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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #120 on: September 19, 2005, 09:59:52 pm »

I'm sure there are other types of controllers that could plug into it that none of us have even thought of. I can't even imagine what might be on the horizon. At this point I think we're all thinking too conventionally.


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« Reply #121 on: September 20, 2005, 12:26:15 am »

Ok so you could use it as a sword to swing around but can you really imagine it being easy to keep track of pushing buttons to say move around with one hand and swing your sword around with the other?  I certinly think it would be fun to try but untill I see it in action It just sounds like it would be something hard to do.


It seems like it'd be fine to me.  We currently control link with one hand and swing the sword with the other.  We just push a button with our other hand currently. 

You know what would be fun?  A Jedi Knight game.  1st person light saber action.
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« Reply #122 on: September 20, 2005, 12:54:31 am »
Well think about it.

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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #123 on: September 20, 2005, 03:59:13 am »
uggh.....I don't want to play zelda standing up.  Here's how I envision it:

They'll keep the trigger lock that they've used since it was invented for Ocarina of time.  When you're not holding the trigger-lock, which puts you in battle-mode for all you non-zelda players, you will simply swing your sword by pressing the big A button, and perhaps the remote thingy can act as a free-look or something (but I'm thinking you'd want to hold down a button to change it to freelook mode so you wouldn't constantly have to worry about keeping your right hand perfectly still).  But then in battle mode, when the camera locks itself behind you and the screen letterboxes, the sword would move freely, mimicking the movements of the controller, or maybe certain combinations of slashes would trigger special moves that link would perform with spins and jumps and sommersaults, etc. since it's impractical and dangerous to do those things for real in your living room.  And if you hold the A button while you're in battle mode, he'll switch to his shield and you can move that around instead, blocking attacks.

Imagine some of the other weapons that would be fun to use.  The Hook Shot would be perfect...to actually point that little laser dot it uses and pull the trigger to fire.  Talk about immersion.  Or the boomerang could be done with flicks of the arm/wrist and pull the trigger or hit A to release.  You could even control how far you throw it and possibly even the angle, depending on how well that actually translated into the game.  They probably wouldn't want the learning curve to be too steep. 

Or the bow and arrow.....I was about to say that this is one that wouldn't really translate well without two motion controllers (one for the bow and one for the arrow), but how about this:  When the bow is selected link readies an arrow as soon as you pull the trigger on the motion controller.  At that point the free-look is triggered and you actually have to pull the remote backwards, away from the TV, and aim it, and release the trigger to fire.  Jesus, that's brilliant.

The grapling hook from the wind waker, or some kind of whip, Indiana Jones style, would work in obvious and effective ways.

So exciting.  Seriously, every time I think of some game genre it would suck at, I spend like 30 seconds thinking about how the game might be adapted to play with this controller and it sounds superior.  I already mentioned the quarterback helmet cam where you find your man and aim the ball with the motion stick, fire with the trigger, all the while running in whatever direction you want with the analog stick.  Just now I was thinking that stealth action games like Metal Gear and Splinter Cell wouldn't control well.  And maybe they wouldn't, but there are lots of possibilities.  Maybe when you hold the big A button on the remote thingy Sam Fisher will mimick it's orientation.  so if you stand by a wall and put the remote straight up-and-down he will flatten himself against the wall.  And then you can peek out around the corner by slowly tilting the controller at an angle.   The further you tilt it, the better view you get, but the greater your chances of being spotted.  While you're leaning out, if you pull the trigger you can shoot someone.  And if you push the A botton and hold the remote horizontally he will drop flat on the ground, or diagonal would be a crouch.

Fighters are especially tricky, but all it takes is some imagination and creativity.  There is just so much potential.  It would be a terrible waste if this isn't a succes.

I suspect that if I really thought all of these ideas out thoroughly that some of them wouldn't be practical or would create or be hampered by some complication or another.  I'm just whiping these out as they come to me.  Just brainstorming.   I guess my biggest point is simply that for the most part when you think of a game and how it is controlled and think, "Yeah....that can't be done on the Revolution.  What you mean to say is, that can't be done on the Revolution the way it's always been done before[/i]. 

And that's not necessarily a bad thing.
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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #124 on: September 20, 2005, 10:38:41 am »

Fighters are especially tricky, but all it takes is some imagination and creativity. 

The naysayers are all harping about there not being enough buttons for fighters to do the combos and so on. I say you no longer need all those buttons for combos. If you can remember that rotating the stick 3/4 of the way around anti-clockwise while simultaniously pressing A+B will create the SuperMegaDragonFireball Attack then you can remember that an anticlockwise twist of the controller followed by two quick jabs forward will produce the same thing. Again, I say we're all still thinking too inside the box (or control pad if you will). There are uses for this thing that none of us have come up with. Not that I dislike GameOver's curling controller. :)

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« Reply #125 on: September 20, 2005, 11:08:05 am »

I fear button mashers now.

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« Reply #126 on: September 20, 2005, 12:01:29 pm »
Just wait for the lawsuits when some kid put his sister's eye out when he was playing Mario Tennis with that thing.

Speaking of which, tennis and golf should be interesting.
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« Reply #127 on: September 20, 2005, 12:15:04 pm »

Hey, what's wrong with Johnny! 

I think he's having one of those epileptic videogame seizures.

No, wait, he's just trying to play Street Fighter Omega 256 Hyper Uberslpash but he doesn't know the controls.  That's how you button mash now.

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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #128 on: September 20, 2005, 12:53:39 pm »
You guys should take a look at the Atari Age forums. There's a thread on this controller going there. Huge amount of unreasonable anger flying everywhere.

Over a game controller.

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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #129 on: September 20, 2005, 12:56:29 pm »
AtariAge is more uptight than an 85 year old librarian sitting on a cactus.
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« Reply #130 on: September 20, 2005, 01:14:26 pm »
I'm racking my brain and cannot for the life of me figure out what word I can place in Chad's last post that would make sense, and trigger the auto censor.

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edit:  Oh....I figured it out.  I'm retarded.
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« Reply #131 on: September 20, 2005, 01:52:30 pm »
Atari Age used to be a pretty laid back forum, but lately it's got more and more rabid fanboys screaming about why everything (excluding whatever they're into) sucks.

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« Reply #132 on: September 20, 2005, 01:53:50 pm »

That's not lately, it has always been that way.  Until recent years it was all Atari fanboys, though.  Now they have fanboys of all types, which means if you mention anything in any way someone is offended.


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« Reply #133 on: September 20, 2005, 09:35:44 pm »
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You know what would be fun?  A Jedi Knight game.  1st person light saber action.


Hell YESSSSS!!!!! just like Starwars Thrilogy ARCADE... ^.<

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« Reply #134 on: September 21, 2005, 09:15:14 am »

Yeah, your wife standing behind you laughing at you... parties so you can dress up as the light saber kid... and one random vid of some 14 year old with the controller taped to his schlong, slaying enemies with his hardon.

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« Reply #135 on: September 21, 2005, 09:20:01 am »

Yeah, your wife standing behind you laughing at you... parties so you can dress up as the light saber kid... and one random vid of some 14 year old with the controller taped to his schlong, slaying enemies with his hardon.

shhh... but i dont have a wife and im almost as young as that star wars kid, thank you very much... ^.<

we can dream...  ;D

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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #136 on: September 21, 2005, 10:20:46 am »


we can dream...  ;D

As long as your dream does not involve arousal, a roll of tape, and the new Nintendo controller, I'm 100% okay with that. ;D

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« Reply #137 on: September 21, 2005, 10:58:42 am »

He's like 15.  He's probably got a stiffy 80% of the time.

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« Reply #138 on: September 21, 2005, 07:47:37 pm »

He's like 15.  He's probably got a stiffy 80% of the time.

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« Reply #139 on: September 21, 2005, 08:39:06 pm »
I also want to add, Chad... if your just going to sit here and rant about how Stooooopid the Revolutions controller will be, why dont you start a Rant about PS3 having the same control style?, same unchanged genre type of ports?, and or Xbox's 360s success in ridding of buttons and making the controller almost identical to the Controller S?.... and of course all those old but simular games such as halo 3, and countless splinter cells, to come... that pathetic people without the mind or will to try anything new... Tst... GTA... lol

looks like you guys  also have alot to look forward to... sony fans and 360... yup...

                                 
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Good games to come         (Metal Gear: 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)PS3
    That I want...                 (SmashBros: 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)N/R

hmm... maybe then you can wonder why the efort from big companys such as Bungie and others seem to push out sequels to tittles that are only meant to sell consles but only  seem to get less and less thrilling then the originals? (ponders) theres a topic..



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« Reply #140 on: September 21, 2005, 09:21:53 pm »
I keep thinking that I want to reply to this thread somehow....

But I have no damn idea what Otraotaku is talking about.  I can't even comprehend his posts.
first off your and idiot

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« Reply #141 on: September 22, 2005, 02:03:59 am »
yeah, but he's bilingual.
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« Reply #142 on: September 22, 2005, 09:51:43 am »
I also want to add, Chad... if your just going to sit here and rant about how Stooooopid the Revolutions controller will be, why dont you start a Rant about PS3 having the same control style?, same unchanged genre type of ports?,

Because the PS3 could have the worst controller on the planet and I would not care.  I do not intend to buy a PS3.  I do not intend to buy an Xbox 360, either, though there is a slight chance of my buying one of those when they go on clearance in 2010.

BTW, I'm not saying the Revolution's controller is terrible.  I actually think it has some real potential and I have said here at least once that I have faith in Nintendo's ability to innovate.  What I do see here, though, is the potential for at least 150 directions in which we can take these controllers for good, funny material.

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« Reply #143 on: September 22, 2005, 01:35:08 pm »
yeah, but he's bilingual.

Ah, that explains it. :)

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« Reply #144 on: September 22, 2005, 01:47:20 pm »

A lot of people are bilingual.  So?

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« Reply #145 on: September 22, 2005, 02:53:47 pm »
So he probably would not make more sense on these message boards if he wrote a post in mandarin or something, in spite of better grammer whatnot.  It's just a shame to see a person discouraged from trying to communicate in a language they aren't as familiar with.  How else does one get good at it?  It's like saying, "Go away and come back when you can talk like you were born here."
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« Reply #146 on: September 22, 2005, 03:01:09 pm »
So he probably would not make more sense on these message boards if he wrote a post in mandarin or something, in spite of better grammer whatnot.

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« Reply #147 on: September 22, 2005, 03:28:17 pm »
So he probably would not make more sense on these message boards if he wrote a post in mandarin or something, in spite of better grammer whatnot.  It's just a shame to see a person discouraged from trying to communicate in a language they aren't as familiar with.  How else does one get good at it?  It's like saying, "Go away and come back when you can talk like you were born here."

If he had the language skills of most native born Americans, he would be barely literate.  Half the people I graduated high school with can barely read.

lol, no im not bilingual...  (atleast not that i know of?) mutters under breathe, ^.< yes, I am american, but dont know my true origin... maybe german? lol... but I completely agree with that, more than 90% of my school  actually challange the teachers authority rather than chalange their mind....thus their academic abilitys arnt up to par with standards... I blame Rap + celebritys... urban culture etc...Digity Digity....

can you understand this? YOUR HEAD A SPLODE!
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« Reply #148 on: September 22, 2005, 03:29:21 pm »

There was some truth and observation in there somewhere but he lost me at the second digity.

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« Reply #149 on: September 22, 2005, 03:49:33 pm »
LMAO....what can I say?  I tried.
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« Reply #150 on: September 22, 2005, 05:02:56 pm »

There was some truth and observation in there somewhere but he lost me at the second digity.

are you all in on  something i dont know about? cause im not laughing... i thought my post was pretty clear that time...  :P

what can it be!!!! tell me!!!!! arghhhhhhhh!!!!!

are all my posts really that ackward or confusing? i fail to see what i am missing?

maybe my brain needs to be patched up.... its been leaking for a few days now... *cough* COME ON!  ;D


I started another language this summer... do you think thats affecting the way i think/write in my head?

im lost...  ???
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« Reply #151 on: September 22, 2005, 05:36:31 pm »
Well...Otra, periodically there are lines in your post like:

and countless splinter cells, to come... that pathetic people without the mind or will to try anything new... Tst... GTA... lol

It starts out okay, with some strange punctuation, but by the end of the sentence you trailed off into complete unintelligible nonsense.

As for your last part, I think the bit about the head a sploding made perfect sense as a sentence, but Chad probably had a difficult time figuring out how it related to the topic of your post.
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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #152 on: September 22, 2005, 06:22:41 pm »
It starts out okay, with some strange punctuation, but by the end of the sentence you trailed off into complete unintelligible nonsense.


That is pretty much how I feel about the posts I read by Otra.  I'm not knocking you, I"m really not.. its just most times, I don't even know how to respond to you since I can't be certain what your stance even is.

And sometimes your sentences are just nuts :)
first off your and idiot

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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #153 on: September 22, 2005, 07:12:50 pm »
If you've got ten minutes check out this essay

It's a brilliant esasy analysing Nintendo's corporate strategy and how the new Revolution controller fits into that strategy.  It's totally fascinating and you will find lightbulbs going off in your head throughout the essay as you say, "ah ha," to yourself.

It also solidifies for me the belief that this new console is going to be VERY successful.  And even if they aren't the market leaders, per se, they will continue to be very profitable in spite of lagging behind their competitors.  Which is another reason to read it.  You will finally understand how Nintendo stays so profitable while Microsoft sells more and has never made a single cent on Xbox division.
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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #154 on: September 22, 2005, 11:13:42 pm »
Well...Otra, periodically there are lines in your post like:

and countless splinter cells, to come... that pathetic people without the mind or will to try anything new... Tst... GTA... lol

It starts out okay, with some strange punctuation, but by the end of the sentence you trailed off into complete unintelligible nonsense.

As for your last part, I think the bit about the head a sploding made perfect sense as a sentence, but Chad probably had a difficult time figuring out how it related to the topic of your post.
It starts out okay, with some strange punctuation, but by the end of the sentence you trailed off into complete unintelligible nonsense.


That is pretty much how I feel about the posts I read by Otra. I'm not knocking you, I"m really not.. its just most times, I don't even know how to respond to you since I can't be certain what your stance even is.

And sometimes your sentences are just nuts :)


thanks for your guys's insight... lol... ill try to keep the wacky-ness of my posts to a near minimum next time that i post on a serious topic... (to lose the confusion)  sorry...  ;D

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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #155 on: September 22, 2005, 11:54:19 pm »
no posts are serious around here :)

And that was a very interesting read Shmokes.. definitely worth a look
first off your and idiot

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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #156 on: September 23, 2005, 01:29:24 am »
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You will finally understand how Nintendo stays so profitable while Microsoft sells more and has never made a single cent on Xbox division.

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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #157 on: September 23, 2005, 11:13:38 am »
I've been watching the initial reviews of people using hte controller.  They say the tilt technology is pretty sensitive.  And form the demos there's alot of potential with it.  They have been loving the simple Metroid FPS demo.

I can see this controller actually making fishing games fun.

You know how there is neat idea games like Black & White and Darwinia tha tuse gestures.  This will easily be done on this controller.

Plus this controller will be good for genres that have never been good on a console.  You don;t find to many flight sims or RTS games on a system.  That's because the controls for them suck on most consoles.  Moving a cursor around with a previous controller sucked, look at starcraft for the consoles.  With this it will be natural for these types of games.

About nintendo trying to kill Sony and M$.  Not going to happen as Nintendo is obviously going for a different market.
Look at the gamecube, if they were going for the same market as xbox and ps2 it would have dvd playback, surround sound, etc...  No, they kept it simple.  They gear things more towards kids than the core gaming community (which is between the ages of 18-35).
Now, the revloution is the same way.  Backward compatibility with the the cube.  Also ever watch a kid play a video game, he's waving the controller all over the place with the action ont he screen.  So the tilt sensing should come pretty natural.
Also look at the button layouts of the cube and revolution.  Simple, one main button, A, and minor buttons available.

I see some possibilities.  Turn that SOB sideways and fire up a NES emulator.
Actually, that is the purpose of the design.  Remember you can download NES games with the revolution.


BTW, to the original poster, that isn't the real controller you have picced, it's photoshoped.
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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #158 on: September 23, 2005, 11:40:22 am »
If you've got ten minutes check out this essay

It's a brilliant esasy analysing Nintendo's corporate strategy and how the new Revolution controller fits into that strategy.  It's totally fascinating and you will find lightbulbs going off in your head throughout the essay as you say, "ah ha," to yourself.

It also solidifies for me the belief that this new console is going to be VERY successful.  And even if they aren't the market leaders, per se, they will continue to be very profitable in spite of lagging behind their competitors.  Which is another reason to read it.  You will finally understand how Nintendo stays so profitable while Microsoft sells more and has never made a single cent on Xbox division.

There's one thing I didn't like about the article

"Goodbye people on the fringes: The people on the fringes, however, are left out. In the evolution of the RTS genre, there was an interesting offshoot in the form of the Ground Control games. These sported an interesting 3D perspective that was never truly adopted by the mainstream RTS producers. Most players within the identifiable RTS market segment did not enjoy these games and so it was not in the best interest of the game developers to include the innovative features in their designs."

That's not why RTS hasn't changed much.  Many new technologies have been tried for RTS, but frankly the implementations sucked.  Look at WarZone 2100.  It was one of hte first RTS games to be rendered completely in 3D.  However the gameplay totally blowed.  All the units looked alike so it was hard to distinguish them in a crowd.

So it isn't that RTS hasn't changed because people expect and RTS to be 2D, it's because what had been made sucks as a game.  Starcraft is still the best RTS game out there to date. (though I prefer warcraft II).  There hasn't been anything new in game play. 

The new command and conquers are still basically the same thing as usual.

Warcraft III is ok, but it isn't really warcraft.  The whole hero thing made me think it was more of a role playing game with strategy added.  And I am not a big fan of RPGs.

This new controller isn't going to make RTS exciting.  It's just going to make it easier to play RTS games on the revolution.  But what the RTS genre needs is something new and exciting in gameplay but not have the implementation suck.


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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #159 on: September 23, 2005, 11:40:38 am »
Hey sting ray and anyone else complaining about the memory ports look closely at the picture.  There are two separate covers. one for memory ports another for GC ports.