Author Topic: Getting Aimtrak Light Gun to Work with Big Buck Hunter Arcade PC Version (Read 12434 times)

Nitro0602 · « **on:** February 18, 2018, 06:38:53 pm »

Hey guys,
Hopefully someone can help with this issue.. in short.. I can shoot and reload with the aimtrak gun but cannot move.. I have to use the mouse pad to move and the gun to shoot.. not sure why as the aimtrak gun acts like a mouse, but for whatever reason it just doesn't move.. it works with other shooters like HOD2 and 3.. anything I am missing here?

Thanks in advance!

Nitro0602 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 12, 2018, 12:04:14 pm »

Anyone?

Ian · « **Reply #2 on:** March 12, 2018, 12:54:23 pm »

Did you check your mame settings?

Did you contact Andy from Ultimarc?

I have no idea but I hope you fix the issue. Let us know in case someone else stumbles on the same issue.

gstav · « **Reply #3 on:** October 31, 2018, 04:34:01 pm »

Quote from: Nitro0602 on February 18, 2018, 06:38:53 pm

Hey guys,
Hopefully someone can help with this issue.. in short.. I can shoot and reload with the aimtrak gun but cannot move.. I have to use the mouse pad to move and the gun to shoot.. not sure why as the aimtrak gun acts like a mouse, but for whatever reason it just doesn't move.. it works with other shooters like HOD2 and 3.. anything I am missing here?

Thanks in advance!

Did you got this one solved? I have the very same problem with the aimtrak working perfectly in menus but in-game for shooting and reload, cant move the crosshair, only witht the mouse itself. And this is not a MAME title but the Big Buck Hunter Arcade for PC

Any help appreciated

Titchgamer · « **Reply #4 on:** October 31, 2018, 07:18:23 pm »

Never tried this one, But do you have a regular mouse plugged in?

I just wonder if it defaults to the 1st mouse?

Does it have a multi mouse setting??

gstav · « **Reply #5 on:** November 01, 2018, 01:05:32 am »

Hmm.. I just have a BT keyboard + mouse-combo. No multimouse to switch on. It should have raw mouse option like "Blue Estate" has.

Strange thing is that all the menu control works flawlessly with both mouse and Aimtrak but well in the shooting mode, only mouse works for aiming

Titchgamer · « **Reply #6 on:** November 01, 2018, 02:43:09 am »

That is very odd!

Titchgamer · « **Reply #7 on:** November 01, 2018, 03:31:25 am »

Just had another random thought...

Is your AT set up to emulate a joystick instead of a mouse in the AT utility?

gstav · « **Reply #8 on:** November 01, 2018, 04:31:43 am »

Yeah! Strange indeed!

Works like a charm until you get into the shooting part of the game.
Checked and I do have the aimtrak util setup to act as mouse

Took a video of the problem here

Titchgamer · « **Reply #9 on:** November 01, 2018, 05:00:09 am »

Just for shits and giggles try dissconecting your kb/mouse combo so it only has the AT as a mouse device.

That should then rule out if its a 1 mouse/conflict type issue.

gstav · « **Reply #10 on:** November 01, 2018, 06:21:51 am »

hehe had to try just in case but same results sadly

Read on the steampage that they did not have support for raw input, so I guess that's why, but strange as you can shoot just fine within the menus.

Titchgamer · « **Reply #11 on:** November 01, 2018, 07:04:19 am »

I was just reading up on it to.

Apparently the game is full of stupid bugs, glitches and missed opportunities!

Maybe worth playing the original on MAME instead?

gstav · « **Reply #12 on:** November 01, 2018, 10:35:54 am »

Yes, have the MAME titles all ready

just hoarding but the PC title had some good graphics though. :[vi

Zebra · « **Reply #13 on:** November 01, 2018, 03:14:00 pm »

You have to set it up in multiple places to make it work sometimes.

Make sure you enable the dual mouse option in mame. Then choose the input option in the INI (try it as a mouse first and then a lightgun if that doesn't work). Then, in the individual game controls, make sure it is set to use either first or second mouse (depending on which it thinks the aimtrak is).

You should also try switching the USB ports and unplugging any other analog controls. Mame seems to get confused sometimes when too many controllers are connected at the same time. My joystick and Aimtrak stop working when my Logitech racing wheel is connected for reasons I don't fully understand. It just decides that the d-pad on the wheel should replace the joystick controls I set up....

If all that fails, start again with a different version of mame.

malacky · « **Reply #14 on:** February 28, 2019, 12:45:58 am »

What do you use for a gun? I want to do the same but can't find an appropriate Aimtrak shotgun for Big Buck Hunter.

Quote from: gstav on November 01, 2018, 10:35:54 am

Yes, have the MAME titles all ready just hoarding but the PC title had some good graphics though. :[vi

Titchgamer · « **Reply #15 on:** February 28, 2019, 04:05:50 am »

Quote from: malacky on February 28, 2019, 12:45:58 am

What do you use for a gun? I want to do the same but can't find an appropriate Aimtrak shotgun for Big Buck Hunter.

Quote from: gstav on November 01, 2018, 10:35:54 am
Yes, have the MAME titles all ready just hoarding but the PC title had some good graphics though. :[vi

You have to install the AT internals inside another shotgun.

They are only made as pistols.

ark_ader · « **Reply #16 on:** February 28, 2019, 06:16:20 am »

Quote from: Titchgamer on February 28, 2019, 04:05:50 am

Quote from: malacky on February 28, 2019, 12:45:58 am
What do you use for a gun? I want to do the same but can't find an appropriate Aimtrak shotgun for Big Buck Hunter.

Quote from: gstav on November 01, 2018, 10:35:54 am
Yes, have the MAME titles all ready just hoarding but the PC title had some good graphics though. :[vi

You have to install the AT internals inside another shotgun.

They are only made as pistols.

Just use the PS3 version with MotioninJoy.

gstav · « **Reply #17 on:** February 28, 2019, 06:44:31 am »

If you mean that you want to use the pump action in the game there is no problem to assign if you have a gun with pump handle. Here's my TEK AND BBB on MAME

Zebra · « **Reply #18 on:** March 02, 2019, 04:07:58 pm »

Or get the real arcade PCB and a real light gun shotgun, or.... maybe try the USB arcade gun from Big Buck Hunter HD.

All versions of the original arcade variants are PC based. I really want someone (else) to take a chance by buying one of the arcade I/O boards to use the light gun on a PC to see if it works in Windows (like the Usb2gun) or if it only works with the Big Buck Hunter arcade.

There are a number of PC based arcades with USB guns. We just need someone with access to try one for us.

I have never understood why anyone would bring out light gun games for a home system with no light gun or gun support of any kind. I would rather sit and doing nothing than play a light gun game with a mouse or joypad.

ark_ader · « **Reply #19 on:** March 02, 2019, 06:50:58 pm »

Quote from: Zebra on March 02, 2019, 04:07:58 pm

Or get the real arcade PCB and a real light gun shotgun, or.... maybe try the USB arcade gun from Big Buck Hunter HD.

All versions of the original arcade variants are PC based. I really want someone (else) to take a chance by buying one of the arcade I/O boards to use the light gun on a PC to see if it works in Windows (like the Usb2gun) or if it only works with the Big Buck Hunter arcade.

There are a number of PC based arcades with USB guns. We just need someone with access to try one for us.

I have never understood why anyone would bring out light gun games for a home system with no light gun or gun support of any kind. I would rather sit and doing nothing than play a light gun game with a mouse or joypad.

Please stop. Nobody has the time to do this process properly. This is BYOAC. We have to build our own controllers to play this game. I just use a wii mote and it works, but no it is too simple and we have to use an aimtrak to get the desired effect. Besides it is ported on every platform and you do not have to be accurate on the targeting of the game, you be off by 2 feet and it wouldn't matter, especially if you are in cosplay.

Zebra · « **Reply #20 on:** March 03, 2019, 05:41:57 pm »

Speak for yourself...

This site is full of people who take on elaborate and time consuming arcade projects. Converting real arcade controls for home use is a key focus of this site.

Plus, no real light gun fan would ever be happy using a Wii remote or ever say that accuracy doesn't matter. It is the only thing that does.

Playing light gun games with crosshairs on-screen instead of line of site aiming completely changes the feel of the game and makes it significantly less enjoyable.

gstav · « **Reply #21 on:** March 04, 2019, 05:49:09 am »

I would by the real gun with i/o hardware any time if it worked with USB. Would be awesome!
Dammit. One should know somebody with new arcade games to thest on a pc-based MAME cab directly.

i dont think they have reinvented the wheel either. Would be so neat

Zebra · « **Reply #22 on:** March 05, 2019, 11:09:39 am »

Quote from: gstav on March 04, 2019, 05:49:09 am

I would by the real gun with i/o hardware any time if it worked with USB. Would be awesome!
Dammit. One should know somebody with new arcade games to thest on a pc-based MAME cab directly.

i dont think they have reinvented the wheel either. Would be so neat

I was thinking the same. With all the arcade collectors on forums like this, surely one person has a PC based gun game they could try with mame for us...

There is a good number of them that use USB I/O boards. So far, the only one I know of that anyone here has tried with mame is the America's army USB2GUN board. We know that one works with mame so why not some of the others?

The USB2GUN boards are sold out and impossible to get these days but the Target Terror and Big Buck Hunter I/O boards are USB and plentiful on eBay.

For people that don't use a CRT there are plenty of arcade USB IR gun that have not been tried yet. Terminator Salvation and Big Buck Hunter HD, for example, both use USB guns.

Even if those games required special drivers, surely the code for such drivers would be on the recovery discs for this games...

Thomash01776 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 25, 2022, 08:49:57 pm »

Hi -I know this is a very old thread BUT - there is now a patch to allow Sinden and AimTrak guns to work in this game! It is the Mystery Wizard Patch and you can find it here:

https://sindenlightgun.miraheze.org/wiki/Big_Buck_Hunter_Arcade

Good luck!

Nitro0602 · « **Reply #24 on:** May 31, 2022, 03:24:03 am »

Dude! So random I was on here at the same time! Can’t wait to check this out! Thanks a million!

Thomash01776 · « **Reply #25 on:** December 22, 2022, 03:04:44 am »

Hi - I suffered a dropped hard drive and lost my only copy of the light gun mystery wizard patch

for Big Buck Hunter Arcade that I linked to above a few months back - and that link no longer works. Anyone have a copy they can please send me by any chance? Thank you.

Thomash01776 · « **Reply #26 on:** December 30, 2022, 02:14:22 am »

Actually, nevermind, I went and got the files myself now that the link is working again now that Wiki recovered their servers/files.


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