BYOAC's talking dead: The Walking Dead Season 4 (Second half)

[DaOld Man]

 

[shponglefan]

I'm really intrigued where this season is going to go; and especially how they will work Tyreese into the storylines now they (finally) brought that character on board.

I also hope they leave the Governor out of it, at least this season.  Bring him back for Season 5.

[boomerbrian]

This season will be make or break for me. Got turned off with the Governor plot line. Plus I am still in mourning that Breaking Bad ended.

[Louis Tully]

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[macattack]

Watching it now, trying figure out how the old boy got his leg back or ?


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[DaOld Man]

I was wondering that too. However he was walking with a limp so it must be a prosthetic.
Looks like they would have explained that.

[macattack]

I was wondering that too. However he was walking with a limp so it must be a prosthetic.
Looks like they would have explained that.

Yup, you see it about 10 minutes after my post


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[DaOld Man]

Yep, they pointed it out in "Talking Dead" don't know how I missed it.
Encore coming on now.

[boomerbrian]

Wasn't very impressed with the opening episode. Did not really understand the story line with Rick and the crazy lady. Just seemed like a bunch of filler.

Yeah...They showed his fake leg twice. Both times when he was talking with Rick. He actually had it off at the end when he was talking to him.

[DaOld Man]

Watching the encore now. Yeah, I was wondering about the part with the weird chick.
I hope it hasn't come to doing things like this.

[Rick]

Soooooo... does anyone think the pig sickness and the kid's death are somehow related?

[boomerbrian]

Theories
Swine Flu or the food is contaminated because they planted their garden where they buried zombies which is why is showed Rick unearth the gun?

[Alistair Keith]

I'm like a couple of seasons behind. Is it worth watching still?

[Rick]

Theories

I think you're right. There's a lot of hints to disease.

We keep focusing on the blind zombie. Reddit thinks this has something to do with the Ebola virus or similar.
The sick pig and the kid thanking Daryl for the deer. Animal sickness is always a possibility.
Daryl licking his fingers before the handshake, and the multiple focus on the water supply (i.e. dead kid showering at the end.)
The alcoholic guy commenting on how he watched an outbreak of disease.

[SNAAKE]

I just wanna say that homeland is terrible

[shponglefan]

Wasn't very impressed with the opening episode. Did not really understand the story line with Rick and the crazy lady. Just seemed like a bunch of filler.

Given that Rick was on the verge of going to crazy land last season, they seemed to be juxtaposing what he could have become with what he is now.  Basically just reminding the audience that he chose the sane path; I think it also shows he's not quite as jaded as he was previously, but still cautious.

[Vigo]

I think you are spot on, shponglefan, but I kinda wish it was a better done scene. I don't think even "crazy rick" could identify with this lady. She goes from desperate and sane, then randomly flips and trys to stab rick. Don't know why. Then stabs herself. Then goes to start a conversation with rick in the middle of her death scene. I get she is crazy, but she was just this weird random kind a crazy that makes it hard to group her with rick.

[Mikezilla]

See, I was impressed with it, I enjoyed it, for multiple reasons. Zombies, lots of Zombie action. No Lori. No Andrea. And no Governor. Shponglefan and Vigo hit the nail on the head. I think it just showed how far the lady had fallen, and that Rick was on that path. He saw visions of lori, and was "talking" to her on an imaginary phone etc.

Glenn is starting to get on my nerves though, he is kind of like the new Lori. It also bugged me that they didnt bring the sick pig to the attention of the FARM VETERINARIAN. Cmon, if the pig was sick, shouldnt a vet look at the damn thing? That kid got instantly sick, so maybe its a combination of things. I thought they were burning the zombies as opposed to burying them.

Also Tyrese is a sissy, sometimes I wish that I didnt read the comics.

Excited its back though! Greg Nicotero is a certifiable genius. 

[shponglefan]

Also Tyrese is a sissy, sometimes I wish that I didnt read the comics.

I keep hoping they are just setting things up to turn him into a total badass later (i.e. "What kept you?"  ).  Because otherwise, it seems odd to name him after the comic character, but have him be someone else entirely.

[jdbailey1206]

Mike-  I agree.  Usually if something is wrong and I know I have someone that close that can fix it I usually think to myself "Hey.  Maybe so and so can help me figure this out."  But the whole episode was geared to show how Rick is changing from what he was. 

• He is the only one who is seen farming.  10+ people and he's the only one who knows what a hoe is.  (huh huh.  Hoe.)
• He doesn't go out on 'missions'
• He doesn't kill the woman in the woods.  Old Rick would have drawn on her extremely fast.
• He tosses the gun he finds in the dirt.  This was a metaphor for Rick throwing away his old ways.

I could see how this episode would turn a lot of people sour.  But it was just to show how things had changed for everyone in the past months.  The pig intrigues me though.  Hopefully if they do a Contagion idea and show how animals were the cause they don't make it too cheesy.  Scott Gimple said on the Talking Dead that this episode was tame compared to the rest of the season and it really ramps up.  Here's to hoping.

[Ginsu Victim]

Greg Nicotero is a certifiable genius.

Hell yeah. The students (KNB) have surpassed the master (Savini).

[Vigo]

Glenn is starting to get on my nerves though, he is kind of like the new Lori.

I do see what you are getting at with Glenn. I hope they don't take him down the Lori path of pure "Please shoot this character in the face" aggravation.... 

It also bugged me that they didnt bring the sick pig to the attention of the FARM VETERINARIAN.

Best observation of the week.

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2nd best observation of the week. They picked up a bus of people who don't do anything but stab fence zombies, I guess. Makes me glad lil' Harry Potter keeled over in the shower at the end of the episode.

[Mikezilla]

Man its good to be back talking to people actually worth talking to. 

Yeah Vigo, lets hope that Glenn doesnt go down that path of "man when is he going to DIE". 

Also Tyrese is a sissy, sometimes I wish that I didnt read the comics.

I keep hoping they are just setting things up to turn him into a total badass later (i.e. "What kept you?"  ).  Because otherwise, it seems odd to name him after the comic character, but have him be someone else entirely.

See, I WANT to think that, but after the pathetic "I dont want to do this, I dont want to do that, I just want to see you" whiny BS makes me think there is no way, that soft pillowy, marhmallow of a man can be the carved out of rock, tough as nails badass in the comics. Heres hoping though. 

[Vigo]

I have a gut feeling they are trying to soften up everybody right now. They have Darryl getting all chatty and has his little fan club. They have Tyrese getting blubbery, they have Rick a gardening pacifist and Glen couldn't even manage one zombie in the dept store.

Other than Michonne, sadly, Carol right now is looking the most badass when she whipped out knives to teach the kids combat skills. Even then, they made a point to show that self defense was not being taught openly. It leads me to believe they are trying show the group is growing soft so they will get blindsided by the time the next big threat comes along.

[Drnick]

I wholeheartedly agree with the above 

[yotsuya]

Never seen an episode.

[Rick]

Never seen an episode.

It's good.

[yotsuya]

Enh.... I just don't get why zombies turn guys into their female/vampire-loving counterparts. 

[drventure]

Easy

I just don't get why zombies turn guys into their female/vampire-loving counterparts.

Easy. Piles more gore!

[shponglefan]

Other than Michonne, sadly, Carol right now is looking the most badass when she whipped out knives to teach the kids combat skills.

Thinking back to Season 1, I never would have thought "Carol" and "badass" would be used in the same sentence. 

[Mikezilla]

Vigo youre probably right. I dont know why they think they can just "relax" though, the Governor is still out there, along with hordes of the undead.

YOTSUYA! I am very disappointed in you young man. 

[DaOld Man]

Ok, the boar in the woods, the animal not the crazy lady, wasn't dead, but it acted like it was sick. At first I thought that it was caught in a snare, but it wasn't moving much at all, just grunting. I wonder if it was sick, the same sickness the pig in the camp has? Could it be a sickness starting in the animals? I have always wondered why the virus turns humans into zombies but don't seem to have any effect what so ever on any animals. Maybe the virus is mutating?

[jdbailey1206]

Some studies have shown that our genetic makeup is comparable to a pigs.  They have found that "pigs suffer from the same genetic and protein malfunctions that account for many human diseases, including Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s and obesity."  (Delicious, Delicious obesity.)  I believe the writers are trying to explain in the Walking Dead universe how the disease has evolved.  I find this interesting.  To be honest how many seasons can you spend showing someone being whiny along with the group surviving baddies and zombies.  It gets old.  We as an audience need something to relate to.  As much as everyone here runs into zombies on a daily basis.   

I like the fact too how quickly it has taken over the colony suggesting until they find a complete cure for the issue at hand (zombie infection) the Walking Dead universe will never be back to what it used to be.  I, for one, am looking forward to this season. 

[Howard_Casto]

Sorry guys but this episode was great.  An interesting (albeit extremely predictable) conversation with a crazy lady.  Hershel is now 50% less gimpy, which means he isn't automatically zombie chow, and I'm just going to call it... Zombie pigs.  Even though it was kind of silly, the raining zombie sequence was pretty cool and unlike the prison break-in last season, it was theoretically possible. 

No plot holes, no bad acting, no stupid "out of character" characterizations, a very solid episode. 

Don't both with spoiler tags guys... in previous TWD threads the rule has always been you watch the show without missing an episode and you don't visit the thread until after you are caught up. 

[Rick]

Don't bother with spoiler tags guys... in previous TWD threads the rule has always been you watch the show without missing an episode and you don't visit the thread until after you are caught up.

If that's status quo then people should try and put that in their first post.

[boomerbrian]

No plot holes, no bad acting, no stupid "out of character" characterizations, a very solid episode. 

I understand why they showed Rick and the crazy lady but I found her character unbelievable and wasn't buying that Rick couldn't figure out her game based on her behavior. Found myself laughing when she stabbed herself. Very campy.

[Louis Tully]

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[DaOld Man]

Bump.

New episode tonight.
At work, bets are that the animals are getting a mutated form of the virus. If it is, things could get very interesting.
How would you run from a zombie bird?

[Rick]

How would you run from a zombie bird?

You don't run. You fly.

[Howard_Casto]

Heh, I was kidding about the whole zombie pigs thing. 

This is just a typical side effect of a bunch of people living in a confined space... disease.  Us humans are filthy, filthy, creatures and the only thing that keeps us from killing ourselves just by living with each other are modern conveniences  like soap, working plumbing, medical equipment/medicines  and the national center for disease control.  So the people getting sick was a predictable development, but predictable in a good way.  If disease wasn't covered  this season considering their living conditions, you would have heard me complaining about it already. 

The reason the pigs were getting sick is the fact that pigs are so similar to us.

One thing I'm disappointed in is the fact that it's just episode 2 and they are already introducing a "conspiracy secret character" plot line.  We don't need that.  Problems with keeping the zombies off the fence and this upcoming pandemic are more than enough to keep the show interesting and I can't think of any logical reason why someone inside the camp would want to sabotage themselves.