Author Topic: Another Great Example Of Our Hobby Revealed To The Public (Read 8929 times)

CheffoJeffo · « **on:** July 19, 2011, 02:15:30 pm »

I love how the folks in this hobby represent us so well ...

http://www.aetv.com/hoarders/video/?bctid=1057891732001&vid=AETV_MRSS_Hulu

JRChristenson · « **Reply #1 on:** July 19, 2011, 02:28:07 pm »

Watching it now. Wow.

HaRuMaN · « **Reply #2 on:** July 19, 2011, 02:29:50 pm »

PBJ, is that you?

TopJimmyCooks · « **Reply #3 on:** July 19, 2011, 02:30:26 pm »

Randy has a nice collection. . . That Vicki lady on the other hand, is crazy!

Just kidding, it's a real problem that can be successfully treated over time like an addiction. I hate how the tv show tries to jam in a quick resolution over a week or so.

. . . sneaks off to recount his 59 systems rom collection. . . .

HaRuMaN · « **Reply #4 on:** July 19, 2011, 02:31:22 pm »

WTF at the mannequins...

Donkbaca · « **Reply #5 on:** July 19, 2011, 02:32:32 pm »

Which hobby are you talking about? The pinball collecting? or the mannequins of yourself collecting?

clok · « **Reply #6 on:** July 19, 2011, 02:46:56 pm »

Well other thant a touch of Charlie Sheen at least he his hording stuff with value. Most the horders I see have plain old crap (in the real sence too if they have animals). He does have some crap (stuffed animals.. some of those claw machines ar full to the top! and other stuff). other than seeming a bit batty (ok more than a bit) there is an upside, he has value in what he is hording at least. I wonder how you collect that much and pay to store it.. that place has to be a small fortune to rent, and he talked about more rental stuff at an airport

fun to look at for sure!

Anpanman · « **Reply #7 on:** July 19, 2011, 02:49:01 pm »

I think there's a big difference between someone who fills their house with a bunch of random garbage and a guy who's spend millions of dollars filling a warehouse with old arcade machines. I was more shocked by the attitudes displayed by the woman and the guy moving the equipment than Randy. I think he's just a guy who found an excellent way to advertise his upcoming arcade and was happy to fill the role they required of him.

For example, the bit where they were moving the large arcade machine. They tried to make a big deal about it to add drama to the episode. Randy is right. There's no reason fifteen guys couldn't move that thing. They are supposed to be professional movers! They used it to try and add some tension to the episode and he called them out on it.

nox771 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 19, 2011, 02:52:08 pm »

Quote from: TopJimmyCooks on July 19, 2011, 02:30:26 pm

. . . sneaks off to recount his 59 systems rom collection. . . .

Ha, seriously. I'm not a hoarder ... whoa, wait a minute, I'm missing a couple out of the 10,000 romsets.

JRChristenson · « **Reply #9 on:** July 19, 2011, 03:01:27 pm »

Quote from: Anpanman on July 19, 2011, 02:49:01 pm

They are supposed to be professional movers!

They're not movers, they're trash men.

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #10 on:** July 19, 2011, 03:11:09 pm »

Quote from: Anpanman on July 19, 2011, 02:49:01 pm

I think there's a big difference between someone who fills their house with a bunch of random garbage and a guy who's spend millions of dollars filling a warehouse with old arcade machines. I was more shocked by the attitudes displayed by the woman and the guy moving the equipment than Randy. I think he's just a guy who found an excellent way to advertise his upcoming arcade and tried to fill the role they required of him.

I was actually surprised he came off as normal as he did in the episode (based what I have seen various forums ... one bad thread on KLOV about a machine sale comes to mind), aside from the Randykins and the bucket full of hoarded hair.

He had an arcade on the boardwalk before ... and got booted. I don't recall why, but I think he was demanding government funding or something, and he has since made his rant videos on YouTube private, so I can't check. Apparently the place was so bad that not even enthusiastic coin-op folks would go in.

EDIT: For an insider's take on the episode, including a mention that Randy isn't as crazy as they made him look, although he sleeps on a mattress under some pinball machines ...

http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/hoarders/2011_Jul_19_behind-scenes-randyland

JRChristenson · « **Reply #11 on:** July 19, 2011, 03:28:49 pm »

I've seen a lot of episodes of this show but I've never seen a meltdown like the one Vicki had in this one.

Anpanman · « **Reply #12 on:** July 19, 2011, 03:33:11 pm »

Quote from: JRChristenson on July 19, 2011, 03:01:27 pm

They're not movers, they're trash men.

I must have missed that while watching the episode. This snippet from the article linked above gives some insight into that...

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Matt’s crew were day laborers (just out of or on their way back to prison, Matt says, though he prefers working with those guys rather than, say, recent college graduates who won’t work as hard), and that was a source of major conflict. Although Randy applied for the show himself, he doesn’t consider himself a hoarder, and signed on for the moving services. That Matt didn’t hire professional movers irked Randy; part of their conflict was over whether Matt knew about that monstrosity of a horse racing machine beforehand, which Randy later proved to me that he did (it was mentioned in an e.mail; its scale was not). As I explore in Playboy, Randy felt very, very betrayed, as if the fight was set up (it was not; it was ultimately a misunderstanding). The crew had to adjust to Randy and were, well, very skeptical of him and unsure of how to interact with him, but they eventually all grew to trust each other. Fascinating stuff that a 40-something minute TV show episode can’t really cover.

JustMichael · « **Reply #13 on:** July 19, 2011, 10:16:28 pm »

I am sooo glad he isn't in England, open "Randyland" and I bet the police would show up to shut down a brothel.

gabe · « **Reply #14 on:** July 20, 2011, 10:09:14 am »

I've seen exactly 3 episodes of Hoarders in my life, including this one. Under normal circumstances, I can't stand the show as it attempts to mask its exploitation of the mentally ill by offering false solutions to their complex problems.

That said, I had no problem watching this episode. Randy strikes me as an eccentric, not a hoarder. From what I gather, he exploited the ---smurfy--- cable show. Not the other way around. Free moving. Free publicity. Good for him.

wbassett · « **Reply #15 on:** July 20, 2011, 11:47:08 am »

The second story was down right disturbing. That whole family has major issues, not just the mother.

Donkbaca · « **Reply #16 on:** July 20, 2011, 11:48:51 am »

At what point are you a hoarder and at what point are you just too lazy to take out the trash?

Mikezilla · « **Reply #17 on:** July 20, 2011, 12:32:24 pm »

Damn it. I cant watch this clip, and I havent seen this episode. I happen to watch this show when its on, and I have seen quite a few episodes, but not this one. Whats the deal? The guy has a ton of arcade/pinball machines in a airplane hanger or something? He hoards mannequins? My work filter sucks harder than a toothless hooker. I never get to see anything.

shateredsoul1979 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 20, 2011, 01:58:10 pm »

Do you guys thinks classic video game collecting can lead to hoarding? I mean, where's the line between hoarding and collecting

Donkbaca · « **Reply #19 on:** July 20, 2011, 02:05:49 pm »

Collecting is just organized hoarding. If you have a checklist of what you want to have, its collecting. If you just pick up whatever and refuse to let it go, ever, its hoarding.

wbassett · « **Reply #20 on:** July 20, 2011, 02:09:18 pm »

I think what someone else said earlier nailed it... Randy played them and they were too stupid to even know it!

I loved it when he moved that big section by himself and wouldn't tell them how he did it- I don't blame him for his attitude either (other than getting free help), they were supposed to be the professional movers and they couldn't handle the job.

The other story... again woah! And yeah I thought the daughter was a prize too! Funny... the mother hoarded trash and they were all white trash!

shateredsoul1979 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 20, 2011, 02:48:49 pm »

Funny how he said from the beginning that he wanted to share his collection with people open it to the public, the show spins it later and claims that they convinced him to move the arcade to be shared in a public space.

He reminds me of Willy Wonka. Funny how the moving guy jumps to saying that he has an issue and is a hoarder to defend himself. He might be condescending and excentric, but he's definitely as bad as the other hoarders.. I think. I do believe he has a huge issue, definitely since he gave up having friends, family, and admits himself that he has an issue. Plus the dolls w/ real hair? WTF!?

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #22 on:** July 20, 2011, 03:21:38 pm »

Quote from: wbassett on July 20, 2011, 02:09:18 pm

I don't blame him for his attitude either (other than getting free help), they were supposed to be the professional movers and they couldn't handle the job.

No, they weren't supposed to be professional movers ... that was the lead guy's point in the argument that apparently went on for longer than Randy's entire segment.

Thenasty · « **Reply #23 on:** July 20, 2011, 07:51:59 pm »

I just googled Randyland and got this good read.

http://www.flippers-fascination.com/

check out this quote for consultation fee

"Consultation fees for solving your custom gaming systems problems can also be acquired with fees starting at around $500 per hour"

I might stop by in August. I'll be in Atlantic City and I believe Wildwood is just another 45min away.

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #24 on:** July 21, 2011, 01:03:14 pm »

He has also written a couple of books. Have to love his bio ... reminds me of somebody else ... can't quite put my finger on it ...

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About the Author
Randy Senna, has been an Icon on the New Jersey Amusement boardwalks for 50 years. He spent his childhood summers exclusively on the Boardwalks in the shore resorts of NJ. There, through the formation years, he developed a love for the games and the fun days of summer, which would drive his entire life. Age 13, received a genius rating in abstract reasoning and industrial design, by special PHD certified testing. Age 15, extraordinary skills as a games technician had already become well know, among long time Amusement Business operators on the Boardwalks in NJ. Age 16, after being genius rated in Electrical/Electronic design, to the 99th percent level in the entire United States, by the armed forces I.Q. aptitude test, an unsolicited offer to work on the United States Space program for NASA was turned down by Randy. Age 17, turned down an offer to become a professional Jai Alai player both in Dania Fl., & Milford Conn. Age 18, owned and operated his first large format group game business, on the Boardwalk in NJ. Age of 24, owned 3 separate major games, on the Boardwalk in NJ. Age of 25, became a superstar and widely recognized icon on Main Street U.S.A., at the Magic Kingdom, at Walt Disney World, in Lake Buena Vista, Fl. Age 27, while still retaining ties with Disney, returned to the NJ Boardwalks, and took over a major group entertainment game operation, where he quickly became a well know celebrity amongst Boardwalk patrons. Age 31, in effort to clone himself so as to relieve the strain of his work load with daily operations, designed and created the world's 1st and only interactive artificial intelligent, audio-animatronics character in his own image. Age 34, holder of two United States Patents. Age 38, had created the world's first, large scale, hands on, Amusement Games Museum, recreating the experiences of his beloved youth on the NJ Amusement Boardwalks. Age 40, became a champion for the civil rights of the common man citizen, in an ongoing battle against corrupt city and State officials, which even required F.B.I. involvement. Age 45, became the subject in a feature full length documentary film, focused upon his life and dedication to the long time Amusement game known as "Fascination". Age 46, became a film producer. Age 47, became responsible for a precedence unanimous decision by the Supreme Court in NJ. Age 49, created a lifetime experience, through a living museum known as "Randyland" Age 50, has become an author.

Donkbaca · « **Reply #25 on:** July 21, 2011, 01:06:39 pm »

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Age of 25, became a superstar and widely recognized icon on Main Street U.S.A., at the Magic Kingdom, at Walt Disney World, in Lake Buena Vista, Fl.

Does this mean he took a job wearing the Mickey Mouse costume?

Xiaou2 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 21, 2011, 01:30:01 pm »

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Have to love his bio ... reminds me of somebody else ... can't quite put my finger on it ...

The Jealous are always the first to lash out...

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #27 on:** July 21, 2011, 01:32:59 pm »

Oh yeah, now I remember.

RayB · « **Reply #28 on:** July 21, 2011, 01:34:58 pm »

The guy's a narcissist and maybe even a bit paranoid. The thread on KLOV and RGP show what he's like at a personal level.

This on the other hand paints a rosy picture:

Xiaou2 · « **Reply #29 on:** July 21, 2011, 02:01:51 pm »

The guy may be a little quirky, but hes pretty cool.

If you have never played it, Fascination is incredibly fun and addictive.
(Ive been thinking of building a replica one day... )

We used to have a Fascination parlor in the local amusement park. The announcer really plays a factor into the experience, and watching clips of Randy, you can see he does a great job of it. Lots of personality. Very friendly. A showman. Makes a lot of people happy.

I wouldnt be surprised about him being a bit paranoid, especially in NJ, where its surprising he is still alive... considering the Mob control & Corruption that probably still goes down on there.

TopJimmyCooks · « **Reply #30 on:** July 21, 2011, 02:11:07 pm »

Quote from: pinballjim on July 21, 2011, 02:09:12 pm

What the hell IS Fascination exactly?

skeeball/bingo/off track betting hybrid. I had to look it up as well, since I avoid NJ at all costs.

Xiaou2 · « **Reply #31 on:** July 21, 2011, 02:29:37 pm »

at about 1:30, they start filming fascination.

You have a group of players, the bell rings... and a ball is set loose.
You roll the ball, and try to sink it in the holes to create lines.
When the ball fall thru a hole, it lights a light on the backboard.
If you get a full vertical, horizontal, or diagonal line, you win.

The ball I believe is a racketball. Very bouncy.
Theres a glass plate to keep you from cheating, as you have to roll under it.
There are ramps that you have to climb before the ball can enter the field.
Part skill, part luck. (probably more luck than skill, but it feels like its skillful)

Being in a large group, all racing like mad, waiting impatiently for the ball to return.. and just missing getting a line on the next shot.. its just an awesome experience.
Sometimes you hear the bell of someone winning in seconds, and you just cant believe it was possible. Sometimes you hit it, and hearing the bell sound for you, you beating the entire room of people... just makes it.

Its almost a Zen like experience. You can play for hours, and it feel like minutes.

TopJimmyCooks · « **Reply #32 on:** July 21, 2011, 02:31:56 pm »

Actually, Xiaou2 gave a much better explanation than I did.

FrizzleFried · « **Reply #33 on:** July 21, 2011, 03:18:53 pm »

Quote from: CheffoJeffo on July 21, 2011, 01:32:59 pm

Oh yeah, now I remember.

DCsegaDH · « **Reply #34 on:** July 21, 2011, 03:44:13 pm »

They just moved Randy's stuff to a bigger place. I don't think he is a hoarder, he doesn't have junk laying around like Vicki does. I think he has social problems though, I know I couldn't be a hoarder, I'm a neat freak

TOK · « **Reply #35 on:** July 21, 2011, 07:56:18 pm »

The thing that separates this guy from a hoarder for me is that fact that he didn't do this to his house. Every other person I've seen on this show has ruined their personal life by trashing where they live. He called the show on himself -pretty sketchy.

Even though I'm guessing this dude is socially inept, he's got sense enough to get storage. Even in his warehouse, he had rows of games that were powered up, accessible and playable. He's a collector. The collection is ridiculous, but not out of control.

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #36 on:** July 21, 2011, 08:21:41 pm »

Quote from: TOK on July 21, 2011, 07:56:18 pm

The thing that separates this guy from a hoarder for me is that fact that he didn't do this to his house.

He sleeps upstairs under a couple of pinball machines.

DCsegaDH · « **Reply #37 on:** July 21, 2011, 09:12:33 pm »

Quote from: CheffoJeffo on July 21, 2011, 08:21:41 pm

Quote from: TOK on July 21, 2011, 07:56:18 pm
The thing that separates this guy from a hoarder for me is that fact that he didn't do this to his house.

He sleeps upstairs under a couple of pinball machines.

That's normal right?

TOK · « **Reply #38 on:** July 22, 2011, 02:51:37 pm »

I've gotten loaded and slept in my truck a couple of times. I don't live there though!

If he's living there, it is probably against the law.

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #39 on:** July 22, 2011, 03:56:22 pm »

I have to admit that, when I snore, I end up sleeping in my gameroom, but not under nor on any of my games.

extendedplayarcade · « **Reply #40 on:** July 25, 2011, 04:25:44 pm »

I grew up down in Toms River and Seaside area. I even worked on the boardwalk as a kid. I am sure I even came across this guy Randy at some point. When I worked on the Seaside Boardwalk they used to call guys like Randy "Barkers". They would call people over and keep people playing to the point where they where out of money and winning useless prizes. I was actually a Barker for awhile but it is a lot more work then people can imagine. You have to have a few screws loose to be really really good at it. He is an animated character and seems like he likes to draw a lot of attention to himself in any way he can.

I don't know if I consider him a hoarder. I mean it isn't like what he is collecting is junk. It has value to it.

There was a guy next to where my Father's Factory is (where i use to work) had this dump of a house and he collected newspapers. Every newspaper he ever owned was in the house. It eventually caught his house on fire seeing a stack of newspapers fell over and hit the gas hotwater heater and set a blaze. The funny thing was the house was so wet from the guy not fixing the roof the house fully never really caught on fire. It smoldered for like 3 days. They finally just condemed it a year or so ago and the guy went into a mental hospital.

Anyways i consider the newpaper guy hoarder. Randy a nutty, look at me, kind of collector with some issues.

But yet again I am not a doctor just knew a lot of weird people growing up down at the "Jersey Shore" It is kind of like carni folk. I blame Ciba-Gigy for dumping into the barnaget bay their chemicals and what not http://rarediseases.about.com/cs/leukemiasrare/a/031602.htm


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