Author Topic: ArcadeOS woes (Read 5598 times)

PakuPaku · « **on:** October 02, 2004, 04:41:12 pm »

Hello -

I am an AOS 2.52 n00b. The program can't find the roms. I've looked at, and modded, arcadeos.cfg and mame.cfg, and still cannot get AOS to find the rom folder. I followed the manual instructions before and after the cfg file edit.

Any ideas what to look for? I am sure it's something dumb I've overlooked. Otherwise, I'll try another frontend...

BTW, if it helps, it's an old mame, 036b.

Thanks for your help!

DarkKobold · « **Reply #1 on:** October 07, 2004, 01:40:02 pm »

If you have your roms in a different folder than the \ROMS of the mame folder, it is near impossible to get ARCADEOS to find the roms... That was my problem. It easier to switch mame to look in \ROMS than it is to get ARCADEOS to look elsewhere.

SirPeale · « **Reply #2 on:** October 07, 2004, 07:36:23 pm »

AOS relies on mame.cfg for finding any files, so make sure that it's correct.

MonitorGuru · « **Reply #3 on:** October 17, 2004, 01:23:02 pm »

Did you solve this problem? I'm having the same basic problem. But I'm using AdvMame .87 and AOS 2.52 AdvMame works 100%, but AOS will not find the roms unless I set "Unknown=1" in the config, then it finds them (shows me the count in the menu) but still displays no games.

I've moved the zips to different folders, even unzipped them and still nothing. I posted a separate thread here (before I found this one). Hopefully someone can help. Is it a bug in 2.52? I thought I had this working under 2.50 a few months ago with advmame!

Also should I put regular mame/mame.cfg in there and point AOS to mame.cfg instead of advmame.rc ?? would that help find the files at least? is that the only use of the config/rc??

KHAN · « **Reply #4 on:** October 17, 2004, 06:34:18 pm »

I also got the same problem when i download Aos 2.52
It is not getting the gamelist,but it was good when 2.50
may be all of us are getting some thing wrong.
mame.cfg and other files are part of ArcadeOs,as i
told that we had it perfect in the past so it shold be more
advanced to produce a gamelist.

MonitorGuru · « **Reply #5 on:** October 17, 2004, 09:25:49 pm »

See my other post. Either you dont have XML2INFO.exe in your directory with ArcadeOS or you have pulled a version from a windows build instead of a DOS build of Mame.

That fixed it for me.

However I find that ArcadeOS is very essoteric about things. I understand it after a bit, but it is anything but intuitive, and some things purely arn't documented, or are, but arn't explained as to their purpose.

I wish more programs could work on arcade monitors. THere are 2: ArcadeOS and AdvanceMenu

I really wish GameLauncher would work as its a nice clean interface, but no support for arcade monitors.

AdvanceMenu also is strange to me, feels too Unix-like rather than multi-select game hardware like.

captainpotato · « **Reply #6 on:** October 18, 2004, 09:34:43 am »

Are you running AOS from within its own folder? I found that in my autoexec.bat I had to include this:

cd c:\arcadeos
arcadeos

If I didn't do this, it couldn't find the roms.

MonitorGuru · « **Reply #7 on:** October 18, 2004, 09:36:57 am »

Yes, im running from the own folder and using the GO.bat to launch.

In my case, the problem was not pathing, it was soley the issue of wrong version of XML2info.exe

I still cant get sound to work without locking up the menu or mame.. gotta do more digging tonight.

KHAN · « **Reply #8 on:** October 18, 2004, 06:50:37 pm »

Have to tried this version of ArcadeOS Plus ?

This is a very complete bug fix version of AOS which
gets rom information and gererate rom list directly from
MAME.EXE .

http://def.buste.de/

KHAN · « **Reply #9 on:** October 18, 2004, 06:58:06 pm »

don't laugh at me,becoz of an stupid quistion.

How to run ArcadeOS directly when computer starts.
i set a command in autoexet.bat file...
C:\Mame\arcadeos.exe

it gives an error messege in the starting

MonitorGuru · « **Reply #10 on:** October 18, 2004, 07:06:39 pm »

Thanks for the link.

Unfortunately it was built off an old version of AOS. I think lots of things were fixed since 2.47 wern't they?

But the site does have a few cool things I will check out at least.

Thanks!

KHAN · « **Reply #11 on:** October 18, 2004, 08:41:38 pm »

Just check it for your sake

but you can't give the answer of my question .

Thenasty · « **Reply #12 on:** October 18, 2004, 08:46:59 pm »

Quote from: KHAN on October 18, 2004, 06:58:06 pm

plz tell me the true command for autoexex.bat
how to make GO.bat and how to run it.

from the dos prompt follow this (hit return in each line)

C:\
cd\
copy con go.bat
@echo off
cd\mame
arcadeos (no enter here) your done push
F6 key to save and exit.

Now try it, type
Go followed by Enter key

SirPeale · « **Reply #13 on:** October 18, 2004, 09:53:38 pm »

Quote from: KHAN on October 18, 2004, 06:58:06 pm

don't laugh at me,becoz of an stupid quistion.

How to run ArcadeOS directly when computer starts.
i set a command in autoexet.bat file...
C:\Mame\arcadeos.exe

it gives an error messege in the starting

MonitorGuru · « **Reply #14 on:** October 18, 2004, 09:55:05 pm »

Quote from: KHAN on October 18, 2004, 08:41:38 pm

Just check it for your sake

but you can't give the answer of my question .

EXCUUUUUSEEE ME... I was typing my message while you were posting your second message, therefore I couldn't respond to something I hadn't read now could I?

Thanks and SOOOORRRYYY.

KHAN · « **Reply #15 on:** October 19, 2004, 05:42:05 pm »

Thanks .....

i already solved it before i read this thread...
Now i have ArcadeOs as Computer starts.

****PROBLEMS****

1) 266 Pentium 2 COMPAQ Branded.
128 MB SDRAM. ATI rage video card. (i think 2 MB)

I am using dmame 87. Games are running slow.
specially neogeo games.
what should i do to increase the speed?
frameskipping is useless.

2) Video/Resolution of most games is not fit to my PC monitor
screen.Only neogeo games are best fit.
I read somewhere about a software SCI DISPLAY DOCTOR.
How to set games with fit to screen with out setting the
monitor?

SirPeale · « **Reply #16 on:** October 20, 2004, 08:16:57 am »

Quote from: KHAN on October 19, 2004, 05:42:05 pm

1) 266 Pentium 2 COMPAQ Branded.
128 MB SDRAM. ATI rage video card. (i think 2 MB)

I am using dmame 87. Games are running slow.
specially neogeo games.
what should i do to increase the speed?
frameskipping is useless.

Use an older version of Mame. I recommend .55 or possibly even .36

Quote

2) Video/Resolution of most games is not fit to my PC monitor
screen.Only neogeo games are best fit.
I read somewhere about a software SCI DISPLAY DOCTOR.
How to set games with fit to screen with out setting the
monitor?

Have you tried the -tweak option?

And yes, SciTech Display Doctor may help with some resolutions. Do a Google search for it, it's free now for personal use. Especially since your video card is pretty old.

KHAN · « **Reply #17 on:** October 20, 2004, 04:57:45 pm »

What will be the cheapest/lowest requirements to run
dmame 0.87 ?

which is the best ?(for both normal and arcade monitors)
a) VGA Card
b) AGP card

KHAN · « **Reply #18 on:** October 20, 2004, 06:23:56 pm »

What will be the cheapest/lowest requirements to run
dmame 0.87 ?

which is the best ?(for both normal and arcade monitors)
a) VGA Card
b) AGP card
c) ARCADE VGA

Excuse Me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FIRST YOU TELL ME ONE THING.
How games are running on pentium 2 here in gamestations.
these games are running with a playable speed.
like King of fighters 2000 ...
some other games (Band games/nagged screens/test drivers) are enable....
KOF2003 , METAL SLUG 5 , SNK VS CAPCOM (CHOAS)

ANY COMMENTS.....

SirPeale · « **Reply #19 on:** October 20, 2004, 08:33:47 pm »

Read the first sentence of my last reply.

KHAN · « **Reply #20 on:** October 21, 2004, 04:20:17 pm »

ok...Sir...

But i am trying to upgrade my PC hardware .....
so i am asking you which is the lowest PC hardware riquirement for latest mame....ok....

please be attentive to answer the other questions which i ask above.....

SirPeale · « **Reply #21 on:** October 21, 2004, 04:31:12 pm »

Quote from: KHAN on October 21, 2004, 04:20:17 pm

But i am trying to upgrade my PC hardware .....
so i am asking you which is the lowest PC hardware riquirement for latest mame....ok....

Again, it depends on what games you want to run. Pac-Man? What you have right now *should* be fine. You mentioned Neo Geo, I wouldn't recommend anything slower than a 1 GHz machine for that.

No, you don't need all that speed per se, but sometimes some of the games have high priority moments, ie a lot of action on screen at once. This can have a serious lag, although just for a moment. But that could be a crucial moment in gameplay! And of course it just wouldn't look right if you suddenly had that slowdown.

The general rule of thumb is this: buy the fastest machine you can afford. Then work the games you want to play into that setup. No, you won't get all the games you want to play, but you'll get quite a few. And you can always upgrade later on.

Raven.. · « **Reply #22 on:** October 22, 2004, 02:47:44 am »

I am running DOS Advmame on one with a 766 Celeron and 196mg RAM. It runs just fine playing NeoGeo and CapCom fighting games. And this is with version 0.86.

KHAN · « **Reply #23 on:** October 22, 2004, 05:29:50 pm »

That is absolute answer.
766 Mhz....
i was thinking to buy 600 Mhz...

Witchboard · « **Reply #24 on:** October 26, 2004, 03:34:46 pm »

When I start ArcadeOS from DOS I get the program start sound then my computer locks up and I have to power it down. I'm still playing, but thought I would ask anyway.

KHAN · « **Reply #25 on:** October 26, 2004, 07:22:00 pm »

Which version of windows,arcadeos,mame ?

just go to the link given ....before....

Witchboard · « **Reply #26 on:** October 26, 2004, 10:18:54 pm »

98SE booted into DOS mode. ArcadeOS 2.52, Mame 087b.

What would be the link given before?

I think I may have more problems. I can run mame once then when I try to load another game, it just sits there. It seems it doesn't even try to load the ROMset.

KHAN · « **Reply #27 on:** October 27, 2004, 09:58:53 am »

Quote from: Witchboard on October 26, 2004, 10:18:54 pm

98SE booted into DOS mode. ArcadeOS 2.52, Mame 087b.

What would be the link given before?

I think I may have more problems. I can run mame once then when I try to load another game, it just sits there. It seems it doesn't even try to load the ROMset.

http://def.buste.de/

In my openion..do all setup within windows to use a GUI.
after set arcadeOS you can change to DOS7.

As you told that you have so many problems...
i don't think that you will be able to solve them because ARCADEOS 2.52
is getting trouble with new users.
You should use another version of arcadeOs.
keep ask in a row for all of the problems.

KHAN · « **Reply #28 on:** October 27, 2004, 10:12:23 am »

Mame / dmame ?

are you using (windows command line mame)?

JoyMonkey · « **Reply #29 on:** October 27, 2004, 10:17:45 am »

Quote from: Witchboard on October 26, 2004, 10:18:54 pm

98SE booted into DOS mode. ArcadeOS 2.52, Mame 087b.

If you're running a version of Mame newer than 0.83, ArcadeOS needs to know about it in order to create the gamelist. Check your Legacy option in arcadeos.cfg

For Mame 0.83 and earlier:
#Legacy List Generation
legacygen=1

For Mame 0.84 and later:
#Legacy List Generation
legacygen=0

This way ArcadeOS will know how to get the info it needs out of Mame, either by doing the old listinfo command, or the newer listxml command.

Edit: Also, like Khan says- make sure you're using dmame.

Witchboard · « **Reply #30 on:** October 27, 2004, 10:22:56 am »

Thanks for the link. I don't think my MAME problem is associated with ArcadeOS. MAME seems to work fine the first time. I get 59.XXX FPS. It takes about 30 seconds for the game to load, but I figure that's because I'm using a PII 233. After I exit the game and try to either load that one or another, it just sits there with a blinking cursor. I have to reboot to get it to load another game. [edit] It doesn't lock up the computer or anything. I have to ^C out of it and I can go about my business.

ArcadeOS will start with the startup sound and after that it's locked up. I have to hard reset my computer. I tried disabling the sound thinking it was a audio card problem, but it still does the same thing.

I'm using DMAME since I don't boot Windows.

Witchboard · « **Reply #31 on:** October 27, 2004, 10:27:31 am »

Quote from: JoyMonkey on October 27, 2004, 10:17:45 am

Quote from: Witchboard on October 26, 2004, 10:18:54 pm
98SE booted into DOS mode. ArcadeOS 2.52, Mame 087b.

If you're running a version of Mame newer than 0.83, ArcadeOS needs to know about it in order to create the gamelist. Check your Legacy option in arcadeos.cfg

For Mame 0.83 and earlier:
#Legacy List Generation
legacygen=1

For Mame 0.84 and later:
#Legacy List Generation
legacygen=0

This way ArcadeOS will know how to get the info it needs out of Mame, either by doing the old listinfo command, or the newer listxml command.

Edit: Also, like Khan says- make sure you're using dmame.

I got ArcadeOS to run a couple of times at first. It found all my games fine. I even ran one from ArcadeOS, but for some reason after that it went kaput. $:-\$

[edit] I changed my legacy switch in the cfg. It was set to 1 and I changed it to 0. Do I need to delete my already generated list and have it rebuild?

SirPeale · « **Reply #32 on:** October 27, 2004, 11:27:19 am »

Yes. Delete all .lst files and .rm* files.

Witchboard · « **Reply #33 on:** October 27, 2004, 11:42:41 am »

It went through the list building process but still locked up after it started. It also didn't display my games that I have on the system, so I'm presuming it didn't find them. I'm going to run a scandisk to see if maybe the hard drive is flaking out on me. Just seems odd that both MAME and ArcadeOS are not acting right.

[edit] Scandisk came up clean.

[edit] Removed BLASTER settings from autoexec.bat and everything works like a champ. Looks like it is my sound card after all.

[edit] Figured it out. I fat fingered the IRQ on the blaster settings. It's a wonder that mame would load at all. It wasn't even a number.

Now to get ArcadeOS to see my games again. Thanks for the tips every one. Sometimes it just takes other people for you to look at something differently.

KHAN · « **Reply #34 on:** October 27, 2004, 06:01:52 pm »

don't go at tha dark side $:-\$
arcadeOS 2.52 used XML2info.exe for generating game list...
i wonder if you are trying it again and again...
the main thing to set dmame is the booting proscess which you
already done quite successfully.

I am 100% sure that if you will use both of them which i told you
in the above link, you will got every thing ....

go and check it for your sake...

SirPeale · « **Reply #35 on:** October 27, 2004, 06:11:27 pm »

Hm...he states that it's working, but locks up.

Perhaps a thermal failure? Or maybe a hardware failure, that can happen.

Or even a config issue. I was having lockup issues, until I discovered that it was due to using some odd VESA mode. Once I stopped using VESA it hasn't done it since.

Witchboard · « **Reply #36 on:** October 27, 2004, 07:09:21 pm »

Quote from: Peale on October 27, 2004, 06:11:27 pm

Hm...he states that it's working, but locks up.

Perhaps a thermal failure? Or maybe a hardware failure, that can happen.

Or even a config issue. I was having lockup issues, until I discovered that it was due to using some odd VESA mode. Once I stopped using VESA it hasn't done it since.

No more lock-up problems. It was an incorrect BLASTER setting in my autoexec.bat.

Quote from: KHAN on October 27, 2004, 06:01:52 pm

don't go at tha dark side $:-\$
arcadeOS 2.52 used XML2info.exe for generating game list...
i wonder if you are trying it again and again...
the main thing to set dmame is the booting proscess which you
already done quite successfully.

I am 100% sure that if you will use both of them which i told you
in the above link, you will got every thing ....

go and check it for your sake...

For my sake, I'll take a look at it.

SirPeale · « **Reply #37 on:** October 27, 2004, 09:41:43 pm »

Quote from: Witchboard on October 27, 2004, 07:09:21 pm

No more lock-up problems. It was an incorrect BLASTER setting in my autoexec.bat.

See? Config error. Good for you to find that!

Witchboard · « **Reply #38 on:** October 28, 2004, 10:40:24 pm »

Yeah, it's hard for me to type on laptop keyboards. Oh.. speaking of laptops, DON'T let your laptop hibernate while ArcadeOS is open. It totally fragged the install and corrupted all sorts of files within the ArcadeOS directory. I can't even delete the corrupted files. Learning experience there.

KHAN · « **Reply #39 on:** October 29, 2004, 11:13:45 am »

mmm....listining first time about Laptop

Write a book on that experience $:-\$


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