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viruses on Emumovies.com
« on: July 27, 2014, 01:40:39 pm »
I'm surprised so many of us still go to these sites.  I have a few sites I can trust..the others I get a virus or malware blocked by my software...I think it fully stops it I hope. Emumovies main page I think gives me a virus warning. alnera.eu ..but I can sneak in other ways and I get nothing.


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Re: viruses on Emumovies.com
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2014, 02:24:40 pm »
I'm not sure what you really expect. The sites to begin with are on the shady side. Nothing is clean these days. record and movie companies are seeding these movies to track you and serve you papers.

You either have to up your firewalls and make sure your virus protection is up to date and put up with possibly getting a virus by trying to steal a movie/game/software off a shady site.

or do it legit and buy it from walmart.  :dunno

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Re: viruses on Emumovies.com
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2014, 03:18:03 pm »
Works fine for me with no issues using Norton Internet Security (trusted site).  I've also tested it on a corporate lan running an enterprise version of McAfee and it's fine as well.

The URL should be:  http://emumovies.com/forums/index.php/page/portal

Sounds like some sort of adware or malware on your computer is re-directing the site to a malicious source or plug in.

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Re: viruses on Emumovies.com
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2014, 03:45:42 pm »
I've come across the alnera address when trying to prop up an XP computer long enough to salvage the important data a couple of months ago for a customer.

From what I can recall, it's a redirect site. Meaning that the site itself isn't a site you would normally visit under any circumstances but works like tinyurl where the site you want to visit is part of the alnera url. So when making the request (emumovies in this case) there is a number of redirects to half a dozen other sites to spoon feed your system a trojan, virus, whatever then your main site is finally loaded. If it actually gets that far.

I'm not sure how alnera initially gets into the middle of it all but I suspect the vector is an infected site, probably a broken forum or some other serverside script taking advantage of an unpatched Java engine on the client. Like what happened with PHPBB a few years ago. However by the time I had to deal with it, alnera was being injected into the URL by a Trojan already on the system.

If we assume for a moment that the main page of emumovies has the alnera javascript, it's not unusual for the rest of the site to not have the unwanted javascript. I come across depa.usst.edu.cn alot when Googling and none of my virus scanners or firewalls or whatever tool I have on hand ever flags this site. Yet my work PC flags it as a Trojan site without fail (from WebBlock IIRC). It is also the only PC at work to do so :dunno I've studied every packet to come across the wire for every page I get and still haven't found anything. So I'm lead to believe that only one page is infected causing the software to flag the entire site.

Back to alnera. If memory serves me, I think once you're infected and start getting that crap from alnera, you might have a trojan that pushes the HOSTS file out of the equation. Stabilizing something like that is tough and requires using a network and a 2nd PC that you have absolute control over to do the work. Otherwise, write it off as a loss and have a bonfire tonight.

As for that client? He never took my advice to set fire to the laptop and buy a new one with W7 or W8 installed once I moved his crucial, can't-live-without-them, files. I recently received another phone call to fix it again. Last time, it took me nearly 20 hours just to stabilize the computer. I might have enough money to buy the LCD arcade monitor drop in >:D :burgerking:
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Re: viruses on Emumovies.com
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2014, 08:15:15 pm »
i dont know how anyone uses the internet these days without an adblocker.  do yourself a favor, download chrome and install the Adblock Plus extension.  I've had no issues with emumovies and viruses/malware.

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Re: viruses on Emumovies.com
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2014, 10:28:24 am »
i dont know how anyone uses the internet these days without an adblocker.  do yourself a favor, download chrome and install the Adblock Plus extension.  I've had no issues with emumovies and viruses/malware.

this is probably the best advice one can be given in this situation.

most of the problems with torrent sites stems from malformed ads. It comes down to them trying to display the most ads for the most amount of money. Most times, a virus infected ad will pay the most.

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Re: viruses on Emumovies.com
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2014, 10:53:24 am »
Good advice.  Personally, I never go to emumovies.com on my arcade machine anyway.  I try to keep my arcade machine "barebones".  Plus I am a subscriber to emumovies content and I have access to the FTP instead where I have zero issues.

That said, if I need to surf the web I use my PC where I can install chrome, etc.

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Re: viruses on Emumovies.com
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2014, 01:34:29 pm »
i dont know how anyone uses the internet these days without an adblocker.  do yourself a favor, download chrome and install the Adblock Plus extension.  I've had no issues with emumovies and viruses/malware.
That is sagely advice. If you don't want to run an extension there and you are running Windows, you can always modify your Host file to block most Ad sites. For example:

http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/

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Re: viruses on Emumovies.com
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2014, 02:38:34 pm »
i dont know how anyone uses the internet these days without an adblocker.  do yourself a favor, download chrome and install the Adblock Plus extension.  I've had no issues with emumovies and viruses/malware.
That is sagely advice. If you don't want to run an extension there and you are running Windows, you can always modify your Host file to block most Ad sites. For example:

http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/

oh interesting, didnt know you could do it that way. makes sense

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Re: viruses on Emumovies.com
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2014, 11:26:20 pm »
Got reports of this over the weekend, right after I intentionally broke the tapatalk install trying to fix another issue.  I have the next few days off of work so I am going to dig in and see whats wrong.  But since tapatalk sends out notices to the browser and I broke it completely I have a feeling that is whats throwing the errors.  I've only had a chance to check with chrome and I have adblock installed so nothing is showing up weird on my end but I've had enough reports in the last few days to know there is a problem.  I'll get it fixed shortly. 

Sorry for the issue guys.  I would have addressed it sooner but I was working putting on a concert sunday and my thursday-sunday was comprised of 12+ hour work days.

As far as ads there are a couple Google ads for non signed in or basic members and they really bring no revenue in to speak of so I will be turning that off and see if that makes a difference.  Any info on what software is actually reporting the error/virus would be helpful.
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Re: viruses on Emumovies.com
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2014, 11:36:13 pm »
Ok the only report i have received is from knightrdrx and the others turned out to be people sending me to this thread.  I have tried all three main browsers with ads enabled and no matter what I do I can not get a report of anything malicious happening.  Can anyone else verify this.

Also, lilshawn, i'm sorry you think my site (emumovies) is shady but I can promise you the ONLY ad system I have ever used is Google and have never installed anything I would consider shady on it.  And its been running for 10 years now.  (Oh wait... I think your thinking MOVIES :)  EmuMovies = video clips and artwork for gaming front ends.  Not pirate stuff.)
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Re: viruses on Emumovies.com
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2014, 12:42:57 am »
You want to be real careful about Walmart.  I caught a nasty virus from someone in the Nintendoh Wii section.  Never again.
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Re: viruses on Emumovies.com
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2014, 07:00:48 am »
It doesn't happen all the time...perhaps when I don't go in through the main page. But my malware program says it blocks the infection..so I guess my computer is okay?

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Re: viruses on Emumovies.com
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2014, 10:22:10 am »
EmuMovies = video clips and artwork for gaming front ends.  Not pirate stuff.)

You don't own the rights to that intellectual property, yet you sell access to it. 

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Re: viruses on Emumovies.com
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2014, 06:43:22 pm »
It doesn't happen all the time...perhaps when I don't go in through the main page. But my malware program says it blocks the infection..so I guess my computer is okay?

The honest answer is, it depends. The short answer is, never assume any PC is OK. The funny answer is, yes but to fix it you must send me $5000 USD by loadable credit card. Go down to 7-11, purchase one, then give me the numbers.

There's a long answer but I'm typing this out on a virtual KB and it's annoying as hell.

However, next time you get that message hit CTRL+U and you'll see the source. Copy and paste it ... err maybe stick it in a  compressed file then attach it here so the forum script doesn't try to create a link from it.

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Re: viruses on Emumovies.com
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2014, 10:06:35 pm »
Also, lilshawn, i'm sorry you think my site (emumovies) is shady but I can promise you the ONLY ad system I have ever used is Google and have never installed anything I would consider shady on it.  And its been running for 10 years now.  (Oh wait... I think your thinking MOVIES :)  EmuMovies = video clips and artwork for gaming front ends.  Not pirate stuff.)

The whole game footage thing and fair use and copyright and all that jazz is all kinda gray. people have been slapped with copyright for much less than a few moments of game play footage.

I digress, i feel the issue was mainly with a rouge ad on the site. likely google has removed the offending ad already. No one wants to own up for the fact that these ad networks on "trusted" sites are responsible for the vast majority of virus infections these days, and they'll deny until you give up and go away.

I love adblock, but I want to support the sites i like. I also want to keep my schlong under wraps and not catch a case of the blikey...so on it stays... which sucks for the site operator.

Can you modify your ads so that only static ads are shown?... IE, only jpg/gif/png and not flash or java animations. a rouge ad can be made to infect your system in no time flat...and they are mainly java and flash ads.

that said, ive tried disabling adblock and spamming F5 on the emumovies site in an effort to see if an issue was still present... but like i mentioned, google has likely purged the ad from doubleclick.

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Re: viruses on Emumovies.com
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2014, 11:30:21 am »
Also, lilshawn, i'm sorry you think my site (emumovies) is shady but I can promise you the ONLY ad system I have ever used is Google and have never installed anything I would consider shady on it.  And its been running for 10 years now.  (Oh wait... I think your thinking MOVIES :)  EmuMovies = video clips and artwork for gaming front ends.  Not pirate stuff.)

The whole game footage thing and fair use and copyright and all that jazz is all kinda gray. people have been slapped with copyright for much less than a few moments of game play footage.

Reference? Which people?
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Re: viruses on Emumovies.com
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2014, 01:09:58 pm »
Also, lilshawn, i'm sorry you think my site (emumovies) is shady but I can promise you the ONLY ad system I have ever used is Google and have never installed anything I would consider shady on it.  And its been running for 10 years now.  (Oh wait... I think your thinking MOVIES :)  EmuMovies = video clips and artwork for gaming front ends.  Not pirate stuff.)

The whole game footage thing and fair use and copyright and all that jazz is all kinda gray. people have been slapped with copyright for much less than a few moments of game play footage.

Reference? Which people?

IF the use of copyrighted material does not qualify as "fair use" under the law, then it must be authorized by the copyright holder, otherwise it is infringement and illegal.

EDIT: it seemed like the most fitting word for the general douchebaggery that happens when a company see it's IP someplace it shouldn't be. Usually a "take it down or else" notice is enough for most people and they just take them down rather than try and deal with it.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/12/11/youtube-unleashes-strange-storm-of-copyright-claims-on-video-game-content-producers/

http://www.cmsimpact.org/fair-use/related-materials/codes/code-best-practices-fair-use-online-video

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Re: viruses on Emumovies.com
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2014, 03:28:53 pm »
A while back I installed a forum on our webserver for intercompany use.  Then I found, on the same forum site, a free package of avatars and I downloaded and installed them.  I never really looked at the avatars, it was like a pack of 10,000 or something.  The forum was lightly used by employees for a while, but aside from a few departments, doesn't really get used much any more.  About a year ago I get a letter from some legal firm who is suing us for copyright infringement.  They want $5,000 per image to drop the case. 

See, while the forum was private, the directory that the files got stored in was not locked down, so it was technically possible for someone to find those images from outside our network.  The company owns a ton of copyrighted images (mostly random looking photos they bought from the photographer).  They have a scan engine that scours the internet looking for those images or even partials of those images, and they found a few in that directory on our webserver.  The images in question were just random photos of a beach or a sunset or something.

I blew it off as a scam, but as a precaution I sent it on to our lawyer.  He agreed with me but just to put it to rest, he sent a letter saying that A) the images in question were unintentionally stored on our server and we didn't know they were copyrighted, B) the images in question were never used by any employee, for personal or business use, and C) the moment we were made aware that there might be a copyright issue, the images were removed.

A year later, they are still pursuing it, and it has cost us money to continue to have the lawyer go rounds with these guys. 

Bottom line: If someone has the resources and sees an opportunity, even if you have not used it for any kind of revenue stream, they WILL come after you for money.  Whether they can win in court or not is irrelevant, they know as well as you do that if they file the papers, it will cost you money to have a lawyer respond, and they bank on you deciding to cut your losses and pay them a fraction of what you would pay your lawyer to fight them. 

I don't agree with it, but I can vouch for the fact that if it is copyrighted and you are using it without permission or without paying royalties, you are opening yourself up to a liability. 

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Re: viruses on Emumovies.com
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2014, 08:09:15 pm »
Ok the only report i have received is from knightrdrx and the others turned out to be people sending me to this thread.  I have tried all three main browsers with ads enabled and no matter what I do I can not get a report of anything malicious happening.  Can anyone else verify this.

Also, lilshawn, i'm sorry you think my site (emumovies) is shady but I can promise you the ONLY ad system I have ever used is Google and have never installed anything I would consider shady on it.  And its been running for 10 years now.  (Oh wait... I think your thinking MOVIES :)  EmuMovies = video clips and artwork for gaming front ends.  Not pirate stuff.)

I don't want to be a butt here, but I am willing to bet that depending on who you talk to, they might disagree with you. You don't own any rights to the media depicted that you are distributing and last time I checked you also ask for membership fees to access a members only section. I'm pretty sure whoever owns the rights to the games media could ask you to remove their content and they'd have every legal right to do so. I happens on YouTube all the time.