Author Topic: Awesome Browser MMPORG : Kingdom of Loathing (Read 170374 times)

Brax · « **Reply #400 on:** February 13, 2005, 09:38:08 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on February 11, 2005, 02:40:47 pm

Cashing out clan karma before leaving the clan. Keep in mind that my karma is all a result of meat I donated, and that I also left 5 figures of karma on the table when I did leave.

Also note that Eepeep left at the same time I did and for the same reasons. He didn't take a thing and had more karma than the rest of the clan combined. He also would never have been a member if I hadn't brought him into both the game and DOTS. He IS a lurker here, an old friend of mine from offboard, but not one who reads the Everything Else forum.

When you consider those things, DOTS made tens of millions of meat from Eepeep and myself. Don't cry too hard about the 30k worth of karma I cashed in on the way out the door.

Nobody begged you to donate all that meat. YOU decided to. The fact that you wanted something back when you were "taking your ball and going home" is just lame.

DarkKobold · « **Reply #401 on:** February 13, 2005, 11:47:03 am »

Not to mention, that the items you took were worth well more than what the karma value was.

ChadTower · « **Reply #402 on:** February 13, 2005, 11:54:39 am »

That's incorrect. Eepeep, who was part of this, had karma in the 8 figures. He was the ONLY one in 8 figures. I did the manual work.

Consider it lame all you want, we left WAY MORE than we took. Blame us if you want too, but it wasn't our poor leadership that led to us leaving. Hell, we tried to help the leaders and the leaders simply aren't up to the task. That's how it works. You join a clan, you experience its ways. If you don't like its ways, you try and help to improve its ways. If you do that and you're still unsatisfied, you leave. We did all of those things.

lokki · « **Reply #403 on:** February 13, 2005, 12:30:45 pm »

Hi,
I don't necessarily disaggree with Chad. Not happy that it happened. but I understand their reasons. And I agree that eepeep was biggest contrinuter.
I kind of wish the Clan was more active. (tons of players that don't play too often).

ChadTower · « **Reply #404 on:** February 13, 2005, 01:50:53 pm »

One of the things we had been pushing for was the removal of members who no longer play. That probably accounts for as many as a third and maybe half DOTS. Those members dilute clan resources, drive up the cost of acquisitions and add nothing. I tried for a while to get a notice sent that inactive members would be removed.

I also wanted to be involved in Clan Warfare. DOTS is not active in Clan Warfare.

lokki · « **Reply #405 on:** February 13, 2005, 03:15:45 pm »

I agree on both items.
I have also asked to be involved in Clan warfare with no luck

DarkKobold · « **Reply #406 on:** February 13, 2005, 03:19:43 pm »

I think rampy and Seph need to give up clan leadership. Niether of them play the game any more. I don't want to be leader, I'll be ascending as soon as ascenion rolls around. However, Brax and Lokki are both very active, and either one would be a great leader.

Did I mention that I am the most powerful in the clan? Muwhahaha!

Brax · « **Reply #407 on:** February 13, 2005, 04:38:29 pm »

I'm tryin to catch up but it's not happenin'!

I'd just like to get back into third again. heh.

Sephroth57 · « **Reply #408 on:** February 13, 2005, 04:54:27 pm »

yeah i really dont have time for the game right now. but really once you hit 15+ theres not much left to do in the game anyway. the only point of clans is to help each other out when youre noobs which we all did. once you become rich and powerful dumping money into pointless clan wars is really all you can do. there are people with billions invested into their armys we would have no chance keeping goodies, if you noticed any time we attacked and eventually built up some goodies some large clan just comes in and owns us, theres no strategy to it at all, even less than PvP

i just dont see what another clan is going to offer thats better, the stat boosts suck anyway once youre high level, a full 15 boosts is not even a single full stat point at my level.

anyway, i dont see the problem really, eepeep had full control over everything if he needed to do all these things he couldve so i dunno. whatever

ChadTower · « **Reply #409 on:** February 13, 2005, 05:07:03 pm »

Well, since some folks agree with me, I'll mention our clan:

Zero In July

We have two members (guess who), both of us fairly high level. We are already active in clan warfare, already have a large bank of supplies, and have all of the clan amenities.

I won't ask anyone to join but we will certainly consider any applications.

Zakk · « **Reply #410 on:** February 13, 2005, 05:55:58 pm »

We didn't join the clan to "take our toys and go home" when things didn't go the way we wanted, we stuck by the clan.

lokki · « **Reply #411 on:** February 13, 2005, 06:02:36 pm »

Quote

Did I mention that I am the most powerful in the clan? Muwhahaha!

Did I mentioned I was the second most powerful in the clan? Bit curious how you went up so quickly sort of spending Millions Don't see an easy way.....
Also starting farming for rares so I don't as much points as I used to.

I'm also looking forward to ascencion. But will probably not ascend immediatly.

lokki · « **Reply #412 on:** February 13, 2005, 06:11:14 pm »

Quote from: Sephroth57 on February 13, 2005, 04:54:27 pm

yeah i really dont have time for the game right now. but really once you hit 15+ theres not much left to do in the game anyway.

Not really sure I agree plenty of stuff to do past level 15. Specially lately where there have been a lot of changes.

Sephroth57 · « **Reply #413 on:** February 13, 2005, 06:43:01 pm »

like... ?

DarkKobold · « **Reply #414 on:** February 13, 2005, 07:13:33 pm »

I am actually more interested in the depth of the economy in the game. It is amazing how crazy and interactive the economy is. Slight changes in the game result in wild buying and selling. I made almost 2 million meat when the lucky eggs were introduced. Gotta a couple cars, and a couple hermits, and people went crazy and spent like 500K to 1 mil for that crap. Re-friggin-diculous. It is fun to make "investments" to try and play the economy. If we were a more established clan, we could be the iocaine powder of the Mall (IP is famous for their pvp ability - they got a level one player onto the leader boards at spot 2, just below boozer)

Magnet_Eye · « **Reply #415 on:** February 13, 2005, 10:08:49 pm »

woa, how did i miss this thread?

I just created my character...didn't realize there was a turn limit. i only made level 2. How long do you have to wait to play again?

This is fun. reminds me of playing Wizardry on my Commodore 64 long long ago.....

Who's got tips? what next?

Sephroth57 · « **Reply #416 on:** February 13, 2005, 10:44:37 pm »

the game resets every night around 1130-12midnight EST. if you skim through this massive thread you will find all the newbie info you should need. since a lot of us started at the same time and had the same questions

ChadTower · « **Reply #417 on:** February 14, 2005, 02:29:47 pm »

Quote from: Sephroth57 on February 13, 2005, 04:54:27 pm

anyway, i dont see the problem really, eepeep had full control over everything if he needed to do all these things he couldve so i dunno. whatever

Oh, hadn't noticed this until now. This is untrue. Eepeep did NOT have full control. He had control over applications and stats. He was NOT given the type of control that would have allowed the type of changes people have been and are still asking for in DOTS. Don't make false statements about this situation. You could inadvertantly trigger an interstellar war.

Sephroth57 · « **Reply #418 on:** February 14, 2005, 02:34:36 pm »

as far as i knew, he had full control over everything. I had the same control from rampy, before i actually took over completely. but the only thing i gained i think was the ability to look at applications or whatever but i think eepeep did have that. what are these changes people are asking for? has anyone PMed me or asked me anything?? no.

the only thing i see this is over really, is you wanting to kick people out who havent played in a certain amount of time, so stat boosts cost less. seriously who gives a crap about stat boosts theyre only good for newbies. i think being a group of friends/clan members should come before saving a couple thousand meat per person we kick out who hasnt played in a while

ChadTower · « **Reply #419 on:** February 14, 2005, 02:43:42 pm »

Quote from: Sephroth57 on February 14, 2005, 02:34:36 pm

has anyone PMed me or asked me anything?? no.

the only thing i see this is over really, is you wanting to kick people out who havent played in a certain amount of time, so stat boosts cost less. seriously who gives a crap about stat boosts theyre only good for newbies. i think being a group of friends/clan members should come before saving a couple thousand meat per person we kick out who hasnt played in a while

So, you follow the statement that no one PMed you by mentioning an offline conversation we had about potential changes. That would be equivalent to a PM. Earlier in this thread Lokki mentioned having requested increased clan warfare. I know Eeepeep discussed some changes with you.

Look, we weren't happy with the clan, unhappy enough that we left. Others are expressing unhappiness in this very thread. Keep saying what you want, the truth is here in this thread.

Who said everyone here has to be in the same clan, or even friendly within the game? That doesn't sound very interesting to me.

JoyMonkey · « **Reply #420 on:** February 14, 2005, 02:46:19 pm »

Who is taking clan applications now? I've been waiting a few days now with no word.

Sephroth57 · « **Reply #421 on:** February 14, 2005, 02:53:11 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on February 14, 2005, 02:43:42 pm

Quote from: Sephroth57 on February 14, 2005, 02:34:36 pm
has anyone PMed me or asked me anything?? no.

the only thing i see this is over really, is you wanting to kick people out who havent played in a certain amount of time, so stat boosts cost less. seriously who gives a crap about stat boosts theyre only good for newbies. i think being a group of friends/clan members should come before saving a couple thousand meat per person we kick out who hasnt played in a while

So, you follow the statement that no one PMed you by mentioning an offline conversation we had about potential changes.

ChadTower · « **Reply #422 on:** February 14, 2005, 02:55:57 pm »

I remember asking you to make that post, I do not remember telling you Eepeep would take care of it. Eepeep did not have the authority to do such a thing and never did.

Listen to yourself. You sure don't sound like a leader to me.

Magnet_Eye · « **Reply #423 on:** February 14, 2005, 04:39:48 pm »

Quote from: JoyMonkey on February 14, 2005, 02:46:19 pm

Who is taking clan applications now? I've been waiting a few days now with no word.

wow, by the last few bickering posts, it sounds like it has or is falling apart.

Sephroth57 · « **Reply #424 on:** February 14, 2005, 04:44:34 pm »

this thread is now huge so im sure you didnt read it all, but it says somewhere back there if youre sending an application to post here or PM me. its really easy to miss an application and it will sit there until i happen to see it. you are now accepted

and magnet, i took a leave 3 weeks ago for personal reasons and i gave command over to eepeep, who decided to leave 2 days ago. so things are still being sorted out right now but there are no major problems really. other than the ripples chad left with his rude departure of the clan

Sephroth57 · « **Reply #425 on:** February 14, 2005, 04:46:30 pm »

btw does anyone know who ZVar or Goldburg are? they have sent applications wonderin if theyre BYOACers or friends of someone here

ChadTower · « **Reply #426 on:** February 14, 2005, 04:50:37 pm »

Quote from: Sephroth57 on February 14, 2005, 04:44:34 pm

i gave command over to eepeep, who decided to leave 2 days ago.

He did not have command of the clan. He had a couple of permissions on a limited basis.

Sephroth57 · « **Reply #427 on:** February 14, 2005, 04:55:53 pm »

will you stop being so childish about this, you make it seem like you guys were bugging me to do things and i wasnt. if eepeep had a problem why didnt he IM me? i see him on aim all the time and the only time i talked to him was when he told me he was leaving. As far as i knew he had all the permissions he needed cause nothing was said to me... furthermore i dont see how this pertains to you really if eepeep thinks im saying something thats untrue he can post here

ChadTower · « **Reply #428 on:** February 14, 2005, 04:59:37 pm »

Quote from: Sephroth57 on February 14, 2005, 04:55:53 pm

will you stop being so childish about this, you make it seem like you guys were bugging me to do things and i wasnt. if eepeep had a problem why didnt he IM me? i see him on aim all the time and the only time i talked to him was when he told me he was leaving. As far as i knew he had all the permissions he needed cause nothing was said to me... furthermore i dont see how this pertains to you really if eepeep thinks im saying something thats untrue he can post here

It's not childish to refute false claims. It is self defense.

EDIT: You are right. I have made my case, my statements are true. If you want to continue to say these things, feel free. I will no longer post on the matter.

Shape D. · « **Reply #429 on:** February 14, 2005, 05:02:22 pm »

You two sound like you need a PPVPVPDM

Thats a Pay Per View Player Versus Player Death Match.

We could make millions of meat!!!!!!!

or you guys could do this

http://slappy.notlong.com

wow second most replied on thread.

Magnet_Eye · « **Reply #430 on:** February 14, 2005, 09:19:41 pm »

Quote from: Sephroth57 on February 14, 2005, 04:44:34 pm

and magnet, i took a leave 3 weeks ago for personal reasons and i gave command over to eepeep, who decided to leave 2 days ago. so things are still being sorted out right now but there are no major problems really. other than the ripples chad left with his rude departure of the clan

Ok, well see..this is out of control. i was reading through the thread, and it said to join the yahoo group so i did.... i would like to join up. My character is called "Derf the Proctofist"

Sephroth57 · « **Reply #431 on:** February 14, 2005, 09:42:40 pm »

cool, if youre over level 3 send a clan application to defenders of the semicolon, you can do that in the clan section in town

zvar · « **Reply #432 on:** February 14, 2005, 10:43:19 pm »

Quote from: Sephroth57 on February 14, 2005, 04:46:30 pm

btw does anyone know who ZVar or Goldburg are? they have sent applications wonderin if theyre BYOACers or friends of someone here

No idea who goldburg is, but I'm here.
I didn't see your post about PM'ing you here, so I just did that.

Steven

DarkKobold · « **Reply #433 on:** February 14, 2005, 10:48:49 pm »

We have less than 100 posts to go, until we are teh #1 thread of all time. C'mon people!!!

I've gotten my question answered 2 weeks in a row on the Jick and Skully show. It is actually interesting. I enjoy it because everything they say tends to do things to the economy. They spend a little too much time bullshitting, and answering retarded questions from the same people, but it does make for interesting banter.

Magnet_Eye · « **Reply #434 on:** February 15, 2005, 05:35:13 am »

Quote from: Sephroth57 on February 14, 2005, 09:42:40 pm

cool, if youre over level 3 send a clan application to defenders of the semicolon, you can do that in the clan section in town

I went there and requested to be in the clan...now what?

Shape D. · « **Reply #435 on:** February 15, 2005, 12:32:33 pm »

Has anyone stolen toast in PVP? what do you have to try to fight for? I've been going for thier food but havent gotten crap in the last two weeks.

lokki · « **Reply #436 on:** February 15, 2005, 01:21:10 pm »

Quote

the only thing i see this is over really, is you wanting to kick people out who havent played in a certain amount of time, so stat boosts cost less. seriously who gives a crap about stat boosts theyre only good for newbies. i think being a group of friends/clan members should come before saving a couple thousand meat per person we kick out who hasnt played in a while

So if we are not buying stat boosts. and we are not going to do clan warfare. What will be using the 17 mill in there for?
Should we stop contributing meat to the clan stash?

DarkKobold · « **Reply #437 on:** February 15, 2005, 07:49:39 pm »

I manged to get toast in PVP because someone was nice enough to set up a "beat-up" doll that only had toast.

I could do that for the clan with one of my multis. He has taken a few vacations, drank a few canadians, etc. He has no papayas, and he is never intoxicated. Unfortunately I do have crap at my campground, but not a meat golem, luckily. He is level 12ish, but somewusiness potion and a crappy outfit would help.

Anyway, let me know if you want me to set something up for a day, and I'll display his name via the chat pane in the clan.

Magnet_Eye · « **Reply #438 on:** February 15, 2005, 10:09:05 pm »

ok, i am in the clan. now what? can someone guide me on some items that might be useful to me? you guys have a crapload of stuff in the stash!

guess i should goto the gym?

EDIT: I am looking through the message board there...also, where is the DoD board?

abrannan · « **Reply #439 on:** February 15, 2005, 10:29:56 pm »

Quote from: Magnet_Eye on February 15, 2005, 10:09:05 pm

ok, i am in the clan. now what? can someone guide me on some items that might be useful to me? you guys have a crapload of stuff in the stash!

guess i should goto the gym?

The gym can be a good idea on "stat days" (check the moon phases at kol.coldfront.net), but you lose out on questing to open new areas, and meat from you adventures. The must-have items (that aren't too expensive) are:

Clockwork maid (made from a meat engine and a frilly skirt) to get extra adventures each day.
Bartender in a box (make drinks without spending adventures)
Chef in a box (Cook food without spending adventures)
Upgrading your campground (Pagoda, house, maybe Evil Golden Arches)
I'd stay out of PvP for a bit

Get yourself a familiar (and it's associated +5lb item). I like the cocoabo, personally, but a leprechaun can be an asset when you're meat farming.

Go to your profession trainer and make sure to buy the necessary skills.


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