KADE Encoder and Kick Starter Project

[degenatrons]

The KADE encoder is about ready to launch as a KickStarter project and we're really pleased to announce this to the community,  who will hopefully support the project,  and contribute to it's future development.

Our aim is to make it easy for arcade enthusiasts, stick builders and retro gamers to interact with their computers, consoles and DIY arcade projects.  This is made possible with a ground breaking combination of open source hardware, and software.

KADE = Kick Ass Dynamic Encoder

This video provides a comprehensive introduction to KADE,  the hardware,  the software and the development team.



Please take a few minutes to watch the video and we appreciate your comment.

Further information about KADE and the imminent KickStarter project will be posted here.

[kuchta]

Great video! I love the idea of the removable AVR. I'm excited to try this out in an Xbox-based bartop that I'll be starting in the near future.

I might have missed it, but was are the differences between the free and paid versions of the KADE Loader software? Is it the customization options that were demoed in the video?

Also, any idea on pricing yet?

[opt2not]

Also, any idea on pricing yet?

^^ this.

Cost is probably my #1 concern on whether or not I would purchase this over the competitors.

[PL1]

I might have missed it, but was are the differences between the free and paid versions of the KADE Loader software? Is it the customization options that were demoed in the video?

You are correct.

Free version allows you to use the default keymaps.

Paid version allows you to customize them.


Scott

[404]

pure joy. I think i just pooped myself

[yotsuya]

pure joy. I think i just pooped myself

Rablack97, is that you?

[404]

pure joy. I think i just pooped myself

Rablack97, is that you?

nope. lost me on that one

[PL1]

pure joy. I think i just pooped myself

Rablack97, is that you?

nope. lost me on that one

Rodney's "messed trouser" comments are a running joke from Griffindodd's build thread, but they involved the other side and a different color.


Scott

[Unstupid]

If you are selling that as a 2 player encoder you need more than 10 inputs per player.  u,d,l,r,coin,start,6 buttons = 12/player minimum

[degenatrons]

If you are selling that as a 2 player encoder you need more than 10 inputs per player.  u,d,l,r,coin,start,6 buttons = 12/player minimum

The encoder can be configured to use 20 pins in whatever way you like.   This may be adequate for some 2 player setups.
You are right,  you will need 2 KADE devices for a 2 player,  6 button setup.

[Le Chuck]

Can a single unit be ID'd as two separate uhid joypads?

Either way, great work in building this out to this level.

[Eldritch1969]

I dig the idea of the removable programmable interface unit. Might consider to become a supporter of yours 

[404]

I'm enthusiastic. My only concern is why continue to use the minimus when there is such few stock left of them out there on the open market?

[degenatrons]

I'm enthusiastic. My only concern is why continue to use the minimus when there is such few stock left of them out there on the open market?

Good question.
We have good stock of these boards and there is plenty supply that we have negotiated with supplier.   
This gets our project up and running.

Expect there to be many development phases to this project.  We have lots of ideas for board variations.
Minimus is built on very common Atmega microcontrollers (at90usb162 and atmega32u2).  We have found compatible AVR boards with plentiful stock.  It is also an option for us to build or commission our own AVR for KADE.

KADE Loader has support for Arduino and other boards too.  I just chose to leave that out of the detail for the moment.  Initially we are focussed on the one device,  built from Minimus, with AVR GCC firmwares. 

[degenatrons]

Also, any idea on pricing yet?

^^ this.

Cost is probably my #1 concern on whether or not I would purchase this over the competitors.

Will get information on cost to you as soon as we launch our KickStarter project.  That happens before end of November.   

[degenatrons]

Can a single unit be ID'd as two separate uhid joypads?

Either way, great work in building this out to this level.

Hey thanks Le Chuck
Currently the unit identifies as one device.  I will note this as a possible feature for future USB HID firmwares.

[Yvan256]

Very neat idea to use regular microcontrollers and sell the programming software on its own as well as offering boards to connect to the wires. I really like the idea of a board that stays inside the cabinet with the wires and has a removable microcontroller.

Since I already have an Atmel STK500 right here on my desk, I'm also happy to hear that the software will be sold as a stand-alone product. Heck, maybe even sell pre-compiled firmwares along with wiring schematics for a few dollars while you're at it, for the do-it-yourself crowd? It would help fund the hardware side of the project, IMHO.

[bootsector]

Very neat idea to use regular microcontrollers and sell the programming software on its own as well as offering boards to connect to the wires. I really like the idea of a board that stays inside the cabinet with the wires and has a removable microcontroller.

Since I already have an Atmel STK500 right here on my desk, I'm also happy to hear that the software will be sold as a stand-alone product. Heck, maybe even sell pre-compiled firmwares along with wiring schematics for a few dollars while you're at it, for the do-it-yourself crowd? It would help fund the hardware side of the project, IMHO.

Firmware sources will be made available to the public as open source software. No cost. At all. Anyone will be able to get, customize, compile and burn without issues.

bootsector

[404]

Very neat idea to use regular microcontrollers and sell the programming software on its own as well as offering boards to connect to the wires. I really like the idea of a board that stays inside the cabinet with the wires and has a removable microcontroller.

Since I already have an Atmel STK500 right here on my desk, I'm also happy to hear that the software will be sold as a stand-alone product. Heck, maybe even sell pre-compiled firmwares along with wiring schematics for a few dollars while you're at it, for the do-it-yourself crowd? It would help fund the hardware side of the project, IMHO.

+1

At the moment however, i'm far more interested in getting my hands on one of the minimus docks.

[floriske.nl]

Nice Video Jon!

Great to see some more detail on the boards I hope to be using soon! Looking very promising!

[sharpfork]

Nice Video Jon!

Great to see some more detail on the boards I hope to be using soon! Looking very promising!

We are looking forward to your feedback.  I'm a fan of your smart two player bartop design and look forward to seeing a couple of KADEs in there.
 

I'm Kevin, the guy with the beard in the video BTW.

[arno]

Very nice to see! This could be a great encoder.

You have a pm

[bootsector]

KickStarter is Live:

 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kadevice/kade-connects-arcade-controls-to-computers-and-con?ref=card

Cheers!

Sent from my Nexus One using Tapatalk 2

[Eldritch1969]

OK, guys. I'm a backer for £20

Hope I'll get your KADE encoder as planned

 

PS also linked to your page on the bartopmania forum 

[sharpfork]

OK, guys. I'm a backer for £20
Hope I'll get your KADE encoder as planned
 
PS also linked to your page on the bartopmania forum 

Thank you!
 

[kuchta]

I'm very excited! I just did the £35 pledge. It indicates that this is for "encoders for a 2-player cabinet". That will actually be 2 separate encoders, though, so I could use them in 2 separate cabinets if I wanted, right?

I hope you guys reach your goal quickly. I can tell you guys put a lot of effort into this. Congratulations and good luck!

Steve

[sharpfork]

That will actually be 2 separate encoders, though, so I could use them in 2 separate cabinets if I wanted, right?

Congratulations and good luck!

Steve

Correct and thank you!

SIII + Cyanogen + Tapatalk 2

[VictorBangle]

Hey look at this I finally got to register, lol.

Hey everybody. What a cool project. Glad to be here and very excited to see the KADE take shape!

[VictorBangle]

Sharpfork (Kevin)

I've read a lot of your previous posts about your own saga getting trackballs to work in an xbox.

Specifically using trackballs in COINOPS 5 in an xbox. This project is too awesome for words and gives us xbox arcade guys hope!

I got to talking with Jon to cover the cost of a trackball...and also pledged for 2 KADES.

I know there are no guarantees but wow if you guys could make trackballs work like they should in an xbox...that would be too cool for words. ( and would be worth every penny )

One question about the KADE. Will it handle a spinner for the xbox as well?

Thank you to you three guys for coming together and deciding to make something truly extraordinary.

[sharpfork]

Victor.
You and I are thinking along the same lines.  I wrote some basic requirement for trackball and spinner support in Kade a few weeks ago.  We will do what we can to add support from the hardware side so BP can focus on other things & maybe light guns.  We have many other cool ideas for additional features but you motivated us to give this a look sooner.
)

SIII + Cyanogen + Tapatalk 2

[floriske.nl]

Great to see the kickstarter live and allready reaching the goal!

As mentioned before, I think this is a great project and am well scuffed with the fact that I got to receive 2 prototypes for my project.

KUTGW! 

[ark_ader]

I will be looking to seeing a finished product.

I can see so many uses for this product.

Great work on the video! 

[equlizer]

Wow!  IF you could get trackball and spinner on the same KADE (plus a few buttons) ill get 2!!!

[DeLuSioNal29]

Wish I had heard of this sooner.  I would have definitely backed the project and gotten a couple for my future xbox projects.

Great work guys!

DeLuSioNaL29

[VictorBangle]

Any news good or bad about the possibility of the KADE + trackball + xbox?

[sharpfork]

Wish I had heard of this sooner.  I would have definitely backed the project and gotten a couple for my future xbox projects.

After all KS rewards are sent out, we will be selling KADEs.  Keep an eye open here as well as at http://kadevice.com for more info.

Any news good or bad about the possibility of the KADE + trackball + xbox?

Victor-
Degenatrons is making some great progress:


I've been testing this as well and am very impressed with the way this setup works.

[floriske.nl]

You guys just don't stop to amaze me 

Great work! 

[degenatrons]

Any news good or bad about the possibility of the KADE + trackball + xbox?

Hey Victor,  I've been sending you email updates on trackball progress.  Sounds like you've not been receiving them.  Maybe check your spam.
Thanks again for your generous donation to our project.

[VictorBangle]

Any news good or bad about the possibility of the KADE + trackball + xbox?

Hey Victor,  I've been sending you email updates on trackball progress.  Sounds like you've not been receiving them.  Maybe check your spam.
Thanks again for your generous donation to our project.

AH no that's my fault. I went back and checked, your emails are there I just didn't see them. What else can I say but "Thank You" to the KADE team. You guys work so hard and are so professional. I just hope the cab I build can be just as nice and do justice to the KADEs that will be inside it.

Thank you so very much for getting the trackball saga sorted out! Amazing!

[opt2not]

You guys have any plans on supporting the GCW: Zero?
www.gcw-zero.com

It's got a lot of hype lately, kickstarter has begun too.

Has an HDMI, so it wouldn't be too bad to set this up to a cabinet.

Durp, never-mind!  It's more of a matter of getting the GCW to recognize this ...not the other way around.