Jukebox & Pinball - Wash & Go

[psychotech]

Me too

Couple of scratch builds done but still new to this part of the forums.. Well, anyway, here goes:

A simple, small jukebox project ..with a twist. A jukebox, but also a pinball and a MAME machine. Tabletop, bartop or wallmount...

Very much W.I.P. at the moment. Here's a picture taken a couple of hours ago..



And the actual/main thread is @ http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=67842.0

All comments/ideas/criticism welcome

psychotech

[psychotech]

A couple of months later..

DONE.





See the main thread @ http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=67842.0

psychotech

[Biscuit]

Let me add my slobber to the collective puddle of drool. 

Awesome work.  But, you didn't need me to tell you that, did you?   

[Barry Barcrest]

Just read through your thred dude, that's one awsome cab. Personally i would have prefered touchscreen (You do know you can get the ones that mount behind perspex right?). Either way it's an amazing piece of kit...

[Chris]

That is slick beyond words.

[psychotech]

Ugh!?

Thank you guys, you're all too kind!

Biscuit: Never enough But, seriously ..where's your thread?

Barcrest: Thanks! But, it's still a budget build (Like all my builds..) All PC components for about $90 .. Touchscreen? I'm an old fashioned guy, so pushbuttons are a must and hey, there's also the remote controller -> Full controll of everything sans Pac-Man (Look Ma, no hands !!!).  Maybe on my next build.. Still, You're doing some really awesome stuff

Chris: Thank U so very much! Bombjack (BJ on the sig) rocks on DOSCab!!



Well.. anyway Thanx to you all !!

psychotech

[csa3d]

Those mini pushbuttons you used... were they Happ Miniature Momentary
Contact Pushbuttons, "A" Style?  Also, what did you use to punch those holes.. 1/2" drillbit?

thanks
-csa

[psychotech]

Hello!

csa3d: Thanks. That is actually the best question yet regarding the miniature buttons. Others have asked the same question on the Bombjack & the Pinbox threads, but you're the first to actually show any real "possibles". Anyway, after taking a quick look at the info on the HAPP page..

Seems to be an exact match!

I actually bought these mini buttons from here (in Finland): (PDF link) http://www.spelektroniikka.fi/kuvat/51.pdf ... A bit more expensive, but at least they have an assortment of colors to choose from

Yes, made the holes with just the average 12mm (1/2") drillbit.

Mind if I relay the button info on the Pinbox thread (quoting your question, etc..) ?


Good luck with your build(s) 

psychotech

[alpine944]

Awesome project !!   That overlay is fantastic..... any chance of sharing that to the * no photoshop skills * peasants ?   

[psychotech]

Thanks.

Awesome project !!   That overlay is fantastic..... any chance of sharing that to the * no photoshop skills * peasants ?   

Yes, of course! I would if I could and was sure I should. But as it is, if you really were a * no photoshop skills * peasant, that PSD wouldn't help you too much..

In all its simplicity the overlay is made of about 120 layers, most of which have quite intricate combinations of effects going in, on and between them.

And, as this layout won't fit but this exact design, I'm sure you're able to create a much better solution for your original juke...

Good luck 

psychotech

[alpine944]

I guess I should have said, I don't have the skills as you, but I'm quite familiar with .psds and photoshop.  That said, I was just hoping to get a better look at how it was created. 

No worries !!  Great stuff.

[ptpeter]

hey, where did you get that plus pad? thats way better than using a joystick. That's a really awesome juke dude!!

[Space Fractal]

http://www.arcadeshop.de have them. They would also work on my software as well SkJukebox (which is used here).

http://www.arcadeshop.de/Joysticks-Thumbstick-yellow_452.html

[psychotech]

Thanks ptpeter!

Sorry, haven't been too active on the forums lately..

But, just like Space Fractal told you (Good stuff SF  ), I bought the thumbstick from arcadeshop.de - and now it's actually in the bargain bin.. 5,99Euros instead of 8,95Euros.

Works like a charm with the jukebox/pinball MaLa FE Usable on your basic 2/4-way games too.

Good luck with all your builds 

psychotech

[psychotech]

Sorry.

(Actually, I am most sorry for not being sorry.. )

Updated ..well, nothing. So I really had to bump this thread because... Did I say sorry already?

Oh.. Random play.. and another BEER 

Cheers !

psychotech

[quarterback]

Holy crap this is hot!   Great work 


I love the thumbpad/thumbstick idea.    Anybody know of someplace in the US that these can be picked up?

Also, what about Nintendo64 thumbsticks?  They seem to be all over ebay but seem to have some kind of harness.  Anybody know if they're just an 8-way joystick that could be used for something like this?  They seem to have six wires coming out of them.  Or are they actually analog? (I'm not an N64 owner)

[Space Fractal]

They are analog stick and this type of stick was first used on Nintendo 64.

[quarterback]

Thanks SpaceFractal,

So what is the search term I should be using?  "thumbstick" comes up with a bunch of those that I mentioned in my last post and I couldn't find much of anything searching for "plus pad", but don't other console gaming controls have thumb-joysticks like the one psychotech is using?  If so, then replacement parts must be available somewhere.   I'm just trying to find an alternate source (and maybe alternate color) from the one that psychotech uses which are available at http://www.arcadeshop.de

Thanks

[psychotech]

Hello..

quarterback

Thanks for the kind words!

Can't help with the thumbstick problem, sorry. Arcadeshop is the only place where I've seen those thumbsticks (with microswitches) so far..

Actually, how much would it cost if you ordered one from http://www.arcadeshop.de ? Did you go "far enough" with your order to see the actual amount they quoted including shipping fees etc.?

Anyway, that thumbstick/-joystick you posted a picture of (Nintendo 64) seems to be of the kind that could be quite easily incorporated into.. yeah, another future project Analog yes, but might work anyway ..Star Wars with a thumbstick controller 

Keep on gaming, building, etc. 

psychotech

[quarterback]

I just hopped back in here because I saw that there was a new post (yours) and, I swear, I look at that first post and I'm blown away all over again.   If I had seen this thread before I had bought my touchscreen, I probably wouldn't have bought it.  Your design and art is so freakin cool that it makes me want to have a row of buttons on my juke instead of using a touch screen.

Damn you and your mad skillz!   

Hello..

quarterback

Thanks for the kind words!

Can't help with the thumbstick problem, sorry. Arcadeshop is the only place where I've seen those thumbsticks (with microswitches) so far..

Actually, how much would it cost if you ordered one from http://www.arcadeshop.de ? Did you go "far enough" with your order to see the actual amount they quoted including shipping fees etc.?

Anyway, that thumbstick/-joystick you posted a picture of (Nintendo 64) seems to be of the kind that could be quite easily incorporated into.. yeah, another future project Analog yes, but might work anyway ..Star Wars with a thumbstick controller 

Keep on gaming, building, etc. 

psychotech

[Spaced Ace]

Dude....  Sweet!

[Encryptor]

psychotech,

Sweet project!!!

I looked through the threads but I didn't see what jukebox software you are using. Which one is it?


Encryptor

[Space Fractal]

Sk-Jukebox.

[psychotech]

Sorry, I've been (way) away, but anyway..

quarterback:
Again, thanks for the appreciation ..very much appreciated

makes me want to have a row of buttons on my juke instead of using a touch screen.

- Well.. I'm cheap ..and I like to push real buttons! Then again, is there a reason for you to not use both the touchscreen and buttons..? If I'd had a ts-panel when I designed / built this jukebox I'd probably added the same selection buttons, anyway! Just for that good ole jukebox feel = 

Spaced Ace:
Whell.. Thanks!

Encryptor:
Thank you! And even though Space Fractal already seems to have answered your question: I'm using SK-Jukebox.

Space Fractal:
Thanks ..for the answer ..and for checking out the thread ..and for a great jukebox software ..U know what I mean Nice skins/layouts lately 

Build on..

psychotech

[Space Fractal]

Since my next version of MultiJuke can might look more close to Sk-Jukebox from version 1.10, due the background can been completely blacked out (but otherwice no real changes in the gui it self, so it still present diffencent), I have to ask which buttons you really use to Sk-Jukebox (I can't read on all labels you using)?

To been sad this great software is discounted, which still have few bugs left (my favourite competer software).

[psychotech]

Space Fractal

I'm not @ home at the moment, but the buttons (in addition to the numerics, quite a few of which also have additional "shifted" duty..) are: (Looking at the 1st picture of the second post on this thread..)

Anyway, this is "my setup" - can't remember if I changed something in the SKJ ini or not... Anyway:

SK-Jukebox:
Main control buttons (and their Shift/Shazaaam!'d functions..):

CTRL - Random (Fast Forward) ...
ALT - Pause (Quit) - As play commences as soon as a song is selected.. Pause/Play
SPACE - Delete (Rewind) - Remove last selected number(s), etc.
LSHIFT - Enter (Jump)

4-way thumbstick (right):
- Next Screen
- Previous Screen
- Jump Back Letter
- Jump Ahead Letter

The thumbstick is "the joystick", so, no shifted controls..

Hope this helps..?

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For more info check out the project announcements thread at http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=67842.0
- better pix in the near future?

still psycho....

PS. Eagerly waiting for the (next version of) Multijuke

PPS. Don't get me wrong, looks awesome at the moment ..it's just that I'm an old ass. I'll convert as soon as ....

psychotech

[Space Fractal]

Thanks.

I do still like how you integrated the software into your cab (and yes, I do really like Sk-Jukebox). You might want to stick with it, even its discounted.

I do not have Fast Forward, Rewind, Delete (might called Remove in MultiJuke) or Video support in my software. I think I see I can add them (unless video, due its a BlitzMax limit and It's a OpenGL application).

I assume Jump is the Song Skip or Jump to the selected album (both is in MultiJuke)? There is no second screen to show the current selected album, since it was not needed here.

For the Joystick I have no of these functions, since its simply just scroll trough albums instead of flipping. I do look if A can add a Letter Jump feature in its Jukebox GUI version (but now, it scroll the song text faster/slower up/down instead)...

PS. The screen shots is from the coming soon v1.10.

[psychotech]

Hi.

I assume Jump is the Song Skip or Jump to the selected album (both is in MultiJuke)?

Actually... The Jump button opens a window where you can select a number or a letter to jump straight to.. (Enter confirms the jump destination...) Pressing the Jump Ahead Letter or Jump Back Letter buttons repeatedly does essentially the same job.......

PS. The screen shots is from the coming soon v1.10.

Looking good! I'll have to test it someday soon ..before I start my next build, definitely.

[Space Fractal]

Thanks.

Im not sure I add Jump, Jump Ahead Letter, Jump Back Letter in my software, due to the alternative GUI (I dedicated not to copy SK-Jukebox 100%), and you have access to most user features using Album or Song (singles) 00 as option....

I did add Fast Forward (only Windows), Fast Rewind (only Windows), Delete functions, so I think a release is soon. Now it turn to get these to work in Linux as well.


Otherwice I want such of this unit myself (just using a spinner instead)  as a dedicated Jukebox (but nice compo). But Im are not a wood worker. I do really like your little bartop too on your homepage.

[psychotech]

!

Yeah, another obviously unnecessary bump for an old thread

Still, WtFC?

Well, I've been away from the forum too much lately, so:

Space Fractal: Thanks 2 U 2.

So, how's the development going, and have you actually built the jukebox? (IE. link to the thread would be really appreciated.. )

I'm just starting to design another (at the moment, no touchscreen) jukebox and was wondering if I'd use your solution and expertise this time around..

Whatever, it's just psychotech calling...

[Space Fractal]

Just look at my signature. The lastest version of MultiJuke is version 1.12 for windows and 1.11.2 for Linux and you can get it from www.multijuke.com.

I'm are currently development version 2.0, where MultiJuke is renamed to MultiFE (which also have some cocktail features). So there is no update currently, which I guess it released somewhere in July (MultiFE also).

MultiFE would been released both for Linux and Windows.

I do never build any Jukebox cabinet, and MultiJukewas really designed to use in my Mame Cab (Arcade GUI mode), but have added two other interfaces as well (Jukebox GUI and Touchscreen GUI). I guess you should use Jukebox GUI to have a simular felling of the excellent Sk-Jukebox.

[Space Fractal]

I have today just added a speciel Arcade/Jukebox GUI combo for machines like yours. When using a rotate button, it turns 180 to either Jukebox and Arcade mode. The only missing is "mirror" the pl1 joypad when rotated if only one joystick is used.

If you plans to use 2 joysticks (one on each side), then the rotate button is not needed, since it just rotate automatic when other joystick/buttons is touched.

MultiFE do not support videos directly (only CDG), due the BlitzMax limit, but plans to support command line applications as well.

[psychotech]

Thanks for all the info Space Fractal

I won't be building another Pinbox/Jukeball but at the moment am rather trying to come up with another fresh design idea for a small jukebox (just a plain jukebox).. and this time around I'll probably go with your software as it really seems to be quite great I'll download and test the latest build before deciding anything.. Comments etc. later, do not hold your breath 

Anyway, another different juke on the drawing board..

Direct support for video is no problem either at the moment as I'll design and build the jbox anyway just for the sheer fun of designing, building, customising, learning, etc. ..and if you'll add support for "command line applications" later on, that shouldn't be a problem anyway.

Thanks again. We'll see if this potential project ever comes to life 

Back later.

[Space Fractal]

that is upto you, what you dedicated to use. If you use example DWJukebox or VMJ, do that.

Im still codning. There is some bugs in the lastest version as well, that is fixed. But none of them is a stopper.