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continue with arkanoid
« on: March 03, 2011, 09:19:34 pm »
Can anyone tell me how to continue in arkanoid. It says to hold fire and press start but that just ends the count down and says "game over". I get this will all arkanoid roms. The dip option says continue is enabled.

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Re: continue with arkanoid
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2011, 09:48:33 pm »
I don't know about MAME, but I have a real Arkanoid. And to continue, that is exactly what I have to do. First push and hold "Fire" then press "Start". It might be a key punch thing in MAME. Because when I press and release "Fire" it ends the count down and the same goes for just "Start". Maybe your MAME setup can't read two keys pressed at the same time?

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Re: continue with arkanoid
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2011, 10:44:02 pm »
well in this case its a joystick I'm fairly confident mame can read two buttons. I could understand the keyboard as in issue though. Hitting fire does not effect the count down for me, just start.

well actually its a joystick but emulating a mouse. So as far as mame is concerned its a mouse. I think it would be common knowledge if mame didnt support two simultaneous mouse buttons. However I think you are right in that it is sensing the one button and for some reason thinks the fire button is not down.
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Re: continue with arkanoid
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2011, 01:39:32 am »
Forgive me if this is a silly question, but you are inserting a coin before trying to continue, right?

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Re: continue with arkanoid
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2011, 04:18:48 am »
On SDL Mame with a Minipac it just works as it should.
But I really dislike the continue option in Arkanoid, as it refreshes the field to the starting state. Really anoying if you had 1 brick left.

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Re: continue with arkanoid
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2011, 08:20:08 am »
nitz, yes coins are in.

Blanka, I think that the way it always is. Think of SMB. You start to play and get half way, then you get a new start position ( mid way in  ), you use up all lives and continue. Now the start position is back to the beginning.
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Re: continue with arkanoid
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2011, 09:35:58 pm »
Just tried it out in MAME, no problems continuing here. Played with an actual keyboard. You might try using a keyboard to see if it still does the same thing.

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Re: continue with arkanoid
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2011, 09:26:18 am »
I will thx.

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Re: continue with arkanoid
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2011, 10:10:07 am »
just a guess just in case your are using one of those encoders that support SHIFT KEYS.
Maybe Button 1 whne HELD DOWN becomes a SHIFT KEY, if so you are getting ! instead of 1 when the Start 1 is pressed (just a thought).

I use Advmame and works like it should.
Thenasty's Arcademania Horizontal/Vertical setup.
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Re: continue with arkanoid
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2011, 10:26:17 am »
 I'm thinking both mouse downs are sending mouse button 3 or something.

left button button 0
right button button 1
middle button button 2
Left and right button 3 ? Testing this now. ( nope when pressing both buttons I get mouse 0  and  mouse 1, in mame )

I opened note pad typed asdf, the press a button and its still lower case, the pressed the other button and still lower case, does that rule out the shift business?

Hmm, I remember a test debug menu in arkanoid, going to try to find it and see if the buttons are working right.

Ok I got in to debug mode, and both button can not be pressed at once on the mouse emulator but can on the mouse. I will be able to figure this out, thx all!
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Re: continue with arkanoid
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2011, 10:54:32 am »
your using the MOUSE button as Button 1 ?

Maybe thats the problem (guessing). Try using your PC witht he game using same setup in the CAB. Mouse B1 as B1.


Here is the other thought.
Maybe you have a GHOSTING effect. If you are using a HACK keyboard encoder, maybe pressing B1 and Start1, the keys are not being sent.

I am all guess here. I dunno what controller you are using.

I think you should try what above had suggested. Plug in a keyboard and give it a test. Process of elimination.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2011, 10:56:52 am by Thenasty »
Thenasty's Arcademania Horizontal/Vertical setup.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=26696.0

Free VGA Breakout Cable
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=38228.0

Ultimate All in One Coin Mech write up (Make your own)
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=19200.0

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Re: continue with arkanoid
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2011, 11:03:45 am »
Ok I got it, was a simple mistake in my code. Working now. Thx again!

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I am all guess here. I dunno what controller you are using.
I'm developing my own HID. It was just something I over looked. I didnt really think about it till Nephasth said maybe its ignoring the second button. In my code it was accepting one or the other not both, now it does both.
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Re: continue with arkanoid
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2011, 01:09:00 pm »
Ok I got it, was a simple mistake in my code. Working now. Thx again!

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I am all guess here. I dunno what controller you are using.
I'm developing my own HID. It was just something I over looked. I didnt really think about it till Nephasth said maybe its ignoring the second button. In my code it was accepting one or the other not both, now it does both.

What are you using for a HID?
It sounds to me as if you got ghosting issues going on..

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Re: continue with arkanoid
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2011, 01:25:56 pm »
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What are you using for a HID?
I'm designing a driver free adapter. http://spawnlinux.dyndns.org/Bliss-Box
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It sounds to me as if you got ghosting issues going on..
As I said its fixed now, was a code issue.