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The Stage ~~ VIDEO ~~MAME Cab & Touch Jukebox w/ RGB LED's
« on: October 16, 2009, 10:11:11 pm »
This is the story of my machine, I call it The Stage.  This machine is simply a platform upon which the past can be relived and the present embraced. Using computer hardware as the actors and software as the script, this stage actually "brings to life" my childhood memories of long ago.  I don't know how it came to be exactly. The end result is certainly unusual, but was never planned.  It will never really be finished, but I'm almost there.

Here's a video of "The Stage"  nearly finished:




It all started 2 years ago around Christmas time when I played Robotron for the first time in 25 years at Costco on the arcade machine they were selling for $2000+.  Wow, that brought back some really powerful memories!  I was sold and even though I really couldn't afford it, I was going to buy it as soon as possible.  I knew nothing at all about arcade machines, except how to play them.  I did a Google search trying to find reviews for the Costco machine and ended up here in the forums.  I never knew this "world" existed and was so impressed by all of the fantastic projects here, but knew it would never be anything I could achieve.

While reading the forums, I saw an ad for the X-Arcade Dual Tank Stick.  It was only $200 instead of $2000 so it was a good way to get my feet wet.  I bought one.

I played for many hours over the long holiday break with my laptop, Tank Stick, and 22" Dell LCD monitor on the kitchen counter.  Eventually, I had to put the Tank Stick away because it was taking up too much space on the counter and I wasn't able to play it as much due to work. Still, I found the forums so interesting that I continued to read them for literally hundreds of hours.  Soon, I started realizing that I just might be able to pull off making my own Mame arcade machine.

The holiday season was quickly approaching again so I got my set-up working once more on the kitchen counter.  It was great, but I really wanted to build my own arcade machine.  I had no idea where to start.  I though about building from scratch, but I lacked the time and skills.

So, one night, I made my FIRST craigslist arcade game search via Google and came upon a posting for a whole bunch of arcade games and parts for sale at a warehouse/basement full of arcade games in my town.  JACKPOT!  But, it was an OLD ad and the poster had asked potential buyers to meet him at the site on the PREVIOUS Saturday if they wanted to buy anything while he was cleaning out the warehouse.  I thought I had lost out on the opportunity but emailed him anyway.  I didn't hear back from him and gave up hope until he emailed me 2 weeks later saying he would be at the warehouse again on the next Saturday.

I showed up early with my truck, not having any idea what to expect.  There were several other guys outside waiting for the seller to show up.  He ended up being 2 hours late, but at least he showed up!  While we waited outside in the cold, It was fun listening to the guys talk about arcade games.

Once inside, there were probably more than 50 machines and tons of parts. I was so overwhelmed that I couldn't think straight.  I was almost in a panic.


The craigslist ad had several photos and a price list so I looked around trying to find the best cabinet I could for under my $150.00 budget.  Once I got there, I realized I had no idea what kind of cabinet would be good for mame-ing, so I just tried to find the one that was in the best condition.

Even after I had made my choice, I still wasn't sure what I was doing.  The seller wanted $200 for the cabinet and wouldn't negotiate with me at all.  It took me another half hour of looking around before I decided to buy it. I thought at the time that I had overpaid, but I soon realized what a good deal it really was once I learned how much time and money goes into building a cabinet with working coin mechs.  Before I bought it I DID ask a couple of the arcade enthusiast guys if it would be ok to Mame this machine. They said it woud be no big deal.

Here she is as I found her:


The way this all unfolded is truly divine-like and "meant to be".  I have been watching craigslist closely for almost a year since then and have never seen any other "warehouse" sales or cabinets for sale as nice as mine for the price I paid, much less anything located in my own town.
 
I loaded the game into my truck, pulled the $25 parking ticket from my windshield, and drove home. I unloaded it at my house and nervously wondered what I had gotten myself into.  Not only did I not have any time to work on it, I had no idea where to start. I actually envisioned having to load it back into my truck in a few months to take it to the garbage dump.

Just a couple of hours after I got home, the weather forecast was calling for an extreme and extended winter storm for the Seattle area.  If it snowed I might be able to get some time off after all to work on my project. 

These are pictures I took last December when I brought it home:






















With plexiglass removed:


With bezel paper removed and controlled panel unclipped and unscrewed:


With monitor removed:


It's a 1984 dedicated Kung-Fu Master in a Dynamo (I was told) cab.  It was filthy but in great shape.  The only glaring problem was that someone had peeled the vinyl covering from one side.  The monitor had Moon Patrol heavily burned into it, but the game was otherwise original and unhacked.

I powered up the game out of curiosity, but I couldn't get anything to work. I replaced a blown fuse, but still no luck. After totally gutting the cabinet and cleaning it, the first step to make my Mame machine was to remove the old control panel and modify the cabinet to accept my X-Arcade Tank Stick. 

More on that next...
« Last Edit: November 12, 2009, 10:01:07 pm by enskpo »

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Re: The Stage
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2009, 11:11:40 pm »
Oh man I would have loved to have shopped that warehouse!
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Re: The Stage
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2009, 11:32:50 pm »
Lucky, on the warehouse find! I wonder what else he had in there...do you have anymore pictures of his collection?

That indeed is a fine machine to mame up. $200 is about par for an old machine in decent condition. You should try to salvage the monitor because the burn-in doesn't look that bad, and hopefully it still works.

Good luck!

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Re: The Stage
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2009, 01:48:14 am »
I enjoyed your story. It does seem like everything fell into place nicely :)

It looks to be fairly solid and the condition doesn't seem too bad, nothing a little TLC won't cure.

Are you intending on using the arcade monitor? I would try to get it working if you can with J-pac and an ArcadeVGA/Soft15Khz.

Any thoughts for your controls/layout? You could probably just about get a two player six button setup on that CP.


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Re: The Stage
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2009, 04:53:23 am »
I've already got this almost finished.  I was afraid to post an announcement for fear of never finishing.  I'll be lucky just to record all of it here for history's sake.

I should have put a big warning graphic at the top of this thread:

CAUTION:  This MAME machine project has an X-Arcade Tank Stick controller!

Please be kind.  I know better now and hope to do my own control panel someday.

Sorry, no more photos of the warehouse. There was a post about it here or on klov a year ago when it happened.  I'll see if I can find it. I lost a lot of the build photos in a simple transfer from the computer to a memory stick.  I only recovered about 75% of them using some kind of recovery software. :-[

I tossed the monitor. I didn't know what to do with it then and didn't want my small children around it.  I've installed a Dell 22" LCD.  more later...
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Re: The Stage
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2009, 10:30:46 pm »
FITTING THE X-ARCADE TANK STICK DUAL CONTROLLER

I probably looked at 50+ pictures on the web of arcade cabinets modified to hold an X-Arcade Tank Stick.   I didn't like the way any of them looked.  I stared at the cabinet, not having a clue as to how I was going to mount my Tank Stick. As fortune would have it, the base of the Tank Stick was exactly the same width as the cabinet.  I had a plan. Finally, I decided on the angle I wanted and cut the original control panel wings with my jigsaw.

It didn't take me long, I just made a few guesses and started chopping away. There was no turning back.  


After cutting the wings, I screwed down some boards to provide a solid surface to mount the control panel to.  I didn't think the wings themselves would have provided enough stability.  Then, I attached the panel with metal L brackets.  




Later on, I realized that my control panel is angled more steeply than others I've seen.  It's still pretty comfortable but I would make it a little less steep if I were to do it again.

To cover the gap between the Tank-Stick and the cabinet, I cut down some black, vinyl/rubber base cove base molding (like that used for base trim for vinyl flooring installations).  You can cut it to any width you want and it has a different "finished edge" on each side. I cut it lengthwise like I wanted and attached it with the thinner type of Scotch brand heavy duty double-sided adhesive tape.












That Scotch "permanent" stuff is strong and is supposed to be permanent, and I know that it DOES damage paint and black vinyl cabinet covering when you remove it. I re-did it one time and just covered the damaged area back up when I reinstalled the trim pieces.  To make it easier to remove the base trim in the future, I only used small pieces of the tape to secure the cove base molding to the control panel and the body of the cabinet, covering the unsightly gap.  

After about 6 months, the foam tape shadow (and the bracket shadows) are just slightly telegraphing through the vinyl cove base. You can kind of see the outline of each piece of tape.  Not easily noticed, but it's not perfect.  If I were to do it again, I would use one long piece of foam tape instead of a bunch of smaller pieces. Then, it wouldn't look so irregular.  Or, first tape a piece of thin, 1 1/2" wide aluminum to cover the gap between the cabinet and Tank-Stick.  Then, tape the base cove molding to the aluminum.   No big deal. I like this tape and have found it to be really versatile in my project.

I'll redo it the next time I have to remove the tape to get inside the control panel.  It's not an ideal way to mount the control panel, since it does take quite a bit of work to access the inside of the control panel.  The control panel also has to be removed in order to remove the bezel and access the LCD monitor for cleaning.  After sealing everything up the first time, I made the mistake of drilling some holes in the top of the machine and caused a lot of dust to settle on the screen. I had to remove remove the control panel and redo the control panel trim in order to clean the monitor.  It took about an hour. I have the LCD area of the cabinet sealed up pretty tight now and haven't had to clean the monitor glass since.


There was also a gap between the top of the Tank-Stick and the bottom of the bezel plexi that was about an inch wide:


I covered this with another piece of the cove base molding cut to about 3 /4" wide, with the "lip" being on one edge of the base cove molding, leaving just enough space to access the buttons/switch on the back of the Tank-Stick, although I've never used them.  Its fastened with the tape.


The cut edges look a little white, so I painted them later.

I used a black permanent Sanford marker to "black-out" the writing on the Tank-Stick control panel.  I've had to re-apply it a couple of times as it wears slightly. I used a Berol marker which matched better than my black Sharpie.



The control panel mounting turned out better than I thought it would.  It definitely wasn't the worst Tank-Stick adaptation I had seen.
 
Obviously, the REAL solution is to build my own control panel that opens in the conventional method.  I have nothing against the Tank-Stick.  It has performed well for me and served my needs.  Maybe someday.  I definitely feel now that I could pull it off with a few hundred dollars and a bunch of hours.  That would complete my degree in basic mameology 101.  But, this project and its surprises have really strained my budget and a new control panel will just have to wait.  I have a lot of other things I still want to do to the machine also.


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Re: The Stage
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2009, 10:28:27 am »
I found this old post over on klov that talks about the "warehouse" sale where I bought this cabinet.  Unfortunately, the links there to more pics aren't working anymore.  I didn't know about the sale then, I only found an old craigslist ad.  I hope to get another chance someday to go to a sale like that.  Especially now, since I have a better idea of what's going on.  Talk about beginner's luck!

MOUNTING THE LCD MONITOR
After I had the control panel trim in place it was time to move on to mounting the monitor.  I had planned on installing an old 17" monitor, but it looked so small once I had test-fit it.  Then, I decided to try my 22" Dell LCD (wide format).  It was almost a perfect fit!  I only had to put 1 "doubled-up" piece of wood at the top and one at the bottom to keep the monitor from slipping up or down.
Old monitor:


Monitor removed:


LCD Installed:


To secure it in the back, I bent a piece of 3/4" wide aluminum that I got at the hardware store to fit into the recessed area on the back of the monitor and then screwed it into the VESA mounting holes.  Then I screwed the ends of the strapping to the plywood monitor mounting piece.  The monitor in nice and tight now.



I cut 2 pieces of black "foam project board" from Office Depot to fit along the top and bottom of the monitor for a bezel and secured them with regular double-sided tape.  It wasn't necessary to put any foam board on the sides of the monitor face as the screen printed cut-out on the plexi bezel, combined with the black monitor frame, hide the sides well. I may have to redo it if I install a custom art bezel.


The monitor is actually about 2" too wide for the original acrylic bezel cut-out, but still works great.  You have to look at it "straight-on" in order to see the whole picture, otherwise you'll lose about 1/4" of the screen on each side, depending on the sideways viewing angle.  It will be perfect when and if I have a custom acrylic bezel made. Maybe someday.

When I'm able to access the front side of the monitor I'm going shim the back of the monitor to make it face down more.  As it is now, it's leaning back at the same angle as the cabinet and original monitor.  The angle is fine when I'm standing up.  If I'm sitting down at my somewhat tall stool, It starts to lose focus if I don't sit straight up in the stool while playing.  Changing the monitor to a different angle would probably be barely noticeable behind the plexi, but would improve the experience greatly.  It's still awesome- that's why I haven't fixed it yet.

PAINTING  AND FIXING UP THE CABINET
I tore off the remaining vinyl from the one side where it had mostly been peeled off.  It came off pretty easily, the little kids really enjoyed picking off the smaller pieces and were actually a big help.  It was challenging to paint it in my 20F garage to say the least.  I put 5 layers of paint and 4 coats of polyurethane on, sanding between each coat.  It turned out pretty good, considering I was using a big propane blower-heater to heat the garage which caused some a few specks to blow onto the paint before it dried.



The paint is still a little wet in the pictures.  It dried to a nice satin sheen.  No too shiny.


The paint job isn't perfect, but it looks great to me.
I patched all of the cabinet holes from the lock bar, etc. and painted them too. I tried to make it look good, but not new. Overall, the cabinet was in really good shape- I could tell that it lived a somewhat protected life.  I think it was used in a hotel for part of its life, as it had a Marriott Hotel inventory sticker on it.  The kick-plate and bottom corners of the cabinet were in near-mint condition, with only some light spotting on the kick-plate, probably over- spray from carpet cleaning chemicals.  It wouldn't come off so I covered it up with a 4" wide strip of the automotive shiny/reflective adhesive graphic sticker stuff called Grafite that I got a roll of at Auto-Zone in the accessories aisle.  It looks good but isn't very durable. My kids dented the kick area a couple of time with the steel legs of a different stool I was using.  Only small dents, barely noticeable.  I swear, I have done more damage to this cabinet in the last year than it suffered over the prior 20 years!



OUCH! Months later, I was moving the cabinet outside to paint something really quick and I DROPPED it off of the dolly, crushing a couple inches of the front corner.  Luckily the open door caught the cabinet before it hit the floor. I added corner protector plates that I like. I'm going to order a couple more from Lizard Lick Amusements and cut them with a hack-saw to fit the shape of the front inside (kickplate) corner.  I didn't think I'd like them at first, but I do now. I've got a corner protector on the opposite side of the crushed corner shown above, as well on each of the other corners.  Here's some pictures of one of the corner protectors:




You can also see the new feet I bought in a few pictures up.  I replaced all 4 feet with new chrome feet that have a white, glide-like material on the bottom of them to make it easier to move the cabinet.  It slides really nice on the vinyl floor and the shiny chrome adds a classy, but subtle touch.  They also give me an extra 1/2" of lift than the previous feet.
Old leg on left:



The florescent light in the marquee still didn't work after I spent $6 on new bulbs so I bought a new light for $12.  I never use it- It's too bright  and doesn't blend well with the LED lights.  I'll probably use it once I get some custom art.


I'd like to do some custom art (or copy someone else's) someday, although I haven't seen much that really speaks to me. But the original marquee and bezel are in great condition (not really family friendly, due to the choking scene on the marquee).  It's acceptable though, and I like the authenticity.
I'm really glad now that I got an authentic, "from the day" cabinet. Call me lazy, but I think a few "wounds" and "beauty marks" add to the authenticity of the cabinet.  I really didn't care about making the cabinet pristine,  but it looks good enough that the wife hasn't made me put it back in the garage yet. 
After getting all of the serious sawing and painting out of the way it was time to bring the cabinet inside to work on it there.  It was VERY cold out in the garage.  It started snowing the day after I got it inside.  At the peak of the 10 day storm, we had accumulated 22" of snow with temps in the teens.  A rarity for the Seattle area. I was off work for 16 days in a row including my short Christmas vacation.





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Re: The Stage ~~~ (Mounting LCD/Fixing up Cabinet)
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2009, 01:44:57 pm »
You got this much snow today? Im in canada and havent seen any yet.

Edit: I think this must have been from last year, just posting them now?


Good job on the cab!  You probably will want to upgarade the CP eventually, but I totally understand about being over budget.
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Re: The Stage ~~~ (Mounting LCD/Fixing up Cabinet)
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2009, 08:17:36 pm »
You got this much snow today? Im in canada and havent seen any yet.

Edit: I think this must have been from last year, just posting them now? ...




Yes, It snowed LAST December when I first started working on this.  We never get snow like that here. 

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Re: The Stage ~~~ (Mounting LCD/Fixing up Cabinet)
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2009, 02:59:12 am »
COIN DOORS

I pulled the Chicago Coin Controls coin doors and did some minor sanding to them before I spray painted them with some satin black followed by a satin polyurethane spray.  They aren't perfect, but still look good.   Both coin mechanisms were working poorly at first.  I cleaned them up with the air-compressor and a long bristle paint brush.  Then, I used fine brass wool to lightly clean the build-up of gunk in the coin paths.  One side of the reject buttons was missing the reject spring, and both sides were missing the "25 Push to Reject" labels and plastic label inserts that clip onto the tops of the reject buttons.  So, I ordered all of the parts I needed from Lizard Lick Amusements.

Also, one coin mechanism had a broken spring, so I ordered a new Happ coin mechanism since I couldn't find just the spring.  The new Happ coin mech had the exact same spring, so I just put the spring on the old mech and kept the new coin mech for back-up.  The old coin mechs seem better built anyway, they match, and they are more authentic.

Vendor photos of the parts I bought for the coin-door:

Coin Mechanism:


Coin reject buttons with .25 inserts already installed:


Coin reject springs:


I have my X-Arcade side button wired to the coin mech credit switches. You just combine the 2 wires coming out of the bottom of each credit switch and run 2 wires to the two button connectors, leaving the Tank-Stick original wiring in place. 

The 12 volt automotive style bulb coin door lights are powered off of the computer power supply.

2 New locks with matching keys.

It also came with the plastic, rectangular coin bucket that's in good shape. I love the sound of the quarters falling into the plastic bucket, that sound alone "releases" a lot of memories.

The coin doors work great and look great now.  That was a fun project!










KEYBOARD SHELF

After I mounted the control panel, there was still an open gap about 2" wide right underneath it.  You don't even notice it.  I covered an 8" deep piece of plywood with a black vinyl/rubber ribbed carpet runner that I found at the hardware store and made a keyboard shelf.  Nothing fancy, but it keeps the keyboard out of sight when not in use.  When I use the keyboard, I pull it off of the shelf and stand it upright against the bottom of the acrylic bezel.  The "cutout" for the monitor in the bezel's screen printing is still above the level of the keyboard, allowing a clear view of the monitor.  This is actually the third keyboard shelf I have made:






Once it dried, I screwed it into place:


THE OTHER SHELF

While I was still in the garage, I kept admiring the vastness of the space inside the arcade cabinet.  So, I decided it needed another shelf because it just seemed like a vast waste of space inside that cabinet.   I used a piece of Maple cabinet plywood that I had on hand.  Finally used some of that Maple plywood I've had in my garage for 5 years. You can see one of my original keyboard shelves in the photo too.  I've also since changed speakers too.  I have changed this project so many times and have had to re-do a lot of things!


THE SPEAKERS

I replaced the stock speakers with some decent Pioneers that I had laying around.  To power them, I bought a 2.1 Logitech computer speaker system with a volume knob.  It sounded pretty good for an arcade machine. It wasn't what I wanted. Later on, I ended up ditching the Logitech system for a real amp and speakers (more on that later).  The speakers and light assembly slid out for easy access.








THE COMPUTER

The computer was pretty much the last thing I installed.  I used my laptop for months, which worked pretty well.  I would just store the laptop in the keyboard slot after I got things running. 

Here's my computer set-up:

Processor:  Amd athlon x2 5000 2.6   Intel Dual Core 2.7 Ghz

Memory: 4 gig ddr 2  $76

Motherboard:  asus m3n72-d   Asus P5KPL-AM SE

Video Card:  Invidia Geforce 8400gs 512 ddr 2 memory

OS:  Vista Home Premium

Corsair 750 Watt ATX -  featuring a 12 Volt/60 amp power rail.

Wireless:  Netgear WPN111 USB Wireless Network Adaptor  Never did work very well- also caused lots of intermittent problems with my other USB items.  I changed to  a Linksys wireless PCI card that has been working great.

4 USB 4-port hubs

Griffin Power Mate volume control knob

I first laid down some black vinyl, ribbed carpet runner on the floor of the machine.  It's the same stuff I covered the keyboard shelf with.

I mounted the motherboard to the floor of the cabinet, under the coin box so that the video and audio cards would stand upright in their motherboard slots. Although, if you moved the cabinet to a different location, the cards could come unseated pretty easily.  I may fabricate a bracket someday to hold the peripheral cards in place.  They haven't come unseated in 9 months of normal use. Be careful though!  One day I was adjusting something minor near the computer while it was turned on and accidentally bumped the video card, causing the motherboard to permanently fail.  I had to buy a new board and processor.

I mounted the hard drive to the side of the metal coin box with the "permanent" Scotch brand double-sided foam tape.  It hasn't budged in 9 months, although I now realize that it would land on top of the motherboard if it were to fall. It's really not the best location for the motherboard.  If someone were to spill a soda or something, liquid could easily damage the motherboard.  Maybe I'll make a partial shield for it someday to protect it from spills.

I've got a pretty big Zalman CPU fan/cooler zip-tied to the hard drive which really helps keep everything cool.  I first tried to attach it with the double-sided sticky tape.  It didn't stick very well because the circuit board side of the hard drive is so uneven.  There's also the basic fan mounted to the cpu.

This is actually the second hard drive in this machine.  I broke the very fragile SATA connector on the drive just as I was finishing up the software side of things.  I had to reinstall Windows 2000, upgrade to all of the service packs, and then install my Windows Vista UPGRADE.  Why did I buy the upgrade version ???????  Anyway, I was able to tape the SATA connector onto the hard drive, prop it up "just so", and transfer the Mame files to the new drive. It could have been worse.  LESSON LEARNED:  Back-up your software after any significant investment of time.



I've since ditched the USB wireless receiver for a PCI card wireless receiver with antenna.  Works much better.

I added a Griffin Powermate Volume knob to the top of the cabinet, out of reach of the little children. It's just sitting there, not really mounted in any way, which works fine. For a power switch, I bought a $4 black and chrome, surface-mount momentary car horn button that I screwed to the top of the cabinet. I just cut the 2 wires for the computer cabinet's power switch that came from the motherboard  and connected them to the horn switch. I have little kids so I wanted both controls out of reach.



I have a DVD rw drive for the computer, but leave it out of the cabinet and only hook it up when I need it.  I need a longer cable so I can permanently mount it to the top of the coin box, Then it will be easily accessed when you open the top coin door.  I may not set it up at all.  For just one DVD, It's easier to copy the disc to a 8GB usb drive with my laptop and use that to install the software to my arcade machine.

I bought this Corsair 750 watt computer power supply to run the computer, the coin return bulbs, and a few other things. It can handle 60 amps of 12 volts.  I'm impressed.  I've since seen different power supplies that are "modular", meaning you can disconnect the wires you don't need right from the power supply body.  That way, you wouldn't have a bunch of long wires to hide.  Doesn't bother me any.



It easily runs everything with room to spare.  Thanks to member heffe2001 for recommending this great power supply.
On the 120 volt AC side, I installed a "Smart Strip" power strip that automatically turns on EVERYTHING when I turn on the computer with the button  installed on the top of the cabinet. I have a normal power strip tapped into it where most everything is plugged into. The Smart Strip only comes in white (I think) so I spray painted it flat black to blend it in better.  I first put some small folded tape pieces inside the outlet plug holes and then masked off the power indicator light and some other areas.



I bought a black, fifteen foot, 12GA extension cord that runs from the wall outlet to the smart strip to give me plenty of cord if I need it.  Lots of AC wires! This rig isn't exactly UL Listed, but no smoke has escaped yet.



I use the computer for lots of other stuff too, it's pretty easy to use the trackball as a mouse and configure the left and right mouse buttons to your liking.  The more things it can do, the more likely you are to use it. I'm not a purist in the sense of hiding the computer interface. 

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Re: The Stage ~~~ (Coin Doors, Speakers, Computer)
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2009, 12:01:39 am »
Hey man everything looks cool, but you should really just build your own control panel. You can scavenge all the parts from the x-arcade. All you'll need is like half a sheet of MDF. Just an opinion of mine, but I look it would be worth the extra effort in the end.
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Re: The Stage ~~~ (LED Lighting)
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2009, 12:08:04 pm »
LED LIGHTING   

One of the coolest things I came across on the forums was the use of RGB LED lighting to light control panel buttons and trackballs.  But, I only had a Tank Stick and I wasn't ready yet to build my own arcade controls. I HAD to find a way to implement LED lighting in this project.  I honestly had NO idea what I was going to do with them, but I went ahead and ordered 30 pre-wired RGB LED's and a LED-Wiz from fellow member RandyT at Groovy Game Gear.  NOTE:  One LED-Wiz can only control 10 independent RGB LED's.  I was able to hook up all 30 lights by piggybacking them; basically hooking up 3 RGB LED's to each LED-Wiz output.  Therefore, all of the lights hooked up to the same output will act the same.  You can hook up quite a few LED's to each output, just make sure you don't exceed the maximum load recommended in the product's tech notes.

Three days after I placed my GGG order, I was shopping at Goodwill and found a pair of Radio Shack new, old stock, chrome automotive 6" speaker grills, still in their box that looked like it was from the early 80's. I mounted them in front of the stock speaker vents. They were just what I needed!  Here's what one looks like flush mounted to the cabinet:


When my GGG order arrived, I installed the LED-Wiz just inside the marquee area:


I then mounted 5 LED's inside each of the chrome grills, 4 around the outside, and 1 in the center using the permanent double- sided foam tape. I taped both sides of the circuit board so it wouldn't short out on the metal grill.  I stripped the really thin wires with an $8 adjustable wire stripper I got at Radio Shack.  My regular wire stripper didn't go that small. Next time though, I would mount the LEDs directly to the cabinet instead of the grill, you can see the tape securing the LEDs in a couple of places if you look closely.  When I finished wiring the right side I fired it up and got it working.  NOW I was onto something.  They looked even better than I imagined they would, with the lights sparkling through the holes in the chromed grills. It took me quite a while to figure out how to set everything up in the LED Blinky software.  Not due to the software itself, it was just a stretch for me in computer terms.  I also had a few moments of desperation after I got the lights working and a few weren't working right. I didn't have those wired  in the proper  RGB sequence.




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Below:  If you look closely, a few strips of the tape are visible.  In real life, you don't even notice them.  But, one of my future improvements is to mount the led's directly to the cabinet, instead of mounting them inside the speaker grill.




Now I just had to find a home for 20 more RGB led lights.

I mounted 6 of them on the sloped back of the cabinet, 3 on each side.  I mounted them inside some plastic wire molding which is intended for use in extending an electrical run on the surface of your wall.  I  drilled holes for the LEDs in the top cover. Then I opened it up to reveal the inside channel where I mounted the LED's in the channel by using some of those orange, soft, moldable ear-plug wax pieces that I had on hand (sorry, lost the pictures).  They basically wedge the LED's into place, holding them very securely once the cover is closed.

I was going to disassemble these LED's to paint the wire molding, but decided it would be easier to just dolly the cabinet outside real quick, do an easy masking job, and spray paint them with the LEDs in place (they weren't taped down to the cabinet yet and had about 1' of slack in the wires).  On the way back in, the cabinet fell off of the side of the dolly (no strap) as I crossed the door threshold bump. Later I realized that 1 of the tires on my dolly was low on air.  Luckily, the cabinet landed on the opened house door, causing a deep gash in the edge of the wooden house door.  I was able to stand it upright before it fell completely over.  The front corner got crunched pretty bad, but  It could have been worse. :)  Here's another copy of the picture in case you missed it earlier:




The ends of the wire mold pieces were open and needed some kind of end cap, so I tucked a small piece of black weather-stripping  foam inside each open end.



These lights shine up onto the ceiling and the area at the top of the wall.  They look great! I just get more and more excited every day I work on this machine.

JUKEBOX (HUH?)

One day, on a lark, I started to read the Jukebox/Audio forums.  BIG mistake.  It was then that I realized that music had been just as big of a part of my teenage years as video games.  The only thing that  I would rather do at that time period than play video games would be to go to a rock concert.  I guess listening to music and playing arcade/Atari games were the first things in life that I was really passionate about and that were "mine"; not having been influenced by my parents or by my teachers.

In the jukebox forums, I saw pictures of  Rowe Ami CD 100 jukeboxes, like the one we had at the pizza place where I worked when I was 16.  After closing, we would crank that jukebox up SO loud. It made quite an impression on me.  It wasn't long after that I purchased my first high power, Yamaha car amplifier and MTX 3-way speaker boxes with 10" woofers that I belted into the back seat.  I was one of only a few kids at my high school who had an amp in my car.

It was settled.  I was bound and determined that my arcade game would be a jukebox too.  But, I wanted more than just the software jukebox experience, It had to look and sound like a jukebox somehow.

In storage, I had a 12" JBL ported subwoofer tube.  It would be perfect for what seemed like such a large empty space in the back of my cabinet.  I proceeded to cut a large hole for it in the Maple plywood shelf  for the subwoofer tube to sit in, facing up towards the top of the cabinet. The sub enclosure is suspended about 4 inches above the floor of the cabinet. The subwoofer is secured below the shelf with 2 small "L" brackets.  I then cut more of the vinyl/rubber cove base  to cover the small gap between the hole in the plywood shelf  and the sides of the subwoofer tube. This acts as a trim between the cut out and the sub tube and also adds a little support.

I bought a decent 75 watt 4 channel Alpine amplifier for only $35 on eBay and mounted it to the inside wall of the cabinet.  It's powering the round pioneers in the original speaker positions and the other channel is bridged to the sub.  To power the amp, I combined several of the 12 volt power wires coming out of the power supply and connected them to a couple of 10 ga. wires, which go through a fuse block and feed the amplifier.  That fuse block powers all of the 12 volt devices except for the computer. I didn't remove any of the unused Corsair power supply wires, I just hid the ends of them.  I think they look cool- they have a nice wrap on them and are rather "meaty" looking.  Now, my cabinet was rockin'! The sub really bumps. But, the sound coming out of the back of the cabinet was too bassy (sp?), the only mids and highs were coming from the Pioneer speakers in the marquee area in the front of the cabinet.

Then, I remembered the 3 silver Realistic Minimus-7 bookshelf speakers that I had laying around in my garage. These are heavy for their size, metal enclosure speakers with a metal grill that sound pretty good.  Someday, I'll do the custom mod you can apply to make them sound even better. Yes, I do seem to have a lot of cool stuff just "laying around" in my garage. I honestly saved some garage space now that all of this stuff is inside the arcade cabinet.  I had picked up these three speakers 1 by 1 at garage sales over the years. As luck would have it, the 3 of them fit almost perfectly along the width of the cabinet on the shelf, right behind the subwoofer tube.  They sounded great and added a nice balance.  I run them at 90% on the receiver volume with the treble at 80% and the bass at 0.  Then, I added a piece of shiny angle steel that I used to aim the speakers up a little bit.  Once in place they looked good, but the grills were a little dinged up. Then one day,  when I was working in the shelf area, I dropped one of the Minimus speakers from the shelf and into the subwoofer hole, landing on my drill laying on the cabinet floor.  It tore a gaping hole right through the grill. Thankfully, the speaker wasn't damaged.  I considered buying some replacement Minimus-7 speakers for better grills, but they are $40-$60 for a pair and the ones I saw on eBay had grills that were no better than the ones I had, with the exception  of the heavily torn grill I damaged.  Oh well, I hadn't planned on them being visible anyway.

I came across an older 50 watt alpine 2 channel amp to power the Minimus-7 speakers and installed it on the lower cabinet wall opposite the other amplifier.  That really did the trick, filling out the sound nicely.  The center Minimus-7 speaker is for looks only and is not hooked up at this time.  Unfortunately, that amp died about 3 weeks later, leaving me with nothing to power the Minimus-7 speakers.  Back to the garage...

I have this old 1980's Marantz stereo receiver that I bought at a garage sale years ago and was using it for my garage stereo system. I've been known to hoard vintage electronics that I find at garage sales and thrift stores.  When I was 11, I wore out the back pages of the giant JC Penny Christmas Wish book.  That's where the big money Kenwood and Pioneer RACK systems were located and I wanted one so bad that I took the time to write out my wish list with the exact specifications of each of the components in the rack system I wanted.  I never really knew or cared about hi-fi, I just liked it loud and clear. Meanwhile, I listened to my AM/FM 8 Track Record Player Combo and played my Atari 2600 for days on end in my bedroom.  Ohhhh, I'm getting more memories now.  Sorry, getting off track!  This small Marantz receiver is only 25 watts per channel, but a QUALITY 25 watts per channel. Knowing full well that I was venturing at high speed into possible crapmame territory, I decided anyway to use it to power the Minimus-7 speakers.  It IS "period accurate" after all, just like the Minimus-7 speakers. I set it on its end, with it's top against the side of the cabinet. and used an "L" bracket to attach it to the support that holds up the shelf above it.   I placed it towards the back of the cabinet, keeping it in the background.

The original owner had proudly engraved his driver's license number on the silver face FRONT of this receiver. And, a couple of the front face screws are missing.  It was ugly, but only $3.  It was meant to be in this cabinet where it can display its beauty and hide its ugliness. :)  All of the bulbs in the receiver are burnt out, giving the dial and everything else a "blacked out" kind of look, which also makes it perfect for this application. I installed a few 12 volt blue led lights that shine on the receiver's silver face from underneath the shelf.

I also installed a few more of those blue LED's to shine on the amplifier and the computer motherboard (even though you really can't see much of the computer motherboard unless the subwoofer tube is removed from the cabinet).  I ran the rear channel speaker wires  from the Marantz up through the top of the cabinet for some speakers that I put up there on occasion.   These speakers are very similar to the Minimus-7's, only they are black and a little newer.  I'll have to put some Velcro up there and on the speakers so they won't rattle off and hit you on the head when its up really loud.  As odd as it is, this system really rocks.  It pounds just like that Rowe-Ami cd100 I remember so well.

Throughout this project I often marveled at how much empty space there was in the cabinet.   Even after I put the sub inside it still had a lot of space.  And now I had this nice maple plywood and blue LED's.  Such a shame to hide it all behind the back door.

I know it sounds crazy, but the more I looked at the back of the opened up cabinet the more it resembled a concert stage.  I know what you're thinking, but please bear with me.  First, you've got the actual stage platform (the maple plywood shelf).  Then, the slanted monitor area inside the cabinet is the back wall of the stage, kind of like at an amphitheater.  Then, you have the area below the shelf which has all of the inner workings and their blue glow from the 12 volt LED's I put down there- that's the "backstage". 

"The Stage" was born.  It was then that I realized I had kind of vaguely "emulated" a rock concert stage  That's the way the concerts were that I went to during the early 1980's. My first concert at age 15 was Blizzard of Oz with Motorhead opening. . Basically it was just a plain stage with spotlights and the band. Maybe a platform on the stage but nothing too fancy.  Oh yeah, I forgot about the fog/smoke effects on those stages (memories coming quicker now).  That would be awesome on my machine.  Seriously. :)   (See the Ozzy video below that I saw  after writing this)

I cut another piece of the maple cabinet plywood to cover the back of the monitor area inside the back of the cabinet and screwed it down.  This gives me a backdrop for the stage.




Then, I piggybacked onto the Led-Wiz terminals from the chrome grill LED's and installed 6 more LED lights (3 on the left side and 3 on the right side) shining onto the  "stage" area and onto the new Maple plywood I just installed behind the monitor.  They are pretty well concealed. Some are shining down from the top onto the upper and lower Maple plywood pieces. And a few are along the front inside edge on both sides of the cabinet back, shining forward onto my new shiny, custom multi-speaker grill. Once lit, they really do have an effect similar to a concert spotlight!  I place them in several different positions before I settled on the final look.  The light shines warmly on the finished Maple surfaces and the reflection off of the dark-black cabinet vinyl covering looks good.  I think it creates a neat contrasting look.  I trimmed the edges of the backdrop with some 3/4" wide aluminum stock.  It was too shiny so I toned it down a little by placing a strip of the Graphite vinyl adhesive shiny stuff on each side, covering about 3/4 of the aluminum strip.


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Re: The Stage ~~~ (RGB LED Lighting)
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2009, 12:24:40 pm »
Nice project...  but the X-Arcade ruins it for me.   :-\

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Re: The Stage ~~~ (RGB LED Lighting)
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2009, 12:36:27 pm »
While in the hardware store looking for ideas one day, I found a sheet of decorative metal that looks very similar to the original speaker grills. It was $20 and I'll have a lot left over to keep "laying around" for a future project. So, I decided to make one BIG speaker grill that would cover all 3 speakers. It's not really a grill, more like a 3 sided sleeve that I slid the 3 speakers speakers into face first, leaving the backs of them open for the speaker connections  I cut the metal material with a jigsaw after sandwiching it between 2 pieces of plywood.  I then bent the material with a straight board on plywood. It looks pretty good, but it still needs a little something. I dressed it up a bit with some small strips of that  "graphite" car graphics material that I used in other areas of this project. The stripes mimic the outline of the real speakers behind the grill.  After fitting everything into place I tacked the grill to the speakers and the speakers to the angle iron with small pieces of the permanent double-sided foam tape.  The angle iron that the speakers lean on is screwed to the shelf to hold it secure.





I cut the back door panel in half and discarded the upper half.   I then made a cutout in the lower half for a grill.   I bought a small sheet of "expanded metal" at the hardware store and then cut it with the jigsaw to fit the opening and screwed the grill into place.  The door is held shut by a somewhat strong double-magnet latch.



Here's a video showing the LED's in action.  The LED lights aren't as vibrant in the video, but you'll get the general idea.

"The Stage" M.A.M.E Arcade Cabinet and Touch Screen Jukebox

Here's some pictures of the LED lights:







I swear, I just now saw the following video for the first time today.   It's an actual recording from the Blizzard of Oz tour in 1981- my first concert (although this video is from New York).  Wow- no wonder my lights brought back some crazy memories.  To me, Ozzy's lights are really similar to MY "Stage" lighting.  Getting more ideas now...  MUST HAVE MORE LED's  for the stage area.

Grainy footage, but some great Randy Roads' solos too!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5803159327765623263#


I placed 6 LED's under the cabinet, each set back about 3 inches from the edge.  There are 2 shining forward and one shining to each side of the cabinet. I taped them up to some wire holders and screwed them in.  Then I adjusted them to shine out of the side of the cabinet.



Here's how I mounted almost all of the LED's by just bending a wire clamp and taping up the circuit borad of the RGB led.  Then, it was easy just to screw them in anywhere I wanted them:



I also installed 2  more LED's hidden under the control panel shining down to the floor just in front of the kickplate.

All combined, this machine makes an EXCELLENT "seizure proneness detector".  It needs MORE lights though.  I know I could find a home for about 20 more RGB led's.  

NOTE:  The 2 banks  of inputs on the LED -Wiz match up with the left and right channels of the audio.  One bank of inputs is on each side of the LED -Wiz card. I wired the one bank to the right side of the cabinet lights and the other bank to the left side.

Previously, I was pretty confident wiring car stereos, 12 V car accessories, and basic AC house wiring. Wiring these LED lights and setting up the software for them was a challenge for me.  It was really rewarding seeing them in action for the first time.

You could almost make a hobby in itself just in programming your own animations and animations for specific songs. I also made some "always-on" (no flashing) 1 frame animations and use my cabinet as a night-light in our main living area  (I still can't believe my wife appears to approve-she doesn't play yet, but she seems to like the jukebox).

Staying on track was my main challenge on this project.  I had to keep moving on or else I might never finish it.  It's already taken me 9 months.  I can always go back to these little things later and fine tune them.


RATTLE PROOFING THE CABINET

I had a few serious rattles to take care of. The main culprits were the marquee Plexiglas and the coin doors. The marquee was taking almost the full brunt of the subwoofer pushing the air up the back of the cabinet and rattled/vibrated accordingly. The most relief was had by tightly stuffing some quilt batting up inside the cabinet from the back, right where the angled top meets the back of the arcade.  I also lined the backside of the plexi marquee's bottom edge with 2 layers of double-sided foam tape.  This makes for a nice and tight fit for the plexi marquee; and adds a little shock absorber effect too.  I also placed the double-sided foam tape along the inside edge at  the bottom of each coin door coin which creates a tighter fit for each door, eliminating the rattles there.  I left one side of the tape peel on.  After all of that, everything sounds nice and tight. Now, I can hear the rest of my house rattling.  :)

Twice now in 9 months, the power supply AC plug has vibrated itself loose from the main unit, causing an immediate shutdown of the computer (and great worry).  It's a pretty harsh environment in there when its turned up loud.


TOUCH SCREEN LCD

I just had to have one, you know how it is.  I didn't know exactly what I was going to do with it once I got it.  So, I bought one on eBay that did NOT come with a power supply.  That was a mistake, since I ended up spending $45 to get a working power supply. It was a 4-pin plug to the ELO LCD.  I tried to order a $15 kit from Mouser Electronics but I couldn't figure out how to assemble it and hook it up to my 12V adaptor wires.  There were about 7 pieces to put the power plug together!  Finally, I ordered a power supply from a Chinese eBay seller for $20.  It worked fine until the monitor failed about 3 weeks later.  The red color stopped working- making all of the colors weird.  Boy, seems like the touch-screen gods are against me.

A couple of months later, I ordered another touch-screen from eBay.  I WILL NOT BE DEFEATED.  This one used a more standard power supply that came with it.  I like this touch-screen a lot better.  Its a little different and has a square, boxy shape, whereas the other one was kind of curvy- it matches the cabinet better.  Also, the new screen is a better match color-wise (the first one had a bluish tint to it and didn't have the lettering on the front of it (although the new one has the controls on the front).  I use the AC plug for power, but I could have powered it off of my computer power supply since the screen takes 12 volts.

I mounted the touch-screen to a VESA wall bracket.   I tried a couple of different types before I found one at Wal-Mart that didn't make the monitor stick out too far.  

I'd love to install a black, 4" diameter volume knob on the slanted top of the cabinet, right above the touch screen monitor. The Griffin Power Mate has served me well, but I've since found a site that shows you how to wire a volume pot.  I can't find it now- sorry. It looked pretty easy. I'd keep the Griffin in front and have an additional volume knob in back.  The Griffin knob is  set up for "push to mute", a nice feature.

Here's some more pictures:



























SOFTWARE

You can spend a seemingly endless amount of time configuring all of the software.  I'm currently using MALA front end  because it was the first one of the 3 that I tried, liked, and could somewhat figure out.  I've got it set up in a basic sense but want to do a lot more to it. I have the EmuMovies video previews set up. What a cool feature. My main thing is to keep the interface and look clean and simple.  Recently, I've started adding NES and SNES emulators and plan to do more.  

On the jukebox side, I liked Album Player the best.  I have a lot of configuring work to do there too, but it's set up satisfactorily for now.  I'd like to get a bunch of music videos set up and properly tag all of my songs.  I run WinAmp just as much it seems.  I also downloaded R4 which is a stand-alone visualization program.  It's a great program so far.

I had a difficult time getting the motherboard "on-board" sound and Vista to work with Luminaudio, the fantastic audio animation software from fellow user RandyT at (GREAT) Groovy Game Gear that makes your led's flash to the music.  Previously, Luminaudio was a little tough to set up in XP on my laptop, but I did getting it running well. You need to get into Windows volume control and activate the "stereo mix" for your sound card and adjust the stereo mix volume control all of the way up.  My stereo mix setting was found under recording options.  It was turned off by default and not visible on the list.  I had to right click on the window and select "show ALL devices" in order to see it on the list. Then, I was able to enable it and turn the volume for it up.  It doesn't effect the volume you HEAR, only the input into the LED audio animation programs.

I tried for several hours to get those lights flashing with my new set-up with on-board audio, with no luck. I found and bought a shareware program called Volume Mixer (link) which made it pretty easy to find and configure the settings for "stereo mix". The Volume Mixer program allows you to adjust the volume on some outputs that are "hidden"? in Vista and not available for adjustment (I think). I don't know, I'm pretty fuzzy on it.  I stopped trying to figure it out once I had it working good. :)  Now I'm using the BETA LED Blinky Audio Animation software that fellow user Arzoo emailed to me.  It's great- I love it!  I wasn't able to configure it either without using the Volume Mixer program.   Here's the link to his post about this relatively new beta software:  

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=73905.0

CONCLUSION

I had no clue or plan when I started this project, I just tried to figure it out as I went, following my gut. It was definitely challenging for me and I'm really proud of what I've accomplished.  I learned a lot.  

I'm certainly not finished yet, there are still lots of details to take care of.  At least I think its "showable" now.  I NEVER thought I would get this far. Plus, there are still a lot of improvements and mini-projects still left to do on this cabinet,  Where do you stop?  


















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Re: The Stage ~~~ (RGB LED Lighting)
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2009, 12:42:12 pm »
Nice project...  but the X-Arcade ruins it for me.   :-\

Well, in all fairness, he does point out the error of his ways further up in his thread, and noted that he plans to replace it with a "real" control panel someday.  ;)
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Re: The Stage ~~~ (RGB LED Lighting)
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2009, 12:45:09 pm »
Nice project...  but the X-Arcade ruins it for me.   :-\

Well, in all fairness, he does point out the error of his ways further up in his thread, and noted that he plans to replace it with a "real" control panel someday.  ;)

Ahh, I was skimming, and must have missed that...   8)

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Re: The Stage ~MAME cab & Touch Jukebox w/ RGB LED's
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2009, 12:50:09 pm »
enskpo,

Don't get me wrong, all the new mods are VERY cool, but I can't help but think you should have just taken all that sound equipment, touch screen, etc. and just built a separate jukebox for it all?

Regardless, very nice work!  I like your creative solutions to some of the problems you had to overcome.   :cheers:
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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2009, 01:20:58 pm »

Don't get me wrong, all the new mods are VERY cool, but I can't help but think you should have just taken all that sound equipment, touch screen, etc. and just built a separate jukebox for it all? ...



I agree, but for some reason I never thought about it like that.  Somehow, It just transformed into this on its own. 

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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2009, 09:47:06 pm »
Nice project...  but the X-Arcade ruins it for me.   :-\

I understand. Definitely no offense taken. This IS "build your own arcade controls" after all.  I DO feel a little lacking and would be even prouder to present a project with a custom control panel.

I'm not a true arcade hobbyist.  I'll probably never have another arcade cabinet or real jukebox. But, I do love this place and spend a lot of time here. I just kind of fell into this community after stirring up Robotron memories at my local Costco on the machine they were selling. 

Without the X-Arcade being an option available to me at the time, I probably would have never become a member of this community, and moved on after giving up on the idea.  Or, I would have just bought the machine at Costco. 

Ahh, I was skimming, and must have missed that...

Thanks for taking the time to check it out and comment.  MS Word clocks it in at 9,000+ words.  Yikes!

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Re: The Stage ~~ VIDEO ~~MAME Cab & Touch Jukebox w/ RGB LED's
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2009, 10:15:10 pm »
That's a cool idea, arcade machine one way, spin it around and it's a juke. Saves space in any case. Nice job overall!

I'm not really digging the xarcade either, though. Making your own CP really isn't too tough, even if it seems a little daunting at first.

Truthfully though, you could spend an afternoon, dismantle the xarcade, pop the buttons and sticks out, and lay some custom CP artwork over it and it'd look 100% better.

But, that's something you can do at any time.

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Re: The Stage ~~ VIDEO ~~MAME Cab & Touch Jukebox w/ RGB LED's
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2009, 04:06:20 am »
Here's a video of Mala on my cabinet.  I'm using the Mala "tree".  This is a work in progress too.  Unfortunately, I'm somewhat limited by my Photoshop skills. But I sure stretched my mind and learned a lot putting it together.


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Re: The Stage ~~ VIDEO ~~MAME Cab & Touch Jukebox w/ RGB LED's
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2009, 08:43:18 am »
Nice job on your first cab.  The X arcade got alot of people into BYOAC and it is a very useful CP when dealing with multiple console interfaces.  It will only take a short bit of work to convert it into your own CP to fit your cab so I am sure that after all the work you have done that small step will be easy.

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