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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #40 on: January 11, 2016, 01:47:07 pm »
I'm beginning to think posters are outdated tech.  After walking down my local Walmart after xmas and seeing all those 42+ inch tvs for under 200 bucks I'm thinking, like someone else already suggested, maybe hanging a tv on it's side would be more fun.  Shoot they are getting so cheap that you could do that for side art on a cab as well. 

That'd be a project..... trying to inset a lcd on the sides of a cab without ruining the structure.

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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2016, 03:46:01 pm »
List of posters in our house (all framed)

Living Room
-Pulp Fiction
-Reservoir Dogs
-Jaws
-Raiders of the Lost Ark
-Star Wars

Bedroom
-Star Wars (rock concert)
-Boondock Saints
-Breakfast at Tiffany's
-Princess Bride

Office
-Kill Bill
-Inglorious Basterds
-Planet Terror
-Death Proof
-The Wind Rises
-Watchmen
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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2016, 08:29:05 pm »
Did you have to mention the Blue Meanie?

Took me nearly 10 years to get this out of my head:



And now it's in all your heards.  :D

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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2016, 09:48:54 pm »
^ lol, you bastard!

I've been meaning to get some more poster frames, but I keep coming across these flimsy types that look like they're about to fall apart any moment.  The one I currently have uses those "clips" in the back which will allow me to exchange any number of times without breaking, so I'm wondering where else can I look for these at?

Also what works as safe storage for non-framed posters?  I've got a bin full of old ones that were pretty dinged up and I've gotta go through the process of replacing them all.
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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2016, 10:12:31 pm »

Also what works as safe storage for non-framed posters?  I've got a bin full of old ones that were pretty dinged up and I've gotta go through the process of replacing them all.

I've used those plastic totes that are meant for wrapping paper. At my peak of storing posters there were so many I kept them in a plastic trash can.  :)

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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #45 on: January 11, 2016, 10:13:50 pm »
21st century video wall aside.... Posters store best in cardboard tubes.  I try to get the cheapest frames possible, but then again I'm really cheap.  If it isn't valuable the 10-20 dollar Walmart deals get the job done.  I don't like anything too fancy because it detracts away from the art. 

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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #46 on: January 11, 2016, 10:23:06 pm »
The last one of my college posters that is still hanging in my hallway 16 years later

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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #47 on: January 12, 2016, 12:56:21 pm »
Also what works as safe storage for non-framed posters?  I've got a bin full of old ones that were pretty dinged up and I've gotta go through the process of replacing them all.

Storing them behind other posters in the frame works great.

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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #48 on: January 15, 2016, 06:10:11 pm »
I ended up going a little different direction.  I went with 6 movie posters without words, just images.  Here is what I chose:


The total cost to print these each at 24x36 with a 4" black border so I can wrap them around the frames and acoustic material is $90 shipped.  The acoustic material is around $100 shipped and the frame material and staples will end up around $40.  To buy 24x36 movie poster acoustical treatments (bass traps) from other places is around $300-450 per piece.. I will have all 6 for about $230 total.. not a bad savings.

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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #49 on: January 15, 2016, 06:55:37 pm »
I like the "no words look". It is unique.

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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2016, 10:30:13 am »
Got all of them stretched last weekend and got the first unit completed last night.





I started by stretching the fabric over a frame made from poplar (3/4" thick, 1 1/4" wide).  Then I made a frame with Baltic birch (1/2") that has a French cleat recessed into the top (to hang it on the wall), and some corner cleats at the bottom to keep it square.  The total thickness of the frame is 3 3/8" thick.  The acoustic damping material is 2" thick (Owens Corning 703 3lb/ft^3 rigid fiberglass), so the cleats and the acoustic material took up 2.5" of that.  The frames are 3/4", so that leaves about an eighth inch plus fabric depth.  I wrapped the frame in a black cloth that is sort of like a felt or suede material (just cotton though, suede was 20 bucks per yard and I needed 8 yards).  I added a 3/8" foam weather strip to the inside edge before stretching fabric over the frames, that closes the gap and makes the poster frame inset into it tightly.  This way I can change out posters down the road if I want without even having to take the units off the walls.  I have 5 more to go..

Oh, and here is the theater (front stage) with the speakers I built.. 2 18" subs, sealed, the center, left, and right use 8" midbass drivers with compression drivers and waveguides.  I used solid cherry for the fronts of the speakers, finished naturally.  The bodies I just painted with primer then flat black and shot satin lacquer over them.. the finish is super solid and takes half the time to apply and cure as satin or semi gloss black from a can and way stronger.. of course I used an hvlp gun to shoot the lacquer, but if I do another cab, this will be the finish I use..


It isn't arcade, but the process to build uses all the same skills as a cab.  If anyone wants me to post a build thread I could do that..

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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #51 on: January 26, 2016, 10:51:31 am »
I like seeing custom built speakers.  I tried starting a thread where people would post pics of their speaker builds, but nobody but me and Ond showed up.  :)
You'd think with the similar skillsets it would be more common among BYOAC members, but not many seem interested.
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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #52 on: January 26, 2016, 11:40:57 am »
Well done dkersten.   :applaud:  Thanks for sharing.

Since you offered I wouldn't mind seeing some more details on the speaker build.

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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #53 on: January 26, 2016, 11:56:03 am »
Yeah, for as many parallels as there are to arcade builds, I am surprised there isn't more people interested in this here.  There is actually an arcade forum in the AVS forum sub menus, lol. 

I started this project 4 weeks ago wanting to upgrade my sub.. I had a $500 budget and no desire to do DIY.  I got talked into doing 2 18's with 6000 watts of power on the AVS forum and it just went all to hell from there, lol. 

My first sub enclosures were end tables:



They came out great and sounded good too, but the location in the room was horrible with massive cancellation issues.  Plus at 15 hz with thousands of watts of power, the glass would start bouncing pretty good and the lamps were jumping 2 inches off the glass.. couldn't have that, lol.  I fiddled with adding mass to the tables in the form of pavers (added 85 lbs to the already 150 lb tables) and that helped a lot, but I still didn't like the sound.  So I reconfigured my plans and went with the subs in front.

The speakers are all available as kits on diysoundgroup.com and are the result of a few years of engineering by a couple enthusiasts who turned it into a business.  For a few hundred dollars you can build a speaker that performs like a $3000 speaker, and the best part is they have ~98db sensitivity, so they are crazy loud with moderate power (any mid level AV receiver) and with a couple hundred watts they simply blow you away while not being overly fatiguing.  It's crazy, you can jack up to reference volume (which peaks out at ~122 db in my room during loud scenes) and it feels normal until you try to talk to others in the room and realize you have to shout just to be heard. 

The problem is, you can have a $500 theater or a $50,000 theater and without the right room, they will sound roughly the same.  So that is why I am doing all the acoustical treatments... my room has a crazy 25 db spike at 42 hz and voids at 23 hz in the main listening position, 80hz at the secondary listening position, and a slew of other issues all over.  I was pumping 33hz at ~2500 watts through my subs (about 120 db in a ~1300 sq foot space) and 2 feet in front of the main listening position you could stand there and not hear a thing.. it was eerily quiet in that spot.. move 3 inches in any direction and it hits you like a train, but in that spot it was completely dead.  So weird.. So I am trying to stop the standing waves and voids that are making my little room sound so bad. 

I have it dialed in pretty good even without the treatments, and we watched Scouts Guide to the Zombie Apocalypse the other night.. it was SO AWESOME!..  My old theater was actually boomier with a single 12" ported 100 watt Infinity sub, but this new system is just smooth and clear and tons of impact and headroom. 

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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #54 on: January 26, 2016, 12:31:32 pm »
my room has a crazy 25 db spike at 42 hz

lol, mine is right at 40hz. The room is about 15x12 IIRC.  You can walk the length of the room and it alternates from insane bass to anemic bass every two steps.
I just said the hell with it and placed everything including the couch in the perfect position without any regard to appearance or guest seating.  Threw down shag carpet and heavy curtains.  The listening position was in the best possible spot and I still needed like 28db of cut at 40hz on the parametric EQ. 
It sounded spectacular in the end, but made the living room useless for anything other than watching movies with only one other person.
Placement really is 90% of it.

Since buying the house from the landlord and remodeling I gave up and went back to focusing on appearance and maximizing guest seating.
I went all the way down to 2.0 bookshelf speakers, but with the boost at 40hz it sounds like there is a sub hidden somewhere, although not a great one.
When I finish the place and get new furniture, I may go the tactile transducer route. 

So everything from my original setup is going unused and could be used in a dedicated home theater in the basement, but with such a small house I hate to give up the space for what amounts to a second living room.

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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #55 on: January 26, 2016, 01:02:12 pm »
Well done dkersten.   :applaud:  Thanks for sharing.

Since you offered I wouldn't mind seeing some more details on the speaker build.
Sure thing!  So the subs are just 4 cu ft sealed enclosures... MDF boxes with bracing and then a solid cherry baffle that goes on the front:

No, those aren't cupholders inside, lol.



I milled up some cherry I had sitting around for the past 6 years (was going to be some custom bookshelves but never got around to it).  Then I glued up some panels.


I cut out the speaker hole (this is the outside of the speaker, the baffle is 1.5" thick in total) with a jig saw to get it close, then used a template to flush trim it to size.  I made the template with a simple circle jig.


Glued it all together:


After trimming up the edges with a flush trim bit then rounding them over a little (1/8" roundover to soften the edge), I taped up the cherry and shot the body with primer and then black.  I made the mistake of priming and painting ahead of time and the bearing ate the paint up a little, so I cleaned them up and finished them without sanding down and restarting.  The edge didn't come out perfect but it is black in a dark room so I didn't care much.  2 feet back they look perfect, lol


Then I shot the whole thing with satin lacquer (catalyzed so this process takes about an hour for 3 coats)


After this I filled each with 4.5 lbs of poly fill and got the speakon connectors installed and wired the subs.. they are 4 ohm each (dual 2 ohm voice coils).  At 4 ohms per channel, the iNuke nu6000dsp kicks out about 1300 watts per channel of actual RMS power with both channels being driven using a dedicated 20 amp outlet.  This fits the subs beautifully.  After break in, they sound pretty great although they lack that boominess that you get from subs that are ported and tuned to 35-45 hz.  With the DSP and a calibrated mic I was able to get them pretty darn flat in my room, so while they don't have crazy 40db peaks at 42hz like my old sub, they extend down to 10 hz at ~110 db at reference volume without sweating.  You can't hear that low, so it is just a feeling in your body at that frequency... makes for an immersive experience.  Cost on the subs is around $260 each with the amp at around $350.  With the speakon connectors and materials for the build, I was just over $1000 for the two subs and amp, if you don't count the cost of the end tables I built first, lol.

The speakers kits showed up as flat packs.  You can't beat the prices at diysoundgroup.com and the flat packs are well made.  I got crossover boards, the components for the crossovers, the mid bass speakers, compression drivers, and the waveguides for the CD's.  I assembled all the crossovers, only had to build one from scratch:


However, the baffles for the speaker kits was just MDF, and I wanted cherry.  So I pulled more cherry off the shelf and glued it up into wider boards.


Then I had to make a template for the recess for the waveguide.  This was tricky.  I started by making a template that fit the recess using 1/4" mdf.


I then used a 5/16" collar on my plunge router to make a negative of it:



I had to do some math here.  The bit was 1/4", the collar was 5/16".  That meant the new template was 5/32" plus 1/8" wider than the cutout (half the diameter of each), which is 9/32".  The recess I needed to cut was an inside cut, so I needed to have 9/32" from the outside edge of the collar to the first edge of the router bit.  That meant I needed a collar with a radius of 9/32" plus 1/8" for the bit, or in other words a collar with a total diameter of 13/16".  I didn't have one.  So I could have used an oversized bearing on a flush trim bit to shrink the template down, but I guess I wanted to be more complicated, so I dug around and found some washers that had a 5/16" inside diameter and fit snugly over the 5/16" collar.  I popped them on and tried a cut.. the recess was just a little too small because the washers were just a hair too big (3/4" diameter, about 1/16" too big).  So I put 3 washers over a 10mm bolt and bolted them tight, chucked it in my drill press and used a file to mill them down to 13/16". I then glued them to the collar:


Then I just double stick taped the template to the cherry face and lined it up and routed out the outside edge of the recess.  I used a 1/2" rabbet bit to clean up the rest and now I had a recess that matched.


I then cut out the holes close with a jig saw for the ports and speaker holes, and then double stick taped them together and used a flush trim bit to make them exact matches.  Here is the result:



I assembled the flat packs and glued the cherry baffles on.


Same process as before (only I waited to paint until after the cherry was flush sanded to the bodies).  Tape off the cherry, paint the bodies with 2 coats of primer and 2 coats of flat black.


And then shot them with 3 coats of satin lacquer.  Sanded with 0000 steel wool between coats to keep them smooth.  I use a smoothing agent in the lacquer to keep it from orange peeling too badly.  For somewhat of a rush job, the finish came out pretty nice:



The assembly was simple:  I bought a 1" foam mattress pad from Target and cut up pieces to line the inside.  Mounted the crossover with hot glue and wired it up.  I used a self centering drill bit to drill the screw holes and installed the 5 way binding posts in back. 

Finally, I built some stands.  I started with 3" sch 40 pvc.  I cut plugs with a 3 1/4" hole saw then bolted two plugs together with a 1/4" bolt and ran them in my drill over some sandpaper to get them to fit snug.  I gorilla glued them into the end (2 for the base, so 1.5" thick), then filled the PVC tube with sand.  I plugged the other end in the same way (only 1 plug) and attached a top and bottom plate made of MDF.  I sanded and primed and painted them, then shot them with the satin lacquer.  They each weigh around 30 lbs and are nice and solid.  This pic is when the lacquer was still wet


The rear surrounds are called the "Volt 8" and is an 8" midbass driver with the waveguide built into the speaker.  You screw the compression driver into the back and you have a 2 way speaker in one unit.  These are incredibly sensitive and work great as surrounds, handling tons of power if need be and working in just about any system.  Again, I ordered flat packs and made cherry fronts.  These are angled so I can mount them higher and get them further from the listeners, which is great in my room where my couch is backed up to the wall.



Here is the back wall before the posters go up.  As you can see, I still used the end tables, they just don't have subs in them any more, lol.


Once I have all the bass traps up and like the sound, I will strip the whole room down, paint the ceiling flat black, the walls a dark red or burgundy, and carpet it with charcoal black.   I think I am going to add some Buttkickers to the couch to add to the low frequency feedback.. when the 18s were to the left and right of the couch the tactile sensation was awesome.. I miss that now that the subs are up front and want some back without the hassle of adding more subs and making my neighbors hate me even more. 

Funny story, the other day I got the speakers in place and fired up Pandora to listen.  Me and the girlfriend were listening close to reference level to some AC/DC Thunderstruck and my 17 year old daughter came in and said "Can you please turn it down!  I can't hear my show upstairs!"... the irony of the kid telling the parents to turn it down... And I still had mountains of headroom left.


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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #56 on: January 26, 2016, 01:05:17 pm »
Nice work, I may have missed it, but where did you get the posters from?

Also, sorry to see Highlander lost out, my #1 movie.  got this poster back in college, can't read most of it, but was the best option I could find at the time.  Seen with my new-old toy.


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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #57 on: January 26, 2016, 01:06:51 pm »
Do you hate your neighbors?  Because pretty soon they are going to hate you. 

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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #58 on: January 26, 2016, 01:09:46 pm »
my room has a crazy 25 db spike at 42 hz

lol, mine is right at 40hz. The room is about 15x12 IIRC.  You can walk the length of the room and it alternates from insane bass to anemic bass every two steps.
I just said the hell with it and placed everything including the couch in the perfect position without any regard to appearance or guest seating.  Threw down shag carpet and heavy curtains.  The listening position was in the best possible spot and I still needed like 28db of cut at 40hz on the parametric EQ. 
It sounded spectacular in the end, but made the living room useless for anything other than watching movies with only one other person.
Placement really is 90% of it.

Since buying the house from the landlord and remodeling I gave up and went back to focusing on appearance and maximizing guest seating.
I went all the way down to 2.0 bookshelf speakers, but with the boost at 40hz it sounds like there is a sub hidden somewhere, although not a great one.
When I finish the place and get new furniture, I may go the tactile transducer route. 

So everything from my original setup is going unused and could be used in a dedicated home theater in the basement, but with such a small house I hate to give up the space for what amounts to a second living room.
I totally understand.  The reason I am doing this now is my kids are slowly leaving the nest, the wife is gone and the GF loves this stuff, and now I have rooms that go unused, so I have the room.  Thing is, I now want to either blow open some walls and add 7 more feet to the room so I can do a complete dedicated theater with seating for 6 and a 120" screen, but I will just live with it until I build a new house in 5-10 years, lol.

I have my seat dialed in nice and flat, but it doesn't get the tactile feedback I really want.  The second seat, the one my GF sits in has a spike of about 10db at 40 hz, so sitting there you feel the impact in your chest more, but that seat is missing the 80 hz so you lose the impact of gunshots...  It is a tradeoff but I hope to smooth both problems out with the traps and get it closer to the same throughout the listening positions.

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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #59 on: January 26, 2016, 01:12:01 pm »
Do you hate your neighbors?  Because pretty soon they are going to hate you.
We never talk, lol, but yeah, I am sure they will get irritated especially when their doors are rattling from the 15hz tones.  Thing is they can't really tell where it is coming from, and none of us socialize so I won't say a thing, haha.  The room has no windows and is surrounded on 2 sides by concrete and is located dead center of the house.. there is no insulation or soundproofing in the ceiling of the room, so the living room above has more bass than the theater room when it is going...

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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #60 on: January 26, 2016, 01:22:45 pm »
Nice work, I may have missed it, but where did you get the posters from?

Also, sorry to see Highlander lost out, my #1 movie.  got this poster back in college, can't read most of it, but was the best option I could find at the time.  Seen with my new-old toy.

That's a sweet poster..  The company is called spoonflower and you can have anything printed on fabric for practically nothing.. SUPER cheap.  You pay for the yardage and it isn't expensive.  I had all 6 24x36 posters (with a 2" black border on each) printed on 4 yards of "performance knit" fabric for ~$80

The performance knit has great acoustical transparency and is super white so the quality is fantastic.  It stretches about 1/4" in each direction when stretched over a frame (at 24x36), and it is tricky to get it straight.  If you have words and the such on your artwork you can get "silky faile" and it won't stretch hardly at all and will have better blacks but will still be acoustically transparent (if you want to make treatments out of it or put speakers behind it or whatever).  You can upload any art you want and you check a box that says there is no copyright issues (we won't debate what is copyrighted though, lol) and they don't have any issues with it because you are just doing it for you.  The printing is done at 150 dpi, so if you can get art that resolution it comes out the best.  I sent these in (28x40@150dpi) at 4200x6000 resolution and maxed out the quality (jpg's).  I had to compile them together as one to get them all on one print (the performance knit is about 60" wide, so they fit great 2 across) but the max file size is 50 mb, so I had to drop quality to 11 in photoshop to get all 6 to fit under 50mb.  I can't tell the difference, on the Avengers poster the quality is perfect even right up close. 

I never knew this kind of technology existed.. you can get any are, repeating, centered, mirrored, etc. on fabric and it is so cheap and the quality is amazing.  The fabric can be washed and ironed and all that with no problem.  It's unreal. 

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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #61 on: January 26, 2016, 01:27:16 pm »
That's cool, I'l have to file that reference away for future use.  Thanks!
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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #62 on: January 26, 2016, 07:36:59 pm »
Thanks for posting those build details dkersten. Your woodworking is impressive.  :cheers:

My mom gave me one of her old pairs of Cerwin Vega speakers.  Someday I'd like to build new cabinets for them similar to what you did.  I like the look of that cherry.

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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #63 on: January 28, 2016, 11:59:40 am »
First 3 bass traps are up... really makes a difference in sound quality.. I am anxious to do the other 11 treatments (3 more posters, the rest in black fabric).  Now trying to decide if dark red will still be better than a dark blue on the walls...

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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #64 on: January 28, 2016, 12:23:24 pm »
That looks sahweet!

I have 2 comments:

1. I own the same couches. Freakin' love them. So comfortable. They are like the lego of couches. Each section comes apart. I have four pieces in a row in my living room. Each piece is a power recliner.

2. Are you going hide those speaker wires?
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Re: Favorite Movie Posters
« Reply #65 on: January 28, 2016, 12:29:19 pm »
The rears just went up, and are the only wires not hidden.  I will probably go ahead and punch some holes before I start the next phase (paint and carpet). 

I am happy with my couch.. I got it from SofaMart and custom ordered the pieces.. originally I wanted to do a sectional that wrapped around the room, but I had a loveseat that is the same material and nearly identical design, so I stuck with just a sofa.  All 3 seats recline, the outers are power.  I have just enough room in the dead center to mount a big Buttkicker transducer (the LFE with about 1500 watts of power going to it, lol).