Author Topic: Star Wars 7 SPOILERS! (Read 24660 times)

harveybirdman · « **Reply #80 on:** December 29, 2015, 10:21:22 am »

Quote from: CheffoJeffo on December 29, 2015, 08:36:56 am

While I would have liked another hour of film for me to get stuff that ended up in the recycle bin, I have to recognize that it doesn't need to meet my expectations for story structure and narrative/character arc.

To my mind, the best measure of Episode VII's success is the fact that my youngest walks around the house humming the Imperial March and that my two sons spend hours together in the same room playing Battlefront. Neither had previously shown any significant interest in Star Wars despite my best efforts.

My 8 year old loved it, so I hear what you're saying Cheffo. I concede that it's a decent and entertaining movie.

wp34 · « **Reply #81 on:** December 29, 2015, 11:20:50 am »

Quote from: harveybirdman on December 29, 2015, 10:16:19 am

It's funny how things like this are much easier to overlook when ~~there is a compelling story with compelling characters~~ you are 9 years old.

FTFY

harveybirdman · « **Reply #82 on:** December 29, 2015, 11:48:03 am »

That's fair but there are plenty of things that I loved when I was 9 that don't exactly hold up when watching again years later as an adult. Here's a brief list.

Legend
Labyrinth
The Last Star Fighter
Big Trouble in Little China
Krull
Clash of the Titans (original)
The Dark Crystal
Flash Gordon
Dune
Critters
Short Circuit

ETC ETC ETC

BadMouth · « **Reply #83 on:** December 29, 2015, 11:49:58 am »

You guys take this Star Force stuff way too seriously.
I want to see a bounty hunter from the Predator race.

harveybirdman · « **Reply #84 on:** December 29, 2015, 12:03:06 pm »

Meh there's no Walking Dead to discuss until February....

And my arcading has hit the wall what with buying my wife a car... hope to get back to things in the New Year.

wp34 · « **Reply #85 on:** December 29, 2015, 12:03:40 pm »

Quote from: harveybirdman on December 29, 2015, 11:48:03 am

That's fair but there are plenty of things that I loved when I was 9 that don't exactly hold up when watching again years later as an adult. Here's a brief list.

Legend
Labyrinth
The Last Star Fighter
Big Trouble in Little China
Krull
Clash of the Titans (original)
The Dark Crystal
Flash Gordon
Dune
Critters
Short Circuit

ETC ETC ETC

I know what you mean. A few years ago I eagerly showed my youngest son The Last Starfighter and was cringing before the halfway mark. Same thing with Cloak and Dagger. I'm a lot more selective now when showing the kids my "favorites".

Quote from: CheffoJeffo on December 29, 2015, 08:36:56 am

To my mind, the best measure of Episode VII's success is the fact that my youngest walks around the house humming the Imperial March and that my two sons spend hours together in the same room playing Battlefront. Neither had previously shown any significant interest in Star Wars despite my best efforts.

My two youngest (who are in their teens) will not shut up about Star Wars after seeing EP7. They bombard me with questions and theories about Rey when I get home from work. It is awesome.

pbj · « **Reply #86 on:** December 29, 2015, 12:24:38 pm »

I think Cloak and Dagger is okay, but I'm mostly looking for San Antonio landmarks. Of particular nitpicker interest is that they use a movie set Alamo instead of the real Alamo, and there's quite a few differences in the appearance. The set has been in so many movies over the years that even I first thought, "huh, they changed it around" when I saw the real thing as an adult.

The Japanese gardens in that movie went from nice -> wasteland -> nice again. Most of the rest is the same now as it was then.

There's also a lot of people getting killed in front of the protagonist, which is really rare in a kid's movie.

yotsuya · « **Reply #87 on:** December 29, 2015, 01:57:40 pm »

I think The Last Starfighter has held up just fine.

Top Gun, though, embarrasses the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- out of me.

pbj · « **Reply #88 on:** December 29, 2015, 02:13:49 pm »

Quote from: yotsuya on December 29, 2015, 01:57:40 pm

Top Gun, though, embarrasses the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- out of me.

Meh, I spent two days riding a moped up and down palm tree lined roads in Key West and hummed Highway to the Danger Zone the entire time. Hater.

yotsuya · « **Reply #89 on:** December 29, 2015, 02:16:10 pm »

Quote from: pbj on December 29, 2015, 02:13:49 pm

Quote from: yotsuya on December 29, 2015, 01:57:40 pm
Top Gun, though, embarrasses the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- out of me.

Meh, I spent two days riding a moped up and down palm tree lined roads in Key West and hummed Highway to the Danger Zone the entire time. Hater.

Yeah, I'm gonna hate. I ---smurfing--- LOVED Top Gun as an 8th grader, but as an adult, I realized the dialogue is HORRIBLE. Ugh. I'll just watch the Kenny Loggins video if I ever need a fix.

wp34 · « **Reply #90 on:** December 29, 2015, 02:24:32 pm »

Quote from: yotsuya on December 29, 2015, 01:57:40 pm

I think The Last Starfighter has held up just fine.

Top Gun, though, embarrasses the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- out of me.

Yeah Top Gun is another one I tried with my youngest. Wow was it bad. Really bad. The dialog, the lack of story, Kelly McGillis...all of it. The soundtrack is still good though.

Conversely I watched Risky Business recently and it holds up very well.

wp34 · « **Reply #91 on:** December 29, 2015, 02:25:30 pm »

Quote from: pbj on December 29, 2015, 12:24:38 pm

There's also a lot of people getting killed in front of the protagonist, which is really rare in a kid's movie.

Great point.

harveybirdman · « **Reply #92 on:** December 29, 2015, 02:31:50 pm »

Who else is imagining pbj scooting around Key West going all Sterling Archer?

wp34 · « **Reply #93 on:** December 29, 2015, 02:46:07 pm »

Quote from: pbj on December 29, 2015, 02:13:49 pm

Quote from: yotsuya on December 29, 2015, 01:57:40 pm
Top Gun, though, embarrasses the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- out of me.

Meh, I spent two days riding a moped up and down palm tree lined roads in Key West and hummed Highway to the Danger Zone the entire time. Hater.

Last week?

pbj · « **Reply #94 on:** December 29, 2015, 05:31:45 pm »

Yes, last week. The last time I watched Top Gun, I remembered thinking, "there sure are a lot of good looking guys with their shirts off in this movie."

The chick from Top Gun owns a restaurant in Key West. I zoomed past it a few times but didn't spot any lesbian manatees.

flylear45 · « **Reply #95 on:** December 29, 2015, 06:17:52 pm »

I had fun with it. It was a decent movie for what it was, which is a throwback action thriller. To me the star of the show was the Millenium Falcon and I honestly got choked up seeing it back in the movie.

I love sappy melodrama sci-fi.

Why did you leave me, Firefly? WHY?

Joss Whedon needs to write and direct the next one.

flylear45 · « **Reply #96 on:** December 29, 2015, 06:24:00 pm »

As to why they didn't blow up the planet in their way. Uhhhh........ they had to suck up a star to do it. They only had one to use.

Not saying it was a pure plot..... it wasn't. It was fantasy and should be treated as such.

No interesting/entertaining movie can hold to true or even believable science IMHO.

Locke141 · « **Reply #97 on:** December 29, 2015, 10:14:08 pm »

Quote from: harveybirdman on December 29, 2015, 10:16:19 am

With all due respect Locke, most of those plot holes are created by the prequels which are rubbish and we can't fault the OT for their idiocy.

How about all lucks training took place in a few HR or the equivalent span of weekend at most. Thats total between Yoda and Obi wan.

Quote from: flylear45 on December 29, 2015, 06:24:00 pm

As to why they didn't blow up the planet in their way. Uhhhh........ they had to suck up a star to do it. They only had one to use.

Not saying it was a pure plot..... it wasn't. It was fantasy and should be treated as such.

No interesting/entertaining movie can hold to true or even believable science IMHO.

The Death's star did not suck up stars, it looked like it used some kind of nuclear reaction. But yes, you need to suspend you disbelief with this stuff.

harveybirdman · « **Reply #98 on:** December 29, 2015, 10:31:23 pm »

The time line isn't specified but it's a decent point. Also it's pretty well established in the Star Wars universe that Force Sensitives can do some pretty amazing feats. Anakin, Ezra Bridger, Luke, Ashoka... all were pretty amazing before much if not any training.

Therefore I don't have a huge problem with Reys quick mastery, the jedi mind trick was a bit much but it's not a cardinal sin. Plus what's not to like about her.

I'm more itratated with the feminist agenda with her. I didn't have any trouble AT ALL with a female Jedi main character. There is a long established history of lady jedi. Just seemed like they beat you over the head with she can do anything at the expense of taking much away from Finn's character.

dkersten · « **Reply #99 on:** December 30, 2015, 01:41:08 am »

Quote from: harveybirdman on December 29, 2015, 10:31:23 pm

The time line isn't specified but it's a decent point. Also it's pretty well established in the Star Wars universe that Force Sensitives can do some pretty amazing feats. Anakin, Ezra Bridger, Luke, Ashoka... all were pretty amazing before much if not any training.

Therefore I don't have a huge problem with Reys quick mastery, the jedi mind trick was a bit much but it's not a cardinal sin.

Don't forget too that over and over they kept marveling at how "lucky" they were getting when she did things.. Clearly she was using the force all along, so it wasn't like she was a newb, just that she didn't realize she was using it.

pbj · « **Reply #100 on:** December 30, 2015, 10:20:15 am »

All that feminist agenda yet this thing doesn't pass the Bechdel test? Please.

dgame · « **Reply #101 on:** December 30, 2015, 02:22:49 pm »

Quote

The last sentence of the movie is "May the Force be with you," said by Leia to Rey. If that's the case, then it does absolutely pass the Bechdel Test...

http://www.syracuse.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2015/12/star_wars_the_force_awakens_spoilers_7_major_plot_points_in_episode_vii.html

pbj · « **Reply #102 on:** December 30, 2015, 02:38:28 pm »

Quote from: dgame on December 30, 2015, 02:22:49 pm

Quote
The last sentence of the movie is "May the Force be with you," said by Leia to Rey. If that's the case, then it does absolutely pass the Bechdel Test...
http://www.syracuse.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2015/12/star_wars_the_force_awakens_spoilers_7_major_plot_points_in_episode_vii.html

lol, except that their conversation is about Luke. These bloggers keep trying but it didn't happen in this movie.

harveybirdman · « **Reply #103 on:** December 30, 2015, 02:54:47 pm »

Maz Kaneda is a woman.

But seriously Jim are you going to pretend that as an educated individual you noticed absolutely nothing thematically about refusing Finn's hand not once bit twice, performing everything succussfully that Finn fails at, and initially refusing the blaster from Han because she doesn't need his assistance or his job for that matter?

pbj · « **Reply #104 on:** December 30, 2015, 03:02:32 pm »

Maz Kanata is a CGI alien. Keep swinging.*

The rest of that stuff? Meh. She's had to fend for herself on a desert planet. Not everyone has a cushy life of gulping down power converters at Toshi station.

*(Edit: and do they talk about anything other than Luke? Not that I recall)

wp34 · « **Reply #105 on:** December 30, 2015, 03:13:18 pm »

Quote from: pbj on December 30, 2015, 03:02:32 pm

The rest of that stuff? Meh. She's had to fend for herself on a desert planet. Not everyone has a cushy life of gulping down power converters at Toshi station.

Hopefully you typed that with a high-pitched whine in your voice.

harveybirdman · « **Reply #106 on:** December 30, 2015, 03:33:16 pm »

I liked her, understood she was special, and didn't need to be bludgeoned with the fact that she's a capable heroine.

Plus ya know she's hot....

Generic Eric · « **Reply #107 on:** December 30, 2015, 05:23:21 pm »

guys^{^guyS

Can we start talking about predictions for VIII?

Han Solo becomes Spectre Solo and helps Kylo Ren be the Ben he should have.}

BadMouth · « **Reply #108 on:** December 30, 2015, 10:00:39 pm »

Quote from: Generic Eric on December 30, 2015, 05:23:21 pm

guys^{^guyS

Can we start talking about predictions for VIII?

Han Solo becomes Spectre Solo and helps Kylo Ren be the Ben he should have.}

Harrison Ford agreed to reprise his role as long as he only had to do one movie. He won't be back.

I hear WALL-E turns up as a droid in the next one.

BadMouth · « **Reply #109 on:** December 30, 2015, 10:03:20 pm »

In a reversal of the Disney standard, Kylo Ren will have a dead father and distant mother instead of a dead mother and a distant father.

...oh wait, they are probably keeping the Disney standard with Rey.

dkersten · « **Reply #110 on:** December 31, 2015, 03:19:36 am »

Quote from: BadMouth on December 30, 2015, 10:00:39 pm

Harrison Ford agreed to reprise his role as long as he only had to do one movie. He won't be back.

Except it is all over the news that he is signed up for the next one.. might be a cameo, but he is definitely in it.

Also, Lucas thinks he could have done way better, wants to focus now on making movies that bring back emotion... LOL!!!!

Seriously, you can't make this stuff up....
http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/george-lucas-says-he-sold-%e2%80%98star-wars%e2%80%99-to-%e2%80%98white-slavers%e2%80%99/ar-BBo3Y9h?ocid=spartanntp

harveybirdman · « **Reply #111 on:** December 31, 2015, 10:17:58 am »

Seriously ---fudgesicle--- George Lucas, not only did he ruin Star Wars with the horrible prequels and the special editions. He sold his series to people who seem to be only interested in exploiting it for all its worth. Time will tell if they manage a story worthy of Star Wars.

Thank goodness for the work on the Despecialized Trilogy.

pbj · « **Reply #112 on:** December 31, 2015, 10:32:11 am »

Quote from: dkersten on December 31, 2015, 03:19:36 am

Quote from: BadMouth on December 30, 2015, 10:00:39 pm
Harrison Ford agreed to reprise his role as long as he only had to do one movie. He won't be back.
Except it is all over the news that he is signed up for the next one.. might be a cameo, but he is definitely in it.

Sweet, thanks. Time to ignore this thread. :-P

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #113 on:** December 31, 2015, 10:58:44 am »

/unsubscribe

drventure · « **Reply #114 on:** December 31, 2015, 11:37:44 am »

Has anyone realized that, since Star Wars is now a Disney property, that officially makes Leia a "Disney Princess"?

yotsuya · « **Reply #115 on:** December 31, 2015, 12:52:07 pm »

The worst thing that ever happened to George Lucas the Filmmaker was that he made Star Wars.

wp34 · « **Reply #116 on:** December 31, 2015, 03:38:09 pm »

George sees to agree with some of you that EP7 should not have called back so much to EP4.

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/george-lucas-says-he-sold-star-wars-to-white-slavers-w160614

“They wanted to do a retro movie,” Lucas said. “I don’t like that. Every movie I work very hard to make them completely different, with different planets, with different spaceships — make it new.”

yotsuya · « **Reply #117 on:** December 31, 2015, 06:19:58 pm »

Just saw it. You fuckos are nuts. It was perfectly fine.

wp34 · « **Reply #118 on:** December 31, 2015, 06:45:18 pm »

Quote from: yotsuya on December 31, 2015, 06:19:58 pm

Just saw it. You fuckos are nuts. It was perfectly fine.

Quoted for truth.

harveybirdman · « **Reply #119 on:** December 31, 2015, 09:45:53 pm »

Your dead 2 me...

Lol


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