Duke Nukem Forever video (NSFW language)

[Hoopz]

It'd be nice if TakeTwo or whoever owns 3D Realms now would finish and release this game.

[SNAAKE]

got a headace from watching that video. I think I need a nap..

[Malenko]

the guy trying to do duke's voice is trying too hard, sounds horrible. I do a better impression.

[AtomSmasher]

the guy trying to do duke's voice is trying too hard, sounds horrible. I do a better impression.

I remember reading that the footage from that video is actual gameplay footage leaked from the former 3D Realms, but all of the audio was faked and not from the game.

[Hoopz]

Duke Nukem Forever to be released May 3rd, pigs begin to fly

Today appears to be a snowy day in hell. On the same morning that European streaming music service Spotify has finally broken a years-long stalemate with the big music labels and defied everyone’s expectations by signing a real deal with a major music label, Duke Nukem Forever — the most famous piece of vaporware software in history — has finally gotten a release date that isn’t “when it’s done.”

“Somehow the guys at Game Informer magazine discovered Duke Nukem Forever’s launch date before I did,” joked Randy Pitchford, president of Gearbox Software and executive producer of Duke Nukem Forever. “But I cannot imagine any better video game news source team than Game Informer to reveal the moment of truth for the most inconceivable, incorrigible and inspiring turn around story in the history of the video game industry – the coming of Duke Nukem Forever on May 3, 2011.”

That’s only about three months from now, although the rest of the world will have to wait until May 6th.

Needless to say, 2K Games is thrilled, since they’ve been trying to get this game out for over a decade.

“The moment fans all over the world have been waiting for is almost here,” says Christoph Hartmann, president of 2K. “May 3, 2011 marks Duke’s return as he unleashes his brash and brutally honest wit on the world. His return is going to be epic and one that will make video gaming history!”

There’s a lot of words to describe Duke — a video game character known for using spurting neck as toilets and shaking dollar bills at every stripper who jiggles by — but I’m not sure “wit” is one of them, Christoph.

Either way, mark the date: according to the Mayan prophecies, May 3rd, 2011 is the date of the end times. Duke Nukem Forever is going gold.

[opt2not]

Here's the newest video trailer released today:


I think it looks pretty good...and the one liners are pretty hilarious.

[Ginsu Victim]

Saw this earlier and I CAN'T ---smurfing--- WAIT! It looks great.

[SavannahLion]

Holy


---smurfing---


---steaming pile of meadow muffin---


Is this real?!?

I've been looking forward to this game since I have no clue when. It had better be real.

[Ginsu Victim]

Yeah it's real. The guys who made Borderlands did it.

[SavannahLion]

Yeah it's real. The guys who made Borderlands did it.

And then God schedules the Second Coming on May 7, 2011.

[Hoopz]

Yeah it's real. The guys who made Borderlands did it.

And then God schedules the Second Coming on May 7, 2011.

If you're scheduling a sick day for work, plan for the 3rd not the 7th....   

[Malenko]

it actually looks pretty good. Seems like the humor is there too.


Hmmmm, dont have time to play with myself.

[Hoopz]

it actually looks pretty good. Seems like the humor is there too.


Hmmmm, dont have time to play with myself.

I would say that sounds like a customer title but the last time I said that, Saint showed his sense of humor.

[Malenko]

I would say that sounds like a customer title but the last time I said that, Saint showed his sense of humor.

You're a trouble maker (and an inspiration for birth control!)

srsly though, sooooo many great one liners in that game.

[Hoopz]

srsly though, sooooo many great one liners in that game.

Duke Nukem 3D was awesome because of Duke.  He had more personality than all other FPS put together.  The jet pack, shrinker, etc made deathmatch much different than Quake too.

[SavannahLion]

Yeah it's real. The guys who made Borderlands did it.

And then God schedules the Second Coming on May 7, 2011.

If you're scheduling a sick day for work, plan for the 3rd not the 7th....   

I'm pre-ordering it. Maybe ill get it thes time

[Howard_Casto]

I would say that sounds like a customer title but the last time I said that, Saint showed his sense of humor.

You're a trouble maker (and an inspiration for birth control!)

srsly though, sooooo many great one liners in that game.

Personally I never found Duke to be funny or even clever.  If ripping-off on liners of far more personable and memorable characters several years after the fact and spewing them out at random is considered funny then I'm the frikkin funniest guy I know.  I always saw duke as a lame doom with strippers.  Because of the strippers and the fact that most doom fans were teenagers... duke sold well.   

[opt2not]

Personally I never found Duke to be funny or even clever.  If ripping-off on liners of far more personable and memorable characters several years after the fact and spewing them out at random is considered funny then I'm the frikkin funniest guy I know.  I always saw duke as a lame doom with strippers.  Because of the strippers and the fact that most doom fans were teenagers... duke sold well.   

I've always liked Duke 3D for it's weapons, and the ability to look up and shoot -- unlike Doom. This is where I feel it was a step ahead in the deathmatch dept. Also, the option of co-operative play through the campaign was also really well done for it's time (with the ability to save progress!). Top that off with a cool visual level editor, and you've got a lot of replay value.

Yeah, he's not funny nor clever, and definitely not a replacement for Ash...but its pretty cool when you hear him say "hail to the king baby" after pipe-bombing 8+ enemies at once.

I'm glad they kept that cheesy macho-testosterone vibe of the original, just like 80's action movies, it's a guilty pleasure to enjoy for me

[Malenko]

Personally I never found Duke to be funny or even clever.

x 2

-1

What are you? Some kind of bottom feeding scum sucking algae eater?

[NiN^_^NiN]

I love in the video the monsters there naked and he still goes "id still hit it" dukes back baby

I use to play duke when he was just a 2d platformer then when duke 3d came along whoa baby it changed everything totally different from doom even tho the concepts are kinda the same

Shame Rise of the Triad wasnt as popular that weapons in the game like the hand of god where fantastic

Now i feel like playing duke 3d on the big screen

[WhereEaglesDare]

OH MAN I totally forgot about RotT.  That game was awesome!  I was up late playing it all the time about 15 years ago.

Now that is a game that needs a Redux!

[RayB]

For the record, the developers just finished off what 3D Realms had already done (that they were forced to hand over to the publisher).

It was in a complete enough state for years, but 3D Realms' Broussard was too paranoid that it wasn't good enough.

Good read here: http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/12/fail_duke_nukem/all/1

[SavannahLion]

Because of the strippers and the fact that most doom fans were teenagers... duke sold well.   

Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- dude, if you got your jacks off looking at the strippers in DN3D then you were obviously wearing your grandmothers prescription eye glasses by mistake. There was far better looking gif porn on usenet or the BBs at the time.

Most of my friends and I played games like DN3D and RotT because the requirements could be run on all of our PCs. (I think RotT had some sort of unique licensing that allowed more than one installation without resorting to warez but I can't quite recall). In a nut shell, not all of us (at the time) could afford to compete fairly in GLQuake and those who could run GLQuake didn't want to step down to Quake to be on equal footings with those on less capable systems. Hell, I didn't even get my first GL capable card until Unreal was released in '98. By then, I could afford to splurge for two Voodoo2 cards.

As for the one liners... well, they're so cheesy they're pretty cool.

[RayB]

Let's give credit where credit is due. When Duke came out, they did several "WOW" things in the game that the previous king of FPS's (Doom) did not. It was "real" 3D in that you could have areas above other areas (Doom was 2.5D in that respect). I loved that there were tons of things to interact with in the world. No other game before it could let you demolish an entire building, trigger avalanches, working movie theatre, etc... Sure they were "scripted" events you could only activate where it was designed to, but it did a lot for the enjoyment and story, and no FPS did it before Duke.  It was also the first FPS I played that had working mirrors! And entering a bathroom, opening a door and finding a monster sitting on the john... that was hilarious! All this for a "shareware" price tag too.

[SavannahLion]

Oh yeah. The working mirrors. There aren't a whole lot of FPS games that use mirrors that I can recall. Even the FPS games that faked mirrors had to make do with the limitations on the engine.

Remember how many user maps ---fouled up beyond all recognition--- up the mirror maps? It's like those morons only read half the manual the decided to plop the mirror smack dab in the middle a half finished map.

When I tore up my old desk three years ago I found a bunch of DN3D BUILD notes under about ten years worth of notes and phone numbers. It was kind of funny to find the conversion numbers.

[Paladin]

Anyone play Shadow Warrior?

'Who want's some Wang?"

[SavannahLion]

Anyone play Shadow Warrior?

'Who want's some Wang?"

LOL, totally forgot about that game. No, I never played it. Can't remember why though. Wasn't there some controversy surrounding the game release or some such?

Checked the Wikipedia and the damn thing is sorely out of date.

The third one, Deadly Kiss from SillySoft remains unreleased, but screenshots were released on January, 1998.[10] Unlike other add-ons, the release of Deadly Kiss may be completely canceled.

Yeah... I'd say so. 

The Linux port has my attention though. I'll have to check into that.

[NiN^_^NiN]

Anyone play Shadow Warrior?

'Who want's some Wang?"

You want to wash wang? or your want to watch wang wash wang?

LOL i loved that game it was an asian themed duke (used the same engine)

It had some good one liners in that too

As for controversy it was the stereotyping of Asians in the game

Now for Commander Keen 3d to be released lol

[Mikezilla]

I would say that sounds like a customer title but the last time I said that, Saint showed his sense of humor.

You're a trouble maker (and an inspiration for birth control!)

srsly though, sooooo many great one liners in that game.

Personally I never found Duke to be funny or even clever.  If ripping-off on liners of far more personable and memorable characters several years after the fact and spewing them out at random is considered funny then I'm the frikkin funniest guy I know.  I always saw duke as a lame doom with strippers.  Because of the strippers and the fact that most doom fans were teenagers... duke sold well.   

Do you like anything that ISNT Nintendo related?! Jesus. Duke was great because it was TRYING to be cheesy and it pulled it off. The developers even said that he was a combo of John Wayne, Clist Eastwood, and Arnold. The jetpack was great, like hoopz mentioned, it made deathmatch not so boring or repetitive. I used to like setting traps with the pipebombs. The whole dynamic was great. I cant wait for this to come out, the trailer had me sold. Duke sold well because it was an awesome game. It had a bunch of pop culture references too. My favorite was when you had to crawl in the conveyor and you saw the terminator skeleton and duke was like "whoa terminated". Doom is so damn overrated anyway. Did the dude from doom even have a name?

[opt2not]

Did the dude from doom even have a name?

The Rock? 

[Mikezilla]

Haha that WAS funny! 

[jipp]

yeah, i liked duke for the pure cheese.  will def be getting this.  even tho for some reason i thought it was released and just forgot about it. 

chris.

[Hoopz]

Slight delay in it's availability.  

The release date was changed from May 3 (May 6 for outside the U.S.) to June 14 for the States and June 10 (for the international release).

[newmanfamilyvlogs]

Slight delay in it's availability.  

The release date was changed from May 3 (May 6 for outside the U.S.) to June 14 for the States and June 10 (for the international release).

That's some epic douchebaggery right there. So not only is it slipped, but there will be a 100% piracy rate in the US for 4 days? What is this I don't even

[Mikezilla]

Slight delay in it's availability.  

The release date was changed from May 3 (May 6 for outside the U.S.) to June 14 for the States and June 10 (for the international release).

That's some epic douchebaggery right there. So not only is it slipped, but there will be a 100% piracy rate in the US for 4 days? What is this I don't even

---goshdarn--- it. Oh well, waited over a decade, I guess another month wont matter.

[NiN^_^NiN]

Whats interesting is now US gets it after the international release where US were the first to get it.

[Howard_Casto]

I would say that sounds like a customer title but the last time I said that, Saint showed his sense of humor.

You're a trouble maker (and an inspiration for birth control!)

srsly though, sooooo many great one liners in that game.

Personally I never found Duke to be funny or even clever.  If ripping-off on liners of far more personable and memorable characters several years after the fact and spewing them out at random is considered funny then I'm the frikkin funniest guy I know.  I always saw duke as a lame doom with strippers.  Because of the strippers and the fact that most doom fans were teenagers... duke sold well.   

Do you like anything that ISNT Nintendo related?! Jesus. Duke was great because it was TRYING to be cheesy and it pulled it off. The developers even said that he was a combo of John Wayne, Clist Eastwood, and Arnold. The jetpack was great, like hoopz mentioned, it made deathmatch not so boring or repetitive. I used to like setting traps with the pipebombs. The whole dynamic was great. I cant wait for this to come out, the trailer had me sold. Duke sold well because it was an awesome game. It had a bunch of pop culture references too. My favorite was when you had to crawl in the conveyor and you saw the terminator skeleton and duke was like "whoa terminated". Doom is so damn overrated anyway. Did the dude from doom even have a name?

I didn't even see this. 

50% of the games I own are on the 360 and not the wii.  I like the 360. I like many games on the 360.  I like many pc games as well.  I'm anti-sony if that's what you mean, simply because I can coun't the games that I like that were sony exclusives on my one hand.  Mind you I prefer the wii games, but that's just because nintendo's first party titles are superior to anything else.

See the problem here is a difference of opinion.  I am aware Duke was supposed to be cheesy.  It did NOT succeed though.  It's "humor" fell flat on the floor 90% of the time.  Doom is Duke's father, no Duke without doom.. no fps without doom and therefore doom can NEVER be overrated.  The Duke's multiplayer had it's moments, I'll give you that.  The problem is in those days if you played online you were on dialup.  Dialup sucks and therefore online multiplayer, at least at the time, was fairly irrelevant.

[Malenko]

See the problem here is a difference of opinion.  I am aware Duke was supposed to be cheesy.  It did NOT succeed though.  It's "humor" fell flat on the floor 90% of the time.  Doom is Duke's father, no Duke without doom.. no fps without doom and therefore doom can NEVER be overrated.

Yeah no one liked duke*, its not like they sold a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- ton of games, made expansion packs, some PSX sequels,etc. Glad you brought up doom, cause ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, there wouldnt be a Wolfenstein 3D without DooM. All joking aside, I think Quake is really started moving the FPS genre. 3D environments and 3D enemies, instead of flat 2D (cardboard standee) enemies



*It was named #37 overall among the "150 Best Games of All Time" by Computer Gaming World Magazine (15th Anniversary Issue--November 1996);
 It was voted #13 overall in PCGamer Magazine's Readers All-Time Top 50 Games Poll (April 2000 issue);
 The editors of PC Gamer ranked it #12 in the Top 50 Games of all time, in their October 2001 issue, citing the game's humor and pop-culture references;
 It was ranked #15 in the 50 Best Games of All Time list published by PC Gamer Magazine in its April 2005 issue.

[Hoopz]

Duke didn't fall flat on the humor.  Each episode was littered with a variety of humorous items.  Just because you didn't like it, doesn't mean that it failed 90% of the time. 

And dialup in the mid to late 90s was not terrible for gaming on-line.  It wasn't broadband but games were optimized for online play.  Hell, I remember getting the Quake Test and playing online.  Duke was fun online as was Quake.  Why even bring Doom into the equation?  If you want to compare apples to oranges, then you can also say that Duke's levels were much more interactive than Doom/Quake, the variety was much better, and the weapons absolutely put id's to shame. 

Then you can also say that the graphics in Quake were much better than in Duke and that id's dedicated servers were better than playing Duke online thru Heat. 

Each generation of games have the best ever.  Doom was revolutionary but so was Zork.  Half-Life was head and shoulders above _____ (Fill in the blank with whatever game).  COD is 150000% better than X game.  Whatever.

[Mikezilla]

I would say that sounds like a customer title but the last time I said that, Saint showed his sense of humor.

You're a trouble maker (and an inspiration for birth control!)

srsly though, sooooo many great one liners in that game.

Personally I never found Duke to be funny or even clever.  If ripping-off on liners of far more personable and memorable characters several years after the fact and spewing them out at random is considered funny then I'm the frikkin funniest guy I know.  I always saw duke as a lame doom with strippers.  Because of the strippers and the fact that most doom fans were teenagers... duke sold well.   

Do you like anything that ISNT Nintendo related?! Jesus. Duke was great because it was TRYING to be cheesy and it pulled it off. The developers even said that he was a combo of John Wayne, Clist Eastwood, and Arnold. The jetpack was great, like hoopz mentioned, it made deathmatch not so boring or repetitive. I used to like setting traps with the pipebombs. The whole dynamic was great. I cant wait for this to come out, the trailer had me sold. Duke sold well because it was an awesome game. It had a bunch of pop culture references too. My favorite was when you had to crawl in the conveyor and you saw the terminator skeleton and duke was like "whoa terminated". Doom is so damn overrated anyway. Did the dude from doom even have a name?

I didn't even see this. 

50% of the games I own are on the 360 and not the wii.  I like the 360. I like many games on the 360.  I like many pc games as well.  I'm anti-sony if that's what you mean, simply because I can coun't the games that I like that were sony exclusives on my one hand.  Mind you I prefer the wii games, but that's just because nintendo's first party titles are superior to anything else.

See the problem here is a difference of opinion.  I am aware Duke was supposed to be cheesy.  It did NOT succeed though.  It's "humor" fell flat on the floor 90% of the time.  Doom is Duke's father, no Duke without doom.. no fps without doom and therefore doom can NEVER be overrated.  The Duke's multiplayer had it's moments, I'll give you that.  The problem is in those days if you played online you were on dialup.  Dialup sucks and therefore online multiplayer, at least at the time, was fairly irrelevant.

I forgot about this.   

Youre right, it IS a difference of opinion, but you just THOUGHT it didnt succeed, when cleary, it did.  Maybe you just didnt get the humor, or maybe youre one of those weird computer people that dont think anything is funny because youre too smart. Or youre super dry, when obviously that type of humor doesnt work. Look at all the accolades Malenko posted in his post. Where is Doom now? Is it still relevant today? I only played as far as Doom 2 on the PC, but I remember when Doom 3 came out it was lackluster at best. Everyone whined that the graphics were too intensive, and that was about it. Just because dialup sucks doesnt mean the multiplayer sucks. You didnt even NEED high bandwidth for that game, thats the beauty of it. Besides, it was only deathmatch against 1 other person I believe, thats how my friend and I played anyway. Hell, the main reason that game had awesome replay value was because of the multiplayer. We are in an arcade forum, I dont believe the need for any kind of connectivity will count that much in sense of "multiplayer" anyway.  I agree with the notion that Quake was the game that truly ushered in the 3d FPS.

I totally agree with everything Hoopz just said as I was writing this post. Oh, and Duke could aim up and down. And Duke has a name, and its a helluva lot better than "The Rock". 

[Vigo]

All joking aside, I think Quake is really started moving the FPS genre. 3D environments and 3D enemies, instead of flat 2D (cardboard standee) enemies

Quake may have been revolutionary in LAN multiplayer FPS gaming scene, but I don't think it is the one responsible for the dramatic rise in the FPS genre. On the heels of quake came Goldeneye a just year later. I think breaking into the console market is really what brought FPS games into huge commercial successes.

Not to mention that quake came out at a funky time for PC computers, so it was not an initial major success. Quake was a DOS program that had high system requirements...at least for a dos game. It could be launched on Windows 95 but could not use any graphics acceleration, so the first release was slow on most computers. They did not fix up quake until Quake 2 came out a year later. I'm not dissing quake, but it just took a little while for it really take off. 

[Vigo]

Youre right, it IS a difference of opinion, but you just THOUGHT it didnt succeed, when cleary, it did.  Maybe you just didnt get the humor, or maybe youre one of those weird computer people that dont think anything is funny because youre too smart.

Just to kinda add on your thoughts, I don't even see why a PC game needs to be heavily rated on it's commercial success, anyway. Doom was easily the most popular FPS at the time, I know I played a lot of it. It really wasn't the best thing out there, though.

I used to play a ton of Marathon at the same time, which has now fallen into obscurity, yet the graphics were better, the weapons were better and there was multiplayer. You could aim with a mouse like modern FPS games, and there were neat things like varying gravities and oxygen levels, and the game could even be modded for co-op play.

It makes me think of all the cool things they could have added into Doom II, and the only improvement we got was a double barrel shotgun.

[SavannahLion]

Doom is Duke's father, no Duke without doom.. no fps without doom and therefore doom can NEVER be overrated.

You really can't be serious? Doom is definitely not the first FPS to hit the market and if Doom didn't exist, another FPS would take its place.

Sorry dude, Doom is more like the successful uncle.

[Mikezilla]

Youre right, it IS a difference of opinion, but you just THOUGHT it didnt succeed, when cleary, it did.  Maybe you just didnt get the humor, or maybe youre one of those weird computer people that dont think anything is funny because youre too smart.

Just to kinda add on your thoughts, I don't even see why a PC game needs to be heavily rated on it's commercial success, anyway. Doom was easily the most popular FPS at the time, I know I played a lot of it. It really wasn't the best thing out there, though.

I used to play a ton of Marathon at the same time, which has now fallen into obscurity, yet the graphics were better, the weapons were better and there was multiplayer. You could aim with a mouse like modern FPS games, and there were neat things like varying gravities and oxygen levels, and the game could even be modded for co-op play.

It makes me think of all the cool things they could have added into Doom II, and the only improvement we got was a double barrel shotgun.

+1

Doom is Duke's father, no Duke without doom.. no fps without doom and therefore doom can NEVER be overrated.

You really can't be serious? Doom is definitely not the first FPS to hit the market and if Doom didn't exist, another FPS would take its place.

Sorry dude, Doom is more like the successful uncle.

+1 again.

[NiN^_^NiN]

This was one of my first FPS's i played back in the PC days

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catacomb_3-D

[Malenko]

not hovertank 3D?
lol

[RayB]

Wasn't Marathon the ONLY first person shooter game available for Mac, and that's why it was popular?

(note: It came out a full year after Doom.)

[Vigo]

Wasn't Marathon the ONLY first person shooter game available for Mac, and that's why it was popular?

(note: It came out a full year after Doom.)

Doom, wolfenstein and all sorts of early FPS games Came out for mac!

[RayB]

Wasn't Marathon the ONLY first person shooter game available for Mac, and that's why it was popular?

(note: It came out a full year after Doom.)

Doom, wolfenstein and all sorts of early FPS games Came out for mac!

THey were ported like YEARS later no? Every Mac owner I knew back then (which wasnt a lot) was bitching that all the good games were never available for Mac.

[Hoopz]

Wasn't Marathon the ONLY first person shooter game available for Mac, and that's why it was popular?

(note: It came out a full year after Doom.)

Doom, wolfenstein and all sorts of early FPS games Came out for mac!

THey were ported like YEARS later no? Every Mac owner I knew back then (which wasnt a lot) was bitching that all the good games were never available for Mac.

id Software always had Mac versions available pretty quickly.  That was something they did with all of their games.

Edit to fix bad quotefu. 

[opt2not]

Couple more videos released:

http://www.gamer4eva.com/2011/04/duke-nukem-forever-two-new-videos.html

Probably an April fool's thing though

[Hoopz]

End of the world?  Time to buy lottery tickets?  Who knows but it's gone gold now.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/24/duke-nukem-forever-goes-gold-will-meet-promised-june-deadline/

I don't care if it sucks or not.  I'm playing it as soon as I can.   

[Howard_Casto]

Doom is Duke's father, no Duke without doom.. no fps without doom and therefore doom can NEVER be overrated.

You really can't be serious? Doom is definitely not the first FPS to hit the market and if Doom didn't exist, another FPS would take its place.

Sorry dude, Doom is more like the successful uncle.

Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong.....

Id software was virtually the only people making fps back in the day.  Even if it wasn't an id game, the game ran on an id engine.  Wolf3D was the first, but Doom was the first one where id said "here is our engine, run with it...." and thus the modern fps genre was born. 

[AtomSmasher]

Doom is Duke's father, no Duke without doom.. no fps without doom and therefore doom can NEVER be overrated.

You really can't be serious? Doom is definitely not the first FPS to hit the market and if Doom didn't exist, another FPS would take its place.

Sorry dude, Doom is more like the successful uncle.

Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong.....

Id software was virtually the only people making fps back in the day.  Even if it wasn't an id game, the game ran on an id engine.  Wolf3D was the first, but Doom was the first one where id said "here is our engine, run with it...." and thus the modern fps genre was born. 

Your post just made this scene from Scrubs pop into my head:

[BobA]

Quote from Wired.
Duke Nukem will make his long-awaited return June 14 for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and PC. A demo will be made available June 3, but only for customers who preorder the game.

Hope this is more accurate then the end of the world date.

[AtomSmasher]

Quote from Wired.
Duke Nukem will make his long-awaited return June 14 for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and PC. A demo will be made available June 3, but only for customers who preorder the game.

Hope this is more accurate then the end of the world date.

The demo will also be available to those who bought the Game of the Year edition of Borderlands.

[SavannahLion]

Doom is Duke's father, no Duke without doom.. no fps without doom and therefore doom can NEVER be overrated.

You really can't be serious? Doom is definitely not the first FPS to hit the market and if Doom didn't exist, another FPS would take its place.

Sorry dude, Doom is more like the successful uncle.

Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong.....

Id software was virtually the only people making fps back in the day.  Even if it wasn't an id game, the game ran on an id engine.  Wolf3D was the first, but Doom was the first one where id said "here is our engine, run with it...." and thus the modern fps genre was born. 

Oh for Pete's sake. Can you get your facts straight before you do this? I can trace games with FPS elements all the way back into the 70's.

Doom is simply a natural evolutionary step in the genre. If Id didn't get the formula right, someone else most certainly would have.

Even John Carmack himself admits to seeing Ultima Underworld before it was released. Wow... I guess Id wasn't the only company making those kind of games. Oh wait, are we not counting BattleTank and Interceptor because those involve machines instead of a person walking? Has anybody ever seen an Interceptor? Good question. Let's see, which game was first with the neck brace? 

Here's my point. No one person invented the modern FPS as we have come to accept it just like no one person invented the modern television set. It took a lot of people from a lot of different mentalities and different specialties (and OMG! from different companies!) developing the individual components necessary so that those components can be expanded upon and eventually coalesce into a nice modern game. Something that was bound to happen with or without Id. With Id, we just got to that point a little bit faster. Ergo, Doom is the Uncle.

What next? Are you going to tell everyone Microsoft Windows is the first OS to use a mouse?

[Vigo]

Maybe I'm mistaken, but didn't the arcade game Gun Buster come out before Wolfenstein? That was a pretty standard FPS, only it incorporated light guns with the joystick controls for shooting.

Well, the first FPS game I remember playing is Delta Man for the C64 (1987?). It wasn't pretty, but it was first person, and it was a shooter. You had to dink around with a command list to pick up weapons, ammo and heath though.

[SavannahLion]

I thought some random ass Robocop game was considered the first 'real' FPS?

Besides that - who cares?

Clearly the people who responded, which, oddly enough, includes you.

[RayB]

There's a big difference between making a game that kinda fits the loose definition of a certain genre and making it right.

The fact that even AFTER Doom, other copycats couldn't get something as simple as proper controls right says a lot about what Carmack and Romero accomplished.

[Vigo]

You can't define what games are in a genre based on if the game if popular or whether or not you liked it. While ID made great FPS games, it is not they they magically thought of the idea themselves and anyone and everyone else was just a copycat. There were a lot of FPS games that came out before, during and after Wolfenstein 3D and Doom. Maybe not as fun of games, but the games were not invented with rainbow magic.

[SavannahLion]

There's a big difference between making a game that kinda fits the loose definition of a certain genre and making it right.

The fact that even AFTER Doom, other copycats couldn't get something as simple as proper controls right says a lot about what Carmack and Romero accomplished.

That's absurd, Doom is a copycat. It most certainly is NOT the first FPS. Even within Ids own doors. And proper controls? There's no Y axis in the game. Why do you think I made the comment about the neck brace?

Doom is not perfect. It refined what already existed and combined others. It's merely an evolutionary step in a long lineage of that genre. So Carmack released it in 1993 to the detriment of networks everywhere. That's his billing, nothing more, nothing less. If it wasn't for Carmack someone else would have figured it out eventually.

It is, once again, the successful Uncle of the genre. Not the God of all FPS of all time.

[Mikezilla]

So Duke Nukem came out today. Anybody get it yet? Im going to have to wait til tomorrow to get mine.

[Mikezilla]

Damn. Damn DAMN. I mean, it wasnt going to take much to impress me considering I just really want to play it cause I loved the first one so much. Hell, as long as it has the jetpack and some damn pipebombs/shrink ray, I dont even care how innovative it is. Yeah, I miss attitude in games. Everyone is so afraid to do stuff now. I think Im going to rent it.

[Xiaou2]

 Check it.  Supposedly the first FPS game.  Has 2 linked PCs.  Game said to have been created 1973 on wikipedia.. but this guy says software is stating 1979.

 Back in the day, I used to play a FPS-Like game on the C64 called "Invaders of the Lost Tomb"  (called Scarabaeus elsewhere)  which has a FPS style Dungeons. (though you cant shoot)



Sega Master System also had Phantasy Star, which has FPS maze dungeons too.

 FPS isnt really anything special.  Its simple 3d.   The controls it uses isnt special either.  The mouse has been around for a long time.  Same for any analog controller.

 Most games that were programmed before Doom didnt have the technology to pull off what it accomplished without it being way too slow, clunky, etc.

 Personally, I thought Wolfenstein was kinda fun, but FPS games grew wary and boring quickly.  The gameplay is pretty much slow, monotonous (I dont find getting lost in mazes fun), and not very challenging. 

[AtomSmasher]

I've played about an hour of the new Duke and it feels like a game from 1998 with updated graphics and physics...which is exactly what I wanted, so I'm loving it so far.  It's not revolutionary by any sense, but it's classic run and gun goodness.

[Xiaou2]

lol. Review: 

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/reviews/2011/06/duke-nukem-forever-review-barely-playable-unfunny-and-rampantly-offensive.ars/

[AtomSmasher]

lol. Review: 

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/reviews/2011/06/duke-nukem-forever-review-barely-playable-unfunny-and-rampantly-offensive.ars/

It's funny how many reviewers are offended or disgusted by the humor in the game 

[AtomSmasher]

It's funny how it never occurred to me to walk over to the toilet in the game, hunt for turds, and attempt to pick them up. 

It's funnier how the reviewer did and then had the nerve to get offended when it worked.

 

lol ya, same here.  I had no idea you could do that.

[Vigo]

It's funny how it never occurred to me to walk over to the toilet in the game, hunt for turds, and attempt to pick them up. 

It's funnier how the reviewer did and then had the nerve to get offended when it worked.

 

  It's almost like his Grandma reads his reviews and he was worried he might offend her by saying anything positive at all. It's funny how uptight he gets about killing innocent people. You do that stuff all the time in a ton of games. Nobody ever called KOTOR an offensive game.

Not saying I will like any of the humor of the new Duke game until I try it, but this dude seems to be as stiff as a board on anything this game tries to do.

[Mikezilla]

It's funny how it never occurred to me to walk over to the toilet in the game, hunt for turds, and attempt to pick them up. 

It's funnier how the reviewer did and then had the nerve to get offended when it worked.

 

  It's almost like his Grandma reads his reviews and he was worried he might offend her by saying anything positive at all. It's funny how uptight he gets about killing innocent people. You do that stuff all the time in a ton of games. Nobody ever called KOTOR an offensive game.

Not saying I will like any of the humor of the new Duke game until I try it, but this dude seems to be as stiff as a board on anything this game tries to do.

Cmon, people are so freaking uppity. Like the original one was THAT funny when it came to the humor. I rented this last night, didnt get to play it though, so Ill be putting up a review of my own tonight. I dont like though how duke can only hold 2 weapons, thats pretty ---smurfy---. That reviewer though sounds like an uppity ---tallywhacker--- that is worried what might happen if he actually LIKED the game, so he will just badmouth it like everyone else. 

[RayB]

I think the reviewer has a point, though I need to try the game out before I should really take sides. There's an art to comedy, even if it's crass toilet humour. I totally understood his comparison to "Date Movie". There's funny, and there's just plain stupid. There's an art to pulling either off, just as there is an art to creating any form of entertainment. Compare Ewe Bolle's "In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale" to "Lord of the Rings"--You'll see lots of similarities, but the Ewe Bolle film will make you want to gouge your brain out with a rusty spoon.

[Vigo]

In a way, it is a positive review. I remember back when I was in school we had to watch a schoolroom world news program in one class to keep up on current events. South Park had just come out, and there was a "news piece" that was geared at telling kids how awful and juvenile the show was, and how we shouldn't watch it. Needless to say, every kid in the classroom was an instant South Park fan from that day forward. 

[newmanfamilyvlogs]

In a way, it is a positive review. I remember back when I was in school we had to watch a schoolroom world news program in one class to keep up on current events. South Park had just come out, and there was a "news piece" that was geared at telling kids how awful and juvenile the show was, and how we shouldn't watch it. Needless to say, every kid in the classroom was an instant South Park fan from that day forward. 

I was sitting at a PC under the the classroom TV playing Doom one day in in homeroom a few days after Columbine when they started talking about what big fans of the game the shooters had been.

[Mikezilla]

So I read more reviews about this game and man. Everyone says that it sucks. Hard. Like, toothless hooker hard. I still have hope though... I guess Ill have to wait and see tonight, its not looking good though. 

[AtomSmasher]

PC Gamer liked it. Gave it an 80%.

[newmanfamilyvlogs]

I was watching a commentary/playthrough on you tube earlier and the first thing that jumped out at me was how poor the jumping animation was in a game where the protagonist likes to look in mirrors so much.

[DaveMMR]

Here's a particularly biting review...
http://www.1up.com/reviews/duke-nukem-forever-review

I don't know - I was kind of over the whole "Duke Nukem" thing by the early 00's when FPS's had fully matured.  We had already seen Half-Life and were coming up on Halo.  But I was still curious to see what was to come of the endless wait - maybe hoping for a clever reinvention (whatever that means).  Oh well.

[SavannahLion]

Yikes.... Those reviews are really nasty.

Well, I can always fall back on Alice.

[AtomSmasher]

I was watching a commentary/playthrough on you tube earlier and the first thing that jumped out at me was how poor the jumping animation was in a game where the protagonist likes to look in mirrors so much.

I loved the jumping animation when I first saw it since it's intensionally horrible to be a parody of the jumping animations from 10+ years ago.

[newmanfamilyvlogs]

I was watching a commentary/playthrough on you tube earlier and the first thing that jumped out at me was how poor the jumping animation was in a game where the protagonist likes to look in mirrors so much.

I loved the jumping animation when I first saw it since it's intensionally horrible to be a parody of the jumping animations from 10+ years ago.

That just doesn't sit well with me. It seems to me that if you're going to parody aspects of gaming 10+ years ago you do it in such a way that doesn't break the cohesion of the product. You've got a well textured world with high poly-count geometry and an engine that does inter-keypoint interpolation, and then you feed it stiff animation?

Admittedly I have no played the game, only watched playthrough videos, but they all felt as though something was just not quite right. If parody was the intent, it was lost on me.

[HaRuMaN]

I'll buy it, but I'll wait 'till it hits the bargain bins...

[AtomSmasher]

I was watching a commentary/playthrough on you tube earlier and the first thing that jumped out at me was how poor the jumping animation was in a game where the protagonist likes to look in mirrors so much.

I loved the jumping animation when I first saw it since it's intensionally horrible to be a parody of the jumping animations from 10+ years ago.

That just doesn't sit well with me. It seems to me that if you're going to parody aspects of gaming 10+ years ago you do it in such a way that doesn't break the cohesion of the product. You've got a well textured world with high poly-count geometry and an engine that does inter-keypoint interpolation, and then you feed it stiff animation?

Admittedly I have no played the game, only watched playthrough videos, but they all felt as though something was just not quite right. If parody was the intent, it was lost on me.

And thats exactly why I thought it was funny.  The world of Duke Nukem is already completely absurd and they make it clear that Duke is from a previous era, so it makes perfect sense to me to make an animation that you rarely see part of that joke.

Just to be clear, I don't think this is a great game that everyone will enjoy, and I can even understand why some people hate the game.  I'm just saying that I'm having a lot of fun with it.

[Bootay]

Meh, loading screens aside, I like it.

Yea the load times are awful on 360, but it's not too terrible. I am a fan of Duke though. Still have the original installed and an action figure.  

[Mikezilla]

I was watching a commentary/playthrough on you tube earlier and the first thing that jumped out at me was how poor the jumping animation was in a game where the protagonist likes to look in mirrors so much.

I loved the jumping animation when I first saw it since it's intensionally horrible to be a parody of the jumping animations from 10+ years ago.

That just doesn't sit well with me. It seems to me that if you're going to parody aspects of gaming 10+ years ago you do it in such a way that doesn't break the cohesion of the product. You've got a well textured world with high poly-count geometry and an engine that does inter-keypoint interpolation, and then you feed it stiff animation?

Admittedly I have no played the game, only watched playthrough videos, but they all felt as though something was just not quite right. If parody was the intent, it was lost on me.

Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, I thought the EXACT same thing. Well, I played it, and as a Duke Nukem 3D fan, I HATED it.  The game itself sucks SO BADLY. If I paid 60 bucks for that damn game I would have driven to gearbox and punched everyone of those ---uvulas--- in the face. The animations for everything are super stiff, dying is the most frustrating thing ever, the graphics look terrible, duke can only carry 2 weapons at once, when you kill aliens nothing happens, no blood no gore no explosions or anything. Oh man I was SOOOO BUMMED. I cant even type everything I want to say. The animations are abysmal, even the game itself, sans the "humor" aspect of it, is just poorly executed. Technically, its a ---smurfy--- game made 5 years ago. I wasnt even expecting that much but man. Its close to unplayable if you die twice in the span of a minute. Granted, I havent played a FPS in awhile, but cmon. 

The load times shouldnt even be like that when the graphics suck as bad as they do! 

See, I noticed him jumping, and I thought the exact same thing Cotmm said. If it was a joke, I didnt think it was funny. If they wanted to make a joke of it, they should have made him jump like spiderman or something when he is in the mirrior, just as a contrast to how it used to be. I want to find a copy of Duke 3d and play it just to get the bad taste out of my mouth.

I want to have fun with it, but I just cant. 

[Bootay]

I didn't hate it that much. I haven't seen the jumping animation everyone keeps talking about. I will try that tonight out of curiosity. The load times do suck though..which I could have ignored if they didn't happen every time you die. It could have been better, but it is what it is.

But then again, I didn't pay anything for my copy either.

[Mikezilla]

It must suck to be old and boring, dude.

Im only 28! I think the thing that pisses me off is that the gameplay is just clunky. I would accept the load times if the graphics were worth it. Oh well. Just wasted 10 bucks but no biggie.

[Mikezilla]

That whole game is odd. I didnt even get past the first level. I got the shot gun, died a few times, then got so frustrated I stopped playing. The sad thing though is I feel as though Im not missing anything.

[Vigo]

i tried the PC demo...I don't know WTF was going on, but the game was unplayable. My computer isn't super fast, but I can run just about any pc game on the market, maybe not on the highest settings all the time, but it can play a game like Crysis.

I ran the Duke Demo, started a new game and was stuck on the main loading screen for over 3 minutes. I force quitted out and started again, this time changing the video settings to lowest imaginable. Started again, the game finally loaded after about 5 minutes, of course the graphics looked like hell. The game kept slowing and freezing on me, and when I bumped up the graphics again, it was still equally as slow. 

Anyway, I'm not gonna bother trying to play it anymore. I had interest, but my interest was lost. I think I'll just pull out some classic duke. 

[Mikezilla]

i tried the PC demo...I don't know WTF was going on, but the game was unplayable. My computer isn't super fast, but I can run just about any pc game on the market, maybe not on the highest settings all the time, but it can play a game like Crysis.

I ran the Duke Demo, started a new game and was stuck on the main loading screen for over 3 minutes. I force quitted out and started again, this time changing the video settings to lowest imaginable. Started again, the game finally loaded after about 5 minutes, of course the graphics looked like hell. The game kept slowing and freezing on me, and when I bumped up the graphics again, it was still equally as slow. 

Anyway, I'm not gonna bother trying to play it anymore. I had interest, but my interest was lost. I think I'll just pull out some classic duke. 

Thats your best bet my man.  Hell, maybe we can do some sweet modem action, get some 2 player deathmatch! 

[Mikezilla]

And another thing, to all those that played it longer than me, does duke ever get the jetpack?! 

[AtomSmasher]

That whole game is odd. I didnt even get past the first level. I got the shot gun, died a few times, then got so frustrated I stopped playing. The sad thing though is I feel as though Im not missing anything.

Heh, sounds like your just not very good at FPS's.  I'm a few hours in and have only died once, and that was because I didn't realize I was out of ammo when I tried to shoot the exploding barrel flying at me.

Of course I'm also playing it on the PC where FPS's are meant to be played   Also, the load times are pretty quick on the PC.

[Mikezilla]

That whole game is odd. I didnt even get past the first level. I got the shot gun, died a few times, then got so frustrated I stopped playing. The sad thing though is I feel as though Im not missing anything.

Heh, sounds like your just not very good at FPS's.  I'm a few hours in and have only died once, and that was because I didn't realize I was out of ammo when I tried to shoot the exploding barrel flying at me.

Of course I'm also playing it on the PC where FPS's are meant to be played   Also, the load times are pretty quick on the PC.

Yeah, its been awhile. But still, I thought I could have got back into the groove if I WANTED to play more. Not even the dying screen, but the regular loading screens suck. And its just lacklust imo. Like the part where the kid is in the back alley and you autograph his book? It just seemed out of place. And the "hordes of chicks" screaming at duke outside? Only 1 moved and the voices were all the same girl. I dont know, I just wish it was more polished.

I agree, FPS's are meant to be played on the ol PC. Im just tired of having to upgrade em. Thats why I like consoles, pop it in and play. 

[RayB]

Where's the demo?

[Mikezilla]

I had a little trouble with the first turret part until I got the hang of it.  The bosses tend to kill me until I locate the power item that's inevitably laying around.

Just keep the iphone on your lap for those loading screens.  No biggie.

I suppose. The pron on there does load pretty fast since I have a router.

[Dervacumen]

I've only played through the first few levels and it just brings back a lot of memories.  I'm enjoying it, but it's nothing spectacular, nor it is the biggest failure known to man as most of the reviews would lead you to believe.  I didn't expect a tier 1 shooter, just a little romp through yesteryear and it seems to be that game.  The loading times are curious, though.  I wonder if they made them intentionally long as part of the gag.
I'm stopping play on this until I can pick it up at a decent discount somewhere, just not for $50.  More like about $20.

[AtomSmasher]

The loading times are curious, though.  I wonder if they made them intentionally long as part of the gag.

Unlikely since they're quite short on the PC version.  How long are they on the consoles?

[Dervacumen]

I'm playing the PC version, but it's not exactly kosher so I don't know if the load times are quicker with a retail version.  I couldn't find a demo and I won't buy anything without trying it after being burned too many times.  That's why I uninstalled it and will buy it when I see the right price.  But the load times between levels or even if you die and restart at the latest checkpoint is something like just under two minutes.  Not horrible, just much longer than I'm used to nowadays.  Get to see a lot of hints during that time, tho.

[AtomSmasher]

About 90 seconds on a PS3 with game on the HD.

That is pretty long for being installed on the HD.  Just timed a few loads on my comp and its 15-20 seconds to load a level the first time, and 5-10 seconds reloading after a death.

[Dervacumen]

About 90 seconds on a PS3 with game on the HD.

Just timed a few loads on my comp and its 15-20 seconds to load a level the first time, and 5-10 seconds reloading after a death.

Now I have something more to look forward to.  That's good news.