Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)

[Stingray]

That would makes sense wouldn't it?

Duh.

-S

[Hoagie_one]

i dont hate it

[Otraotaku]

I was reading that article this morning, at school...1

i admit i was disouraged, thinking to myself just one thing, "WTF?" but by the time i read the first paragraph down i calmed down and laughed to myself in relief... its going to be great, theres no other easier way to play FPS and including real actions, almost the same road they went with DS isnt it? seems they hyped up my expections...

i am a bit uncertain in one perspective... If i read it correct its "like" a LightGun sensor that attracts the screen for actions? correct?

[JB]

Imagine how strange a three-pronged console controller introducing analog control to console games for the first time must have sounded.....hey....that was Nintendo too. 

Unless the SNES had analog stick controllers I'm not aware of, Sega introduced the analog stick.  The Saturn had it.

N64 introduced them. Though Sega got Nights out first in America, Nintendo premiered it world-wide. Both at game shows and in retail.

...

Well, actually the 5200 introduced analog sticks. But the N64 resurrected it.

Are those memory card slots under the door? If so, why did they place them where they will prevent the door from closing? I guess the thinking is that you would only need one when you're playing 'Cube games so the door would be open anyway. I'm assuming that the Revolution uses a different type of media for game saves. Does it have a hard drive?

-S

Integrated GB of flash RAM. With support for more through CompactFlash connectors, last I heard.

[Todd H]

Iwata addressed concerns people might have about playing retro games on the Revolution's new controller through its virtual console backwards compatibility, saying that classic-styled expansion controllers would be available so people could enjoy the games as they originally remembered them.

So it looks like Nintendo will sell classic controllers compatible with the Revolution.

[Stingray]

Iwata addressed concerns people might have about playing retro games on the Revolution's new controller through its virtual console backwards compatibility, saying that classic-styled expansion controllers would be available so people could enjoy the games as they originally remembered them.

So it looks like Nintendo will sell classic controllers compatible with the Revolution.

If so that's very neat. Suddenly I'm looking forward to the Revolution a lot more. Last couple of generations, Nintendo systems have been my second choice behind Sony. I may make the Revolution my first choice this time.

-S

[ChadTower]

Yay, I can pay $40 for an NES controller that I have 457 of already, only this one works on the Revolution.

[slycrel]

If so that's very neat. Suddenly I'm looking forward to the Revolution a lot more. Last couple of generations, Nintendo systems have been my second choice behind Sony. I may make the Revolution my first choice this time.

-S

I went for the xbox due to Halo last round.

[ChadTower]

Eh, one of the only things that would get me to spend money on this before 2008 would be top quality light gun games, lots of them.

[2600]

Yay, I can pay $40 for an NES controller that I have 457 of already, only this one works on the Revolution.

Damn, I should of asked you before looking on EBAY.  Couldn't find a good controller to save my life.


Back on topic, wonder how long till the controller is hacked and used on a PC?
Scratch that, forgot it was wireless. 

[SirPoonga]

I'd end up breaking the top door off and having a memory card an warebird wireless controllers plugged in all the time

[Stingray]

I don't know about breaking the door off, but I'd have no problem with cutting a couple of holes in the appropriate places so it could stay shut with a controller and a memory card in place.

-S

[MrTroy]

Glad there's more than one of us who thinks this is great. Notice how Ps3 controller looks like a 3rd parth ps2 controller. And how the X360 looks so close to the controller s. Those companies need to evolve. I've never been big on the "Make it pretty and they will buy" a majority of the games I play are 2d. A Majority of the games I wanna make are 2d. Yet these companies are all about "Make 3d prettier"... Glad to see Nintendo is all about gameplay.

I can't wait to try out the new Luigi's Mansion with that thing. It's gonna be sweet. That is if they decide to make it.

Also. There's plenty of ways to add classic games. I'm thinking basically SNES,n64 and the gamecube. Have the same amount of buttons kinda. (If you count the Z button as the Select Button) with the exception of the ds. I see everything being played on it very easily. Ooooh I can't wait.

[Stingray]

Luigi's Mansion would be amazingly cool with that controller. Seems to me that's exactly the kind of thing it was designed for.

-S

[brophog]

I don't know how many people ever used one, but there was a very similiar aftermarket controller for the original Playstation. Like this, it was setup as a remote control apparatus with the gimmick that you operated it with one hand. It wasn't too bad for most games at the time before Dual Shock/analog/two sticks. What made it difficult was when you needed to press more than one button at a time.

That's what makes me a little hesitant on this design. Games have become so oriented with two sticks and several buttons simulaneously (sports games and FPS are good examples).

I'll try to find a picture of this apparatus to post.

[ChadTower]

But what if you could point at the receiver running a deep flag and throw him the ball by tilting the controller forward?

[SirPoonga]

I osuld see using the tilt to "lead" a throw to a receiver.  Or a deke in NHL.

I'm wondering how you'd play a GTA with it, I don't think that owuld be possible. 

[ChadTower]

Tilt would be better used to determine arc and velocity of the throw.  Simple targetting would be how you led the receiver.  That's actually not too different from the way you would do it IRL.

[MajorLag]

Also, I'm pretty sure that Sony is making money hand over fist on the PS2.  They've sold like 100 million worldwide.

Actually, I was wrong about Sony not profiting in the games business. Unlike Microsoft, they are actually making a profit, its just not nearly as much as Nintendo is making. See:



source: http://nintendoinsider.com/site/EEEZuAypVuTuOJPzyb.php 
results confirmed by other sources

That kind of profit is the reason they can innovate like this I guess.

[shmokes]

I'd be interested in seeing Gamecube specific numbers.  I bet they'd tell a MUCH different story.  Now, I'm not saying that the Gamecube is losing money, but I believe that by far the vast bulk of Nintendo's profit come from the Handheld market these days.

[owenowen]

well im sold!


i was planning for the xbox but i looks now like ill definately be going with nintendo!

[versapak]

The controller looks very interesting, but as a specialty controller, not as a system's main controller.

A systems main controller has to be good for a variety of applications, which this one is not.


That thing looks like it would be a great alternative device for a gaming console, similar to something like a steering wheel, a  lightgun or an Eye Toy, and it would be best released as such. I think with that being their main controller, that they will alienate a lot of 3rd party support, as well as a lot of userbase as a result.

[shmokes]

Frankly, I'm sold too.  This is going to sound kinda lame, but I am generally in Chad's position.  I wait for the prices to come down a bit, as I don't have much time for videogames and so there are loads of games for the previous generation systems that I never got around to that I can play until the new systems are more reasonable.

...BUT, this is different.  I REALLY want this thing to succeed.  I was leaning toward PS3 in a couple years, but now I think I'm going to try to jump on this boat just to do my part, so to speak to help bring 3rd parties to the platform to begin with.  Which will bring more consumers.  Which will bring more 3rd parties.  And so on.

It's just one of those things, like Psychonauts.   I steal almost all of my Xbox games.  I download most, and if I want something specific, right now, I just rent it and rip it.  But I want Tim Schaffer to succeed so much that I ordered Psychonauts a few weeks ago, in spite of being so overwhelmed with school and work right now that I haven't even opened it yet.  But I know that sales are low (even though it's apparently a masterpiece).  I wanted to pick it up while it was still full-price and I'm sure that a price drop is in its very near future.

So, anyway, I am so impressed with Nintendo taking this bold step, and I think that it has so much potential, that I'm going to try to jump on this thing at launch.  For any console to be a success, somebody has to do it.  Generally I don't want that somebody to be me, but I'll try to make an exception here.

[shmokes]

The controller looks very interesting, but as a specialty controller, not as a system's main controller.

Herein lies the catch-22.  Nintendo wants to change the way people play games.  They can release it as the main controller, but that alienates 3rd parties so nobody buys the system.  Solution?  Release it as a specialty controller.  But then the controller doesn't get supported by 3rd parties, so nobody owns it, so the way people play games hasn't been changed.  Solution?  Release it as the main controller.  But then.......

You gotta commend them.  They are as aware of the above problem as well as anyone else.  It's an enormous risk.  Most companies wouldn't have done it.  Especially a company the size of Nintendo.

Balls.  Balls.  Balls.

[brophog]

You hit the nail on the head. How do you be innovative and not alienate.

Maybe Nintendo just doesn't care. Seriously. They've been lacking consistent 3rd party support for a while now. NCAA 06 didn't even come out on the Gamecube this year.

It just seems to me that Nintendo is not wanting to compete anymore with the PS3 and XBox360. I think Nintendo feels that it can provide something different for gamers.

[Scott84]

NEW REVOLUTION CONTROLLER SHOT!

Now it makes sense!!

[shmokes]

Wait a minute... what, exactly, makes sense now.  What, for that matter, didn't make sense before?

[JB]

NEW REVOLUTION CONTROLLER SHOT!

Now it makes sense!!

I hate IGN. More than that, I hate the people passing that utterly random render off as an actual product.

[shmokes]

You know what's funny?  I put up a post that said, "That ain't real, get rid of that!"

But then I went to IGN and figured maybe I was wrong.  I still figure that but...

[ChadTower]

That is probably their Gamecube compatible controller.  Next you'll see something like the N64 similar to that one.  They didn't say they were going to rerelease the original controllers, they said they were going to release classic styled controllers for play with classic games.

Shmokes and I are in the same spot here.  We're both very impressed with what Nintendo is doing and I feel that Nintendo has earned the credibility of faith.  I think it will be worth having.  There was a time no one thought a portable that took carts was worthwhile, too.

So long as Sony and Microsoft are in rabid competition to be nearly identical, I'll stick with Nintendo's attempts to be innovative.

[JB]

That is probably their Gamecube compatible controller.

Why? It has GameCube ports for real 'Cube pads when it's in 'Cube mode. The 'Cube side is handled through backwards-compatibility, not emulation. There's not enough power in that box to emu the 'Cube.

And IGN ADMITS that it was a quick photochop and not a real photo of anything.

[ChadTower]

I would not bet on them allowing you to use an actual GC controller rather than altering the pinouts just enough to make you buy a new one.

[JB]

I would not bet on them allowing you to use an actual GC controller rather than altering the pinouts just enough to make you buy a new one.

It's already established FROM NINTENDO that they're there explicitly FOR the use of existing GameCube peripherals on existing GameCube software.

[shmokes]

True that.  They're standard Gamecube ports.

[ChadTower]

Standard PORTS, yes, but no guarantee of 100% compatibility.  I just don't trust it yet.

[JB]

Standard PORTS, yes, but no guarantee of 100% compatibility.  I just don't trust it yet.

They've already SAID they're solely for the use of existing Gamecube peripherals.

That means they're compatible.

[MajorLag]

Standard PORTS, yes, but no guarantee of 100% compatibility.  I just don't trust it yet.

Just how many other ways can you interpret "Standard GameCube controller ports"? Besides, what the hell else would they be used for?

[lcddream]

i want everyone remember this moment when sony and microcash and every 3rd party manufacturer start biting nintendo's ideas....just like every other time.


i think this system is going to kill sony and microsoft not too long after it's out....i think nintendo really has something here.

edit: poor grammar

[ChadTower]

Just how many other ways can you interpret "Standard GameCube controller ports"?

You're probably right, but, legally, that phrase is incomplete and can be interpreted multiple ways.

[versapak]

That is probably their Gamecube compatible controller. Next you'll see something like the N64 similar to that one. They didn't say they were going to rerelease the original controllers, they said they were going to release classic styled controllers for play with classic games.

Shmokes and I are in the same spot here. We're both very impressed with what Nintendo is doing and I feel that Nintendo has earned the credibility of faith. I think it will be worth having. There was a time no one thought a portable that took carts was worthwhile, too.

So long as Sony and Microsoft are in rabid competition to be nearly identical, I'll stick with Nintendo's attempts to be innovative.

Interesting...

Nintendo has actually LOST my faith in their credibility.

i want everyone remember this moment when sony and microcash and every 3rd party manufacturer start biting nintendo's ideas....just like every other time.


i think this system is going to kill sony and microsoft not too long after it's out....i think nintendo really has something here.

Nintendo does have interesting and innovative ideas, but there is no chance in hello that this console will "kill" Sony and Microsoft's consoles, because Nintendo are out of touch with gamers. I appreciate the ideas they come up with, because I love what the competition does when they steal them.

Honestly... I have been very happy with games being made these days, and I am not looking for a "revolution". I am always looking for better quality put into games, and I am looking for more online focus, but I don't need some magical controller that will totally change the way I play games.

People always talk about all the garbage that comes out these days. Tis nothing but old-itis. There is no more crap coming out today than there was 20 years ago. Heck, I'd actually bet that there was more crap coming out 20 years ago, when it was cheaper to produce it. It is just that the new crap titles are still fresh in our minds. After another several years have passed, we will be blessed with the healing of time, and the crap from today will take a backseat in our minds, making way for fond memories of the great titles of this generation.



[EDIT]
As I have already stated... Such an idea is a great idea for a specialty controller. If Nintendo wants their entire system to be the specialty controller, then they can expect it will sell as such.