Re: Best Button Controls

[Xiaou2]

People will wake from their ignorance soon enough.

Unfortunately, you're way too comfy and sleeping deeply.

Steve will be ......Steve.

Oh, thank God you didn't bother with a Xiaou2 length reply. I have three times the posts he does, but I'll be damned if he hasn't written more words. 

 Uhh,   so what you are really saying... is that you are Willfully Ignorant.. and you basically post a bunch of Useless garbage.. such as the post you just made?

 Makes sense.

 People like you are not here for the true passion of the hobby.   You are in it for the Narcissistic Supply ... from the attention of posting.

[CheffoJeffo]

Steve, how can you come out here and insult people without any attempt at even trying to be clever and still claim the moral high ground?

FWIW -- I'm a Narcissist and haven't seen either of these guys at any of the meetings.

[Slippyblade]

Ah...  Love it.  X2 is right, the rest of the universe is wrong.  At least according to him.

[CheffoJeffo]

In one mere week, nightmares of imaginable proportions can and did often take place.    Furthermore,  I was not merely the repair tech... I was managing the place from top to bottom.  Paperwork, ordering, staff, bank deposits, and everything else under the sun.

I bet you meant to write UNimaginable, but in any case ... dude ... you worked in an arcade in a food court. That is not the stuff of which nightmares are made.

[Xiaou2]

I bet you meant to write UNimaginable, but in any case ... dude ... you worked in an arcade in a food court. That is not the stuff of which nightmares are made.

 Good catch.

 and way to Trivialize again...

 But no...  that place was hell.   One of the worst jobs Ive held...  and I have to actually put "Dishwasher"  above it.

  If your store isnt a super  high population dense area...  then your sales figures do not compete with the larger and busier locations...
As such... they dont like to send you too many new games.   They give them to the higher earning stores.   You end up getting their old crap.. that is barely partially working, beat up, filthy, and hack-butchered to hell internally.

 These managers would bubble-gum fix the machine to barely keep itself on.   And as customers got fed up with the machines poor control or partially working state...  they stopped playing it.   Intake sales drastically nose dived ... and so the home office,  decides to have the game shipped elsewhere...  thinking that the game stopped being played,  due to peoples loss of interests...  rather than lazy and or poorly qualified managers.

 As soon as a truck of games came in... upper mgt. was all over your  butt to get them working and making big money,  in mere days...  when some of the problems were very complex, and difficult to trace.

 Have a set schedule... except for the middle of the week... when you must get up at 5am..   so you can record every +6 digit meter... and count every single token, in every game and bill changer.   I think we had 40,000 tokens.

 Ohhh look... its another mall walker bringing food and drink in...  when thats not allowed...
 Ohh look..its a kid or teen trying to shake the candy crane game.   Tell them off.. and ohh look... its a psychotic parent making threat at you.
 Gota repair a game?  Only person on duty,  parts and tools out in the open...  and little kids keep pulling you to the prize counter... where you would watch them stare for about 3 minutes, cry for 5 min,  then another 3 min to finally pick a piece of candy and a worthless piece of plastic junk.

 Meanwhile... theres a kid kicking a coin door...   Hanging on a steering wheel...  punching a monitor... spilling a drink... causing a fight...  or lying to you about a credit loss / game issue.

 Then your best earning game dies in the middle of a Tournament...

 A steering wheel gets ripped off a machine,  an employee pisses off a customer... and customer kicks the glass showcase... shattering it to bits,  get called into work randomly.. after-hours...  due to the bill changers flipping out.

 A conversion kit comes in right before the of your shift... and you are forced to stay to convert it.

 Staff not doing their cleaning duties,  rare to no help with maintenance, ignoring customers while playing games on shift (if caught = instant termination),  getting zapped by a board or monitor,  fighting a major storm to get in... then being told to go back home (if your not stuck by the time they announce it)  .. and eating wretched mall food regularly.

 These are just a few of the daily fun events, of a mall arcade manager,  of 42 games.

[CheffoJeffo]

I bet you meant to write UNimaginable, but in any case ... dude ... you worked in an arcade in a food court. That is not the stuff of which nightmares are made.

 Good catch.

 and way to Trivialize again...

Actually, the point was that you trivialize those who experience actual nightmares. The same way you trivialize the opinions of others by calling them names and dismissing their opinions.

Nothing matters unless it happened to Xiaou2 and every opinon is wrong unless Xiaou says otherwise, at which point it becomes fact.

 

[CheffoJeffo]

lol.  Pathetic.

Well, lets start with the Obvious.   You immediately dispense a nasty and negative comment.   From my experience, (personal and witnessing it in others later... )  People whom tend to use such negative language and expression.. tend to have poor self control, and little to no self respect.   Hence, if you dont respect yourself... why would you respect someone else?

  for making me go tommyQuote(tm) on you

[Xiaou2]

But you quoted *ME* and I was talking about a joystick with actual leaf switches. Somehow you figured that I should have been talking about a levered button.

 Uhh,  I thought we were talking about the Subject in this thread... which is a Leaf-Button.

 Using "Wico"  as a description does not denote joystick.

The sad thing is that you won't find a bigger fan of leaf buttons and Wico sticks on this board. I have boxes of both. But I can't say "Xiaou's right" because you rant all looney and tooney about things that aren't real.

 This is the type of "Claused" box I expect from a Narc.

 I dont need your "help",  nor do I need to be confined by control mechanisms.

 If you like Leafs,  then its your choice to support of defend them.    However, unless you have used randys versions, and you understand what floating is...  then you just dont have the experience to be of much help anyway.

Actually, the point was that you trivialize those who experience actual nightmares. The same way you trivialize the opinions of others by calling them names and dismissing their opinions.

Nothing matters unless it happened to Xiaou2 and every opinon is wrong unless Xiaou says otherwise, at which point it becomes fact.

 Well, I dont know what butt you pulled that out of... but its completely and utterly false.

 In fact, Im very sympathetic and empathetic to those whom truly suffer.    Though, I dont consider Narc abusers as a someone who deserves my sympathies.  As they do not have anyones back accept their own, and the Flying Monkeys that they manage to get under their spell.

 If you didnt know... I started to try to make a Discs of Tron spinner... maybe 8 years or more before someone came out with anything at all.   I spent a lot of time and money,  making the parts...  which were made using expensive mold materials, and an expensive two part plastic mix set.   After finalizing the knob, bearing holders,  and top-bezel..  I ran into a stopping point.  The optical encoder mold I had made,  wasnt able to be cast using the plastics I was using... as they were too brittle with small thin parts.   The mixture was also random in its reactions...sometimes curing well... and other times...not so well.    Include issues with molds,  as well as needing a larger batch of plastics.. and I went through maybe $400 in total.

 To me...  at that time, it was an unimaginable sum, that took a real stretch to fund... and was a huge kick to the gut, when it failed.   I realize some of my previous errors these days...  but back then,  I dont think I had the resources to complete the project anyways.

 Point being...  that Randys monetary investment,  was based on a percentage of his income and greater functional machine shop abilities.   One could say,  that even if his investment tanked... it would have been relatively the same as my own losses.   Obviously, he makes far more money,  and thus,  more to use for growth and risky adventures.


 At one point, I was going to change the spinner design,  for easier production... as well as possibly better control  (as well as being usable for other games).   A fan of the game that I was sharing my progress with... was viciously opposed to the new ideas... and said that he refused to buy one,  if it operated this way.

 I had to respect that opinion... and that many others probably would share that same feeling.  Furthermore, that new design wasnt as nice looking,  nor could be used as an Arcade DOT replacement... limiting sales potentials.

 Although I felt there was some genius there, and that the controller may have had other cool uses...  I knew it was time to let go.   Maybe I could had changed the controllers intent,  to save my own butt...  but I have too much conscience and passion, to use a somewhat deceitful marketing theme... as well as the pride to release an under-par controller for that game.

 Anyways... 

 Sometimes, we flat out get things wrong, and have to admit, and swallow the consequences of our thoughts and actions.

 
 IMO ,  If you are out to make Leafswitch controls... then those controls should be for Classics... not for fighters.   Microswitch buttons and sticks are perfectly suited for this task already... and they are dirt cheap.

 There is already a large need and desire for  new arcade original replacements, for classic machines... as well as their own creations, and re-creations.   So why bother to try to market and produce for a completely unrelated use?

 Why trash the classic fans expected feel and reactivity?   Why not make the replicas first priority..  and then hybrids as a distant future option?

 Its bad enough that people are forgetting .. or dont know what these games were supposed to really look like, due to the changes in screen technologies...  but if these games dont control well... then not only are you dissing on the people whom already Love these games... but you are turning off potential new fans...  due to inferior feel and control.

 The best salesmen do not try to force you to buy something... nor do they try to merely push a certain thing...  Instead, they ask the customer what he / she wants... and then educated them as to the product that will make them the most satisfied.

 Many have called up Sennheiser,  to ask them which headphones that they recommend, due to various differences in the models offered...  and from whats been reported..  they asked the users what kinds of music and sound types that they liked to hear... and gave them accurate and sound advice...   probably creating lifelong fans and future business.

 Had they tried to create a  "one-size-fits-all"   approach / product lineup  ... they probably woulnt have been in business today.   

 (Sennheiser was Founded in 1945.   Producing some of the most high-end audio gear... from Pro Microphones, to consumer grade and Audiophile Headphones.   Models from a few dollars... all the way up to their +$800 set.  The HD models 500 and up, all have removable / replaceable mini-jacked cables,  as well other parts like ear pads..   I cant recommend the HD models enough.   The comfort, durability, incredible 3d soundstage, clarity, and distortion free accuracy... are mind-blowing...  Sounding like you are listening to a full surround sound system...  and rivaling sound in full size speakers, in the multi-thousand dollar price ranges)


 Finishing up...   People dont have to build a Rotisserie to enjoy their favorite games the way that they remember, or was designed and intended.   They can choose many options, from single to multiple panels... extending to multiple cabinets, as well as use in real arcade machines... and hybrid dual use PCB+PC machines.   But on these units, they should be given the ability to use the controls that allow them the most authentic replication of their favorites.   Not a forced lackluster set of controller compromises.


[ and  " Pathetic"  is hardly a  harsh Response to an already harsher set of posts.   Narcs and mentally ill,  never let go of the past... they keep tallies on everything...  and pre-judge people as if people never grow or change.  Maybe part because the mentally ill person does not change.  Doesnt believe in it...  and can even actually believe that they are Gods / Chosen-Ones / Perfect / Omnipotent beings ...   ]

[Xiaou2]

 But no...  that place was hell.   One of the worst jobs Ive held...  and I have to actually put "Dishwasher"  above it.

  If your store isnt a super  high population dense area...  then your sales figures do not compete with the larger and busier locations...
As such... they dont like to send you too many new games.   They give them to the higher earning stores.   You end up getting their old crap.. that is barely partially working, beat up, filthy, and hack-butchered to hell internally.

 <<SNIP>>

...  getting zapped by a board or monitor,  fighting a major storm to get in... then being told to go back home (if your not stuck by the time they announce it)  .. and eating wretched mall food regularly.

 These are just a few of the daily fun events, of a mall arcade manager,  of 42 games.

This is why I keep reading your posts, X2. This one was interesting and compelling. I read the whole thing twice.

Can I have more of these and less of the other ones where you accuse people of personality disorders?

 Hello Token,

 Glad you could benefit from my suffering     heh.    Seriously, Its nice to ... and I like to share.


 As for the posts on disorders,  its a hot topic with me right now...  As I suffered most of my life, under Narcissistic abuses.  Both parents, and later,  living with an Uncle with visits from an Aunt... whom shared the disorder.   Beyond my own family... I had a few roommates and living situations, where I had to deal with them, a boss as well as most of my ex's,  and some random others...

 I wouldnt know what the Disorder was, until only recently.   The damages it does, is hard to even quantify...   and besides the mental and emotional damages (that took years of internal fighting to overcome)   and general strains...    I also suspect that my biological health has greatly been effected, as a result.   Everything is connected in some way...


 Ive since spent a good deal of time educating myself on the various forms, tactics, and terminologies, given to these abuses & abusers.
Its helped greatly in detecting warning signs, and further damages.  As well as helping to spread the word.. so that future others can not only break free of current abusers,  but also to help keep others from getting trapped by such Predators.

 I am the eldest Child of four.   I was the one whom got the greatest amount of abuses,  partly because I refused to back down and give in to the abuses.   Two of my younger siblings ended up getting married to Narc. abusers... and the third, I believe, is an abuser.

 They complained at times,  but they were trained to accept abuse at an early age.   They are generally to completely unhappy... and all of them have children stuck in the middle.

 Recently, my health took a nose dive.  I became super allergic to wheat, dairy, and eggs.  My abilities to enjoy life, withered slowly for over 10 years  (no energy, pains, and other health issues)   .. until it became so bad, that I could finally self-diagnose the main caused of my problems.

 During that time, I was living with Narc family.   As I got sicker... they got more and more mean in spirit and actions.   Narcs dont like to see people they feel are weak... as it reminds them of their own weaknesses.    The abuses got worse and worse... and it cause a sort of PTSD effect,  and made me reel in red hot fire of whole body pains,  as well as migranes that no pain meds could touch.

 Eventually I was forced out of the house, under false pretenses of a sale.    I ended up homeless in the last year... sleeping in my mini-van, for over 3 months... trying to get back on my feet from what these demons had helped do to me.

 Ive lost a good deal of my valuable possessions...  with them taking and selling them, for themselves.  (for gambling, drugs, etc)
And due to loss of work,  Im only a mere pinch away from losing everything in total.

 So as you can imagine,  this stuff is very fresh in my mind and heart...

  And rather than my previous self that ate a good deal of the abuse in silence... I now react to counter,  Especially when I get the same kinds of repeated words, phrases, tactics, attitudes, and abuses... that were so typically used on me, and in the playbook of Abusers / Narc. abusers.

 I advise all to explore the topic in depth, yourselves...  as its quite scary and enlightening at the same time.
It can help in realizing negative relationships, past wrongs, and help prevent future wrongs.

 Theres a  great youtube documentary on the subject.   The end contains a somewhat shocking surprise.

[Slippyblade]

X2...  Something to consider.

What are the odds that nearly every person in your life/world is crazy/wrong/broken and you are just fine?  If it seems like everyone is crazy and you are the only sane one, then odds are the true roles are reversed.

[BadMouth]

Is that all you have got?   You think you can try to abuse me, worse than the stuff from my own family?!

Usually I just accept that you have issues and give you a pass, but seriously.....
That's the kind of ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- my narcissist mother (who absolutely ruined Christmas for everyone again this year btw) says.
Your behavior is the most narcissistic of anyone in this thread.

Inability to see anything from other peoples points of view? check
Insanely harsh overreactions designed to get people to back off and do what you want? check
Resorting to the sympathy card when other tactics prove ineffective? check

Of course we both know holding a mirror up to a narcissist does no good.

[Xiaou2]

X2...  Something to consider.

What are the odds that nearly every person in your life/world is crazy/wrong/broken and you are just fine?  If it seems like everyone is crazy and you are the only sane one, then odds are the true roles are reversed.

 Thanks.  However,   Ive met many sane, and purely good hearted people in my life.   Ive also had a fairly healthy relationship.

 The problem is mostly, in that my early life,  I was abused and neglected so much... that I craved and responded drastically to any form of attention  (which I sort of took too much.. as a sign of  "Love").    When you are starved for food for a long time... when you see some... you go ape crazy over it.    Being starved of love, attention, affection, and any form of positive interaction... you also are somewhat extreme in your feelings, thoughts, justifications, actions, and reactions.

 The Narcissist is a predator.   They pray on internally weaker people like this...  They "Love-Bomb"  you initially,   Building you up,  praising you, paying you great attention and giving constant affection.   Then, once they feel they have got you hooked... they test the waters with some mild abuses... and mind games.  You pass them off,  ignoring them... taking what you feel is acceptable bad for the perceivable (self-painted) good.  This only gets worse over time...  and the abuses are vague,  hard to pin on them... because they are clever in their wordings.   They rely on our good nature of  "Benefit of the Doubt".    And they exploit it consistently... if you allow it.    And I sadly,  allowed a lot of it to happen.   Partly on a subconscious level.. and a lot on a conscious level too.  Feeling at that time,  that nobody else would accept me,  and that was all that I really deserved.

 You have to understand... that as a kid... I was constantly told I would amount to nothing,  would never have a girlfriend,  was a horrible person,  couldnt do anything right...   and was never hugged or loved.    Mostly neglected,  verbally beat up on,  or having mother start packing a suitcase with my things... threatening to kick me out... from age 10...  till I finally left on my own...  every few weeks.   It ruins almost any sense of self worth... and it soured the other relationships I could have had... because at the time, I was fearful, shy, angry, and a complete mental mess... wrapped up in the abuses,  self hate, hate for my position, family,  poverty, life period.    It took forever to change that perspective...   and to open up at all.  (I didnt even talk to anyone until 4th grade... and because of that..my voice was so underdeveloped and quiet.. that you could barely hear me, in a quiet room)
 
 Anyways...  I was lucky.   I was one of the few, whom were able to stop the cycle of abuse... and was able to pull myself out of a dark hole.  It was painful, and difficult.   I had one positive inspiration when I was young... my Grandfather (non blood).   I didnt see him much... but what little time spent with him... was enough to plant the seed in me.. to want and strive to be better.   I Thank the heavens for that blessing.

 I have a feeling that many others may in fact have experienced some form of abuse... but shrugged it off.   And or were better about realizing whom they were interacting with.   Maybe a lot more careful, slower to trust, and more cautious than myself.   

 Though,  Ive met many whom suffered the same kinds of abuses... from all walks of life.   Searching youtube,  I was somewhat amazed at the amount of abuses happening to others...as many victims have came forward to make vids... and many commenters are also posting their sad gruesome horror stories.

[Xiaou2]

Is that all you have got?   You think you can try to abuse me, worse than the stuff from my own family?!

Usually I just accept that you have issues and give you a pass, but seriously.....
That's the kind of ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- my narcissist mother (who absolutely ruined Christmas for everyone again this year btw) says.
Your behavior is the most narcissistic of anyone in this thread.

Inability to see anything from other peoples points of view? check
Insanely harsh overreactions designed to get people to back off and do what you want? check
Resorting to the sympathy card when other tactics prove ineffective? check

Of course we both know holding a mirror up to a narcissist does no good.

 Uhh... Badmouth... you really got it backwards man.

 You also have not suffered the typical abuses at this site, daily,  and often unprovoked.. that I have...
But.. you are free to believe whatever messed up reflection you wish.

 As for what you said about your Mother...  she didnt Ruin x-mas.   You, and anyone that came with you, ruined your own x-mas.

 You know what she is...  you know what she will say and do.   So you chose to allow it to happen... and then you choose to vent about your choice... while trying to hammer me?!

 Many of the things I was...  initially,  was mostly a product of my abuses.  But, I cant blame everyone for who I am... what I did.. and what happened to me.   I am always partial to blame.

 Like you...  I also initially tried to get along with my poison mother.   She would always turn it around,  and make me the bad guy... and or cut me down in some way.   No matter how nice or what I did.

 People tend to guilt you into thinking that family is family..  and that you should always forgive and forget.   But this does not apply to an abuser.    They have no guilt, remorse, empathy, sympathy.   They only have malice and darkness in their minds and hearts...  despite their good acting skills... and their mind games.

 Eventually, I stopped all contact.   Ive not spoken to her in about 8 years now...  and its been one of the best decisions that Ive ever made.
I came to realize... Why should I spend my time and energies going to see her... to get kicked around...   when I can go to visit true friends, that value my time and presence?!   Whom give me positive feelings, encouragement, and an ear to listen... and I the same for them.   Good Friends can be far better family,  than your own bloodline family.

 Dont take it personal.  Its merely my advice to you, to help better your life experience.    Break full contact, permanently.  Change phone numbers.  Even move if you must.   No calling.  Texting.  No emails.    And do not let their "Flying Monkeys"  try to temp or get you to contact.  If you must, break contact with other family members.. that enable her negative behaviors.

 And if the rest of your family agrees with your feelings.. then all of you should break contact.

 While some people have some Narcissistic traits...  some Narcs are at a level of complete disorder, and are not capable of normality as we know it.  The only change they make... is changing different games.   Thats all it will ever be...  constant Negativity.

 I hope you the best,  despite your poor assumptions and unfair judgements of me.

[Xiaou2]

The Narcissist is a predator.   They pray on internally weaker people like this...  They "Love-Bomb"  you initially,   Building you up,  praising you, paying you great attention and giving constant affection. 

You see, that doesn't sound like me. Building you up and praising you hasn't ever been my M.O.

Maybe I'm not the narcissist in this thread after all. 

Yes, You are the real Joke.   Sadly, Its not Funny.

 You still want some more supply?   Ok,  Ill give a little more... but I dont want to spoil you...

 Narcissists do not always Love-Bomb.   They tend to present themselves in an overly (often excessively and over the top) friendly way to people they want something from, or seek to possibly utilize at another time.   If said person bounces back with some form of positive response, praise, etc..  to their gloating, bragging, jokes...etc.. then they may choose to appear as close friends.  The Narc. is like a Vampire.  Its feeds on attention supply... as well as dishing abuses.   It often does not matter if the attention is negative or positive... as either causes focus to fall onto them from it.

 So the may appear to be your friend,  Until...  one day that said friend gets in their way somehow..  or does or says something they dont like.   Then the knives come out,  and backstabings or frontal abuses take place.  Either by themselves,  or via one of their monkey minions,  that they have so charismatically influenced. (or outright fooled / manipulated / blackmailed /  lied too..  )

 They appear to be quite interested in certain people... and ask them oodles of personal questions.   This is where danger takes place... because what they really are doing,  is reconnaissance.   Getting as much information and dirt out of you,  to possibly use against you in the future.    It could be to gain a horrible favor,  it could be to help set you up for a nasty fall.   These people can be Psychopathic or Sociopaths...  and so they are convincing actors,  yet lacking empathy,  and any form of a real moral compass.

 Narcissistic people can come in many flavors..  and while some are merely Egotistical,  others can be murderously psychopathic.   There are something like 13 traits... and if you have 5 of these traits.. they called it Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

 It goes a little deeper than that...  as really,  there could be compound issues...   Such as phobias, OCD, ADHD , in additition to their NPD.

 

[Xiaou2]

Is that all you have got?   You think you can try to abuse me, worse than the stuff from my own family?!

Usually I just accept that you have issues and give you a pass, but seriously.....
That's the kind of ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- my narcissist mother (who absolutely ruined Christmas for everyone again this year btw) says.
Your behavior is the most narcissistic of anyone in this thread.

Inability to see anything from other peoples points of view? check
Insanely harsh overreactions designed to get people to back off and do what you want? check
Resorting to the sympathy card when other tactics prove ineffective? check

Of course we both know holding a mirror up to a narcissist does no good.

 I have to add...

 Since I dont know you that well,  nor your Mother..  I should not be assuming what the real deal is.

 For all I know, and not to assume..   but you could be an Enabler..  like my grandmother.    She accepts the abuses from her children...  and then tries to defend them after the assault  (on herself,  me,  or anyone else...)    ... making up excuses for them.    Bailing 2 of them out of jail.  Covering all the lawyer fees for ones 4 DWI's.  Sending my father money she didnt have,  constantly.. using the 2nd? mortgage... so he could take all that money... and gamble it away.  He even took her car... that was low mileage and like-new...  and destroyed it in scratches and damages,  in less than a year of part time use... hauling junk and garbage around,  to fuel more gambling.  Guess who paid for the gas?

 One day I heard my father screaming at her,  making various threats... from false suicide threats  (hes too much of a coward to do such a thing),  to threatening to blow up some building /  harm people...  (Im surprised that didnt happen.. and yeah, he did work for the Post Office!)

 Typical ploys that he knows works on her.   He didnt know I was in... else he wouldnt have done it then.  I charge downstairs,  and unveil and repeat his psychological attack ploys to her... saying to him,  that its not going to work anymore,  now that Im here.   He starts to back down... but she pipes up and starts defending him... basically saying to mind my own business.   She later gave him the money, despite not having enough to pay the bills.  He gambled it... and cycle repeats.   

  He knows shes phobic,  and does nothing but take advantage of it in the most cold and calculating ways.   He has no sympathy about it.  No care nor concern for her welfare or well being.   He exploits the weakness, and happily carries on his path of destruction.  She is deathly fearful he would stoop to the lowest of levels...  yet somehow believes / convinces herself that there is good in him !!!   And defends and supports his vicious never-ending abuses.

 At xmas... its anyone's call which Narc will tick off the other.   There was Never a faultless sincere trouble free night.   Less than 2hrs in... and theres always a nuclear blow up.   One will certainly leave... going to the bar / do drugs / room...etc .   And yet, theres gram... trying to blame someone else for the uncalled for, over the top, cry-baby blow-up... as well as trying to justify the childish, rude, abrasive, and abusive behavior.   (  Ex:   "Ohh..  well,  hes been under a lot of stress at work lately."    "You (the abused victim of the hour), are too sensitive."  "He didnt really mean that." etc )

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 Or like my Brother...  whom I believe was mothers favorite  "Golden Child"  for a long time.   (until I moved out... then she needed a new whipping boy)    My Brother accepted his abuses... and his idea of "Love",  is being a doormat, being dominated, controlled, and being a punching bag.   He does not really understand what real equal love is... not what abuse is... and in many ways, he doesnt feel abused,  because hes built up a set of messed up rationalizations for all of the negative behaviors.  He is closest in nature to my Gram.  Phobias and all..  with some waxing and waning Narcissism traits.

 He hates that I left home when I was 16.. due to me unable to stand the abuses anymore.    He still holds it against me to this day.   He couldnt accept that I didnt bow down and accept her daily crappy treatment and abuses without fighting back.  He loved her awful cooking (he has no pallet)   and somehow he equated food to Love... ignoring and justifying everything else.  Hes a really weird cookie.

 Not long after ceasing relations with the witch,  I shortly stopped talking with all family period..  as each one had a negative impact in some way, shape, or form.   

 I had spent years of pushing myself to become better... but they... they fell.   They became entrenched in the abuses... and carry on the traits that they were born into...  with no real understanding, nor desire to change or repair things.

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 I really dont write all of this to say  "Poor Me".   I write it more for others to become aware of their own issues,  and possibly give strength and help to others to overcome their similar problems.


 All that said,   I am happy to listen to your, or anyone elses story,  and offer any help, insights, and suggestions.   (Feel free to PM me)
Ive gotten a lot of strength from reading others abuse stories.   It makes you feel far less like a lone target.

 There are certainly others whom have had it much worse than myself... and I truly feel for them as well.


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Inability to see anything from other peoples points of view? check

 - Not even close.   I am constantly spending time considering others points of views.   How a person might feel in certain circumstances.   Trying to envision walking in other peoples shoes.   I probably spend more time thinking about what others might be thinking and feeling... than my own self.

Insanely harsh overreactions designed to get people to back off and do what you want? check

 - My words here are not ever-reactions.  They are the sum total of a world that you simply do not understand.  As it looks like you may be in some sort of denial yourself.   A feeling that you have hit a somewhat self-imposed road block... that you dont want to deal with, fully understand, and move on from.  Holding it... like a hot coal... and letting it burn you.

 - My ideas on what I desire,  are fair as anyones elses...  and I have more than fair justification for my thoughts and feelings on this.
Im not forcing anyone to build nor do anything.   But I will offer my opinion, disappointment, desire for what I do want (and with money withstanding... more than willing to pay for)  ... and to spread the truths of my discoveries, and personal experiences, that back all of this.   

 That gives others the knowledge, and a fair choice.   It also helps preserve history... rather than suffer from distortions and misleading concepts, ideas, and emotional based reasoning.

Resorting to the sympathy card when other tactics prove ineffective? check

 Not even close.   I stated my reasons for why I was harder on Narcissist abusive traits.
Its a very powerful and impacting thing... It goes deep,  its damages recently are still fresh,   ... and the revelations as to what was going on all those years... finally makes some sense.

 One thing I would ponder a lot... was  "How could a Father,  threaten to chop up his 5 yr old son?"   How could he whip that kid on bare skin, with a metal coat hanger - leaving scars for life?   How could he throw his not quite 4 yr old brother, in the dryer... and actually turn it on... leaving him in there to tumble for some time?

 And when hearing what Narcissistic abuse was...  he fit every symptom to a tee.

 Its not that I longer needed a reason...  (but as a young child, it was painfully damaging to the heart and soul)  .. but that it felt so good to identify and start to unravel all of the abuses that happened in my entire life.   It helped somehow clean things further.... and the knowledge helps further protect me from current and future attacks.  Which is probably what feels the best overall.

 For an abuse victim is made to feel,  that everything that happens is in fact their fault somehow.
And when that chain breaks...  there is a freeing sensation.   Like breaking out of a life-long torture / prison.

[BadMouth]

[ You also have not suffered the typical abuses at this site, daily,  and often unprovoked.. that I have...
But.. you are free to believe whatever messed up reflection you wish.

 As for what you said about your Mother...  she didnt Ruin x-mas.   You, and anyone that came with you, ruined your own x-mas.

 You know what she is...  you know what she will say and do.   So you chose to allow it to happen... and then you choose to vent about your choice... while trying to hammer me?!

   Venting?  Only stating my first hand knowledge and ability to recognize one when I see one.
My reason for posting was that it pisses me off to see you use the term so loosely on anyone who challenges you.

Blaming others? check

Twisting things to make yourself out to be the victim? check

I could do this all day, but I have to make a living.
(and would rather dispense advice on arcade projects)

[Typefighter01]

Narcissistic

[saint]

This one's probably headed towards post hell but if people want to keep it going and can be civil ...

(expectations are low)

[harveybirdman]

This one's probably headed towards post hell but if people want to keep it going and can be civil ...

(expectations are low)

I sincerely hope you saw this on your own and decided to intervene, and that it wasn't prompted by something else....

[Ginsu Victim]

This one's probably headed towards post hell but if people want to keep it going and can be civil ...

(expectations are low)

Probably?!?

[BadMouth]

I see no point in continuing.

It's not like anyone is going to succeed in getting X2 to change his mindset.