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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #80 on: September 18, 2005, 11:55:23 am »
"Revolution to launch with 221 free games?"

http://www.gamesradar.com/?pagetypeid=2&articleid=36169&subsectionid=1587

VERY interesting...

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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #81 on: September 18, 2005, 12:09:19 pm »
Nintendo does have interesting and innovative ideas, but there is no chance in hello that this console will "kill" Sony and Microsoft's consoles, because Nintendo are out of touch with gamers.

Who said that they are out to kill Sony or Microsoft's consoles?  They are trying to stay out of direct competition with those consoles, by their own statements.  They are creating an alternative console with an alternative experience.

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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #82 on: September 18, 2005, 12:22:01 pm »
Nintendo does have interesting and innovative ideas, but there is no chance in hello that this console will "kill" Sony and Microsoft's consoles, because Nintendo are out of touch with gamers.

Who said that they are out to kill Sony or Microsoft's consoles? They are trying to stay out of direct competition with those consoles, by their own statements. They are creating an alternative console with an alternative experience.


Someone else stated it. I was replying to him with that statement, without bothering to throw another quote into my post.

My bad... I will go throw a quote in right now. :P



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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #83 on: September 18, 2005, 02:11:49 pm »
I think alot of good points have been made above... but some things are all floating around as rumors still.

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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #84 on: September 18, 2005, 05:56:19 pm »
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the controler ports ontop are gc compatable hardware wise, does that guarentee software compatable?  probably not.

The Revolution is fully hardware and software compatible with the Gamecube.  Plug your Gamecube controller in, load up your Gamecube disk, and have at it.

Pretty interesting that a company that has stayed away from backwards compatibility with its consoles is releasing a system that can play NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube, and Revolution games.

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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #85 on: September 18, 2005, 09:10:16 pm »
"Revolution to launch with 221 free games?"

http://www.gamesradar.com/?pagetypeid=2&articleid=36169&subsectionid=1587

VERY interesting...

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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #86 on: September 18, 2005, 09:45:36 pm »
If they are releasing backward compatability *AND* free ROMs, they get a sale from me.  I praise any company making retro titles available legitimately to its users.

Bring it on!

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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #87 on: September 18, 2005, 09:57:21 pm »
If that news about the back catalogue of 1st party titles being free is true, then they definitely do have a first day sale from me, based on just that alone.


I will support any company that does something like that.



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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #88 on: September 19, 2005, 04:04:25 am »

Nintendo does have interesting and innovative ideas, but there is no chance in hello that this console will "kill" Sony and Microsoft's consoles, because Nintendo are out of touch with gamers. I appreciate the ideas they come up with, because I love what the competition does when they steal them.

Honestly... I have been very happy with games being made these days, and I am not looking for a "revolution". I am always looking for better quality put into games, and I am looking for more online focus, but I don't need some magical controller that will totally change the way I play games.


Personally, I'm not sure Nintendo can beat Sony/Microsoft right now, and if Nintendo's console meets with success (and probably even if it doesn't) we will see these new ideas, like every other aspect of the competition's controllers, copied.

Now I agree with you about games today being better than ever before, but if you were "looking" for a revolution it would probably just be evolution.  That's kinda the thing about revolutions.  Like Super Mario Bros. or Super Mario 3 or Street Figher II or Metroid or Super Mario 64, revolutions generally knock us on our collective ass because we weren't looking for them.  If this device lives up to its promise it will be a revolution regardless of whether you looked for it.

We were perfectly happy with Donkey Kong Country before Super Mario 64, with a revolutionary new controller, appeared out of nowhere.  Nobody was looking for a revolution then either.
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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #89 on: September 19, 2005, 06:41:23 am »
If that news about the back catalogue of 1st party titles being free is true, then they definitely do have a first day sale from me, based on just that alone.


I will support any company that does something like that.




If that is true than I will also buy one, last new console I bought was a Nes when I was 12. They will have gotten me as a customer.

The only thing is that I won't buy a single game until 8 years later when I can buy them for $3 each on ebay.
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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #90 on: September 19, 2005, 10:37:22 am »
You'll still be doing them a favor as your sale will influence third parties to support the system, cos they don't know that you don't plan to buy games.
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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #91 on: September 19, 2005, 10:44:17 am »

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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #92 on: September 19, 2005, 11:36:28 am »
Like everyone else, I had already heard that downloadable Nintendo classics would be available. The fact that they are going to be free just pushes me right over the top. I'm very seriously considering buying one at launch and I never do that. The only system I've ever been an early adopter on was the 2600.

This is the first new system that I've been genuinely excited about in a long time. I can't wait to hear more about it. I sincerely hope that it turns out to be as cool as it sounds like it's going to be.

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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #93 on: September 19, 2005, 11:39:51 am »

Alas, I am waiting on the hammer to drop on this one.  There is too much money to be made off of those downloadable games.  I await the announcement that the free downloads will have expiration dates on them, or will be time limited demos, or something else that forces you to pay $4/rom to keep them indefinitely.

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« Reply #94 on: September 19, 2005, 12:17:46 pm »
The rumor I heard was that first party games would be free, but third party games would not.  Still, that gives the Revolution an impressive number of launch titles if true.

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« Reply #95 on: September 19, 2005, 12:23:21 pm »
Most of the games I'd want to play anyway would be first party title, so I REALLY hope this turns out to be true.

To have the back catalog of Nintendo available at launch would be amazing.... it'd even make buying the few 3rd party title I might be interested in for $3-5 a lot more bearable.
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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #96 on: September 19, 2005, 12:27:31 pm »
Well hopefully Nintendo is doing their market research because, christ, look at this thread. 

In fact....wow....something amazing just occurred to me.  You know what's REALLY special about this?  What is Nintendo's biggest problem in the market today?  Shall we say they've got a bit of an image issue?  People associate the Nintendo name with a child plaything.  The average gamer today is over 18 and that number just keeps getting higher, which is continually shrinking Nintendo's market share.

Well, nobody currently under 18 years old could care less about these classic games.  Think about the reaction this has got in this thread, especially with regard to versapak, who went from outright contempt to plans to buy it on launch-day.  Imagine what it means to Nintendo, particularly with regards to drawing 3rd parties, to have a significant userbase over the age of 14.  If enough adults own and use the system 3rd parties WILL support it with content for adults, which will draw even more adults.  And, of course, Nintendo will continue providing the E for Everyone games.

I'm starting to come around.  Nintendo is acting unusually shrewd here.  I'm starting to think this thing might not be such a long shot.  Let's just hope that there are some people with development kits in their hands.  I suspect there are at least Alpha kits since I've seen various developers from EA to Sega talking about how much they like the controller (and making it clear that they liked it before the public unveiling.
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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #97 on: September 19, 2005, 12:34:22 pm »
This thread has really gotten me interested in the Revolution. I have to say that I had more or less decided that my next new system would be a PS3 and then not until the first major price drop, which is almost always a year after launch. At this point I can't imagine not buying a Revolution, and soon after launch at that.

Has there been any kind of tentative launch date yet? I mean other than "sometime in 2006".

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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #98 on: September 19, 2005, 12:42:50 pm »

Can't say I'm overly thrilled at the prospect of playing an N64 game with any of the available controllers, nor SNES, nor NES.  They need to address that before I even consider replacing the original hardware in my entertainment centre.

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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #99 on: September 19, 2005, 12:47:27 pm »

Can't say I'm overly thrilled at the prospect of playing an N64 game with any of the available controllers, nor SNES, nor NES.  They need to address that before I even consider replacing the original hardware in my entertainment centre.

I know you saw this, becaus eyou commented on it last week:

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Iwata addressed concerns people might have about playing retro games on the Revolution's new controller through its virtual console backwards compatibility, saying that classic-styled expansion controllers would be available so people could enjoy the games as they originally remembered them.

So it looks like Nintendo will sell classic controllers compatible with the Revolution.

And does anyone else think the Revolution looks much, much better when you take it out of that silly stand and lay it flat? I never used the stand for my PS2, and I doubt I'll use the one that comes with the Revolution either.



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« Reply #100 on: September 19, 2005, 12:53:49 pm »

We have not yet seen said classic controllers, thus I have no reason to consider them at this point.  Can't say I have a ton of interest in dropping $300 on the console and then $30 each on three "new" N64 controllers to replace a $10 N64 and three $6 controllers.

The N64 is the system that sees by far the most play in my house.

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« Reply #101 on: September 19, 2005, 02:01:43 pm »
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Can't say I have a ton of interest in dropping $300 on the console and then $30 each on three "new" N64 controllers to replace a $10 N64 and three $6 controllers.

The console should retail for around $199.  Not sure how much classic controllers will cost however.

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And does anyone else think the Revolution looks much, much better when you take it out of that silly stand and lay it flat? I never used the stand for my PS2, and I doubt I'll use the one that comes with the Revolution either.

I agree.  It would look right at home among my other home theater equipment, unlike the Gamecube.
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« Reply #102 on: September 19, 2005, 02:03:27 pm »

Can't say moving from $300 to $199 makes any difference.

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« Reply #103 on: September 19, 2005, 02:07:37 pm »
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Can't say moving from $300 to $199 makes any difference.

Sounds like your mind is made up.  You're best bet then would be to hold on to your N64 and buy one of the other next gen systems.

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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #104 on: September 19, 2005, 02:10:34 pm »

My best bet, likely what I will do, is to keep the N64 and buy none of the next gen systems.

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« Reply #105 on: September 19, 2005, 02:17:38 pm »
That works as well.   :)

I haven't quite decided what to do.  I skipped the last generation and may skip the next.  The Revolution does intrigue me however.

If the PS3 manages to come in at $300 or less, I'll probably pick one up just for the ability to play high def movies via the blu-ray drive.
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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #106 on: September 19, 2005, 02:27:48 pm »

I have a GC, but only because my wife bought it for my birthday a while back.  It gets little play from anyone in my house.  Nearly all of my console gaming is either Saturn or TurboExpress, and my kids stick with the N64 almost exclusively.

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« Reply #107 on: September 19, 2005, 02:58:44 pm »
you know....for the first time in a LONG while I'm actually excited again about a new system.

I watched the revolution promo video....and thought to myself wow how cool. A BACK TO BASICS!...approach.

You know as a MAME
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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #108 on: September 19, 2005, 03:02:39 pm »

It's funny... all these companies bringing out new, high power stuff for years and no one is excited, they just want it inexpensive.

Nintendo repackages old stuff we already have, makes it expensive again, and people are sexually aroused in anticipation.


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« Reply #109 on: September 19, 2005, 03:26:30 pm »
Anyone seen this? It's just another mockup, but it gives you an idea of some of the future applications for this motion sensitive controller.

Edit: Image gets distorted when shrunk down like that. Click here for the full sized version.

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« Reply #110 on: September 19, 2005, 03:29:50 pm »

so, it's a motion sensitive toilet seat controller?

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« Reply #111 on: September 19, 2005, 04:12:21 pm »
Hey ChadTower. You want to, I don't know, stop behaving like a jackass?

You don't like the Revolution, we get it. You don't have to keep posting dumbass one liners to remind us every other post.

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« Reply #112 on: September 19, 2005, 04:22:13 pm »
Hey ChadTower. You want to, I don't know, stop behaving like a jackass?

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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #113 on: September 19, 2005, 04:25:10 pm »
The only problem with such ideas as that steering wheel one, is that it wounds pretty cool, but in practice would suck.

Seriously...

Controlling by moving a controller around freely in the air, for anything more than a very short amount of time, would get pretty darn uncomfortable.


As for MajorLag...

Take a deep breath dude. You're on the internet, and you ARE overreacting.



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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #114 on: September 19, 2005, 04:42:08 pm »
Like I said, it's just a mockup. As far as I know there is no plan at this time to produce anything of the kind. I only posted it because at first glance the controller looks like a remote, but taken in conjunction with the analog stick attachment and given the other types of controllers that could potentially plug into it, it all starts to get very interesting - at least to me.

I'm sure there are other types of controllers that could plug into it that none of us have even thought of. I can't even imagine what might be on the horizon. At this point I think we're all thinking too conventionally. This is the first console that I've been this excited about since back in the days of the 2600.

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« Reply #115 on: September 19, 2005, 04:49:07 pm »
Like I said, it's just a mockup. As far as I know there is no plan at this time to produce anything of the kind. I only posted it because at first glance the controller looks like a remote, but taken in conjunction with the analog stick attachment and given the other types of controllers that could potentially plug into it, it all starts to get very interesting - at least to me.

I'm sure there are other types of controllers that could plug into it that none of us have even thought of. I can't even imagine what might be on the horizon. At this point I think we're all thinking too conventionally. This is the first console that I've been this excited about since back in the days of the 2600.

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Yeah, I know it is just a mock-up.

It still just seems like a novelty to me. Nothing that has been said about it seems very revolutionary, or even just evolutionary, to me.

I admit that I am interested in finding out more about it, but all of the ideas, that have sprung forth thus far, just have me sitting here with a big "meh" look on my face.

I can not deny that the new Nintendo console is going to be, at the very least, interesting.


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Re: Nintendo's Revolution Controller REVEALED!!!!(UPDATED)
« Reply #116 on: September 19, 2005, 04:55:28 pm »

It's not what he is used to!

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« Reply #117 on: September 19, 2005, 05:14:14 pm »

We have not yet seen said classic controllers, thus I have no reason to consider them at this point. 
Actually, we already have for the NES. And it's even confirmed as a pack-in.



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« Reply #118 on: September 19, 2005, 09:03:37 pm »
Still, a steering wheel unit might be really inexpensive as it wouldn't have to have any electronic innards.  It could just have springs to bring it back to center and all the controlling would actually be taking place with the remote thingy.

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« Reply #119 on: September 19, 2005, 09:42:04 pm »
Yeah but what about force feed back?  It would need some sort of electronic inards to deal with that wouldn't it.

Also maybe this is just me but having all of those little add-ons to make the controller play this game and that one just seems like it would be allot of clutter to me that could easily get lost and what not.

I'm intriuged with the main controller though.  It seems like there could be allot of possibilities for more interactivity with games.  I can see maybe swinging a tennis racket or a baseball bat but what about Zelda and Mario?  Ok so you could use it as a sword to swing around but can you really imagine it being easy to keep track of pushing buttons to say move around with one hand and swing your sword around with the other?  I certinly think it would be fun to try but untill I see it in action It just sounds like it would be something hard to do.