Author Topic: UFC 100 predictions (Read 12799 times)

shardian · « **Reply #80 on:** August 11, 2009, 04:38:32 pm »

As for Forrest, I rewatched it, and it appears he was mostly out of it, and raised his hands in defense when the ref stepped over him. in other words, he saw a blurry shape coming in and threw up his hands. it wasn't even Silva!

I guess it is possible that he got his bell rung early. That last shot was right on the button. Reminds me alot of the shot that took down Kimbo.

Malenko · « **Reply #81 on:** August 11, 2009, 05:11:29 pm »

Forrest did better then I would have.

Cakemeister · « **Reply #82 on:** August 11, 2009, 06:25:10 pm »

Kimbo doesn't deserve to fight Brock.

THE POKER BRAT · « **Reply #83 on:** August 11, 2009, 09:01:01 pm »

you must mean this guy(MR EXPLODING EAR)mmmmmm...YUMMY!

THE POKER BRAT · « **Reply #84 on:** August 11, 2009, 09:26:28 pm »

ok ok,..you rather see this instead,...

-VS-

shardian · « **Reply #85 on:** August 12, 2009, 07:43:26 am »

Tyrone Biggums would destroy that mo-fo.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #86 on:** August 12, 2009, 08:29:35 am »

Quote from: shardian on August 12, 2009, 07:43:26 am

Tyrone Biggums would destroy that mo-fo.

Yeah, you can't catch a crackhead. He'd be all over the place.

ChadTower · « **Reply #87 on:** October 30, 2009, 11:32:54 am »

Machida-Rua? Opinions?

I think the decision could have gone either way, really, but agree that Machida was closer to winning. Neither guy really did enough visible damage to make a clear case. "Moving forward" isn't much of a determining factor with a stick and move fighter in there.

The UFC commentary has gone beyond useless. They pick out a fighter at the start of the fight and talk about him as if he has already won - it's less convincing than the WWE commentary at this point. A few times Rogan went "Oh nice left to the temple by Rua" and Rua hadn't even thrown one.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #88 on:** October 30, 2009, 11:40:19 am »

I thought, like everyone else in the room while we watched, that Rua had won (though it was close). The judges didn't see it that way.

ChadTower · « **Reply #89 on:** October 30, 2009, 11:43:11 am »

Quote from: Ginsu Victim on October 30, 2009, 11:40:19 am

I thought, like everyone else in the room while we watched, that Rua had won (though it was close). The judges didn't see it that way.

Try watching it again with the TV muted. See if that changes anything.

It's pretty obvious that, like so many UFC champions, Machida has gone right into conservative "don't lose" mode. With his elusive style he could end up harder to watch than Tim Sylvia.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #90 on:** October 30, 2009, 11:45:30 am »

That's why I don't really care to see a Machida vs Anderson Silva match. Two guys doing what you just said. Yuck.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #91 on:** October 30, 2009, 11:49:42 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on October 30, 2009, 11:43:11 am

Try watching it again with the TV muted. See if that changes anything.

The crowd couldn't hear the commentary. By the last round, their chants changed from Machida to Shogun. They thought he was winning too.

shardian · « **Reply #92 on:** October 30, 2009, 11:49:53 am »

Quote from: Ginsu Victim on October 30, 2009, 11:45:30 am

That's why I don't really care to see a Machida vs Anderson Silva match. Two guys doing what you just said. Yuck.

You think so? Silva would play that game for a round or two, but would then start going for a knockout - which he would get.

ChadTower · « **Reply #93 on:** October 30, 2009, 11:58:32 am »

Quote from: Ginsu Victim on October 30, 2009, 11:49:42 am

The crowd couldn't hear the commentary. By the last round, their chants changed from Machida to Shogun. They thought he was winning too.

The crowd boos every fight that isn't a bloodbath. You've been to live fights too. When the fight is this even all you can see is who is moving forward. Machida had done just as much damage as Rua did in the end, the only difference was in style.

Quote from: shardian on October 30, 2009, 11:49:53 am

You think so? Silva would play that game for a round or two, but would then start going for a knockout - which he would get.

Not against Machida he wouldn't. He has already said more than a few times he won't even fight the guy. If they were forced to fight I'm betting Silva would take it to the ground immediately.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #94 on:** October 30, 2009, 12:02:13 pm »

I did say it was close. I just felt that Rua had done enough to get the W.

I don't pay attention to the commentary because wrestling taught me to ignore it.

How the hell is a dive off a turnbuckle to the floor 15 ft? How is the top of the cage 60 ft?!?

STONE COLD! STONE COLD! STONE COLD!

CCM · « **Reply #95 on:** October 30, 2009, 12:04:32 pm »

I've watched that fight 3 times now, and I think it was extremely close, but I do believe that Machida won.

I have to agree that Joe Rogan is terrible lately at his commentary. There was one flurry in particular, I think in the 4th round, where he said great right hand by Rua, and something about a high-kick by Rua, but when you actually watch the replay, the right hand flat-out missed and the high-kick was blocked.

I'm more disappointed about Lesnar pulling out of 106 and Alves pulling out of 107.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #96 on:** October 30, 2009, 12:05:35 pm »

Lesnar pulled out? Man, I wanted to see that fight.

CCM · « **Reply #97 on:** October 30, 2009, 12:07:17 pm »

Quote from: Ginsu Victim on October 30, 2009, 12:05:35 pm

Lesnar pulled out? Man, I wanted to see that fight.

Yea, the report is that he has been extremely sick for over 3 weeks and hasn't been able to train properly. I believe the fight will be moved to 108 on Jan. 2nd.

And Alves was set for a rematch with Fitch on 107 and Alves screwed up his knee.

ChadTower · « **Reply #98 on:** October 30, 2009, 12:13:16 pm »

Quote from: Ginsu Victim on October 30, 2009, 12:02:13 pm

How the hell is a dive off a turnbuckle to the floor 15 ft? How is the top of the cage 60 ft?!?

If you stand next to an assembled ring the top buckle is like 9-10' high. Some are higher. It's not that much of an exaggeration.

Now, 60'...

The top of that Hell in a Cell cage is pretty freakin high when you see it in person but it's nothing like 60' for sure.

It looked like half that.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #99 on:** October 30, 2009, 12:18:20 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on October 30, 2009, 12:13:16 pm

If you stand next to an assembled ring the top buckle is like 9-10' high. Some are higher. It's not that much of an exaggeration.

Yeah, I know it's not much of one, but it's still them overselling everything.

Don't get me started on the supposed weight and height of certain guys...

CCM · « **Reply #100 on:** November 05, 2009, 03:05:13 pm »

Quote from: CCM on October 30, 2009, 12:07:17 pm

Quote from: Ginsu Victim on October 30, 2009, 12:05:35 pm
Lesnar pulled out? Man, I wanted to see that fight.

Yea, the report is that he has been extremely sick for over 3 weeks and hasn't been able to train properly. I believe the fight will be moved to 108 on Jan. 2nd.

And Alves was set for a rematch with Fitch on 107 and Alves screwed up his knee.

Ugh.... now Lesnar is out of 108 with mono. Who knows if we'll ever see him fight Carwin at this point.

ChadTower · « **Reply #101 on:** November 05, 2009, 03:36:43 pm »

Quote from: CCM on November 05, 2009, 03:05:13 pm

Ugh.... now Lesnar is out of 108 with mono. Who knows if we'll ever see him fight Carwin at this point.

Yeah. I don't understand how a sitting champion can be out that many events without forfeiting the title. Now we get how many straight events without a heavyweight title fight? Last one was UFC 100 - now we're at least to UFC 108 and probably like UFC 111.

CCM · « **Reply #102 on:** November 05, 2009, 04:41:52 pm »

The UFC is screwed for 108. They usually like to make the New Year's show one of the biggest of the year and there will be no title fights on that card:

Lesnar - mono
Machida - hand surgery
Silva - elbow surgey
GSP - just started training again after groin surgery
Penn - fighting at 107

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #103 on:** November 06, 2009, 10:15:06 am »

Ever check out www.totallylookslike.com?

Two I submitted:

chopps · « **Reply #104 on:** November 08, 2009, 05:48:28 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on November 05, 2009, 03:36:43 pm

Yeah. I don't understand how a sitting champion can be out that many events without forfeiting the title. Now we get how many straight events without a heavyweight title fight? Last one was UFC 100 - now we're at least to UFC 108 and probably like UFC 111.

How long did Randy Couture sit out without being stripped of the title? 2 years? Yeah they had the "interm title" but as soon as Randy re-signed with UFC he was billed as the heavyweight champion... I guess UFC doesnt have the old pro wrestling 30day clause...

ChadTower · « **Reply #105 on:** November 23, 2009, 09:38:19 am »

Am I the only one who thought the Griffin-Ortiz fight was fishy? You've got a guy in there known specifically for pushing the pace and fighting mostly on the ground and the first two rounds are split. We're supposed to buy that he spends the whole third round standing in front of Griffin without any effort to take it to the ground and throwing only 4 or so punches? He had tons of energy left - that third round was so out of character for Tito Ortiz I half wonder if that dude was actually some imposter.

shardian · « **Reply #106 on:** November 23, 2009, 10:26:54 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on November 23, 2009, 09:38:19 am

Am I the only one who thought the Griffin-Ortiz fight was fishy? You've got a guy in there known specifically for pushing the pace and fighting mostly on the ground and the first two rounds are split. We're supposed to buy that he spends the whole third round standing in front of Griffin without any effort to take it to the ground and throwing only 4 or so punches? He had tons of energy left - that third round was so out of character for Tito Ortiz I half wonder if that dude was actually some imposter.

He said he had a bulged disc and cracked skull going into the fight. I would think the fight would be scrapped for a cracked skull, but he might be telling the truth on the disc thing. He probably needs the money badly, and fought through it.

ChadTower · « **Reply #107 on:** November 23, 2009, 10:34:46 am »

Quote from: shardian on November 23, 2009, 10:26:54 am

He said he had a bulged disc and cracked skull going into the fight.

Prior to the fight he did about 100 interviews saying his back is 100% and healthier than it has been in years. Can't be both, right?

shardian · « **Reply #108 on:** November 23, 2009, 10:45:52 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on November 23, 2009, 10:34:46 am

Quote from: shardian on November 23, 2009, 10:26:54 am
He said he had a bulged disc and cracked skull going into the fight.

Prior to the fight he did about 100 interviews saying his back is 100% and healthier than it has been in years. Can't be both, right?

Would you rather him say "My back hurts like hell and the fight is gonna suck balls" ? Yeah, that would sell PPV buys and earn him another PPV fight...

ChadTower · « **Reply #109 on:** November 23, 2009, 11:04:11 am »

Quote from: shardian on November 23, 2009, 10:45:52 am

Would you rather him say "My back hurts like hell and the fight is gonna suck balls" ? Yeah, that would sell PPV buys and earn him another PPV fight...

I'd rather them not book him if he can't fight. That's not so much my point, though. The guy didn't try anything in the third round other than standing there and letting Griffin spar on his head. That totally stinks of "leave it to the judges so Griffin can get his payback". A wrestler who isn't afraid of a knockout takes things to the ground. That's what they do. A wrestler tired of getting leg kicked who isn't afraid of a knockout should be chasing him like Tom and Jerry.

OTOH, for a dude who is only interested in standing and banging, is there anyone in any division with less KO power than Forrest Griffin?

Epyx · « **Reply #110 on:** November 23, 2009, 11:28:11 am »

In 105, I was hoping my local boy Denis Kang and fellow co-worker could have taught Bisping "Mr. Arrogance" a thing or two but ended up getting his own arse kicked

ChadTower · « **Reply #111 on:** November 23, 2009, 11:49:49 am »

I think Dan Henderson taught Bisping all he'll ever need to know.

Epyx · « **Reply #112 on:** November 23, 2009, 06:06:57 pm »

LOL aye...that he did.

CCM · « **Reply #113 on:** November 24, 2009, 12:19:55 pm »

Quote from: shardian on November 23, 2009, 10:45:52 am

Quote from: ChadTower on November 23, 2009, 10:34:46 am
Quote from: shardian on November 23, 2009, 10:26:54 am
He said he had a bulged disc and cracked skull going into the fight.

Prior to the fight he did about 100 interviews saying his back is 100% and healthier than it has been in years. Can't be both, right?

Would you rather him say "My back hurts like hell and the fight is gonna suck balls" ? Yeah, that would sell PPV buys and earn him another PPV fight...

Does this surprise you about Tito... that is his M.O... lose the fight and make endless excuses. I would have been fine if he said he was gassed, had ring-rust, etc... but to claim you had a cracked skull....

CCM · « **Reply #114 on:** November 24, 2009, 12:23:29 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on November 23, 2009, 11:04:11 am

OTOH, for a dude who is only interested in standing and banging, is there anyone in any division with less KO power than Forrest Griffin?

No kidding! In his 17 wins, Forrest has only 1 ko and 2 tko's (one of which was stopped due to a cut), the rest submissions or decisions..

ChadTower · « **Reply #115 on:** November 24, 2009, 12:58:15 pm »

Quote from: CCM on November 24, 2009, 12:19:55 pm

Does this surprise you about Tito... that is his M.O... lose the fight and make endless excuses. I would have been fine if he said he was gassed, had ring-rust, etc... but to claim you had a cracked skull....

I wonder if he makes those excuses with his wife... she's more pro than he ever was...


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