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LED BUTTONS
« on: August 12, 2013, 02:11:07 am »
Is there a way to set LED  buttons to turn on depending on game.  example player 1 has 6 buttons if im gonna play mario bros only 2 buttons shld b on or all six for Street fighter? :dunno and also how to get power to led buttons Thanks.
dunno if this arcade amp has diferent voltage on all outputs can some one point me if i can use any ports to connect second fan (12v) or led arcade buttons?

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2013, 03:37:32 am »
GGG has the LED-Wiz.

Ultimarc has the PacLED64.

There are many threads like Nephasth's Two-Headed Beast build that can provide more info on these products and using them with many front ends and/or the LEDBlinky program.

The controllers will probably need an external power source since the current limit via USB is 500 mA (100 mA if connected to an unpowered hub) -- 12 RGB buttons @60 mA per button would draw 720 mA.

***Example only, check the specs on the buttons you choose and leave yourself some wiggle room on the current rating of the power supply.***


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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2013, 01:15:47 am »
LEDwiz or PacLED64 ? :dunno im using maximus arcade...??? ???

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2013, 01:40:38 am »
How many channels do you need?  Ledwiz supports 32, Pacled supports 64.

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2013, 01:43:28 am »
How many channels do you need?  Ledwiz supports 32, Pacled supports 64.
idk what ya mean whit channles  (noob) im planing to have  20 buttons. and if you know the best brand of led buttons that will b kool :afro: im ready to order

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2013, 02:28:04 am »
How many channels do you need?  Ledwiz supports 32, Pacled supports 64.
idk what ya mean whit channles  (noob) im planing to have  20 buttons. and if you know the best brand of led buttons that will b kool :afro: im ready to order

Each channel can be controlled independently to set the brightness like a light dimmer switch.

If you are using single color LED buttons, 20 buttons = 20 channels.

If you are using RGB (Red/Green/Blue) buttons, 20 buttons = 60 channels. (20 Red / 20 Green / 20 Blue)

An RGB button allows you to set a variety of colors by controlling the levels on the red, green, and blue channel you associate with that button -- picture the red, green, and blue pixels on a monitor combining to make different colors.

You can mix and match RGB and single color buttons on one controller IIRC.


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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2013, 10:14:10 pm »
thanks Scott  :cheers:   Any or the best brand available by ne chance I want the bottons to bright even when the light is on..(room)

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2013, 10:18:25 pm »
You might want to check out this thread: RGB pushbutton showdown.  It has a nice comparison of the various brands of LEDs/buttons.

FWIW, I don't think there's really a "best" brand.  It largely comes down to individual characteristics of the LEDs.  Some are made to fit specific buttons, some are made to retrofit various buttons, and so on...
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Re: Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2013, 10:22:39 pm »
thanks Scott  :cheers:   Any or the best brand available by ne chance I want the bottons to bright even when the light is on..(room)

Here are some buttons that are/can be used with rgb leds

http://www.ultimarc.com/ClassicRGB.html
http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=238
http://www.paradisearcadeshop.com/product.php?id_product=275

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2013, 10:24:00 pm »
I have the clear buttons. But I swapped out the centers with black ones

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2013, 10:25:10 pm »
I have the clear buttons. But I swapped out the centers with black ones

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2013, 10:27:54 pm »
You might want to check out this thread: RGB pushbutton showdown.  It has a nice comparison of the various brands of LEDs/buttons.

FWIW, I don't think there's really a "best" brand.  It largely comes down to individual characteristics of the LEDs.  Some are made to fit specific buttons, some are made to retrofit various buttons, and so on...
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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2013, 10:38:12 pm »

Here are my buttons

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2013, 11:17:45 pm »
LEDwiz or PacLED64 ? :dunno im using maximus arcade...??? ???

I'm fairly certain MA has built-in LEDWiz/LED Blinky support. But I don't know that PacLED64 won't work with MA.

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2013, 11:21:32 pm »
how but this one for power (planing to use smart power strip) and set this button  to turn on all the system......... :timebomb:

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2013, 11:42:55 pm »
Is there a way to set LED  buttons to turn on depending on game.  example player 1 has 6 buttons if im gonna play mario bros only 2 buttons shld b on or all six for Street fighter? :dunno and also how to get power to led buttons Thanks.
dunno if this arcade amp has diferent voltage on all outputs can some one point me if i can use any ports to connect second fan (12v) or led arcade buttons?


Enough info provided for LED power so I will not add.  The picture however shows that these 2 terminals burnt up a 12 V fan.  This is due to the 2 terminals being the 120V going to the cab. The other fan in the pic is a 115/120V ac fan.
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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2013, 11:46:11 pm »
Is there a way to set LED  buttons to turn on depending on game.  example player 1 has 6 buttons if im gonna play mario bros only 2 buttons shld b on or all six for Street fighter? :dunno and also how to get power to led buttons Thanks.
dunno if this arcade amp has diferent voltage on all outputs can some one point me if i can use any ports to connect second fan (12v) or led arcade buttons?


Enough info provided for LED power so I will not add.  The picture however shows that these 2 terminals burnt up a 12 V fan.  This is due to the 2 terminals being the 120V going to the cab. The other fan in the pic is a 115/120V ac fan/
how bout the other ports???????

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2013, 12:09:28 am »
Don't know what you refer to as ports.   The arcade PS is a source of 5V and 12V as marked on the terminal strip.  There is usually an AC Line Neutral and Ground that are inputs to the power supply.  The Ground is for the AC ground and is not related to the ground for the 5V and 12V.

So use 12V or 5V depending on what your LEDs require.

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2013, 12:43:14 am »
Don't know what you refer to as ports.   The arcade PS is a source of 5V and 12V as marked on the terminal strip.  There is usually an AC Line Neutral and Ground that are inputs to the power supply.  The Ground is for the AC ground and is not related to the ground for the 5V and 12V.

So use 12V or 5V depending on what your LEDs require.
great tysm so now i have to spend $25\30 to get another fan. hope i use the right terminals from the arcade amp this time and dont burn my 25 led buttons :notworthy:

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2013, 06:36:58 am »
I have the clear buttons. But I swapped out the centers with black ones

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Yeah I really love those buttons now. I also think that spray painting the inner plunger made them look better when the leds are off. I also have no lightbleeding :)

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2013, 01:20:40 pm »
how but this one for power (planing to use smart power strip) and set this button  to turn on all the system......... :timebomb:

I want one of those, badly.  I had the hardest time finding them with the power image on them, I was only able to find them with the ring and a solid metal button.

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2013, 01:58:37 pm »
how but this one for power (planing to use smart power strip) and set this button  to turn on all the system......... :timebomb:

I want one of those, badly.  I had the hardest time finding them with the power image on them, I was only able to find them with the ring and a solid metal button.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/16mm-12V-BLUE-Led-Lighted-Push-Button-Metal-Momentary-Switch-for-Car-Boats-DIY-/271107000518?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1f3c88c6

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2013, 02:09:18 pm »
Don't know what you refer to as ports.   The arcade PS is a source of 5V and 12V as marked on the terminal strip.  There is usually an AC Line Neutral and Ground that are inputs to the power supply.  The Ground is for the AC ground and is not related to the ground for the 5V and 12V.

So use 12V or 5V depending on what your LEDs require.
great tysm so now i have to spend $25\30 to get another fan. hope i use the right terminals from the arcade amp this time and dont burn my 25 led buttons :notworthy:

I TOLD YOU NOT TO HOOK A FAN UP TO THOSE IN YOUR OTHER THREAD
I also told you to hook it into the 12v on the power supply.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,133864.msg1379215.html#msg1379215

That being said, why are you spending 25-30 on a $5 PC fan? I'm hoping the big letters will help you to actually read this time.
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« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2013, 02:18:44 pm »
Don't know what you refer to as ports.   The arcade PS is a source of 5V and 12V as marked on the terminal strip.  There is usually an AC Line Neutral and Ground that are inputs to the power supply.  The Ground is for the AC ground and is not related to the ground for the 5V and 12V.

So use 12V or 5V depending on what your LEDs require.
great tysm so now i have to spend $25\30 to get another fan. hope i use the right terminals from the arcade amp this time and dont burn my 25 led buttons :notworthy:

I TOLD YOU NOT TO HOOK A FAN UP TO THOSE IN YOUR OTHER THREAD
I also told you to hook it into the 12v on the power supply.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,133864.msg1379215.html#msg1379215

That being said, why are you spending 25-30 on a $5 PC fan? I'm hoping the big letters will help you to actually read this time.
ccrab thanks well im getting another fan same as the one im using right now so now i can use those terminals the other fan is already in the trash
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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2013, 02:22:42 pm »
You know, the normal font size and color works pretty nicely, too.
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« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2013, 02:29:47 pm »
You know, the normal font size and color works pretty nicely, too.
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« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2013, 03:08:38 pm »

You know, the normal font size and color works pretty nicely, too.
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« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2013, 03:19:09 pm »
I want to play too


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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2013, 03:39:51 pm »
how many buttons can j-pac control ( right now im using 10 (not using xtra ports in j-pac jet)???

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« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2013, 03:46:59 pm »
how many buttons can j-pac control ( right now im using 10 (not using xtra ports in j-pac jet)???

4 per player, plus coin and start, right?
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« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2013, 03:54:30 pm »
how many buttons can j-pac control ( right now im using 10 (not using xtra ports in j-pac jet)???

4 per player, plus coin and start, right?


nuuuuu it does the standard jamma and has 3 or 4 extra per player on the top. so at least 6 or 7 per
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« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2013, 06:45:29 pm »
You're right, it had the extra terminals. I was just thinking JAMMA
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« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2013, 07:28:23 pm »
ok so im planning to install  19 led buttons ( 2 players)   (12)6 for each player  2 for coins 2 for start  and three for Maximus Arcade (1)esc.(1)home.(1)enter my show case 33" is for 4 players but i only see player 3 and 4 harness hanging ( not connected to jamma h.) how do i connect this so i can use more buttons??  :dunno  oooh also what type of quick disconnect harnes r good for speakers and power my arcade comes in two pieces so when i moved will b nice to just disconnect and connect ( not cuting cable everytime)
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« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2013, 12:33:26 am »
Since you only have a 2 player control panel you would need to build a 4 player control panel to connect the hanging wires for player 3 and 4.


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« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2013, 12:46:13 am »
Since you only have a 2 player control panel you would need to build a 4 player control panel to connect the hanging wires for player 3 and 4.
what im trying to do is connect player 3 or 4 to jamma harness and use those buttons for   maximus arcade options like esc. home. enter ....

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« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2013, 01:25:38 am »
What encoder/interface are you using?

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« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2013, 01:27:31 am »
What encoder/interface are you using?
mmmmm encoder.... i gues is winpac  thats encoder?

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« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2013, 01:37:40 am »
What model Ipac are you using?

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« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2013, 01:38:32 am »
What model Ipac are you using?
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« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2013, 01:46:43 am »
You need to add an ipac to your jpac to allow the inputs for players 3 and 4 along with adding all the buttons and joysticks to you panel.

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« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2013, 03:27:16 am »
You need to add an ipac to your jpac to allow the inputs for players 3 and 4 along with adding all the buttons and joysticks to you panel.
i think im going to do the shift option...

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« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2013, 08:00:52 am »
You need to add an ipac to your jpac to allow the inputs for players 3 and 4 along with adding all the buttons and joysticks to you panel.

I think he's trying to use the P3 and P4 harnesses for his buttons and not actually have a set up for 4 players. I think he's missing the basics of

1) You dont need to use the existing harnesses
2) All buttons share a common ground
3) You just need to run a wire from the terminals on the JPac to a button (and share a ground) for the button to work
4) Read before trying things
5) researching a little before asking what can be considered very easy questions that are easy to find answers to
6) 120v AC isnt the same as 12v DC

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2013, 09:25:45 am »
You need to add an ipac to your jpac to allow the inputs for players 3 and 4 along with adding all the buttons and joysticks to you panel.

I think he's trying to use the P3 and P4 harnesses for his buttons and not actually have a set up for 4 players. I think he's missing the basics of

1) You dont need to use the existing harnesses
2) All buttons share a common ground
3) You just need to run a wire from the terminals on the JPac to a button (and share a ground) for the button to work
4) Read before trying things
5) researching a little before asking what can be considered very easy questions that are easy to find answers to
6) 120v AC isnt the same as 12v DC

Thanks for the clarification Malenko.   I do not understand exactly what he is trying to accomplish with all the questions that do not seem to have a common goal.   I thought it would be a stretch trying to turn a 2 player panel into a 4 but I don't judge, I just try to provide info on the process.

Thanks Bob

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2013, 11:49:29 am »
Well sorry for my bad English there's no spanglish forums arround. What I'm trying to do is connect some of  the 3th or 4th player cable buttons in to the Jamma harness .can't connect more on j-Pac already using all terminals. In few words I'm trying to go from Jamma to j-Pac....

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2013, 11:56:39 am »
Well sorry for my bad English there's no spanglish forums arround. What I'm trying to do is connect some of  the 3th or 4th player cable buttons in to the Jamma harness .can't connect more on j-Pac already using all terminals. In few words I'm trying to go from Jamma to j-Pac....

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #45 on: August 16, 2013, 12:06:57 pm »
If you are already using all the extra terminals on the jpac for buttons you have to add another interface to add more buttons.   I now see you don't want player 3 and 4 to use just more buttons.  An additonal ipac or other keyboard interface would have to be added since all the jpac is used.

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« Reply #46 on: August 16, 2013, 12:13:31 pm »
Well sorry for my bad English there's no spanglish forums arround. What I'm trying to do is connect some of  the 3th or 4th player cable buttons in to the Jamma harness .can't connect more on j-Pac already using all terminals. In few words I'm trying to go from Jamma to j-Pac....

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #47 on: August 16, 2013, 12:22:05 pm »
Well sorry for my bad English there's no spanglish forums arround. What I'm trying to do is connect some of  the 3th or 4th player cable buttons in to the Jamma harness .can't connect more on j-Pac already using all terminals. In few words I'm trying to go from Jamma to j-Pac....

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #48 on: August 18, 2013, 02:19:24 pm »
 :cheers: Thanks Boba I ordered 20 led buttons and 18 awg cable  now need to find 12v from computer or arcade amp... Cross my fingers.   :notworthy: btw can I ground LED with ground from button?
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« Reply #49 on: August 18, 2013, 03:18:55 pm »
:cheers: Thanks Boba I ordered 20 led buttons and 18 awg cable  now need to find 12v from computer or arcade amp... Cross my fingers.   :notworthy: btw can I ground LED with ground from button?

get a Molex (4 pin power 8189 series) splitter, put it in your computer, tap the yellow for 12v and the black for ground. Dont wire in the grounds with the buttons, its usually best for beginners to keep wiring sets isolated from one another.
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« Reply #50 on: August 18, 2013, 09:51:42 pm »
:cheers: Thanks Boba I ordered 20 led buttons and 18 awg cable  now need to find 12v from computer or arcade amp... Cross my fingers.   :notworthy: btw can I ground LED with ground from button?

get a Molex (4 pin power 8189 series) splitter, put it in your computer, tap the yellow for 12v and the black for ground. Dont wire in the grounds with the buttons, its usually best for beginners to keep wiring sets isolated from one another.
got ya ...my control panel is litle far since i have the showcase and i have to run the 12v and ground from pc to control panel 1 line of each will b enough for all buttons i just splice from one to other i think they calle that daysi somthing daisy duck????

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2013, 09:00:43 am »
Daisy Chain.


You can run 2 wires (+12v and ground) from your power supply to your control panel, then splice/chain from there
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« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2013, 09:28:07 am »
Daisy Chain.



Not to be confused with Daisy Duck . . .


. . . or Daisy Duke.



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« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2013, 08:16:35 pm »
 :laugh2:  " DAISY CHAIN"   hey running one 12v per player will make diference on brightness?

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Re: LED BUTTONS
« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2013, 09:49:47 pm »
not likely.
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