Author Topic: UFC 100 predictions (Read 13153 times)

ChadTower · « **Reply #40 on:** July 15, 2009, 10:28:42 am »

He deserved it the way he kept circling back to the power punch of a guy with world class knockout power. I thought his corner guy was going to kill Bisping himself screaming at him to stop circling right. He never did listen and now he's a highlight reel item for someone else.

JeepMonkey · « **Reply #41 on:** July 15, 2009, 01:02:33 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on July 15, 2009, 09:08:53 am

Note that he didn't use his Olympic level wrestling at all.

Bisping predicted that Henderson wouldn't take him down and that he would/could keep the fight on the feet. I guess he was right up until the point he was knocked out.

mr.Curmudgeon · « **Reply #42 on:** July 15, 2009, 03:03:02 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on July 15, 2009, 09:08:53 am

That's how Henderson fights when he has decided to knock someone out. Note that he didn't use his Olympic level wrestling at all.

I seem to remember - in the post-fight interview - Henderson admitted he knew the fight was over, and that he took the additional cheap-shot to shut Bisping up "a little longer".

Could have killed the guy...

ChadTower · « **Reply #43 on:** July 15, 2009, 03:06:09 pm »

Quote from: mr.Curmudgeon on July 15, 2009, 03:03:02 pm

I seem to remember - in the post-fight interview - Henderson admitted he knew the fight was over, and that he took the additional cheap-shot to shut Bisping up "a little longer".

Could have killed the guy...

He also said the next day that was a joke and that he's just not a very funny guy so no one recognized it. That's plausible after watching him on the Ultimate Fighter all season.

Was just poking around and found this. No wonder sports cards are so dead as a kids' hobby now. Even Brock Lesnar has four pricey NFL rookie cards?! The guy never even made it out of training camp.

ChadTower · « **Reply #44 on:** July 16, 2009, 02:30:30 pm »

ChadTower · « **Reply #45 on:** August 04, 2009, 12:12:21 pm »

UFC 101 this weekend... thoughts?

I have:

Penn over Florian via decision.
Silva over Griffin round 2 tko.

Penn-Florian is a fantastic matchup. Both are elite BJJ. BJJ has serious knockout hands and Florian is a high level Muay Thai guy. In the end I see Penn surviving through ground control and Florian showing a little too much respect for Penn's hands.

Silva is going to kick the crap out of Griffin but Griffin is too tough to get in rd 1. Griffin may hang around longer than is good for him in the long run.

shardian · « **Reply #46 on:** August 04, 2009, 01:28:41 pm »

I will take Florian over Penn.

No way Griffin takes down Silva unless he gets really, really lucky.

Cakemeister · « **Reply #47 on:** August 04, 2009, 01:56:53 pm »

Silva by decision.

Since I'm too cheap for pay per view I'll have to watch it next year on Spike.

CCM · « **Reply #48 on:** August 04, 2009, 03:22:13 pm »

Penn by dec. over Florian
Silva over Griffin by spectacular 3rd round KO.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #49 on:** August 04, 2009, 05:25:04 pm »

I agree with Chad exactly.

Quote from: Cakemeister on August 04, 2009, 01:56:53 pm

Since I'm too cheap for pay per view I'll have to watch it next year on Spike.

There's always torrent sites....I'm just saying....

lordtodd75 · « **Reply #50 on:** August 04, 2009, 10:11:15 pm »

Penn over Florian, TKO first round; penn is going to be looking to humiliate florian after his last fight with st pierre (I was in vegas for that one!). he is training hard. Florians Muay Thai is good, but he is not on the penn's level. I feel bad for florian. I will say this. the longer florian makes it in the fight the better his chances.

Silva over Griffin, KO second round; This fight will go like most other silva fights. He will feel forrest out in the first round. Forrest will try to use his strength advantage, lets hope he does not do this in the clinch or the fight may end in the first round. Second round silva will start reigning down blows from every angle. KO by knee if griffin tries to clinch, by kick otherwise.

ChadTower · « **Reply #51 on:** August 09, 2009, 07:17:46 pm »

May as well rename this "I Think I Can Beat Anderson Silva".

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t9SCHLRDoY[/youtube]

Griffin took a dive.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #52 on:** August 09, 2009, 07:37:47 pm »

Run, Forrest, Run!!

ChadTower · « **Reply #53 on:** August 09, 2009, 08:00:40 pm »

Seriously, he fell down slowly, waved the ref over, then ran away. He literally ran away.

chopps · « **Reply #54 on:** August 09, 2009, 10:06:30 pm »

I read on some MMA website that Forrest suffered a broken or dislocated jaw and hearing loss on one side, and ran to the back to get medical attention, but who knows.... regardless he got his ass kicked... i didnt think it would be that bad...

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #55 on:** August 09, 2009, 11:19:18 pm »

Quote from: chopps on August 09, 2009, 10:06:30 pm

I read on some MMA website that Forrest suffered a broken or dislocated jaw and hearing loss on one side, and ran to the back to get medical attention, but who knows.... regardless he got his ass kicked... i didnt think it would be that bad...

I've read that the injury news was wrong (actually, just completely made up).

CCM · « **Reply #56 on:** August 09, 2009, 11:36:18 pm »

Quote from: Ginsu Victim on August 09, 2009, 11:19:18 pm

Quote from: chopps on August 09, 2009, 10:06:30 pm
I read on some MMA website that Forrest suffered a broken or dislocated jaw and hearing loss on one side, and ran to the back to get medical attention, but who knows.... regardless he got his ass kicked... i didnt think it would be that bad...

I've read that the injury news was wrong (actually, just completely made up).

yea, it's being reported on mmaweekly.com that there was no such injury....

shardian · « **Reply #57 on:** August 10, 2009, 11:05:41 am »

That was a weird fight...there was something going on there that we don't know about yet. Even Silva was acting funny - like he knew this fight was a big joke. It was pretty hilarious when he offered to help him up though!

Either way, that was an incredibly embarrassing outing for Griffin.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #58 on:** August 10, 2009, 11:25:20 am »

Quote from: shardian on August 10, 2009, 11:05:41 am

It was pretty hilarious when he offered to help him up though!

Really? I thought it was just him being a cocky ---tallywhacker--- again.

Cakemeister · « **Reply #59 on:** August 10, 2009, 03:59:49 pm »

Griffin quit after one little bitty jab. I think Griffin just quit because he knew Silva was going to destroy him. What a punk.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #60 on:** August 10, 2009, 04:19:26 pm »

Quote from: Cakemeister on August 10, 2009, 03:59:49 pm

Griffin quit after one little bitty jab. I think Griffin just quit because he knew Silva was going to destroy him. What a punk.

That's not the Forrest we know, though. Something had to've happened, we just don't know what yet.

Of course, it looks like he was just avoiding another breakdown in the ring. I don't know what is worse: that TKO followed by fleeing the ring, or staying after that TKO and crying like a ---smurfette---.

ChadTower · « **Reply #61 on:** August 10, 2009, 08:16:39 pm »

Quote from: Ginsu Victim on August 10, 2009, 04:19:26 pm

That's not the Forrest we know, though. Something had to've happened, we just don't know what yet.

My opinion: he was sent out there to make Silva looked good and effed up the "knockout". He needs to take lessons from Vince on how to stage a finish. He was fine when he fell down and waved the ref off. He went down every time Silva hit a strike.

CCM · « **Reply #62 on:** August 11, 2009, 12:09:00 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on August 10, 2009, 08:16:39 pm

Quote from: Ginsu Victim on August 10, 2009, 04:19:26 pm
That's not the Forrest we know, though. Something had to've happened, we just don't know what yet.

My opinion: he was sent out there to make Silva looked good and effed up the "knockout". He needs to take lessons from Vince on how to stage a finish. He was fine when he fell down and waved the ref off. He went down every time Silva hit a strike.

I re-watched the fight and I don't see where he waived the ref off... he went down, looked like he was out of it, saw Anderson standing above him and put his arms up to attempt to feebly block any further strikes. Where did you see him waive off the ref?

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #63 on:** August 11, 2009, 12:17:33 am »

I only saw it when it aired, but it looked like he waved off the ref when I was watching.

ChadTower · « **Reply #64 on:** August 11, 2009, 08:08:56 am »

He did wave off the ref, that's the only reason the ref stopped the fight. That was a submission. All of the reports summarized it that way too. It looks strange mostly because Silva wasn't going to chase him to the ground so there was no reason to submit.

CCM · « **Reply #65 on:** August 11, 2009, 08:24:58 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on August 11, 2009, 08:08:56 am

He did wave off the ref, that's the only reason the ref stopped the fight. That was a submission. All of the reports summarized it that way too. It looks strange mostly because Silva wasn't going to chase him to the ground so there was no reason to submit.

I know that's how it was reported, but I just don't see it. To me it looks like he put his arms up to try to block further strikes. Either way Forrest was schooled...

judge for yourself...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFBtSLEQPvM[/youtube]

ChadTower · « **Reply #66 on:** August 11, 2009, 09:19:23 am »

I look at it this way... when even Joe Rogan almost blurts out "WTF was that" watching the replay it's pretty bad. The UFC needed Silva to win this dominantly in order to set up his next fight which may be their biggest money fight to date. They put in their biggest company man to get it done. Sadly, he's not that smart, and apparently wasn't willing to take a beating in the process.

The best next fight available is Machida but I bet they give him Henderson. Bad news for anyone in the division for which Silva is champion as there isn't much talk of him defending his belt any time soon.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #67 on:** August 11, 2009, 09:31:16 am »

I just rewatched the whole fight, and I see what CCM means. He was trying to defend. You're right.

ChadTower · « **Reply #68 on:** August 11, 2009, 09:37:12 am »

I replayed it about 45 times and disagree. The ref stopped the fight without any immediate danger because of his signal. Since when did the UFC stop fights with a knockdown where the other guy isn't following up? I could see it if he were out like Bisping but he's not. And Silva isn't pounding him in the head. There's no reason for the ref to wave this off when he did other than submission.

shardian · « **Reply #69 on:** August 11, 2009, 09:47:34 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on August 11, 2009, 09:37:12 am

I replayed it about 45 times and disagree. The ref stopped the fight without any immediate danger because of his signal. Since when did the UFC stop fights with a knockdown where the other guy isn't following up? I could see it if he were out like Bisping but he's not. And Silva isn't pounding him in the head. There's no reason for the ref to wave this off when he did other than submission.

Chad is correct. Silva had absolutely no intentions of going to the ground. The ref probably stepped in because it was getting embarrassing for the organization. Hell, he was probably gonna offer him a hand again!

CCM · « **Reply #70 on:** August 11, 2009, 10:13:56 am »

Quote from: shardian on August 11, 2009, 09:47:34 am

Quote from: ChadTower on August 11, 2009, 09:37:12 am

I replayed it about 45 times and disagree. The ref stopped the fight without any immediate danger because of his signal. Since when did the UFC stop fights with a knockdown where the other guy isn't following up? I could see it if he were out like Bisping but he's not. And Silva isn't pounding him in the head. There's no reason for the ref to wave this off when he did other than submission.

Chad is correct. Silva had absolutely no intentions of going to the ground. The ref probably stepped in because it was getting embarrassing for the organization. Hell, he was probably gonna offer him a hand again!

That may well be, but no where did Forrest motion to the ref to stop the fight. Watch the replay, Forrest never even looks at the ref.

ChadTower · « **Reply #71 on:** August 11, 2009, 10:19:49 am »

Because it looks to me like he said it. And he WAS waving his hands with arms extended, which isn't an effective defense against strikes.

CCM · « **Reply #72 on:** August 11, 2009, 10:29:37 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on August 11, 2009, 09:19:23 am

I look at it this way... when even Joe Rogan almost blurts out "WTF was that" watching the replay it's pretty bad. The UFC needed Silva to win this dominantly in order to set up his next fight which may be their biggest money fight to date. They put in their biggest company man to get it done. Sadly, he's not that smart, and apparently wasn't willing to take a beating in the process.

The best next fight available is Machida but I bet they give him Henderson. Bad news for anyone in the division for which Silva is champion as there isn't much talk of him defending his belt any time soon.

I'm not buying into your conspiracy theories. I think Forrest was out-classed, frustrated, and completely forgot his game plan, if he even had one to begin with. Granted, the last punch that put him out didn't look like much, but he was probably still fuzzy from the 2 prior knock-downs.

I admit that Forrest didn't look quite right in the fight, but there is no denying how hard Silva can hit. You rarely see Henderson, Marquardt, or Leben rocked as badly as what Silva did to them.

In the post fight press conference Silva said that there is no way he would ever fight Machida, he said they are brothers and that fight will never happen... For the right amount of money and pressure from Dana, who knows.

CCM · « **Reply #73 on:** August 11, 2009, 10:33:09 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on August 11, 2009, 10:19:49 am

Because it looks to me like he said it. And he WAS waving his hands with arms extended, which isn't an effective defense against strikes.

Waving his hands? Are you watching the right fight?? Forrest goes down, arms flat out to his side. He immediately brings his left arm straight up towards Silva, and brings his right arm over and across his face. How can you interpret that as waving his hands

THE POKER BRAT · « **Reply #74 on:** August 11, 2009, 10:43:51 am »

All i wanna see is

-VS-

any bets??

ChadTower · « **Reply #75 on:** August 11, 2009, 10:45:22 am »

Quote from: CCM on August 11, 2009, 10:29:37 am

In the post fight press conference Silva said that there is no way he would ever fight Machida, he said they are brothers and that fight will never happen... For the right amount of money and pressure from Dana, who knows.

That question was asked recently and White said if he thought it was the best fight it definitely would happen. He said it with Silva and his interpreter sitting there, too. The UFC has a history of not bending to individual fighters on who their opponents should be.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #76 on:** August 11, 2009, 04:17:23 pm »

Quote from: THE POKER BRAT on August 11, 2009, 10:43:51 am

All i wanna see is

-VS- any bets??

Brock. Kimbo is a ---smurfing--- joke.

THE POKER BRAT · « **Reply #77 on:** August 11, 2009, 04:26:50 pm »

Whats wrong with that fight,..i would love to see that one!...thats a FANTASY match!....think about it,..brocks ego will make him snap and hell be the agressor,..kimbo will take what he has learned so far and try to put brock out early,..i see more of a streetfight out of these two . they are pretty much evenly matched in physical appearance,..one is black the other white,..both have issues,......why not. itll make good for tv
and heres the crowd>>

_kick his but!..

get him, get gim!

beat him you muther fu---

lets see some blood!

i root for the bad guy!

yeaaaaahhhhhhhhh!

shardian · « **Reply #78 on:** August 11, 2009, 04:33:37 pm »

Quote from: Ginsu Victim on August 11, 2009, 04:17:23 pm

Brock. Kimbo is a ---smurfing--- joke.

But wouldn't it be Karmic hilarity if Kimbo walked in and landed a hail marry lucky punch? C'mon, that would be worth the price of admission. Of course, so would a brutal beatdown.

shardian · « **Reply #79 on:** August 11, 2009, 04:36:28 pm »

C'mon dude, Kimbo made his name fighting 40 year old out of shape guys in a back alley. The one time he fought a real fighter, he lost and whined. In MMA, he didn't fight anybody, and technically got beat by Mr. exploding ear.

Brock has a legitimate Amateur wrestling career, and has shown he is physically dominant and conditioned in the octagon. He would crush Kimbo within the first round.


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