csa3d
Trade Count:
( +2)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 822
Will game for food
|
 |
« on: September 08, 2007, 01:02:55 PM » |
|
As I'm searching the boards, getting ready to to drill holes, I find that there's really no central location for this sort of information. If you have reached this thread through a search, and the hole cutting information is not available in the chart below, when you DO find the information, please reply to the thread and include the dimensions for others. If everyone plays along, this thread will be a resource for those wondering how to cut a hole for any control panel component. This thread has been moved to the wiki. Please add/modify entries there. However, feel free to reply to this thread with additions as well. | Component | | Hole Size Required | | Recommended Tool | | Additional Notes |
| |
| |
| |
| | Push Button Holes | | Happs Standard Pushbutton | | 1 1/8" | | Fostner Bit, Hole Saw | | | GGG Electric Ice Pushbutton | | 1 1/8" | | Fostner Bit, Hole Saw | | | Happs Mini Pushbutton | | 1/2" | | Drill Bit | | fits styles A, B, and C | | Leaf Buttons | | 1 5/32 | | Fostner Bit, Hole Saw | | 1 5/32 is perfect but 1 3/16 will work | | Atari Volcano Pushbutton | | 29/64" | | standard drill bit | | | Standard Sanwa/Seimitsu buttons | | 30mm | | | | | Small Sanwa buttons | | 24mm | | | | | | Trackball Center Holes | | Betson 2.25" Trackball (lip exposed) | | 2 1/4" | | Hole Saw | | hole needed for lexan overlay | | Betson 2.25" Trackball (ball exposed only) | | 1 15/16"" | | Hole Saw | | hole needed for lexan overlay | | 3" Happs Trackball Standard (expose lip) | | 3" | | Hole Saw | | Hole needed for lexan overlay
| | 3" Happs Trackball Highball (expose lip) | | 3 1/4" | | Hole Saw | | hole needed for lexan overlay | | 3" Happs Trackball Standard (expose only ball) | | 2 7/8" | | Hole Saw | | hole needed for lexan overlay | | 3" Betson Imperial Trackball (expose lip) | | 2 7/8" | | Hole Saw | | hole needed for lexan overlay | | | Joysticks | | UltraStick360 Joystick | | 1 1/8" | | Fostner Bit, Hole Saw | | Hole needed for stick to poke up through bottom mount | | Suzo (STC) 500 Joystick | | 1 3/4" & 1 1/8" holes | | Fostner Bit, Hole Saw | | Holes needed for stick to poke up through bottom mount. Installation Details | | | Spinners | | SlickStick Tornado Spinner | | 3/8" | | Drill Bit | | only shaft pokes out | | GGG TurboTwist 2 Spinner | | 1 1/8" | | Fostner Bit, Hole Saw | | fits in a standard button hole |
-csa
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: July 16, 2008, 09:49:37 PM by csa3d »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
csa3d
Trade Count:
( +2)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 822
Will game for food
|
 |
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2007, 09:36:39 AM » |
|
Can someone with trackball knowledge help fill this out with me? I find this topic in particular to be quite confusing, as there are a billion ways to mount this stuff. I'm particularly interested in describing the hole sizes using various trackballs, different STYLE balls, and differences using a plate vs. flush mounting in wood or plexi.
Thanks!
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
miles2912
Trade Count:
( 0)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 684
My first Home Game. Fairchild System F.
|
 |
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2007, 05:10:19 PM » |
|
For the trackballs you will need a router (if you want the plate mounted flush) and a jigsaw to cut out hole. The hole is usually a funky shape. Not a hole saw. See pic 
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Scratch built upright MAME Cab
|
|
|
csa3d
Trade Count:
( +2)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 822
Will game for food
|
 |
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2007, 02:10:37 AM » |
|
For the trackballs you will need a router (if you want the plate mounted flush) and a jigsaw to cut out hole. The hole is usually a funky shape. Not a hole saw.
I suppose I was thinking that you'd put Plexi over the plate, and need to cut a hole in the plexi to cover it. I suppose this could be another entry for this type of mounting.. how would you reword the above info? Also, got any measurement specifics to go along with that? I will be the first to admit, this thread chart is gonna be a team effort. I'm not hole cutting master  -csa
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
scotthh
Trade Count:
( 0)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 248
|
 |
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2007, 01:02:11 PM » |
|
Happ 3" trackball holes: If you plan on exposing the lip, it's 2.99" for a high-lip or regular trackball. It's 3.24" for a high ball. See the exploded diagrams I linked to. If you plan on only exposing the ball, it depends on the thickness of the material between the trackball and the top of the CP.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
csa3d
Trade Count:
( +2)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 822
Will game for food
|
 |
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2007, 07:49:53 AM » |
|
Updates: - Added dimensions for leaf button according to Whammoed- Changed trackball entries for clarification Comments and additions welcome -csa
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: September 14, 2007, 07:51:37 AM by csa3d »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
csa3d
Trade Count:
( +2)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 822
Will game for food
|
 |
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2007, 07:52:07 AM » |
|
Updated Happs miniature pushbutton as verified by psychotec
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
csa3d
Trade Count:
( +2)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 822
Will game for food
|
 |
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2007, 01:23:09 PM » |
|
Updated Betson 2.25" trackball as measured off mine.
-csa
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
WCBoudreaux
Trade Count:
( +5)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 202
|
 |
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2007, 02:45:27 PM » |
|
Hey, great idea!
Atari Cone Switches are going to be 29/64"... That's what size drill bit fits tightly in my Original Space Ace control panel holes... Hope that helps...
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Kajoq
Trade Count:
( +2)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 282
|
 |
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2007, 07:32:08 PM » |
|
For completion sake - Standard sanwa/seimitsu buttons have a 30mm hole and the small sanwas are 24mm
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
csa3d
Trade Count:
( +2)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 822
Will game for food
|
 |
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2007, 12:59:53 PM » |
|
Updated Chart: - Sanwa standard pushbutton sizes - Sanwa small pushbutton sizes - Atari Volcano pushbutton sizes
Thanks all for additional input, feel free to add more info
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Kangum
Trade Count:
( 0)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 356
|
 |
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2007, 02:39:24 AM » |
|
tag for later
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
stace
Trade Count:
( 0)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 109
|
 |
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2007, 10:11:09 AM » |
|
Guys, What size hole do I need for a Happ Competition (Assuming I mount it under the cp) ? 1 1/8 ? Thanks Stace 
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
csa3d
Trade Count:
( +2)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 822
Will game for food
|
 |
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2007, 12:51:30 PM » |
|
I did some searching, and didn't see anything specifically going against the 1 1/8" hole rule for bottom mounting a Happs Super. Maybe someone who's mounted one this way could confirm however. btw - I have updated the above chart to include Suzo 500's during my search efforts to help you out. *Edit* Check this thread and this thread out. I think it sounds like 1 1/8" is what you're after, assuming you're not putting lexan over top of the CP. Can someone again, confirm? -csa
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: November 08, 2007, 01:02:50 PM by csa3d »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
stace
Trade Count:
( 0)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 109
|
 |
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2007, 01:36:06 PM » |
|
Thanks,
No plexi over the top. CP will be covered in a layout from mame marquees and my understanding is they're 'man' enough to not need covering ?!?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
gatordad
Trade Count:
( +5)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 588
This is your brain on games.
|
 |
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2007, 03:20:11 PM » |
|
Great Idea  Should be stickyfied for reference.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
ArtsNFartsNCrafts
Trade Count:
( 0)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 220
|
 |
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2007, 08:17:07 PM » |
|
If anyone has info on drilling the hole for the magstik, it'd be much appreciated!
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
TeamTEOR
Trade Count:
( 0)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 120
Off to the Edge of Reality
|
 |
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2007, 04:49:59 AM » |
|
Great info here guys. Thanks! Tom
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
ArtsNFartsNCrafts
Trade Count:
( 0)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 220
|
 |
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2007, 05:34:47 PM » |
|
Thanks guys! I used the info I found in this thread to drill my control panel last night. Worked like a charm! I loaded up a 1 1/8" spade bit and it drilled through effortlessly.
I also made the hole for my joystick 1 1/8". I sort of just went with my gut on what size to drill, given the very short throw of the magstik plus. It's being undermounted on 3/4" plywood..
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
jpenguin
Trade Count:
( 0)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 36
|
 |
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2007, 03:13:48 PM » |
|
Great lisst, I'l post it on my website. I have one more tp add:
Happ Sub-Miniature Pushbuttons 5/16''
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
jpenguin
Trade Count:
( 0)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 36
|
 |
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2007, 03:22:13 PM » |
|
Thanks guys! I used the info I found in this thread to drill my control panel last night. Worked like a charm! I loaded up a 1 1/8" spade bit and it drilled through effortlessly.
I also made the hole for my joystick 1 1/8". I sort of just went with my gut on what size to drill, given the very short throw of the magstik plus. It's being undermounted on 3/4" plywood..
3/4''! Man,, I hope you routed soome of that wood out. i DID AN UNDER PANEL MOUNTING FOR MY mAGsTIK+, BUT THE WOOD IS ONLY 1/4'' SpRRy fOr The ToGgLe CaSE I HATE CAPS-L0OCK
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
FhM
Trade Count:
( 0)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 71
|
 |
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2008, 05:52:43 PM » |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
fixedpigs
Trade Count:
( 0)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 604
warning: drew can't handle my avatar...
|
 |
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2008, 06:33:46 PM » |
|
nicely done... 
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
csa3d
Trade Count:
( +2)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 822
Will game for food
|
 |
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2008, 09:17:20 AM » |
|
awesome! I was hoping it would end up there. That way, anyone can edit it and I don't have to watch over it so closely. Thanks again! -csa
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
ArtsNFartsNCrafts
Trade Count:
( 0)
Full Member
 
Offline
Posts: 220
|
 |
« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2008, 04:50:26 PM » |
|
Thanks guys! I used the info I found in this thread to drill my control panel last night. Worked like a charm! I loaded up a 1 1/8" spade bit and it drilled through effortlessly.
I also made the hole for my joystick 1 1/8". I sort of just went with my gut on what size to drill, given the very short throw of the magstik plus. It's being undermounted on 3/4" plywood..
3/4''! Man,, I hope you routed soome of that wood out. i DID AN UNDER PANEL MOUNTING FOR MY mAGsTIK+, BUT THE WOOD IS ONLY 1/4'' SpRRy fOr The ToGgLe CaSE I HATE CAPS-L0OCK Nope. it's really the perfect height, given that it's dedicated to playing vertical games on one end of a cocktail machine.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|