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Greenman's Jukebox Build
« on: November 05, 2018, 01:53:41 am »
Hi all.

As the year (2018) draws to an end, it means one project is ending and another begins.  Bit of history...as I no longer work with the tools anymore but teach others in the electrotechnology sector, I try to build a project each year to scratch that itch.  This year, it has been a virtual pinball, last year a 4.8m sailing dinghy, the year before a pedestal arcade unit.

Next year (2019) is the year of the Jukebox...even though I have already begun some preliminary work.  REALLY looking forward to this one!  I love my music and it will be a great addition to a growing retro man cave. 

My plan, as with previous builds is to incorporate a little old school with a bit of new. 

I would really like to replicate the look of a Seeburg USC 1 or 2


Isn't she beautiful!

Not sure I do this to scale yet as I have scaled a few pictures of them to get some rough dimensions and the components I have already purchased (more of that in another post) may not allow it.  We'll see.  This build will be full size.

Anyway, I have just about got the software working just the way I want it...but that can wait for another post also.

More soon.




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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2018, 08:40:03 am »
Iíll be watching with interest!!! Do it!
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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2018, 02:14:09 pm »
Super cool project. Look forward to progress!

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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2018, 02:20:00 pm »
Are you guys setting up for some kind of Megaman joke? We have Meltman and Greenman in the same thread.

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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2018, 02:39:31 pm »
It would be ridiculously expensive but super cool if you made the top of the jukebox a big touchscreen. 

Looking forward to this build.

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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2018, 06:06:32 pm »
Some of the components I have for the build include:

An LG 34" 21:9 ultrawide monitor (34UM95-P) This was left over from when I closed down a business.  Great resolution and nice size for this project.  Not touchscreen, but I want buttons for an authentic look anyway.



A set of Jensen SPX-7 Millennial Speakers (From the days that Jensen made quality gear...circa 2000).  Picked up second hand, these sound really good.  They may have to be cut down slightly if I want to build a Seeburg USC lookalike though.


A Yamaha RX-V540 Amplifier


A Yamaha YST-SW305 Subwoofer


I actually purchased the sub, amp and two Yamaha speakers a week ago for the bargain price of $100 and then sold off the speakers for $120 so effectively I got the amp and sub for free plus $20.  ;D

I have tested the sound on many genres of music and it passed the test with flying colours.  That sub really knocks out the bass and is more tuned for music as opposed to movies.
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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2018, 03:00:51 am »
Here is a bit of a washed out screen pic of the software I am customising for this build.  Playing around with some concepts at the moment (very much in its infancy).  I will have to remove the letters O and I as jukeboxes don't use them to avoid confusion with the numbers 0 and 1.  The monitor I am using is 820mm wide (32 inches) so it will fill the space nicely and at 3440x1440 it zings.

Those cards are pics of an actual card that I graphically cleaned up.  The program fills the cards in automatically with your songlist.  I'll take some hi-res pics as the build progresses.

It currently shows 144 songs on every page and the pages turn at the click of a button (with sound effect).  The software also has a nice vinyl crackle for the first few seconds of each song.

I used DWJukebox for the software as it is completely customisable (and free). 


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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2018, 01:40:03 pm »
I like it, I like it a lot  :applaud: :applaud:

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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2018, 01:57:42 pm »
That is really, really cool.   :cheers:

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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2018, 02:43:02 pm »
Nice. I'm planning to do a Jukebox build next as well based on a Rasperry Pi with rpi-fruitbox and a Hifi Berry hat.
Will follow your build for inspiration  :cheers:
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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2018, 05:37:15 pm »
I like this project. Will be following your work.

matsadona: please keep us updated on the rpi jukebox, sounds interesting.

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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2018, 08:47:02 pm »
So I'm working on some scale diagrams at the moment.  I scoured the web and the only dimensions I can find are length, width and height.  Also no drawings either, only pictures which are very difficult to scale to due to the camera angle, lens etc.  Relying on pics and Youtube videos unfortunately.

The issue with these jukeboxes is that they have two main speakers right at the bottom, with a very small opening for sound and a large panel of glass above.  I really want to open that area up a bit if I can to improve the sound.  Would be easier to build something else, but the missus has her heart set on this model.

Here is a side view of a crude attempt to scale.  Once done, I'll set the photocopier up to print it out full size. 

Lucky I'm not starting this project till 2019  ::)

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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2018, 01:06:37 pm »
The two speakers in the bottom, aren't they just the woofers?
I.e. I assumed that there are tweeters and mid-range speakers in the upper part (between the selection panel at top and the disc labels) .
For the lower bass you don't need that much openings. If it is a vented enclosure the port openings is quite complex thing to calculate as well - if you want it to be right with frequencies and gain (however not that hard when you know what you are doing and got the correct formulas).
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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2018, 01:23:51 pm »
I never would have thought of putting boobs on a jukebox. That is genius.

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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2018, 11:41:40 am »
So that is why I always have loved speakers - subconsciously I have been looking at boobs  ::)
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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2018, 12:27:35 pm »
 Jennifer has a few of those jukes, and would be of the opinion you could simply move the speaker panel back a bit and enlarge it for whatever sized speaker you wanted if your heart is set on that....However by design they were built that way to add external speakers, BIG ,heavy subs and multiple mids as to spread the noise around the club....And possibly minimize space to add a receiver for wall mounts.
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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2018, 09:32:35 pm »
Hi Jennifer.

Thank you very much for that info.  Just wondering if you or anyone else with a USC1 (Bandshell, not the USC2 Firestar as it is taller) would be able to provide me with some rough dimensions as indicated below.  Anything would be very much appreciated.   :notworthy:

Please?


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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2018, 07:56:00 pm »


Organised the PC now.  Plans have been scaled.  Almost ready to start my favourite bit...Construction!

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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2019, 04:54:41 am »
Well it's 2019 so time to get on with it!

Below is a rough video of the setout.  Concept seems sound so the build starts now.  Sorry about the low quality video.




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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2019, 08:07:18 am »
That's already nice. Definitely subscribing!

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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2019, 02:26:40 pm »
Any progress on this one? 

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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2019, 03:07:47 am »
Had a few design issues with it.  Changed designs more than once, but kept coming back to it.  All steam ahead from here.  The build begins.



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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2019, 04:02:07 am »
OK, so I have made some progress on this build.  It's been slow progress as I process how to engineer each section.  Anyway, here are some photos and more info.....








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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2019, 04:20:29 am »








Slowly taking shape.  More photos coming.  I have adjusted the software and changed the speaker arrangement, including a quality centre speaker set among other things.  Anyway more to come.  Not a great deal of detail here as it's not even a box at this point. 
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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2019, 04:36:21 am »
Slowly...very slowly taking shape.





Lots of work to do...

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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2019, 08:01:42 am »
That looks great. Nice start.  :applaud:

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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2019, 10:35:58 am »
I had to re-read the thread as I liked this so much. The software looks great. I cannot wait to see how it turns out. I am guessing you will make use of some RGB LED strips? You could make it looks very cool and retro. Can't wait to see it completed.

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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2019, 01:34:14 pm »
Thatís a lovely shape and some very fine woodworking sir.

Iíve been trying to design an arcade in that shape for ages and couldnít make it work. The accent piece inside the curve looks great and ties it together great  :applaud:

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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2019, 03:23:20 am »
Thanks guys. 

I will be adding some LED, but not over the top.  The Mrs has claimed this jukebox as her Christmas present.  Not sure she realises how much more work is involved here before it is finished.  Anyway, here is a bit more progress.  I'll let the pics do the talking at this stage of the build.  Happy to take feedback and/or answer questions though.   :D








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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #30 on: November 24, 2019, 03:05:24 am »
Got a bit more done.  More filling of holes, more shaping etc.

Also got to build the centre speaker box which will lift the sound up off the floor.  Love the quality in the old Jensen millennial series speakers.  Don't make them like they used to.  Speaker grill also arrived.  I am using colourbond metal.  It's actually a piece of gutter guard to stop leaves entering your gutters.  I'll need to spray it black.  Due to the pattern, you won't actually see through it unless you are at floor level.  Pics below.










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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #31 on: November 24, 2019, 05:55:37 pm »
I love build threads with pictures - keep them coming   :applaud:
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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2019, 06:20:44 am »
So I made a control panel vector this week and had it laser cut to size including all the necessary holes.  One panel is clear, the other is a lightbox opaque colour.  I will be placing a translite between the two pieces and illuminating the underside for effect.  The VU panel meters are a perfect fit. 

I'm not trying to copy the old 1970 USC1 jukebox entirely, hence the VU's.  Pics below.


Not doing this anymore.  Going for an original look.






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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2020, 04:31:09 am »
Managed a bit more progress on this one...   

Things should speed up a bit from here.

Lightbox in.  A translite will go in front of it and 5mm toughened glass will finish off the front.





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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2020, 12:26:36 am »
Photo quality is a bit poor.  Sorry about that.  Still a lot to do on this one.


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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2020, 04:13:34 am »
A bit more done.  Inch by inch...










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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2020, 05:31:34 am »
This is so cool I don't know where to start.  I wasn't really interested in building a juke until I saw yours.
I always like organic lines on things and this is awesome.

Is that MDF you used for the front facing panels with the arc in it?  How thick is it?

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« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2020, 08:42:42 pm »
Thanks Bobby.  They are very kind words.

I struggled to bend the ply so yeah, I went 3mm mdf but braced it with timber every 200mm to get the curve perfectly even.

I wasn't really interested in building a juke until I saw yours.


Do it!!!  This is my favourite project so far...and I've made quite a few.  Just wish I wasn't the first.  I had no one to copy.  :lol


First coat of epoxy done... 




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« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2020, 08:53:16 pm »
I have no idea what that is.. but you have my attention.. I like it  :)
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Re: Greenman's Jukebox Build
« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2020, 10:39:05 pm »
Trailblazing ain't easy!

Getting curves right is really difficult.  And those look about perfect.
Look forward to seeing the rest of your build and watching you finish this off!

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