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Author Topic: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'  (Read 98631 times)

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #320 on: September 20, 2013, 02:24:24 pm »
Just mame it  :laugh2: But seriously how hard are replacement games to find?

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #321 on: September 20, 2013, 02:30:40 pm »
Just mame it  :laugh2: But seriously how hard are replacement games to find?

SW is a difficult one, and they are expensive, a working board set can cost upwards of $250

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #322 on: September 20, 2013, 02:32:47 pm »
Just mame it  :laugh2: But seriously how hard are replacement games to find?

SW is a difficult one, and they are expensive, a working board set can cost upwards of $250

If you can even find a working one...they are few and far between these days.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #323 on: September 20, 2013, 02:37:01 pm »
   Eldorado did a great job on my Enduro racer board....And was resonable.http://eldoradogames.com/
« Last Edit: September 20, 2013, 02:43:14 pm by jennifer »

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #324 on: September 20, 2013, 02:49:08 pm »
   Eldorado did a great job on my Enduro racer board....And was resonable.http://eldoradogames.com/

Thanks Jennifer, I will hit them up.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #325 on: September 20, 2013, 03:06:32 pm »
Knowing me, my wife would come in the garage and just find a pile of ash where I once stood if I was working on that thing.

I have to admit I was NOT a happy puppy adjusting the voltages for the over-volt cutoff circuit. You have to power on the monitor with the HV probe jammed under the anode cup and shorted to the exposed DAG spring/wire. It crackles like a FOTHERMUCKER!!!! Then you have to turn a tiny pot on the HV board, your hand very close to the flyback and other nasties, until the voltage goes all the way up to 25,000V, the higher it goes the more intense the crackling gets from the anode cup. At this point demon voices are coming from the anode saying things like 'Swallow your soul!!!'.

So now you have 25,000V travelling between the anode and that exposed wire on the back of the tube, about 5 inches from your hand.  :-\

Now you have to turn down the cutoff POT until it kills all power to the circuit and the voltmeter drops to zero. Then turn it all off, drop the main voltage pot below 25,000V so it doesn't trip as soon as you turn it on. Then you have to turn it back on and drop the tube voltage all the way down to 19,500V which is where it's supposed to operate at, again while it is all live. At 19,500V the demon voices just sing 'Burninating the Countryside and the THATCHED ROOF COTTAGESSSSSSSS!!!!' so not quite as scary as they were before.

After all that, you have to have enough faith in that probe to actually take hold of it and disconnect it from the anode and DAG circuit of certain death (while the power is off of course).
« Last Edit: September 20, 2013, 05:56:32 pm by Maximus »

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #326 on: September 20, 2013, 03:21:15 pm »
Man, that's the stuff of nightmares. 

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #327 on: September 20, 2013, 03:33:28 pm »
    Sound like Jennifer peeing on the stick. ::)

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #328 on: September 20, 2013, 03:46:26 pm »
That sounds horrible.

Here's some comic relief:


 :cheers:

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #329 on: September 20, 2013, 04:00:22 pm »
OK Eldorado games said they could take the boards in for repair so I'm going to get them off to them next week. Looks like about a month or so turnaround.
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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #330 on: September 20, 2013, 05:51:09 pm »

So now you have 25,000V travelling between the anode and that exposed wire on the back of the tube, about 5 inches from your hand.  :-\


and THAT is why I went into digital electronics instead of following my dad's footsteps in tv repair. 5V logic didn't hurt nearly as much.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #331 on: September 20, 2013, 06:17:22 pm »
So now you have 25,000V travelling between the anode and that exposed wire on the back of the tube, about 5 inches from your hand.  :-\



Yup, that's a whole lotta -nope- on me ever doing that. LCD and rom set it is!


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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #332 on: September 20, 2013, 07:13:56 pm »
Got a real nail biter on your hands there Maximus. This is tantamount to the Eagle landing on the Apollo 11 mission..."One small small step for a kick-butt arcade cab, one giant leap for BYOAC".

You got balls bro, seriously, you got balls and brains. Got my respect no matter if it works or not (but I am praying it does), keep at it  :applaud: .

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #333 on: September 21, 2013, 12:05:33 am »
Winner of the deadliest game of Operation.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #334 on: September 21, 2013, 12:16:58 am »
After a lot of input from some of the KLOV crew and a bunch of testing i am fairly confident in the following assumptions

HV Board works
Deflection board works including spot killer
Tube/yoke/neckboard all work with glow
Power supply works and tests correct
Ar2 works and tests correct
Game boards no worky

No beeps in test mode, no blind play, no video and no audio so the next stage is to get these things repaired.

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Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #335 on: September 21, 2013, 09:38:31 am »
The boards were always suspect. Frustrating? Yes. But overall great results thus far!!!

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #336 on: September 21, 2013, 11:03:38 am »
Screw the boards!  Look what you made!

Oh, and the artwork on your monitor mount is epic.  Stars War.  How'd you get that permanent marker look in that font?

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After a lot of input from some of the KLOV crew and a bunch of testing i am fairly confident in the following assumptions

HV Board works
Deflection board works including spot killer
Tube/yoke/neckboard all work with glow
Power supply works and tests correct
Ar2 works and tests correct
Game boards no worky

No beeps in test mode, no blind play, no video and no audio so the next stage is to get these things repaired.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #337 on: September 21, 2013, 04:41:15 pm »
That's the original Stars War font man, jeeze how could you not know that?

Getting set up at the new house.


Until I get my shed built i will be camping out in the garage for my workspace. Hopefully this will only be for a month or so.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #338 on: September 21, 2013, 05:25:28 pm »
So, how many games did the movers play? 

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That's the original Stars War font man, jeeze how could you not know that?

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Until I get my shed built i will be camping out in the garage for my workspace. Hopefully this will only be for a month or so.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #339 on: September 21, 2013, 05:50:55 pm »
Lol none we haven't  moved yet, a buddy helped me move all this, I'm not letting those monkeys loose on my pride and joy collection

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #340 on: September 21, 2013, 08:40:10 pm »
Yeah, let them move the china and jewelry.   :cheers:
 
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Lol none we haven't  moved yet, a buddy helped me move all this, I'm not letting those monkeys loose on my pride and joy collection

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #341 on: September 23, 2013, 01:21:51 pm »
Onward and upward!!!

I've started a new thread over at KLOV focusing on the game board repair. The Beginner Vs. Star Wars: Ep II 'The Board Wars'. I figured it made more sense to document the classic hardware part of this build in a forum more dedicated to that kind of stuff while giving basic updates in this general build thread. When it comes to the actual design and building of the cabinet then all of that will be focused on here.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #342 on: September 23, 2013, 01:30:04 pm »
I figured it made more sense to document the classic hardware part of this build in a forum more dedicated to that kind of stuff while giving basic updates in this general build thread.

Hold on a second, what's this sticking out of my back?

;)

Seriously though, it's not really that much fun to start reading a thread, and then find out it's migrated to another forum completely. If it were me, I'd start two threads, and update them each at the same time. Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I think that there is an entire community of people right here who are consistently interested in threads started by certain users, and that's just depriving them of their 'fix'.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #343 on: September 23, 2013, 01:42:54 pm »
I think I've done a pretty good job of doing that with the monitor build already, that also had it's own dedicated technical thread over at KLOV but I think I've kept this thread pretty well updated with it's progress too.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #344 on: September 23, 2013, 01:47:57 pm »
Just wondering if you need an ID on KLOV to view threads.  When I click on the link, it's all greyed out.

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I think I've done a pretty good job of doing that with the monitor build already, that also had it's own dedicated technical thread over at KLOV but I think I've kept this thread pretty well updated with it's progress too.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #345 on: September 23, 2013, 01:49:09 pm »
I don't think you do, how do you mean grayed out? That's a bit odd

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #346 on: September 23, 2013, 01:52:34 pm »
Just wondering if you need an ID on KLOV to view threads.  When I click on the link, it's all greyed out.

You need an ID, recommendation from existing KLOV Member, government issued photo ID, credit card number, blood test, first born's footprint, and the soul of a small furry animal - no badgers.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #347 on: September 23, 2013, 01:58:56 pm »
Last post didn't take.   :dunno

Figured it out.  A google survey popped up infront of the site.  Once I answered whether I was or wanted to become a teacher, I could read the post.

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I don't think you do, how do you mean grayed out? That's a bit odd

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #348 on: September 23, 2013, 02:09:43 pm »
I guess they are trying to make a bit of revenue by making non-members take a survey, hrmmmmm, oh well I guess they need to pay their hosting bills somehow.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #349 on: September 23, 2013, 02:36:58 pm »
yeah, no biggie.  It's just in Firefox, the survey stayed at the top of the "page" while I was actually viewing the last post.  When I went back up to the top, the survey was there.

Weird.

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I guess they are trying to make a bit of revenue by making non-members take a survey, hrmmmmm, oh well I guess they need to pay their hosting bills somehow.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #350 on: September 23, 2013, 03:18:30 pm »
You need to copy an existing member's fingerprint with latex to get on board the S.S. KLOV  ;D

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #351 on: September 23, 2013, 04:33:56 pm »
haha what the hell Rick

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #352 on: September 23, 2013, 05:52:50 pm »
haha what the hell Rick

I don't want Maximus to go.

:(

I just returned to the BYOAC after a year or so hiatus, to find some of the previous "every day" Members have left... ...guys that I had read their threads - searched their threads out - daily... ...and I don't like seeing it happen first hand. Now, I know Maximus isn't saying he's moving from here to there, but still. I do read some KLOV threads, and I also read some of our more prolific Members over on VPforums.com as well as on Hyperspin-FE forums, but it's honestly not the same.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #353 on: September 23, 2013, 07:18:09 pm »

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #354 on: September 24, 2013, 06:24:36 am »

:laugh2: :laugh2:
Of all the ribbing Rick has been getting lately in the other posts (I mean seriously, a full page of nothing but dick jokes in the bar-top build post?  :lol ), THIS had me rolling this morning.
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« Reply #355 on: September 24, 2013, 10:02:35 am »
    Ive tried looking @ the Klove, Seems I cant log in or something.... The place is just stupid.

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« Reply #356 on: September 24, 2013, 10:11:47 am »
    Ive tried looking @ the Klove, Seems I cant log in or something.... The place is just stupid.

Go to the top of the page, they have a Google survey for none members. Just click an answer and the greyed out overlay goes away, it's a bit crap I must admit, although when you are logged in it's never an issue.

Currently waiting for my logic probe to arrive before I can start doing basic board tests, also moving house this week so doubtful anything will happen on this for a little while.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #357 on: September 24, 2013, 12:08:10 pm »
     A probe probabbly wont get you very far, unless you know if your looking for a high or low signal, The Shack has a DIY thing I beleive, uses a 555 and a led on a breadboard... A scope would be the right tool for that job.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #358 on: September 24, 2013, 12:14:40 pm »
Yep looking for a decent used scope now but they are a tad pricey

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #359 on: September 24, 2013, 12:16:57 pm »
    Sound like Jennifer peeing on the stick. ::)


That's way scarier than adjusting HV.   :o