Slik Stik - Any Word

[patrickl]

I guess Mameroom already forked over the $2 mil 

BTW SlikStik did have some innovations. The stainless steel joysticks, lighted ball top joysticks, the SlikStik spinner (it was state of the art for quite a few years), the Spintrak and their spinner tops still have no match.

[FrizzleFried]

I guess Mameroom already forked over the $2 mil 

BTW SlikStik did have some innovations. The stainless steel joysticks, lighted ball top joysticks, the SlikStik spinner (it was state of the art for quite a few years), the Spintrak and their spinner tops still have no match.

Dunno about the tops,  but GGG's spinner is a better spinner...

[Fozzy The Bear]

I guess Mameroom already forked over the $2 mil 
BTW SlikStik did have some innovations. The stainless steel joysticks, lighted ball top joysticks, the SlikStik spinner (it was state of the art for quite a few years), the Spintrak and their spinner tops still have no match.

Dunno about the tops,  but GGG's spinner is a better spinner...

It most certainly is..... and I didn't say that they didn't have any innovations..... But they claimed to have INVENTIONS, that they are the sole manufacturer of.... I can't see anything that can't be copied or isn't already being supplied by somebody else. So in terms of an investment opportunity they got exactly diddly squat, in a very small market place.

So what did they do....
Their buttons and sticks and trackballs were made by HAPP and Betson
Their spinner interface and keyboard interface were Ultimarc
Their Overlays were MameMarquees
And I'll take bets that they didn't even make the Spinner itself.

So at the end of the day they made some nice wooden boxes to put it all in! Some invention! and still they couldn't get their act together to deliver the damned things.
 
Not to mention the fact that they've clearly fabricated their turnover figures.... Any investor with that sort of money to put in is just going to have a fit of laughing at them.    Watch!!     See!! 

We're well rid of these clowns.... It's just a pitty that so many people have suffered as a result of them.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[Tiger-Heli]

Here's another odd thing to note.... The business analysis site lists their gross turnover as $280,000..... They on the other hand are asking for $2 Mil and on the same page stating their gross turnover is in excess of $1 Mil...  Wonder who's telling the truth here.

$1 Mil in orders received and $280,000 in orders delivered.  It all adds up ...

[Shidoen]

To answer the question of what I did.  I went to my bank and had them reverse the ATM/Credit Card transaction.  It took two times to get it right, since Christian tried it right back after being paid through paypal.  But it worked out just fine after a prearbitration letter was sent and a slight suggestion I would initiate a Federal wire fraud investigation if I did not get the $2200.00+ back through my request from the bank.

To comment of SlikStik inventions.  Another item Christian stated he had finished was a new trackball.  I have seen the digital pictures of it but never seen it in action.

Ken

[Gazpacho]

Has anybody tried any of the phone numbers provided above yet?
I'd be particularly curious which ones work and which don't.
I'd also be curious as to the reactions these people have to
being contacted at home.  :-)

[FrizzleFried]

"Hello,

My name is Joe Blow,  I work for a local newspaper called the Arcade Times that is doing a story on arcade scams on the internet.  We've been keeping track of your company and are in the process of writing an all inclusive article on your business practices and before we go to press we were wondering if you had any comment?"

[Fozzy The Bear]

But it worked out just fine after a prearbitration letter was sent and a slight suggestion I would initiate a Federal wire fraud investigation if I did not get the $2200.00+ back through my request from the bank.

Well done Ken,
                             It's nice to see somebody got their money back out of him, especially as it was that much. Even if it did take a threat of reporting it as a serious crime, to get it. It's nice to see at least one happy ending, even if it wasn't one actually created by SickSlick doing the right thing.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[Circo]

I have never figured out how they didn't make money?? Their cabs were not exactly cheap.  Although I was happy with my purchase but it was a long time ago.

[Fozzy The Bear]

I have never figured out how they didn't make money?? Their cabs were not exactly cheap.  Although I was happy with my purchase but it was a long time ago.

Because a business needs a market..... This is in reality a very small market place. A business with 5 employees has more overheads than you think. A single person running it in his spare time might just scrape through, but not something this size.  In any case, the history of this hobby is littered with people who thought they could make money out of building cabinet kits and parts. Very very few have actually managed that, unless it's on the back of another business.

Look at it this way.... Groovy Game Gear is run by Randy and his Other Half. Even he doesn't make the sort of money that buys Rolls Royce cars and Swimming Pools from it.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[hohlraum]

got the first slikstik via mameroom.com i think    posted about it in this thread.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=74194.0

[DrWho]

8 weeks without a peep.

My bank is clueless on the dispute too.  Everytime I call them, they say they'll look into it and call me back.  Never hear from them either.

I ordered another panel from arcadesrfun, hoping to get it before christmas, but not sure.  So, now I'm out $1500 with no panel.  Has anyone emailed Mameroom to see if there order was bought by them?

I'll probably wind up with 2 in Janurary.

 

[Havok]

So who's selling this? And I wonder if the trackball shortage is affecting his delivery of spinners???

Ebay Auction

On a separate note: just got my GGG TT2 spinner, it's like butta! The thing feels bulletproof...

[hsstie]

yea, sure is funny the seller is from new jersey just like slikstick

hmmm.....

[HaRuMaN]

yea, sure is funny the seller is from new jersey just like slikstick

hmmm.....

Mascari, Jerome
Job title:
Owner

Company:
Slikstik LLC

That ebay auction IS from SlikStik, lol.

[Gehrig]

Wow.  Look at the last 2 feedback responses left for that seller. 


"SCAM! no responce 3 emails 2 fon calls. In dispute. ordered 1Nov. DO NOT BUY!!"

"prchsed 7/23 still no item. no rspnse frm email or phn the lst 3 wks. DON'T BUY"

[Gazpacho]

On a whim, I posed a question to this guy's eBay account, wondering
how quickly it would ship if I were to buy it.  I asked on Saturday, and
he replied...

If you purchase that item directly from our website (the cost is $5.00 more), it will ship on Monday and you will have it way before Christmas.

So, being the stinker that I am, I then wrote back the following...

That's excellent news.
But now I'm curious and confused.

How come when I ordered the exact same thing directly from your web
site, as you suggested, I never heard back from you?  I left voice
mails, sent e-mails... all without a reply.  You didn't even acknowledge
my direct and clear request to have the original order canceled after
weeks of inactivity on your side.

Yet... you're now offering the exact same thing on eBay, and saying
that it would ship within a day or two.

Please explain.

[shardian]

On a whim, I posed a question to this guy's eBay account, wondering
how quickly it would ship if I were to buy it.  I asked on Saturday, and
he replied...

If you purchase that item directly from our website (the cost is $5.00 more), it will ship on Monday and you will have it way before Christmas.

So, being the stinker that I am, I then wrote back the following...

That's excellent news.
But now I'm curious and confused.

How come when I ordered the exact same thing directly from your web
site, as you suggested, I never heard back from you?  I left voice
mails, sent e-mails... all without a reply.  You didn't even acknowledge
my direct and clear request to have the original order canceled after
weeks of inactivity on your side.

Yet... you're now offering the exact same thing on eBay, and saying
that it would ship within a day or two.

Please explain.

[Gazpacho]

Hey!  Guess what!

I've not received any reply or reaction to my note.
(No surprise there)

[Orclord]

Heads up for a post on the Hardware forum over at MW.....

http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=134292&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

For those that are not registered....

Okay guys--I guess I've lost $2500. I hope I can just save someone else from making the same mistake.

I have not gotten a phone call from Slikstik since the last one I discussed in the forums above (back in July), despite leaving numerous messages requesting for them to call me back. I have also e-mailed numerous times, and have no received a response since they last updated me (which required me to have a friend who lives in New Jersey to drive by their shop). Supposedly, this whole delay has been due to a backordered trackball, yet on this last update the trackballs had finally arrived, and now it is supposedly the overlay. I have no idea why--after months of waiting for a trackball--they didn't use some of my $2500 to go ahead and have everything else ready (as they promised in several e-mails. One stated specifically that my order would ship the day after they received the trackballs).

I have filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau, and they have not heard back from Slikstik. I have filed a complaint with the Nutley, New Jersey Division of Consumer Protection. The head of the department, AnnMarie Nicolette, got a prompt callback from Christian Stango (Slikstik owner), who informed her that he had no idea I had been trying to contact him, etc., etc. I then forwarded her every single e-mail I had from Slikstik that directly refuted his statements to her (in other words, he directly lied to her). She confronted him with this, and since she has not had a phone call returned from Slikstik. Furthermore, Slikstik had its New Jersey business license (license #0600171819) revoked on January 16, 2007, for failing to file their annual report for several years in a row. Since then, no attempt has been made to re-establish their license.

This is terribly unfortunate. Christian Stango told me on the phone back in July that he was good for his word, and that no matter what happened, he would make good on every single order with Slikstik (this was back when I thought they had gone out of business). He said this exact same thing to the Nutley representative (before he stopped returning her phone calls). I can only assume that this, too, was a lie.

Again--it is my hope this will keep someone else from falling into the same trap I did. I highly recommend that if you have been slighted or had trouble with Slikstik in the past that you call AnnMarie Nicolette with the Nutley, New Jersey Division of Consumer Protection and voice your complaint. Her number is 973-284-4900 x2421. I also highly recommend that if you plan to order from Slikstik that you think the matter through carefully. I would recommend researching Slikstik on the Better Business Bureau website (where they have not responded to any complaints leveled against them and have an unsatisfactory rating), or Check with the Nutley, New Jersey Division of Consumer Protection and see what they have to say.

Follow up

Let me state again that anyone who has been slighted really should call the Nutley Division of Consumer Affairs. I have no idea what posts you're talking about (I've been off the boards for a while), but if she gets several complaints she intends to get the New Jersey Attorney General involved in this. If anyone wants more info, please have them PM me.

Just thought this might be of help.....

Obviously to PM him you would have to register....

[shardian]

Heads up for a post on the Hardware forum over at MW.....

http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=134292&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

For those that are not registered....

Okay guys--I guess I've lost $2500. I hope I can just save someone else from making the same mistake.

I have not gotten a phone call from Slikstik since the last one I discussed in the forums above (back in July), despite leaving numerous messages requesting for them to call me back. I have also e-mailed numerous times, and have no received a response since they last updated me (which required me to have a friend who lives in New Jersey to drive by their shop). Supposedly, this whole delay has been due to a backordered trackball, yet on this last update the trackballs had finally arrived, and now it is supposedly the overlay. I have no idea why--after months of waiting for a trackball--they didn't use some of my $2500 to go ahead and have everything else ready (as they promised in several e-mails. One stated specifically that my order would ship the day after they received the trackballs).

I have filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau, and they have not heard back from Slikstik. I have filed a complaint with the Nutley, New Jersey Division of Consumer Protection. The head of the department, AnnMarie Nicolette, got a prompt callback from Christian Stango (Slikstik owner), who informed her that he had no idea I had been trying to contact him, etc., etc. I then forwarded her every single e-mail I had from Slikstik that directly refuted his statements to her (in other words, he directly lied to her). She confronted him with this, and since she has not had a phone call returned from Slikstik. Furthermore, Slikstik had its New Jersey business license (license #0600171819) revoked on January 16, 2007, for failing to file their annual report for several years in a row. Since then, no attempt has been made to re-establish their license.

This is terribly unfortunate. Christian Stango told me on the phone back in July that he was good for his word, and that no matter what happened, he would make good on every single order with Slikstik (this was back when I thought they had gone out of business). He said this exact same thing to the Nutley representative (before he stopped returning her phone calls). I can only assume that this, too, was a lie.

Again--it is my hope this will keep someone else from falling into the same trap I did. I highly recommend that if you have been slighted or had trouble with Slikstik in the past that you call AnnMarie Nicolette with the Nutley, New Jersey Division of Consumer Protection and voice your complaint. Her number is 973-284-4900 x2421. I also highly recommend that if you plan to order from Slikstik that you think the matter through carefully. I would recommend researching Slikstik on the Better Business Bureau website (where they have not responded to any complaints leveled against them and have an unsatisfactory rating), or Check with the Nutley, New Jersey Division of Consumer Protection and see what they have to say.

Follow up

Let me state again that anyone who has been slighted really should call the Nutley Division of Consumer Affairs. I have no idea what posts you're talking about (I've been off the boards for a while), but if she gets several complaints she intends to get the New Jersey Attorney General involved in this. If anyone wants more info, please have them PM me.

Just thought this might be of help.....

Obviously to PM him you would have to register....

So they've been operating without a business license for a year now huh? I think a call to the IRS may be in order here.

Aren't tax evasion and fraud both Federal offenses?

[JonathanEngr]

Oh, Happy Days!     When Orc turned me onto this board and thread I was furious and elated at the same time, and it's been the longest hours of my life waiting to be registered so I could post here.  Anyway, it is my post that he linked to above at MameWorld.

All I can say is "wow".  For the longest time I thought I alone was being reamed by Christian.  I hate to see that so many people have been done so wrong, but it's nice to know that I wasn't singled out.  I honestly think that a concerted effort would be exceptionally productive... taking a single case through small claims typically has little bite to it.  I'm not an attorney (do we have any on here looking at all of this mess?), but I'm already discussing various actions that can be taken with mine.  He's one that suggested going to the Attorney General, and a good vehicle to use is the Nutley Division of Consumer Protection (Nutley, New Jersey is where Slikstik is located).  I had contacted them primarily to see if someone there in Nutley could confirm if Slikstik is even in business.  Anyway, the head of the division is a lady named AnnMarie Nicolette, and here's her contact info:

Township of Nutley
Consumer Protection
AnnMarie Nicolette
973-284-4900x2421
anicolette@nutleynj.org

She has gotten involved, and even spoke to Christian (who passed along the same garbage to her as he did to me).  I forwarded her the e-mails that directly conflicted with what Crhistian told her, and since then he won't return her calls, etc.  However, she's now gotten Nutley Building and Zoning involved since he has (seemingly)  been running a business illegally out of a residence.  At least it's something, and with more input she can do a lot more (see below).

I also posted my results of searching for their business license, and found it revoked (I have a printed copy of the status if anyone needs it).  I also have copies of the information I provieded to the BBB and the State of New Jersey Division of Consumer Affairs.  Again:  I really think we ought to work to make a concerted effort out of this thing.  Someone even mentioned potential criminal offenses here.  Surely there's got to be a case for fraud and/or illegally operating a business (without a license).  Again--any attorneys on here?

 :soapbox:Okay... as a business owner, myself, it really irks me to see the was we've been treated.  Oh man... I was about ready to driver up to Jersey when I saw some of the posts on here... people who ordered after me and were being told a delivery time of two weeks.  I mean--geez--that's when he was harping about the friggin' trackballs and the horrible delays.  Christian was absolutely and unequivocally lying to each and every one of us, and that is absolutely unforgivable.  What's worse is he strung me along past the point of being able to appeal my charge with VISA.  And this isn't even taking into account the horrible customer service.  Man--he was "Johnny on the Spot" when I was ordering, and he even gave me his cell number (sorry guys--the number is no longer in service).  Anyway, I have made mistakes in business just like everyone else.  We all make mistakes.  But I own up to them, as I feel most responsible people would do.  And I would never lie to masses and masses of people, taking their money knowing my ship was going down.  Nope--this is just criminal.  One thing is for damn sure.  It might cost me more than the $1000 controller I'm losing, but I'm taking a bite out of his posterior before this is over with.

Now--back off of the soapbox.  I'd like to hear what everyone thinks.  I simply cannot stress enough that is you have been slighted by SlikStik to call the contact I have listed above.  She told me that if she has more complaints she will take it to the County Attorney who will then take it straight to the Attorney General's Office.  This is a way for everyone to get involved without having to invest money in an attorney just to end up with a lien on a company that's going bankrupt.  I don't hold out hope for a refund nor for my controller to show up one day, but if not, I at least want to see this situation investigated, and if anything criminal is found (which I feel is likely since he obviously lied to people about the situation... we are all witnesses to this) for someone to be held responsible.

Please feel free to contact me personally with any comments and/or questions.  Thansk for letting me vent!

[JonathanEngr]

Here's another odd thing to note.... The business analysis site lists their gross turnover as $280,000..... They on the other hand are asking for $2 Mil and on the same page stating their gross turnover is in excess of $1 Mil...  Wonder who's telling the truth here.

$1 Mil in orders received and $280,000 in orders delivered.  It all adds up ...

[wauger]

All,
After briefly discussing with Scott from Mameroom, I decided to give up the ghost and try for a refund from my CC company. Going into the call I was prepared to do some heavy lifting but I found that the company was very sympathetic to my issue. Even though the purchase was older than 90-days they agreed to give me a conditional refund and have be provide a statement regarding the lack of response from SlikStik. Since I have been documenting this the entire way, this should be easy. Once I get my refund I plan to order the same unit from Scott. I can start to see the light at the end of the tunnel...

Thanks all for your advise and assistance.

[JonathanEngr]

Congrats and good luck to you.  My bank was sympathetic but had little room to wiggle on their 60-day policy.  I'm in it for the long haul.

Speaking of criminal acts, I thought it might be interesting to post this.  Here are some examples of criminal fraud that were listed along with the definition.   Do any of these sound familiar?

Fraud, in addition to being a criminal act, is also a type of civil law violation known as a tort. A tort is a civil wrong for which the law provides a remedy. A civil fraud typically involves the act of intentionally making a false representation of a material fact, with the intent to deceive, which is reasonably relied upon by another person to that person's detriment. A "false representation" can take many forms, such as:

A false statement of fact, known to be false at the time it was made;
A statement of fact with no reasonable basis to make that statement;
A promise of future performance made with an intent, at the time the promise was made, not to perform as promised;
A statement of opinion based on a false statement of fact;
A statement of opinion that the maker knows to be false; or
An expression of opinion that is false, made by one claiming or implying to have special knowledge of the subject matter of the opinion. "Special knowledge" in this case means knowledge or information superior to that possessed by the other party, and to which the other party did not have equal access.

I want to call the author and see if they'll just shorten the definition to "www.slikstik.com".

[GAtekwriter]

You guys needs to create a tally of the total $ amounts that have been lost.  I'm not an attorney, but my wife is - I believe when it exceeds a specific amount, the attorney general is REQUIRED to step in - can't remember if this is Federal or not, but I do remember that the amount of money received by the defendant IN TOTAL becomes the driving force - so even if you spent just $50 or $100, add it in there and present that value to this new contact.  It's that TOTAL amount that you guys need to get finalized and present.  Good luck.

Jim

[Gazpacho]

I just called Ms. Nicollette, identifying myself as a Slik Stik Stuckee.

I got the impression that my call was the beginning of an effort
that she will be bringing to the attention of the Attorney General.
In order for this to succeed, however, she will REALLY need to get
inputs from everyone of us.  Rather than call her however, I think
she'd prefer receiving e-mails.  This will provide her with a stack
of papers that can be brought in and laid in front of the AG.

To help educate her, I also supplied her a link to this forum, and
encouraged her to get an account and post.  There are many people
here that would probably benefit from this.  Heck, if we do this right,
it might serve as a good example of how this type of action can be
done. 

[Damoclese]

I just emailed Ms. Nicollette all my information and email correspondence with SlikStik.  We'll see what happens.

[FrizzleFried]

Just cut n paste this entire thread to an email...that should be enough.

[Gazpacho]

Just cut n paste this entire thread to an email...that should be enough.

Actually, probably not (although it is tempting).

I think it likely that Ms Nicollette will need real names and physical
addresses and possibly phone numbers, in addition to details about
our personal woes.  Web clippings from names like Gazpacho, FrisselFried,
Damoclese, and Gatekwriter may not get much respect from the
AG's office.   

[Fozzy The Bear]

Just cut n paste this entire thread to an email...that should be enough.

Actually, probably not (although it is tempting).

I think it likely that Ms Nicollette will need real names and physical
addresses and possibly phone numbers, in addition to details about
our personal woes.  Web clippings from names like Gazpacho, FrisselFried,
Damoclese, and Gatekwriter may not get much respect from the
AG's office.   

Actually, it'd get a lot of respect as supporting evidence..... It might be just as well to send her a link to this thread. Then she can deside for herself if it is of use to her.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[Spaced Ace]

Meh, I ordered a spiner back on November 6th.  Had no idea Slikstik was having some problems.  Its been a month and a half, no word, no product.  I emailed them lastnight after reading this thread.

No response this morning.  $138.00 down the drain?  Looks like it.  My question is this, why did the mods of this forum delete the last thread?  Cause if it were up, I would have seen it and gone elsewhere.  I dont understand why it would be deleted if it was a thread that is/was true and something that would benifit the community and help protect the members.

But, I will hold out and hope someone emails me back eventually.  But unlike most people, I wouldnt hesitate to drive to their office and cause a scene for my money.  What will they do, call the cops, arrest me and take away my arcades?  Whoopie, I'll just build more.  Its the principle of it all. 

ROFL, I even paid for express shipping, 3 day.  Maybe it was 3 month shipping and I read it wrong.

[JonathanEngr]

Guys-that's great!!!  I'm thrilled to hear that people are contacting AnnMarie.

I've been in contact with AnnMarie for a month or so now, and I have provided links to her at both Mameworld and here.  I think these forums, along with Christian turning tail after she caught him lying to her, has inspired her to want to take action. 

Gazpocho is correct--she'll need real names and addys to file the petition with the AG.   I'm also 100% in agreement that, if we all pool our efforts, we can get some justice out of this one way or another.  As I stated before, I'm not holding my breath any longer about receiving my money or my panel.  However, if I don't, I sure as shootin' want to see someone held liable for the damages done to me and everyone else who has been "robbed".  Without a doubt, we have an irrefutable case here.

I've posted here and at Mameworld... I'd also recommend passing Ms. Nicolette's information to every single arcade board that you guys are involved in.  Get the word out.  Tell as many people as you can.  Put it in your blog... run an ad in your newspaper... you get the point :-)   

[JonathanEngr]

I think the mods at Mameworld did the same thing.  After I posted there, I got several responses about how well-known Slikstik was for terrible customer service, that they'd seen posts like mine all of the time, etc., and I was shocked.  I had actually searched for posts about Slikstik there prior to my purchase and came up with nothing.  At the same time, some posts like these can get pretty flaming, so they probably removed them after regular posting stopped.  I definitely give kudos to Mameworld now, though... they decided to remove all advertising graphics for Slikstik from their site.  Besides, who in the world would now want to be associated with Slikstik?

With that said, I hope the moderators of all sites will leave these posts and archive them along with every other thread started.  This is information that is pertinent, and if I had seen a thread like this my $2500 would absolutely have gone to another arcade manufacturer who deserves to make a profit.  Oh--and I would now be "playing arcade games the way they are meant to be played".  hehehehehehehe

[saint]

No response this morning.  $138.00 down the drain?  Looks like it.  My question is this, why did the mods of this forum delete the last thread?  Cause if it were up, I would have seen it and gone elsewhere.  I dont understand why it would be deleted if it was a thread that is/was true and something that would benifit the community and help protect the members.

I don't recall deleting any threads on this but that's not to say I didn't, just that I don't recall doing so. I *have* deleted individual posts from this thread, but only for rules violations or for things I thought were inappropriate in this situation, such as jokes of physical confrontations. Anything pertaining to transactions with SlikStik I haven't touched. I hate to see things go bad with any vendor, but when it comes to transactions between individuals or vendors BYOAC and I strive to remain completely neutral.

--- saint

[saint]

SlikStik threads found by searching for "SlikStik"and "service" (good and bad comments found):

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=71009.0

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=68103.0

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=66755.0

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=63782.0

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=61282.0

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=61025.0

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=50865.0

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=48670.0

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=40807.0

... etc. More bad than good comments but not all bad comments. Either way, my response isn't about taking one side or another regarding what's happening with SlikStik, but rather any hint that BYOAC might be censoring negative threads.  We're not.

--- saint

[CheffoJeffo]

I don't recall deleting any threads on this but that's not to say I didn't, just that I don't recall doing so.

IIRC, there was a much shorter thread in which a reportedly long-time SS customer squared off with some other folks (and I have to call mea culpa here, because I think I was one of the 'other folks') and vehemently defended SS. Things got heated and the majority of that thread ended up as a train-wreck.

I think that is the thread that Frizzle was referring to in his initial post in this thread and perhaps is the post that Spaced Ace was referring to.

I'll take this opportunity to renew my call for people to post about their experiences in the review section of the wiki:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=72444.msg746861#msg746861

And you still shouldn't lump me in with the troublemakers ... although I don't recall ever saying that ...

[Orclord]

I think the mods at Mameworld did the same thing. 

No posts were deleted by me....

I take saints position on the situation...Neutral when it comes to vendors...

Posts do get wiped automatically after a period of time....To stop the boards asploding.....

But I think what people meant is they had seen posts about Slikstiks customer service on other boards like this....

It sometimes pays to Lurk......

 

Anyway I hope people do get in touch and the petition gets filed

[JonathanEngr]

Yup--I definitely need to stress the "I think" portion of what I said.  The only place I looked (or thought to look) was Mameworld. 

You guys do a fantastic job with these forums, and I can't imagine the amount of time it takes to scan through every post.  I'm glad to see that you always have an will continue to leave these posts up and available for all to see.

[saint]

Heh. If I actually read near half of the posts I'd be amazed. We don't purge old posts here at all, though that may change if the database ever explodes. So far SirWoogie says we're in good shape.