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A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« on: September 26, 2014, 11:40:23 pm »
First, you are all to blame. While I enjoyed a little putzing around in the garage with power tools, trying to build cabs has actually made me feel like I CAN make something, which spirals into wanting a dedicated place.
So I just started getting quotes this week to break ground in the spring on an external building. The quotes for leveling the ground and concrete were lower than expected, quote for a building just a tad high, but doing the math, we have the budget to move forward.
Today I got home from work to find that the various utility companies have flagged their underground cabling, so I can now say nothing appears to stand in the way of what I have in mind.
The building plan is a 36x50x10 tall pole barn building with a nice porch off of the 50' side. It'll be a bit multi-purpose...lawn mower/push mower/atv/snow blower in the front by the overhead door, wood shop in the back 2/3rd's, with the eventual plan of a side room man cave for some arcade cabinets, and old couch, maybe a homemade skeeball or move the table games out of our basement, etc.

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2014, 11:49:31 pm »
Awesome!
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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2014, 02:03:34 am »
    OMG, whats the matter with you ,I mean Who puts a lawnmower in their arcade???.... Sounds like a really exciting project. ;)

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2014, 03:02:14 am »
Wow.  Totally jealous!  Keep us in the loop, we always want pics!

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2014, 09:30:19 am »

Since this is a scratch build, why not make the whole building look like a giant arcade machine  >:D

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2014, 12:01:56 pm »
Oh, the wife would LOVE that! I think she's happy knowing I can't do this kind of crap along the busy highway anymore with the new building location...

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2014, 01:01:18 pm »

That is hands down awesome, I love when people do stuff like that  :applaud:

But then I've been told I have a mess up sense of what is funny and amusing!

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2014, 02:38:30 pm »
Last summer I dropped the blade for that each and every time I mowed. Wife asked "just how long are you going to keep mowing that?". My answer: "Until Google Maps picks it up"
Last week I tried mowing a new design, but didn't get far before I realized that I don't yet have the skills with the new mower.
My planned design along the length of the acre, you ask?
A bunch of arrows and abbreviations...up up, down, down, left, right, left, right etc.

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2014, 05:08:49 pm »

A bunch of arrows and abbreviations...up up, down, down, left, right, left, right etc.

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2014, 05:54:18 pm »
A bunch of arrows and abbreviations...up up, down, down, left, right, left, right etc.

This is absolute win.  :cheers:

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2014, 07:31:27 pm »
I actually got as far as the 4 lines scalded into the ground and realized that I didn't space them far enough apart...and chances are, that was the last mow of the year.
Soooo...i'll have to try again in the spring.

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2014, 01:16:25 pm »
Now the real question is what road do I have to be on to see this  ???

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2014, 05:53:22 pm »
Highway 50 heading south out of Omaha :)
but right now you'll just see 4 straight lines that are way too close to each other to become arrows.
Funny thing, If you mow "Hi" all summer, the grass won't grow back in the winter. And light snow dustings will collect in the letters. So all winter you could see prairie grass with a white "Hi" in the middle.

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2014, 11:30:00 pm »
One more update of the fall...yesterday morning I had someone come out and level the ground for the new workshop (I'm calling my MakerCave!).
Contract for the building is signed...supplies will be delivered after 1/1 and they'll start building as early in the spring as weather allows.

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2014, 10:15:23 am »
Wow - this is cool.  I'm jealous.  My LOT is 50' x 120' total.  No room for crazy stuff like this.    :D

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2014, 11:22:18 am »
Totally understand...my first/last house had about the same sized lot. We fell into a pretty good deal here, buying 2 full acres, with a 3rd acre a couple years later....lots of room to do stupid stuff like oversized buildings!

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2014, 12:54:12 pm »
     Wouldn't concrete and cable trenching be easier to do now rather than in the spring when the ground is wet/frozen?

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2014, 01:41:37 pm »
well trenching shouldn't happen until sometime into the thaw. with that said, I admittedly don't fully understand the reasoning behind parts of the schedule....for instance concrete goes down after the building's up...?

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2014, 10:49:52 am »
It doesn't surprise me to hear they will pour the slab after most of the structure is up, but it does surprise me that they aren't knocking out footings now so they can get an early start on the structure next year.  But then maybe your ground is porous enough that an auger attached to a front loader can pop some holes even when the ground is frozen.

Around here the ground is still thawed even though we just hit a cold snap.  There is always a big rush in September and October to get any pending projects excavated and poured so the crews can work through the winter.  Anything not started at least in the planning stages by about March or April is probably not going to get done until the next year.  A lot of our ground around here is clay, and the frost line is 6 feet.  While frost seldom reaches more than a foot or two, when it is frozen, it is as hard as granite.  And it stays that way until April or May. 

I live in a city where even if you have the room, it is unlikely you can build much of a shop on your property.  Areas with larger lots usually have covenants in place that only allow 15 or 20% of the property to be covered with a roof.  My lot allows for 33% to be covered, but my house, garage, shed, and playhouse out back already cover about 28%, so I would have to lose the shed and playhouse to add on, and the only direction I can build is toward the alley, and I would be limited to maybe 20x15 in that direction because of easements and other city ordinances.  I had planned to do so for a while, but it would have been a big commitment as my house would grow in value to exceed the neighborhood and I couldn't sell and recover the costs, and I was married back then, so in retrospect I am very glad I didn't make that investment.  As it was I had to borrow to pay her half the equity, and I was lucky that the bank assessed it a little above market value so I could borrow enough against it to pay her off and keep the house.  That was the exact scenario that prevented me from making the investment in the house a few years before.

I have long contemplated the pros and cons of living outside of town where you can build freely on your land (and have larger lots) because I would ultimately love to have a decent sized shop.  But here that means well water, septic systems, satellite TV, crappy internet (if any at all), and poorly maintained roads leading into town.  While I can easily find good sized lots only a few miles from my current home (an not far from anything in the city), the idea of a 15-20 minute commute to work each day, or even to just buy groceries or grab a Redbox, ultimately turns me off of it.  Dodging deer and dealing with narrow roads where the locals drive like crazy people to shave a couple minutes off their commute to town (and consequently cause many road fatalities each year) is just not what I feel like dealing with every morning.  Also, I have little desire to haul my own water or deal with expensive and high maintenance water filtration systems (even though my family business is selling all that stuff).  Really, the only thing that appeals to me about living outside of town is that I would have carte blanche to build the ultimate shop.  I would do at least 30x30 for woodworking, and most likely do larger to accommodate a metal shop that doubles as a workshop for vehicles and has a lift.  Heated and cooled with full dust collection and explosion proof heating and ventilation would be a must, 10-12 foot ceilings to accommodate the big stuff, and a well thought out design are all the stuff of dreams that might one day be a reality, but only if I decide to build my dream house a few miles past the city line.

So I will have to put up with my 2 car garage as a shop, and starting this week I am parking in there again and therefore can't really start any projects, at least until this weather breaks.  It went from 70 degrees to -5 over the weekend, and I have little desire to be getting up early to scrape windows and warm up the car, so the shop has to pull double duty during the part of the year best suited for woodshop projects.  I am envious of anyone who can build a dedicated workshop, I look forward to more pictures.  :cheers:

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2014, 01:02:31 pm »
A lot of valid points that further make me love the house we ended up in.
I was worried about covenants 7 years ago when buying the house, but they expired within a few months of us owning the property, and the neighborhood chose to not renew them (and they were surprisingly lax compared to most covenants I've heard of). We do have a septic tank, but that hasn't been even remotely the problem I was worried about. County water which is substantially better than the local community water system (funny enough, we're maybe 1000 yards away from the community's water tower, but we get our water supply from miles away). Being a neighborhood we do get snow removal, though there has indeed been some battle there (we're the only house on our road, and had several neighbors have to back us up to get any snow removal/road maintenance.  We're also bordering a very major state highway (you can see it in my last photo) so the problem of idiot rural drivers hasn't been much of an issue at all.
It's funny you mention having to avoid deer....a few weeks ago we spent a weekend in St. Louis, having to follow the Missouri for the entire 6.5 hour trip home. We were driving pretty late at night, a rainy drive at that, and I was paranoid the entire trip about deer running out.  We didn't encounter a single deer until I finally turned onto my own driveway.

Anyway, back to the building...we signed the contract a few weeks ago, but we won't have materials delivered until after the first of the year...they give a pretty big discount as a way to keep their drivers busy through winter. That's really why no footings now. I did get dirt moved so that it has a chance to settle before then.

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2014, 03:08:03 pm »
       I was going to build a shop like that a few years ago, out on the farm, even got it leveled like you did, But in the spring it was all under water, apparently there is a high water table out there, so I started converting a house in town for a shop, Everything has to be scaled down (due to space) but it is in a commercial zone, so a paint booth is being constructed in the living room.... It is nice being in town however, Jenn is 2 min. from the hospital (in case of mishaps) and 5 min from all night shopping (drill bits and tacos) and the garbage dude comes every Thursday.

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2015, 03:44:21 pm »
Big red Santa sleigh showed up with a bag full of gifts.
Also found an issue when I applied for a building permit, so there's an extra week's delay while I deal with the county to resolve that, but things are starting to feel real.

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2015, 03:47:55 pm »
Awesome, santa brought you a cool white sub!

Always enjoy a good shop building project.  Only reason we even considered the house we ended up buying is it has a 20x40 garage/shop in the back yard.
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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2015, 03:52:55 pm »
Awesome, santa brought you a cool white sub!




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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2015, 10:13:32 pm »
Awesome, santa brought you a cool white sub!





 :laugh2:  had that exact same thought Eric.

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2015, 12:40:01 pm »
Last fall I had the ground leveled. Told the builder to let me know when he's ready as I didn't want to get a building permit too far in advanced.
Warning, I'm about to vent frustrations....

January ( a very mild January, I might add) builder lets me know that supplies are being delivered (see pictures above).  He shows up and is ready to build immediately. Have to put him on hold to get the permit.
Permit in the rural area went really quick, but had the extra time of getting the lots combined with the lot where the house sits...adds a couple weeks on to the time.
Builder comes back ready to build, puts a laser on the lot, and turns out that in the 48' distance, the ground is 2 foot difference, front to back. Why oh why did I not have the ground guy check level? Builder asks (and of course I agree) if it's ok if he goes on to other builds to keep his crew busy

So, about the time the ground guy is able to come back out, we get our one and only snow, and I end up with 3 foot drifts on this site. I end up hauling it away little wagon full at a time, but it takes 1.5 months before the ground is dried out to get the bobcat onto the site without sinking.   We finally get the entire site level within an inch.   Several weeks go by before builder is at available to start digging footings, and it's been raining nearly every day for 2 weeks.

Trying to think of the positives:  The longer this takes, the more I'm putting cash away for what will surely be a large list of items I didn't think to budget for, and working full time plus taking college courses, I guess I should be focusing on the upcoming finals in any available free time instead of working on this....

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2015, 01:41:14 pm »
Is this a pole Barn or free standing structure?

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2015, 02:14:07 pm »
As one who needs to build an outbuilding, so his CNC doesn't inhabit the dining room for any longer than it must, I'm watching this intently. (And I WISH I had your space!)

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2015, 02:58:46 pm »
Tired of the MDF sandwiches, huh?
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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2015, 03:03:49 pm »
36x48 pole barn. I'm planning on putting a separate room in the back as a small arcade, plus another smaller room at the front to use as a dedicated electronics work area.  And half my garage is currently jammed full of random supplies for the garage now...a huge work table someone gave me, scaffolding, electric supplies, etc, so I'm really wishing I could get my garage emptied before storm season brings along hail.

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2015, 03:05:24 pm »
Tired of the MDF sandwiches, huh?

Not as much that, more the sound. I'm presently upstairs, waiting on the end of a 2 hour cut. As for the MDF, I was shocked today to see how effective my dust shoe really is:



:D

Not too shabby, if I say so myself.

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2015, 07:51:37 pm »
I'm  watching your progress on this keenly brihyn,   this kind of project is on my horizon once I've found some suitable land.  :cheers:

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2015, 09:17:24 pm »
Jealous!! 

I wish I had that much space or room to build an external or second building to use!!    I'd like to see the progress of this as well!!!  Putting lawn mowers with the cabinets!!  Will the fumes be an issue to the people playing in the arcade?

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #33 on: April 21, 2015, 01:36:31 pm »
lawn mower will be just storage, at the front of the building next to the 10' garage door. Middle section will all be workshop, and the back corner is where I'd like to put in an arcade room, maybe 12'x20' or so.

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2015, 11:53:07 am »
finally..FINALLY....after staring at all of the supplies for over three months, the weather broke, the builder got caught up, and was able to begin.
Sounds like rain most of next week, so we'll see how much different it looks when I get back next weekend from MS Ignite...


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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #35 on: May 05, 2015, 03:24:10 pm »
Love workshop builds.  I'm in!  SUB


























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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #36 on: May 05, 2015, 10:03:48 pm »
They ended the day with one rafter up.

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #37 on: May 11, 2015, 04:08:13 pm »
Builder was able to get a few days in last week in between the rains, and spent a full day Saturday finishing up the initial frame. Today they're working on framing out the windows/door.

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #38 on: May 11, 2015, 04:29:54 pm »
Wow, your workshop is gonna be bigger than my house.  Niiiiice.

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Re: A different project thread: Woodshop excitement
« Reply #39 on: May 11, 2015, 05:42:46 pm »
Bigger than my last/first house  ;D