"WALL·E", who is going to see it?

[Dartful Dodger]

I can totally see that people who get 100% service from robots for 700 years on an isolated cruise ship would eventually breed total and complete dependence.

What is not believable about that?

I saw that as the moral of the story.

Global warming was just the reason people left the planet, not the lesson of the story. It could have been a plague or sun spots that forced the people to leave Earth and the same lesson would still be there.  If this story was pushing the global warming theory the people would be abusing the ship the same way they allegedly abused the planet.

It was an amusing story and the animation was good.  It's worth seeing.  If it was a real 3D movie it would have been worth seeing it on an iMax, but as it is you don’t lose anything by renting it.

They didn't explain if WALL-e was given a personality by accident(like Johny-5) or if he was programmed with one.  Eva and the other robots had a personality so I'd assume he was programmed with one too.  It would have been better as a Robinson Crusoe type story.  Focused on him "developing" a personality and figuring out that he was alone and then trying to find other forms of intelligent life. 

[Hoopz]

I like the ease of use of the propane v. wood for sure.  The first time I use mine each spring, it's a struggle to get the thing to stay at the right temp.  I probably use too much wood at times as I burn then add wood chunks soaked in water to regulate it.  Hey, it gives me something to do.  

From what I've read, mesquite is good to add flavor towards the end but if you smoke with it for hours on end, it can leave a bad flavor in the meat.  Hickory is great and I was surprised to find that oak was a big one also.  

I've never used it with my rack less than full.  I'll always throw something on to fill it up.  Even a cheap butt roast is great after 8+ hours on the grill.  I eat the stuff all week for lunch at work so that helps.  

Bookmarked that link.  Thanks for the tease.  

The other cool aspect of that cookbook are the recipes for the rubs.  I use them all the time in the kitchen all year round.  

[SavannahLion]

I can totally see that people who get 100% service from robots for 700 years on an isolated cruise ship would eventually breed total and complete dependence.

What is not believable about that?

I saw that as the moral of the story.

Global warming was just the reason people left the planet, not the lesson of the story. It could have been a plague or sun spots that forced the people to leave Earth and the same lesson would still be there.  If this story was pushing the global warming theory the people would be abusing the ship the same way they allegedly abused the planet.

They are abusing the ship, none of the people realize it though. As far as the people are concerned, everything is sanitized, prepackaged, and handed to them via robots. They still produce garbage up the whazzoo and recycling isn't exactly high on the priority list. You see evidence of this when Wall-e and Eve get dropped down the garbage chute and meet the two Wall-r's shoving huge cubes of trash into deep space.

They don't necessarily explain how the ship can sustain itself for 700 years in deep space when they're shoving scarce resources out the ship. I guess the assumption is they get raw materials in some manner. In any case, like you said, it's not really the underlying message in the movie.

They didn't explain if WALL-e was given a personality by accident(like Johny-5) or if he was programmed with one.  Eva and the other robots had a personality so I'd assume he was programmed with one too.  It would have been better as a Robinson Crusoe type story.  Focused on him "developing" a personality and figuring out that he was alone and then trying to find other forms of intelligent life. 

Interestingly, I suspect he was given one by accident. Evidenced by the destuction and replacement of one of his circuit boards. After his "death" he doesn't express any personality until Eve holds his hand. I get the impression that each of the robots have the potential for a personality, but something needs to trigger it. The stewards all lack personality, yet each of the robots in recovery exhibit a personality. Eves develope over time. The secretary expresses nothing until it encounters Wall-e. So on and so forth.

[ChadTower]

The old ghost in the machine syndrome.

[shardian]

All those bacon things look NASTY!!!

I'm not a bacon fan at all. Don't get me wrong - I love meat. Bacon is a completely useless food though. 2 strips isn't nearly enough to fill you up, yet it has more artery clogging 'stuff' than a whole plate of food!

It reminds me of this skit:
http://video.aol.com/partner/hulu/saturday-night-live-taco-town/l9Q4TYNV6ncUQ1eiyimR5amQ-Olfobyw

[HaRuMaN]

I'm not a bacon fan at all.

You should be banned from BYOAC for making that statement!

Don't get me wrong - I love meat.

I bet you do...   

[ChadTower]

All those bacon things look NASTY!!!

I'm not a bacon fan at all. Don't get me wrong - I love meat. Bacon is a completely useless food though. 2 strips isn't nearly enough to fill you up, yet it has more artery clogging 'stuff' than a whole plate of food!

It reminds me of this skit:
http://video.aol.com/partner/hulu/saturday-night-live-taco-town/l9Q4TYNV6ncUQ1eiyimR5amQ-Olfobyw

This post is way too preachy.  I couldn't even find the jokes!  The blasphemy is flat out offensive.  Bacon useless?  You, sir, ain't right.

[shardian]

Breakfast Sausage > Bacon


The only thing I can think of with bacon that I truly like is a bacon stuffed chicken dish my wife makes. It's Turkey Bacon though, so it doesn't truly count.


And when I was a kid, I would routinely make bacon sandwiches for breakfast using the microwave and a bacon tray. Nowaday's I just don't like the stuff.

[ChadTower]

Breakfast Sausage > Bacon

Dude, the stuff I posted is both.

Bacon is mostly a flavor thing... and so very different from a slow bbq than off a stove.

[SavannahLion]

And when I was a kid, I would routinely make bacon sandwiches for breakfast using the microwave and a bacon tray. Nowaday's I just don't like the stuff.

This forum really needs a barfing animation. That's... just so wrong on so many levels. It's akin to using that meatless veggie bacon.

[shardian]

I think you quoted the wrong part. Using a microwave tray for bacon works well. I assume you meant to quote where I said we used turkey bacon.

[Hoopz]

And when I was a kid, I would routinely make bacon sandwiches for breakfast using the microwave and a bacon tray. Nowaday's I just don't like the stuff.

This forum really needs a barfing animation. That's... just so wrong on so many levels. It's akin to using that meatless veggie bacon.

QFT

Using a microwave to "prepare" (cause it ain't cooking) bacon is the ultimate evil. 

[shardian]

Really? The microwave gave it an even crispness that the stove could not do.

[HaRuMaN]

Really? The microwave gave it an even crispness that the stove could not do.

Blech @ the microwave

I cook bacon on an electric griddle and even crispness every time.  (Cook at 400F)

[ChadTower]

American bacon is more like an ingredient anyway.  You use it to add flavor to other things.  It's not all that great on its own.

[ahofle]

I also rank this movie way up there and I agree that it gets better after the first watch.  I didn't think it was preachy at all.

Someone mentioned the lack of emotional attachment to the characters and minimal dialog.  I actually thought it was genius how they conveyed the robots emotions, especially EVE's eyes (on an arcade related note, I love the artificial scanlines!).  Like when she giddily pops the bubble wrap paper, or at the end when she is distressed that Wall-E doesn't remember her.  When she lights the light bulb in her hand her eyes briefly resemble a wall socket, etc.  Sound effects and music were both top notch too.

Regarding the human-like traits of the robots, I assumed at least some of it was built in.  For example when EVE is in the repair ward and they take her arm off and tickle her to make sure she responds with laughter.

[Edgedamage]

I also rank this movie way up there and I agree that it gets better after the first watch.  I didn't think it was preachy at all.

Someone mentioned the lack of emotional attachment to the characters and minimal dialog.  I actually thought it was genius how they conveyed the robots emotions, especially EVE's eyes (on an arcade related note, I love the artificial scanlines!).  Like when she giddily pops the bubble wrap paper, or at the end when she is distressed that Wall-E doesn't remember her.  When she lights the light bulb in her hand her eyes briefly resemble a wall socket, etc.  Sound effects and music were both top notch too.

Regarding the human-like traits of the robots, I assumed at least some of it was built in.  For example when EVE is in the repair ward and they take her arm off and tickle her to make sure she responds with laughter.

Did you not feel sorry for the cockroach when wall-e left.

[AtomSmasher]

I saw this on dvd a little while ago and I'd say it was pretty good.  It is a bit preachy, but not overly so.  I wouldn't consider it a must see or even close to Pixars best, but it is worth seeing.

[Ed_McCarron]

Heh.  Did I ever post a pic of my kids halloween costumes this past year?

[Hoopz]

Here, for your torture, is the bacon explosion.

NY Times article regarding this delicacy:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/28/dining/28bacon.html?no_interstitial