Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine

[Rick]

I have an Oculus DK2 and really don't like it. To be fair it's probably because most of the software for it right now blows but maybe in a couple of generations it will be good.

I have that my Lenovo Y510P runs fairly well with it, but my gaming rig (running a midrange nVidia video card) runs the apps a lot better, especially anything with the new Unreal engine. It's ... different, but I don't think I hate it. I definitely like the "Virtual Desktop" app, and REALLLLLY LOVE the MaxVR program for running movies - it's like being in the theatre, without all of the annoying people.

[Generic Eric]

Wow this game looks amazing!!
Star Wars Trilogy is probably my favorite arcade game to play, this one looks just as good.

I have an Oculus DK2 and really don't like it. To be fair it's probably because most of the software for it right now blows but maybe in a couple of generations it will be good.

Are you a software developer?

[lilshawn]

I have an Oculus DK2 and really don't like it. To be fair it's probably because most of the software for it right now blows but maybe in a couple of generations it will be good.

I have that my Lenovo Y510P runs fairly well with it, but my gaming rig (running a midrange nVidia video card) runs the apps a lot better, especially anything with the new Unreal engine. It's ... different, but I don't think I hate it. I definitely like the "Virtual Desktop" app, and REALLLLLY LOVE the MaxVR program for running movies - it's like being in the theatre, without all of the annoying people.

it doesn't help they completely changed the way the system operates. The DK1 went through a similar growth curve of ---smurfy--- apps and terrible response. But near the end of it's cycle, most of the bugs had been worked out and the devs were pumping out apps like no tomorrow.

I, (luckily) sold my DK1 to a sucker a few days before the announcement of the commencement of the DK2  shipping and got over 2x the price I paid for it. I saw in the dev forum that the evolution of the DK2 had taken it in another direction for the tracking and decided to sell and hold out on purchasing the DK2 for exactly this issue. The CV is not far off and i'd rather wait till then. The DK2 was more of an experiment in tracking change than an actual working unit. The DK2 will never reach a "completed" dev status and devs begin pumping out apps like the DK1 did it will be orphaned...the CV is right around the corner now there is no need to push the SDK support for the DK2 to completed when they are changing it again.

[LightningBolt]

Wow this game looks amazing!!
Star Wars Trilogy is probably my favorite arcade game to play, this one looks just as good.

I have an Oculus DK2 and really don't like it. To be fair it's probably because most of the software for it right now blows but maybe in a couple of generations it will be good.

Are you a software developer?

Nope..err yes, but not for oculus. I know obvious question/answer is obvious "you weren't supposed to get it if you weren't a developer". I don't care, I have wanted VR for two decades but it ended up being a letdown. No loss though.

[Generic Eric]

Wow this game looks amazing!!
Star Wars Trilogy is probably my favorite arcade game to play, this one looks just as good.

I have an Oculus DK2 and really don't like it. To be fair it's probably because most of the software for it right now blows but maybe in a couple of generations it will be good.

Are you a software developer?

Nope..err yes, but not for oculus. I know obvious question/answer is obvious "you weren't supposed to get it if you weren't a developer". I don't care, I have wanted VR for two decades but it ended up being a letdown. No loss though.

I get it.

I had to exercise some restraint.  The cost helped with that. 

[Rick]

I don't care, I have wanted VR for two decades but it ended up being a letdown. No loss though.

Since the last time I played with a VR unit was shooting dragons and other people in the 'original' incarnation of VR, I'm still pretty impressed. The comments from lilshawn, above, however are giving me angina.

:S

[LightningBolt]

I don't care, I have wanted VR for two decades but it ended up being a letdown. No loss though.

Since the last time I played with a VR unit was shooting dragons and other people in the 'original' incarnation of VR, I'm still pretty impressed. The comments from lilshawn, above, however are giving me angina.

:S

Don't get me wrong the technology is very impressive especially the tracking. One demo I could literally walk around an apartment which was an awesome little experience. I suppose what I mean is that it feels like something cool to try but it doesn't have a long term appeal for me anyway. I'll still get another oculus once it's more of a mainstream thing with good software.

[Le Chuck]

One demo I could literally walk around an apartment which was an awesome little experience.

Wait, so what you're saying is that we have the technology to reproduce Kaneda's apartment?!  I can play the the games inside the simulation?!  I can lay on a TMNT futon?!  I can bask in the glow of ten thousand shades of carpet?! Who all knows about this?  Have we checked Craig's list?  Is there a "Kaneda's Apartment" experience on its way to my local Chuckee Cheese right now!?

[Generic Eric]

One demo I could literally walk around an apartment which was an awesome little experience.

Wait, so what you're saying is that we have the technology to reproduce Kaneda's apartment?!  I can play the the games inside the simulation?!  I can lay on a TMNT futon?!  I can bask in the glow of ten thousand shades of carpet?! Who all knows about this?  Have we checked Craig's list?  Is there a "Kaneda's Apartment" experience on its way to my local Chuckee Cheese right now!?

This train has jumped the shark and is off its rails!

[yotsuya]

One demo I could literally walk around an apartment which was an awesome little experience.

Wait, so what you're saying is that we have the technology to reproduce Kaneda's apartment?!  I can play the the games inside the simulation?!  I can lay on a TMNT futon?!  I can bask in the glow of ten thousand shades of carpet?! Who all knows about this?  Have we checked Craig's list?  Is there a "Kaneda's Apartment" experience on its way to my local Chuckee Cheese right now!?

Yes, but you have to wear these to get the full interactive experience....

[yotsuya]

"Hello, Chuck... I've been expecting you. Shall we play a game?"

[Rick]

Yes, but you have to wear these to get the full interactive experience....

I don't have to pee all over my own feet too, do I?

 

[Le Chuck]

Fixt - in a really disturbingly yet likely accurate way

[RandyT]

"Hello, Chuck... I've been expecting you. Shall we play a game?"

I got queasy just looking at the still

[yotsuya]

I just like how the quantum parallax distortion makes his toes look big and gappy.

[lilshawn]

that pic makes me have to pee.

he looks...comfortable? like that.

The comments from lilshawn, above, however are giving me angina.

:S

as it should. I'm GLAD the Rift has gone the way it has. It's better to have everything worked out with thousands of testers than to have another Google glass on our hands.

it will work itself out. just keep an eye on it. Oculus has a pretty good head start with regards to the R&D side of things...I'd be more worried that one of the "competing products" COUGHCOUGHProjectMorpheusCOUGHCOUGH get's pushed out the door, hits the masses and flops, tainting VR for another 25 years.

[Rick]

Oculus has a pretty good head start with regards to the R&D side of things... I'd be more worried that one of the "competing products" COUGHCOUGHProjectMorpheusCOUGHCOUGH get's pushed out the door, hits the masses and flops, tainting VR for another 25 years.

I'm actually quite impressed - the head tracking on the DK2 surpassed my expectations, and even if I'm stuck with it after devs have stopped creating stuff for it, I see it as being worth it...

I'm a huge movie fan, but people irk me. (I had a guy almost pick a fight with me a few weeks ago, when I was out with my son - I said, "would you PLEASE be quiet?!" when he was RECITING THE DAMN MOVIE LINES after each one was uttered... He told ME to "f off", if you could believe that. Fffffuuuuu... After I told him I'd get an usher, he was 'mostly' quiet. I certainly wasn't going to shush him for laughing at the funny parts.)

So, anyway, it's nice to have an app where you can look around, and see a bunch of empty chairs, and have a (virtual) HUGE movie screen looming in front of you. (Oh, and sound as loud as I want? Yes please.) For that reason alone, the DK2 gets a 'win' from me. Go go, anti-socialism!

[lilshawn]

Oculus has a pretty good head start with regards to the R&D side of things... I'd be more worried that one of the "competing products" COUGHCOUGHProjectMorpheusCOUGHCOUGH get's pushed out the door, hits the masses and flops, tainting VR for another 25 years.

I'm actually quite impressed - the head tracking on the DK2 surpassed my expectations, and even if I'm stuck with it after devs have stopped creating stuff for it, I see it as being worth it...

I'm a huge movie fan, but people irk me. (I had a guy almost pick a fight with me a few weeks ago, when I was out with my son - I said, "would you PLEASE be quiet?!" when he was RECITING THE DAMN MOVIE LINES after each one was uttered... He told ME to "f off", if you could believe that. Fffffuuuuu... After I told him I'd get an usher, he was 'mostly' quiet. I certainly wasn't going to shush him for laughing at the funny parts.)

So, anyway, it's nice to have an app where you can look around, and see a bunch of empty chairs, and have a (virtual) HUGE movie screen looming in front of you. (Oh, and sound as loud as I want? Yes please.) For that reason alone, the DK2 gets a 'win' from me. Go go, anti-socialism!

the loudmouths get louder and the silent suffer...until they snap and beat you to death with a tire iron.

[Rick]

the loudmouths get louder and the silent suffer...until they snap and beat you to death with a tire iron.

Ain't that the truth?

My favourite time was sitting watching The Punisher (Tom Jane, 2004) for the second time. I had seen it once previously, and had shushed a group all through the fight with 'The Russian'. Anyway, the scene starts up, and all of a sudden behind me, a guy goes, "Oh my god - OH MY GOD THIS IS GREAT!" and I shush him. The scene continues, he starts gushing over how exciting it all is, and I shush him again. He slaps his hands together, and says something to the effect of "HOT DAMN!" and I lose it - I turn around and say, "Do you mind? Please be quiet!"

It's quiet for the rest of the movie. When I get up at the end, I feel a heavy tap on my shoulder - I'm standing, a row down from the guy. I'm 5'9" tall. He's sitting, and I can already see he's taller than I am. He stands up - easily 6'4" - and leans in towards me. He says, "Hey man, I'm really sorry about all that - I just got really into the movie, that's all."

I'm sure you can imagine my adrenaline rush by that point, and I was now happy that it was slowly lowering. (While I wasn't too concerned that it would have become heated, and even if it had as I've been in similar situations, but I'm certainly not looking to pick a fight where I'll be the obvious underdog.) I told him all about how I missed the scene the first time I had seen the flick, and he apologized again, and shook my hand on the way out.

Maybe it's the fact that he was surprised that a small guy like myself would dare call a big guy like him out, but I like to think that there are all sorts of people in the world who aren't automatically douchenozzles when confronted for doing something wrong.

[yotsuya]

So, anyway, it's nice to have an app where you can look around, and see a bunch of empty chairs, and have a (virtual) HUGE movie screen looming in front of you. (Oh, and sound as loud as I want? Yes please.) For that reason alone, the DK2 gets a 'win' from me. Go go, anti-socialism!

You could also, you know, like pop a DVD in/stream a video from NetflixHuluAmazon and not have to wear anything over your eyes. 

[Rick]

You could also, you know, like pop a DVD in/stream a video from NetflixHuluAmazon and not have to wear anything over your eyes. 

I do that already (I have 15TB of storage on my Media Server) but it's really not the same. I presently have an older 42" Plasma and a Yamaha Soundbar with Sub that work nice for that, but when you put on the Oculus, it is seriously like you're sitting in a theatre. And yeah, I'm one of those guys who actually doesn't mind moving his head to watch a guy punch out the other guy. Only adds to the whole ambiance.

(...also doesn't hurt that the theatre is so much cleaner than my living room.)

[RandyT]

RE: Watching movies with goggles

You just sit down and fire up a flick, and a crook breaks in.  Sees that you are "checked out" and proceeds to leisurely fill his bags for two hours. 

Not for me.  I don't like not being at least partially in touch with my surroundings for that long.

[yotsuya]

RE: Watching movies with goggles

You just sit down and fire up a flick, and a crook breaks in.  Sees that you are "checked out" and proceeds to leisurely fill his bags for two hours. 

Not for me.  I don't like not being at least partially in touch with my surroundings for that long.

Replace the drumset with Rick. This is what I would do to the top of his head while he was "checked out".

[Rick]

Replace the drumset with Rick. This is what I would do to the top of his head while he was "checked out".

Wow, is this force-feedback ever realistic! I can almost feel these teeny-tiny raindrops hitting me on the head!



re: Randy - I hear you. I'm never alone, mind you. When those burglars break in, I'm sure my Wife would be actively shaking me to let me know. She sleeps like a log, but if there's a hushed, strange noise in the middle of the night, look out. Bionic hearing. It's spooky.

[lilshawn]

She sleeps like a log, but if there's a hushed, strange noise in the middle of the night, look out. Bionic hearing. It's spooky.

Evolution. The female has evolved over the centuries to actively listen for a crying baby during sleep. Me, forget it. I'm impervious to noise...light on the other hand, my eyelids may as well be transparent. I have electrical tape over every little light and display in my room. Even the little standby LED on the power supply INSIDE the TV casts a series of small circles on the wall that bugs the crap out of me.

considering buying a bunch of these: http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/eeb6/

[dkersten]

Replace the drumset with Rick. This is what I would do to the top of his head while he was "checked out".

omg, I saw that movie with my son when he was 14, and he brought a date.. I was sitting next to this 14 year old girl when Will Ferrel's nuts are blown up to the size of the entire screen, and the worst part was that it was the funniest part of the movie, so I was caught between one of the more awkward moments in my parenthood and laughing so hard it hurt..

As for getting attuned to hear a baby cry (or something out of place) I think it is learned.  In the first 16 years of being a parent I was so in tune to my kids sounds, if one of them woke up in an entirely different part of the house, I was instantly awake and sitting up.  And when someone broke in through my son's bedroom window, I was halfway up the stairs with a gun in hand before my wife had even stirred.  Fast forward about 5 years and you could drive a truck through my house and it wouldn't wake me, but my phone on vibrate will still wake me up instantly at 3 am and my reflex is to reach for glasses with one hand while turning on the phone with the other to see who it is.  (calls at 3 am suck ass, they are never good).

As for watching movies, my theater room is fairly soundproofed, no windows, only one door, down in the basement, insulated all around, floor up above was "unsqueaked" when I redid it and is pretty darn well insulated, two walls are solid concrete behind the drywall, the wall the screen is on faces bedrooms, and the 3rd wall is against stairs/laundry space, so it is about as isolated as you could get in my house.  Add the sound system cranked up to reference +10 and you are as effectively disconnected from the rest of the world as you can get.  Thieves could use a backhoe and a dump truck to scrape off my entire first floor while I watch a movie and I wouldn't be any wiser to it until I went upstairs for more popcorn.  I would probably notice Will Ferrel's nuts on my forehead though....  Just sayin.