DemulShooter (Dual light gun on DEMUL, Model2, Dolphin, Silent Hill, etc...)

[igorgump]

Well usually things do not break magically when you wake up one morning, there had to be a change somewhere (OS, driver....)
Unfortunately I don't use Wiimotes so I do not have any skills with the whole Touchmote/Drivers thing.

But, if you can't make it work even when using an old DemulShooter release ( Before v10, the ones where Wiimotes had to be chosen as Xinput controler in the GUI) it would really point to a driver issue

Thanks, Argon. I am going to uninstall everything related to demul, touchmote and wiimote drivers and give another shot...

[Montell]

I really need some help, demulshooter is working for model 2, but i cant get it to work with demul and sega naomi games. It looks like its working, but both guns are shooting.

I attached a debug log, really confused by this. I just cant figure out why both gun's are shooting.
I have some pictures as well of my settings.

My demul version is april 28 2018.

https://ibb.co/ZXt700v
https://ibb.co/c8g9BZV

https://ibb.co/QmFpWSf
https://ibb.co/kBpB2L3

[Montell]

Anyone have any idea on this one?

[lllll44]

i sort it out...

[Foxhole]

Hi, argon, just wanted to mention that like hyo2012, i also have an arcade analog gun and also have the same issues with the max range of the gun.
you mentioned that at some point you will add calibration support, which is great and i'm looking forward to that.
For the time being, do you know which user made the modifications to support the analog guns limited range? i'd like to try that version.
Edit: managed to compile for myself.
would still love to see calibration option instead of having to do this on every update of demulshooter.

[argonlefou]

Hi, argon, just wanted to mention that like hyo2012, i also have an arcade analog gun and also have the same issues with the max range of the gun.
you mentioned that at some point you will add calibration support, which is great and i'm looking forward to that.
For the time being, do you know which user made the modifications to support the analog guns limited range? i'd like to try that version.
Edit: managed to compile for myself.
would still love to see calibration option instead of having to do this on every update of demulshooter.

Indeed, I started this part a few month ago but with the whole...well real life "situation" it stays unfinished for a few different reasons
I don't know when I'll be able to end this and update the app...but I really need to finish it as I can't update DemulShooter for any new games (good thing they were no new releases the past few months) as the code is all broken for now 

[lllll44]

Anyone has problem with time crisis 5?
with demulshooter its random work for me, and random not (the crosshair is stuck on uppter left side).

[Titchgamer]

Does anyone know how to get rid of the cross hairs on the 2 Heavy fire games?

[hassansardar]

Bro, it is a great tool I used it for try 2 mice for player one and two but the pointer stuck in the corner for  both players how can fix that while buttons work great from both mice can you help with that  Thanks.. Picture attached!

[argonlefou]

You can't: regular mice are not compatible.
You have to use a device outputing absolute coordinates

[hassansardar]

Can you program demulshooter to work with two mice ?
Because I'm using air mouse that work perfect for me and cheaper I bought with 5$  while light guns start from 100$ can you help ??Thanks for reply

[argonlefou]

Can you program demulshooter to work with two mice ?
Because I'm using air mouse that work perfect for me and cheaper I bought with 5$  while light guns start from 100$ can you help ??Thanks for reply

Simple answer : no

[ToxicTrev111]

hey guys, I am a noob to demul shooter.  I am trying to get it working properly,  first with sega model 2 emulation.  I was trying to get it going with house of the dead last night, I had no luck.   If I left the raw input = 0 in model 2 I could get the gun ( aimtrak ) to track , however when pulling the trigger it would only reload.  If I pressed " z " on the keyboard it would fire.  how can I fix this ?   

Also If i put model2  raw input = 1   , which from what I read is what I need to do for both guns to work, the gun would not track at all.   

any help is greatly appreciated .

Thanks. 

[argonlefou]

hey guys, I am a noob to demul shooter.  I am trying to get it working properly,  first with sega model 2 emulation.  I was trying to get it going with house of the dead last night, I had no luck.   If I left the raw input = 0 in model 2 I could get the gun ( aimtrak ) to track , however when pulling the trigger it would only reload.  If I pressed " z " on the keyboard it would fire.  how can I fix this ?   

Also If i put model2  raw input = 1   , which from what I read is what I need to do for both guns to work, the gun would not track at all.   

any help is greatly appreciated .

Thanks.

Did you read the Wiki for proper setup ?
Model2 instructions are here : https://github.com/argonlefou/DemulShooter/wiki/Model2
But read the basics before if you didn't do it yet

Then, if you have issues, run DemulShooter with an additionnal "-v" option to create a logfile that you will be able to share here

[Montell]

I really need some help, demulshooter is working for model 2, but i cant get it to work with demul and sega naomi games. It looks like its working, but both guns are shooting.

I attached a debug log, really confused by this. I just cant figure out why both gun's are shooting.
I have some pictures as well of my settings.

My demul version is april 28 2018.

https://ibb.co/ZXt700v
https://ibb.co/c8g9BZV

https://ibb.co/QmFpWSf
https://ibb.co/kBpB2L3

Still stuck on this one, i have logs attached in the above post, but im guessing it looks fine.

Same issue people have had here on the launchbox forum, player 1 shooting uses bullets for player 2 as well in demul using demul shooter.

https://forums.launchbox-app.com/topic/54718-light-gun-setup-for-house-of-the-dead-2-pc-demulshooter/?_fromLogin=1

[argonlefou]

I really need some help, demulshooter is working for model 2, but i cant get it to work with demul and sega naomi games. It looks like its working, but both guns are shooting.

I attached a debug log, really confused by this. I just cant figure out why both gun's are shooting.
I have some pictures as well of my settings.

My demul version is april 28 2018.

https://ibb.co/ZXt700v
https://ibb.co/c8g9BZV

https://ibb.co/QmFpWSf
https://ibb.co/kBpB2L3

Still stuck on this one, i have logs attached in the above post, but im guessing it looks fine.

Same issue people have had here on the launchbox forum, player 1 shooting uses bullets for player 2 as well in demul using demul shooter.

https://forums.launchbox-app.com/topic/54718-light-gun-setup-for-house-of-the-dead-2-pc-demulshooter/?_fromLogin=1

This behavior is almost certainly due to the fat that DemulShooter hack was not correctly done (for an unknown reason)
This is the normal behavior for Hotd2 with Demul : mouse buttons are working for both player at the same time.

Your logs are fine, Demul is recognized as the good version, your Aimtraks are detected for P1 & P2.....now to find what is blocking DemulShooter is another question....
It may be Launchbox if you're using it (did you try emulator/game + Demulshooter directly without any frontend ?), some settings on Windows (admin rights enabled ?)

[Montell]

I really need some help, demulshooter is working for model 2, but i cant get it to work with demul and sega naomi games. It looks like its working, but both guns are shooting.

I attached a debug log, really confused by this. I just cant figure out why both gun's are shooting.
I have some pictures as well of my settings.

My demul version is april 28 2018.

https://ibb.co/ZXt700v
https://ibb.co/c8g9BZV

https://ibb.co/QmFpWSf
https://ibb.co/kBpB2L3

Still stuck on this one, i have logs attached in the above post, but im guessing it looks fine.

Same issue people have had here on the launchbox forum, player 1 shooting uses bullets for player 2 as well in demul using demul shooter.

https://forums.launchbox-app.com/topic/54718-light-gun-setup-for-house-of-the-dead-2-pc-demulshooter/?_fromLogin=1

This behavior is almost certainly due to the fat that DemulShooter hack was not correctly done (for an unknown reason)
This is the normal behavior for Hotd2 with Demul : mouse buttons are working for both player at the same time.

Your logs are fine, Demul is recognized as the good version, your Aimtraks are detected for P1 & P2.....now to find what is blocking DemulShooter is another question....
It may be Launchbox if you're using it (did you try emulator/game + Demulshooter directly without any frontend ?), some settings on Windows (admin rights enabled ?)

Hello,

I did try it with no front end, just a batch file and same result. So whats odd and im not sure whats different, I had another instance or install of demul but the same demul version, however the plugins must be different, that one worked fine. Both application shows the april 28 2018 version for both, but the plugins were different.

I set both up awhile ago, and someone online helped me, so i have no clue whats different between those two instances or the plugins. If i point the problematic demul, to the other ones plugin folders, it seems to work fine. Unfortunately i get more stuttering with those plugins and it does not exit rocketlauncher gracefully, which makes it less then ideal. I unfortunately dont know enough about demul plugins, I will keep reading, but any thoughts would be appreciated. Me trying the other installations plugins was purely just a guess to try something.

[argonlefou]

Pluggins may be the cause : DemulShooter is targetting the paddemul plugin in memory.
Changing this plugin file may cause this

[Montell]

Pluggins may be the cause : DemulShooter is targetting the paddemul plugin in memory.
Changing this plugin file may cause this

Both demul instances were using paddemul, but i grabbed the paddemul dll from the old working instance and overwrote the current instance i had properly setup and been using, and it seemed to fix the issue. The emulator still worked well and demul shooter still worked.

I wish i could figure out what the issue is, these appear to be dll files, so im not sure how to view them, or why one would work and one wouldnt, or whats different between the two in order to get to the bottom of this.

[argonlefou]

Both demul instances were using paddemul, but i grabbed the paddemul dll from the old working instance and overwrote the current instance i had properly setup and been using, and it seemed to fix the issue. The emulator still worked well and demul shooter still worked.

I wish i could figure out what the issue is, these appear to be dll files, so im not sure how to view them, or why one would work and one wouldnt, or whats different between the two in order to get to the bottom of this.

Well, great news 

As for the why....you can't "view" dll files, these are just hex datas containing compiled code.
That why changing the dll file caused the error : DemulShooter change code in the dll (in memory) but at an exact offset. Different dll means a different place to change code

[SaputraJ]

Hi Argon, how to play blue estate with demulshooter? I only can find the one to hide the cursor Thanks

[argonlefou]

Hi Argon, how to play blue estate with demulshooter? I only can find the one to hide the cursor Thanks

You can't. There is no DemulShooter / 2p support for Blue Estate

[SaputraJ]

Ok thanks Argon, I will try this one later: http://www.arcadeguns.com/download/BlueEstateArcadeGunsLightGunConfiguration.pdf

Update: that pdf works for 1 player aimtrak not 2 players

Thanks.

[argonlefou]

Ok thanks Argon, I will try this one later: http://www.arcadeguns.com/download/BlueEstateArcadeGunsLightGunConfiguration.pdf

Yes you don't need DemulShooter to play this game solo with a lightgun, it's working out of the box
Second player on the other hand needs physical gamepad plugged

[SaputraJ]

Even if I can make this thing work (still not have acces to my cab config and it's not working on my laptop), this emulator will be troublesome to handle for a long term oeriod as there are many releases coming.
A better way would be to  add it to the source code as it's open source, but I can't do it all by myself as a good knowledge of the emulator core code is necessary

Just quoting myself about it: some early tests I ran make me think this will work by simply emulating X360 devices with Aimtraks (just like it has been implemented for Far Cry for example)

Pro :
- It will work with all releases as long as they keep supporting X360 gamepad the same way they do now

Cons :
- Need of the virtual X360 driver from Touchmote working
- Wiimote would not work with Demulshooter (they already are emulated X360 devices)

Hi Argon, with the latest Teknoparrot version we now able to play Far Cry (2 players) without emulating x360 device etc, on the controller configuration menu simply choose player 1 as Aimtrack#1 and player 2 as Aimtrack#2 and then configure all those buttons, same thing with Alien Extermination, Resident Evil the arcade, Rambo etc

[argonlefou]

Hi Argon, with the latest Teknoparrot version we now able to play Far Cry (2 players) without emulating x360 device etc, on the controller configuration menu simply choose player 1 as Aimtrack#1 and player 2 as Aimtrack#2 and then configure all those buttons, same thing with Alien Extermination, Resident Evil the arcade, Rambo etc

Well, as I said years ago, that's how things should evolve: TP development is alive and evolving so it's a good thing that they add lightgun support, instead of waiting for a tool like Demulshooter.
Hopefully RPCS3 will do the same thing one day

[SaputraJ]

Yes and I dont think RPCS3, demul, PSCX2 etc will do the same thing as Tecknoparrot

Any way you have done such a very great job so far...  I really appreciate it so much Argon.. keep the good work.

[argonlefou]

Pcsx2 has Nuvee plugin, emulating guncons.
It's tricky, not user friendly but if works with Aimtrak (and very good once set as it should be)
So no need to update the emulator, as it is handling emulated guncons perfeclty in-game
Maybe a need for a better plugin but that.s not tied to the emulator core

Demul is pretty much dead for updates. I don't think you'll see anything new and sources are closed and kept private so no one can go on it's way with it.
Based on DemulShooter's name, it's easy to know what was the primary reason behind it's création 😁

As for RCPS3....only time will tell. I don't know the emulator at all but as a console emulator, it may be a question of plugin as well if the core emulation is handling lightgun in games

[hassansardar]

Why newer version of Demulshooter is not working with wiiremotes

[argonlefou]

Why newer version of Demulshooter is not working with wiiremotes

There has been no updates for months, and the last one works perfectly with WiiMotes

[Jayinem]

Do you think you will ever be able to make the Silent Scope games from Silent Scope complete which is an xbox game (I hear 2 of 3 are working with an emulator) compatible with lightgun?

[argonlefou]

Do you think you will ever be able to make the Silent Scope games from Silent Scope complete which is an xbox game (I hear 2 of 3 are working with an emulator) compatible with lightgun?

I'll never say "never", but for now, I have no plan for console games

[sushko]

Hi I would like to report that Latest version : 10.1.5 makes Fright_Fear_Land , Haunted Museum 2 to crash. I have rolled back so i can play this game. If someone could see if this is just me or is it the software. thank you for your help.

[argonlefou]

Hi I would like to report that Latest version : 10.1.5 makes Fright_Fear_Land , Haunted Museum 2 to crash. I have rolled back so i can play this game. If someone could see if this is just me or is it the software. thank you for your help.

Ffl and hm2 are not the same games (physically speaking)
Can you be more specific by telling us which game, version of the exe, and DemulShooter commands you tried so that we can try to reproduce it. A debug file would be even better.
Where /when is the game crashing ?
And which previous version of DemulShooter you rolled back to

[hassansardar]

Bro 10+ version of demulshooter is not working with wii remotes calibration i am using standard wii sensor bar does your software requires mayflash wii sensor bar ?? because before 10version the calibration is moving after 10version of demulshooters  calibration not moving while trigger and action buttons for both players are working well.

[argonlefou]

Bro 10+ version of demulshooter is not working with wii remotes calibration i am using standard wii sensor bar does your software requires mayflash wii sensor bar ?? because before 10version the calibration is moving after 10version of demulshooters  calibration not moving while trigger and action buttons for both players are working well.

Yes v10+ versions are handling joypad in a different ways.
I don't own any WiiMote, I don't know what Wii Remotes are....I just know people here managed to use WiiMotes but I'll let them answer for more detailled explanations

[ToxicTrev111]

I spent the weekend working on some shooting games, with the Aim Track guns.  I got tekno parrot working ,  but I am still having issues with sega model 2 .   particularly on house of the dead, I got tracking , shooting, reloading working for 1 player.   I cant seem to get it working with 2 players, both guns.   

I tried clicking on the raw input and changing the value to 1  and it looked likes both guns were registering but the crosshairs were like flashing and were choppy.

[SaputraJ]

I spent the weekend working on some shooting games, with the Aim Track guns.  I got tekno parrot working ,  but I am still having issues with sega model 2 .   particularly on house of the dead, I got tracking , shooting, reloading working for 1 player.   I cant seem to get it working with 2 players, both guns.   

I tried clicking on the raw input and changing the value to 1  and it looked likes both guns were registering but the crosshairs were like flashing and were choppy.

I remember this exactly happen to me, try to use Demulshooter 8.6.0 version and see how it goes
https://github.com/argonlefou/DemulShooter/releases

[argonlefou]

I spent the weekend working on some shooting games, with the Aim Track guns.  I got tekno parrot working ,  but I am still having issues with sega model 2 .   particularly on house of the dead, I got tracking , shooting, reloading working for 1 player.   I cant seem to get it working with 2 players, both guns.   

I tried clicking on the raw input and changing the value to 1  and it looked likes both guns were registering but the crosshairs were like flashing and were choppy.

1 Player doesn't need DemulShooter to work properly with Aimtrak/Model2

You can also share here a DemulShooter debug file to see if anything is going wrong

[ToxicTrev111]

I played around with Demul and model 2 some more last night and realized demul shooter was not launching,  I guess my batch file was correct.  I fixed it and it seems to work.  I have both guns working with House of the Dead and other model 2 games. 

I have began trying to work on model 3 /  supermodel.  I am having the same issue with both guns registering as player 1 .   Does this emulator require demul shooter ?