me, and that's fine, but it is not fair to find my posts and always be there behind me ready to say how I'm about to do the wrong thing an act like an ass before I even begin to post.

Talk about trampling all over a guys dreams. 

At least I'm not ignoring you ...

 

1min 28secs , awesome

[CheffoJeffo]

At this point, I think I'd prefer it. 

I was just TRYING to be funny 

EDIT: Got out of sequence, so best include the original quote

[Hemi]

I can see now I'm going to have to ignore YOU so I do not have to look at these "funny" posts any longer. I guess you can continue on with this but with me not being able to see it, it will be worthless. 

Now, deal with being the only guy on the forum the guy with the most users ignoring him chooses to ignore.

[CheffoJeffo]

I can see now I'm going to have to ignore YOU so I do not have to look at these "funny" posts any longer. I guess you can continue on with this but with me not being able to see it, it will be worthless. 

Now, deal with being the only guy on the forum the guy with the most users ignoring him chooses to ignore.

I would like to ignore everyone on this forum and just post in response to my posts, is that possible? 

It'll still be fun for me ...

[polaris]

I can see now I'm going to have to ignore YOU so I do not have to look at these "funny" posts any longer. I guess you can continue on with this but with me not being able to see it, it will be worthless. 

Now, deal with being the only guy on the forum the guy with the most users ignoring him chooses to ignore.

I would like to ignore everyone on this forum and just post in response to my posts, is that possible? 

It'll still be fun for me ...

in accordance with our nations alliance i feel it necessary to quote your every post in retaliation to any censorship attempts


 

[CheffoJeffo]

It's nice to have a good foreign policy.

 

[Ed_McCarron]

But not everyone you're talking about is living in a ---smurfing--- bowl, waiting to be drowned over and over again. The term "gluttons for punishment" comes to mind.

Agreed.  You want to live there?  Knock yourself out.  No insurance for you.  No federal aid for you.  I rank this up with the people that live under volcanoes, the people that live on beaches, and the people that live anywhere else there is inherent danger.

You choose to live there, you deal with the consequences.

On the other hand, if they just backfill the entire citym it won't be under sealevel any more.

[SithMaster]

Well, NO is the city at the mouth of the Mississippi River, and that is why it became a city.  If you look at all of the major cities in the US, they are all based near a body of water.  This is because water was, and still is to this day, one of the best ways to transport goods.  Look at Boston, New York City, Seattle, San Francisco, Oakland, etc.  They are all right on the coast and as a result are some of the more important cities we have. 

NO is also a checkpoint for a lot of goods coming into the US.  Any large cargo that has to go up the Mississippi river to any of the cities along it has to go through New Orleans.  There are still many cargo loads that just can't be shipped any way except by boat.

As for why there are no big cities in Tornado Alley, that's really just a consequence of the terrain out there and not because of tornados.  Again, water sources are the key aspect of a thriving city and there aren't too many major waterways in the middle of the plains.  The only real big one is the Mississippi River and there are PLENTY of major cities right along it.  Cities in the middle of Iowa, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Montana, etc. generally don't exist because there really aren't any reasons for them to be big cities.  A big city develops when the terrain around it is useful, or there is a resource near there that makes it an attractive place to live.  Most of the cities out in the southwest grew rapidly thanks to the discovery of gold and silver and the need for the mining industry.

To say that New Orleans doesn't need to exist is really not something that any of us here on this board can say.  None of us are urban planners and playing SimCity doesn't count.   

I've heard that most of the port cities on the east coast aren't as active in the water transport industry as they used to be specifically New York City.  Anyway I'd like a clarification of your floating city idea.  Will this be the houses that can float if needed or do you want everything to rest on the water constantly?  I only ask because it could make traveling by road difficult.

A good idea might be to limit personal dwellings at the mouth of the river or even prevent them from being built at all.  If that area is so important to maritime activities then just allow commercial, ie shipping related industry, to be near there.  If its business related prevention of asset damage will be more forthcoming.

[Hemi]

N.O has too much history and culture to start to mess with it and destroy it all now. The city has been like this and fine for how many decades now? Just because they get unlucky with a few storms is no reason to start talking about floating cities.

[SithMaster]

N.O has too much history and culture to start to mess with it and destroy it all now. The city has been like this and fine for how many decades now? Just because they get unlucky with a few storms is no reason to start talking about floating cities.

I think the storm destroyed it already.  They can have their culture just move it a few miles inland to prevent the same situation from happening again.  I think its best to actually use the ideas designed to save life and property in any future rebuilding plans.  Seriously just because the city flooded at that level once doesn't mean it won't happen again.  Actually by your argument I can say they shouldn't even build dams and levees to prevent flooding since they ruin the culture and history of the city.

In the end people will build where they shouldn't, have their homes destroyed, get stiffed on the insurance claim, rebuild anyway, repeat.

[ChadTower]

N.O has too much history and culture to start to mess with it and destroy it all now.

So did Pompei.

A few decades means nothing in terms of history.  The US is a very young country on scale of worldwide history.

[ark_ader]

I was day dreaming about underwater cities, and then thought of this guy:



Then it reminds me of someone else who is just as irritating.   

[Ginsu Victim]

We interrupt this thread for a message from Saint

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=84110.0

[scotthh]

At 10am on 8/27, the National Weather Service had issued a hurricane watch for New Orleans. At 4pm on 8/28, the National Hurricane Center was advising that  "SOME LEVEES IN THE GREATER NEW ORLEANS AREA COULD BE OVERTOPPED." The mayor didn't bother to tell people to leave until 10am on 8/28.  The hurricane made landfall in the morning 8/29. I was in South East Florida for some of the 2004 season (Frances and Jeanne). Sure FEMA comes around with some money after the fact, But the protection and clean-up are local. It's amazing that New Orleans could re-elect the completely incompetent Ray Nagin, who's city government deserves the majority of the blame for the loss of life. At least Governor Kathleen Blanco retired. If you had property destroyed on the gulf or Florida coast due to a hurricane, you were most likely entitled to government money. If you choose to rebuild, it shouldn't be the rest of America's responsibility to insure you again. Feel free to  , but I don't want to pay for it.

[scotthh]

Am I the only one who finds this post as offensive as one of Hemi's?

Am I the only one who thinks it's funny that a country that spends hundreds of billions of dollars on a pointless war cannot have the money/will to protect NO properly ?

It would be funny, if it weren't so sad....

O, and here's another thought: What is cheaper in the long run: repairing all the damages again and again or investing in safety to prevent the damages to happen again ?

By the way, there seems to have been a start on improving the situation already:

Arcadis

150 million dollars per year for just this contract.  But that's HALF the cost of the Iraq war PER DAY !!!!!!

http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home

Don't make me laugh....

Perhaps you need to remember your history. Burying your head in the sand and claiming neutrality against murderers doesn't work. After 4 years of occupation and over 200,000 dead Dutch, the US and UK rescued The Netherlands from the Germans.

[CheffoJeffo]

Am I the only one who finds this post as offensive as one of Hemi's?

I didn't find it offensive.

The main point was the relative costs of the two endeavours and was rather insightful.

I actually found the political retort, aside from being slanted and not completely representative of the realities of the time, to be more offensive ... especially since you left out the Canadians!

 

 

[Ginsu Victim]

Am I the only one who finds this post as offensive as one of Hemi's?

Hemi's posts aren't usually offensive, they're more of an assault on better judgement.

[Hemi]

Am I the only one who finds this post as offensive as one of Hemi's?

Hemi's posts aren't usually offensive, they're more of an assault on better judgement.

Now that is offensive. 

[mameotron]

Yeah, 8 democrats who can not stand when I call their candidate a terrorist. This boards politics are so biased it's not funny. They run out a strong McCain supporter when he attacks their beloved terrorist candidate. The site owner is not supposed to base his decisions on HIS political views.

It's obvious you weren't around here for the '04 elections.  You're making yourself look pretty foolish with statements like that.


Hemi, I don't go to the PNR forums anymore, but I can already see you're not handling yourself too well here.  Saint's patience has its limits.