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Main => Project Announcements => Topic started by: griffindodd on October 24, 2012, 05:38:10 pm
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Paperboy "Exclusive!" - A traditional restore with enhanced art.
Completed Project Shots
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/final/left_side.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/final/right_side.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/final/rear.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/final/serial.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/final/marquee.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/final/quarter_view.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/final/controller_detail.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/final/coin_doors.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/final/credits.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/final/base_plaques.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/final/footrest.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/final/sideart.jpg)
This is my first restoration project. Originally I mad planned to do a resto-mod 'enhanced' Paperboy cabinet but the cab I ended up finding was such an early serial #34 and in such well preserved condition that I just couldn't bring myself to mess with it, so at least for the sake of this project I'm going to try and stick with an authentic full restore the best I can, only using different materials/finishes that would look like the original but be more durable.
Planned Details
Controller overlay - Black Powder Coated with NOS overlay.
CPO - Original if I can find one or I'll use newly illustrated papers and Paperboy art to create an enhanced version.
Handlebars - Nickel plated bars, Blue original grips if I can find them
Marquee - Black powder coated marquee retainers.
Side art - Uncertain - Possibly full vinyl over laminated panels with complete art redraw from scratch with enhanced detailing.
T-Molding - Uncertain - 'Paperboy' blue and black
Kick panels - Black Vertical Laminate
Coin Doors & Metals - Black Powder Coat
Footrests - Uncertain - May try bright diamond plate.
Concept Art
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/concept3.jpg)
Current artwork updates:
Side Art Redraw complete
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/LeftSideArt.jpg)(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/RightSideArt.jpg)
Control Panel Complete
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/NewCP.jpg)
Overlay Complete
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/ControlOverlay.jpg)
Bezel Concepts
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/Bezel2.jpg) (http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/Bezel3.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/Bezel4.jpg) (http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/Bezel6.jpg)
The cab itself...
Cab condition is great, everything is there, lights, power, sound, game and coins all work. Thanks to Vig for pointing out this is a super early cab #34.
Known Problems List:
- No power to monitor (it seems)
- controller unknown at this point
- minor cosmetic dings
- no coinbox
- no coindoor locks
- no side art
(http://www.kinemote.net/mame/cabs002.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/mame/cabs005.jpg)(http://www.kinemote.net/mame/cabs004.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/mame/cabs003.jpg)(http://www.kinemote.net/mame/cabs006.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/mame/cabs007.jpg)(http://www.kinemote.net/mame/cabs008.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/mame/cabs009.jpg)(http://www.kinemote.net/mame/cabs010.jpg)
This is a whole new world for me, building a scratch cab was easy as it's all quite generic parts off the shelf, but this is quiet different. But time to hold my nose and jump in the deep end.
HERE WE GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The first thing I am going to need some schooling on is how to start troubleshooting the monitor. I have a multimeter coming in the mail so that's a start lol.
I'm Googling around and seeing a few monitor posts and videos, found the Paperboy manual HERE (http://www.crazykong.com/manuals/Paperboy.man.pdf) looks like I have a lot of learning to do as my knowledge of testing electronics is about as good as my ballet and horse riding skills (I could try them but will probably hurt myself :laugh2: )
What's 'Big Blue?' - I think a CAP?
What's a Flyback?
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Judging from your avatar pic, this is probably a grail of yours. Machine #34. Congrats. :cheers:
You thinking of putting back the original side art? Just asking since Paperboy side art wasn't exactly it's strong point. You might be better off just painting it or making custom art if you aren't a purist.
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Yeah I'm pretty handy with the graphics so I may go custom, maybe try and incorporate the prototype side art with the original system 2 to try and make something period correct but better looking.
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Good place to start: http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/Restoration (http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/Restoration)
Big Blue is the big, usually blue, capacitor used in many Atari cabs -- IMPO, always a good idea to drop a new one in.
http://www.therealbobroberts.net/bigblue.html (http://www.therealbobroberts.net/bigblue.html)
Flyback is a high-voltage transformer found in your monitor.
I like Randy Fromm's info about monitor repair (actually, all of his stuff is pretty good) -- some of his videos can be found on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB739129E68D53D1B (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB739129E68D53D1B)
As far as artwork goes, ThisOldGame has silk-screened CPOs and GameStencils has System 2 sideart.
Good luck!
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Good grief, I have nephews that aren't as tall as that PCB.
At least they wised up by then and put the power supply on the bottom of the stack...
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Ok so it seems I have an A.G.I Disco 19" Medium Res AGM-20M which is pretty common for an Atari cab I assume, a high possibility it is the original screen.
Apparently the monitor would start up 50% of the time until it finally just didn't come on at all. When it did come on I am assuming the picture was fine as the guy who had it before would play it, this is the info I got from the last owner, so that's my starting point in this trouble shooting process.
Also it seems like it may be one of the lesser found configurations of this monitor where only the brightness POT is on the neck board, everything else is on the chassis board, so far my research has indicated that the usual Cap Map for the AGM-20M doesn't match this variation of monitor.
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So today I started on my first real work for the cab which is the art.
I've going to completely re-ink and redetail the artwork from the side of the Paperboy Prototype cab so that I can use it on the side of this one. I'm a total perfectionist when it comes to artwork so I really wanted to pay respect to one of the all time greats by making sure the artwork for it is the best I can manage.
My final goal is to blend the prototype art into the system 2 art in a way that is true to both, but also gives a new spin to the original designs.
So my first job was to hunt down as much high res artwork as I could so that I could comp together a working base to do the redrawing over. I noticed for the computer game packing of the game the artwork had been redetailed, so I took those elements and used them to build out a foundation.
So far this is how far I have gotten...
Best shot of the art i could find ________________________________________ My composite base for the redraw
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/build001.jpg) (http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/build002.jpg)
The new artfile is 24"x30" @ 300DPI, this is the resolution I plan on working to for the final piece.
I'm trying to decide if I should introduce text into the newspaper rather than staying with the lines. If I did I thought it would be nice you make it all the comments and speech from the game wirtten out in a story.
Also, if I were to include a picture on the newspaper in the artwork, what should it be? Something from 1984, maybe a picture of the designers, or Atari headquarters or Bushnell???? It would be nice to include something that is relevent to the game's history.
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/bushnell.jpg)(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/atariteam.jpg)(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/kellner.jpg)
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Took a crack at the artwork redraw today and opted to do it in Illustrator, at least the newspapers anyway so they are all vector. I'm going to try and keep all the linework vector and then use photoshop for the colorwork.
Here's the styling outcome, trying to keep the character of the original but also bring something extra. The photo is of the Atari programming team from 1984
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/build003.jpg) (http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/build004.jpg)
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The Daily Sun never looked so good. :applaud:
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More progress on the art. I still have Paperboy himself to redraw, that's going to take a lot of work to get into vectors but it will be worth it. I'm going to draw the entire character and bike, including the hidden parts so I can use him in other areas of the cab's art.
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/build005.jpg)
I wanted to add images that were relevent to the history of Atari, so there's the king of Pong Fu on the front page Nolan Bushnell.
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Worked on the logo tonight, man there wasn't a straight line on that thing, just goes to show that back in 1984 all art was still hand drawn, no copy and paste for those guys.
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/build006.jpg)
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Worked on the logo tonight, man there wasn't a straight line on that thing, just goes to show that back in 1984 all art was still hand drawn, no copy and paste for those guys.
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/build006.jpg)
I won't lie, I saved that picture to my iPhone and set it as my home screen background. Legit.
Looking forward to this restore! The artwork is already looking super nice!
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Ha, never would have thought of using for that, fun though. I'm bouncing back and forward between this and the Revolution build right now. When I'm waiting for parts to arrive or just don't feel like hacking drilling soldering etc etc it's nice to have some artwork I can just sit down with and work on. Next up on this is recreating the Paperboy himself.
I plan to make a bezel artwork for this build, I know the original machine never had one, so creating something that looks authentic is going to be very important. I also want to incorporate the "Extra Extra!" subtitle into the cab so I plan to put those words at the top of the Bezel where they will sit under the main marquee. Retaining the original style is going to be very important so it doesn't look like someone has randomly splattered stickers all over the cab.
I'm thinking of capturing certain characters from the game and illustrating them in the same style as the existing cab graphics to build some kind of bezel arrangement, characters I am thinking of must be the ones that are most iconic that people always remember. For example...
- Women in the cars from the junction
- kid on the big wheel tricycle bike
- crazy cat
- two bald dudes having a fight
While most of the feedback on the new art has been very positive, I have come across a few purists that have pointed out that it may make the cab less valuable should I come to resell it as it doesn't stay to the original factory stock look. That's when I realized that collecting and restoring cabs is just like doing the same with classic cars.
Some collectors want a car to be as close to the way it was when it came out of the factory staying true to the original specs and retaining that pure historical nature. Other collectors like to take a classic and restore it to a level of show that goes way beyond the original standards that were acheived at the factory using higher quality paints and interiors, powerful engines and enhanced suspensions. The really talented ones, for example Chip Foose, even manage to alter the structural appearance of the vehicle in order to enhance, but never take away from the original character.
So in that in spirit I have decided that I'm going to try and enhance the cab as best I can, making it more than it was when it left Atari's factory in 1984, but still hopefully retain it's character and appeal by focusing on the elements that defined it in our minds and hearts as an all-time great. Sure it may not retain it's classic resale value as well, but I have no intention of selling my '84 Paperboy GT Electraglide Turbo ;D
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- two bald dudes having a fight
That was always my favorite obstacle in the game. What kind of crazy ass neighborhood is this place?
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Although I like the direction you're taking, I think that the added resolution of the newpaper mandates real text. In the original, it made sense that the masthead was clear, the headlines were representative, and the text was indistinguishable. Now that you have the sharpness in the headlines and photo, there's no progression or deterioration down to something unreadable. That makes the black lines look like black lines instead of the text that they're representing.
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Although I like the direction you're taking, I think that the added resolution of the newpaper mandates real text. In the original, it made sense that the masthead was clear, the headlines were representative, and the text was indistinguishable. Now that you have the sharpness in the headlines and photo, there's no progression or deterioration down to something unreadable. That makes the black lines look like black lines instead of the text that they're representing.
Good point, something definitely worth chewing over, I had wondered when I first started it I should put actual text in the newspaper, and if so what would the story say?
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Although I like the direction you're taking, I think that the added resolution of the newpaper mandates real text. In the original, it made sense that the masthead was clear, the headlines were representative, and the text was indistinguishable. Now that you have the sharpness in the headlines and photo, there's no progression or deterioration down to something unreadable. That makes the black lines look like black lines instead of the text that they're representing.
Good point, something definitely worth chewing over, I had wondered when I first started it I should put actual text in the newspaper, and if so what would the story say?
Hmmmm, you could do what is done in the game and just fill the text with "blahblahbl blahblahbl bl bl"
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Yep that's a good point.
A little more progress on the art, just chipping away at it slowly in my spare time...
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/Boy2.jpg)
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Yep that's a good point.
A little more progress on the art, just chipping away at it slowly in my spare time...
I consider myself a hack writer, if you'd like I could bang out a few little news bits for the papers if that's something that would interest you.
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I really like the Blah Blah idea as it is in keeping with the game, however it wouldn't look very good in the newspaper text as all the words are the same length.
TPA5 - I had the idea of writing a story using as many of the exact phrases from the game's speech as possible, but I was having a little trouble finding the quotes anywhere (although I didn't look very hard).
Though the main story with the photo of Nolan Bushnell and the Pong machine would of course need to be about the game and Atari.
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I pulled the easy headlines for you from Daily Sun Newspaper Screenshots. Those could probably be incorporated in...I know there is also tons of headlines to pull from the after each day is played.
Selection Screen
"Turn Handlebar to choose route"
"Easy Street. Middle Road. Hard Way. "
Title Screen
"Amazing Paperboy Delivers"
"Mysterious Vandalism Baffles Police, Residents"
"Hero Paperboy Stops Thief!"
"Perfect Service Earns Honors, Big Bucks"
"It's a Rough Job, but..."
Losing Screen
"Paperboy calls it quits. Accused of Negligence, Vandalism."
"Daily Sun Subscription Rate Plummets"
"He Was a Real Loser"
"Worst Ever! Claim Irate Customers"
"Daily Sun Now Hiring"
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Subscribed.
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Great stuff, this is a good start.
Updating the OP with more project design details.
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OP updated, now this officially a proper build thread. :applaud:
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Spent 8 hours on just the Paperboy himself today, man this was a tough one to recreate. Not finished yet, but coming along very nicely...
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/boy.jpg)
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Spent some more time on the art today. I wanted to add extra detail, but nothing that would be obvious unless you had the original to compare it to. Because this piece is 24" wide at 300 dpi, it needed a little more depth and intricacy, so here's what I did, how many differences can you see?
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/build007.jpg)
Updated OP with blue side art and new Paperboy styling
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Aside from removing the thrown newspapers ....
1. A smile
2. Shading (looks good)
3. Newspaper print
4. Red peak on the cap
5. Detail on the bottom and sleeves of the jacket
6. A yellow zip
7. The bike chain is 2D rather than 3D
8. Hole in the bike crossbar support.
9. Turn-ups on the jeans
10. Blue flash on the trainers
11. Rear gear hub is blue
12. Handlebar grip has a red flash to it
13. 3 swoosh marks
several other minor differences ....
That was fun!
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Really cool. You could add a faint pattern to the shoe soles if you feel up to it.
Perhaps something like:
(http://www.starconverse.com/images/converse-chuck-taylor-as/converse-chuck-taylor-as-8.jpg)
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Really cool. You could add a faint pattern to the shoe soles if you feel up to it.
Perhaps something like:
(http://www.starconverse.com/images/converse-chuck-taylor-as/converse-chuck-taylor-as-8.jpg)
Yeah I was thinking about that too, might do that.
Concept Art first attempt...
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/concept.jpg)
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You're going to do tassels on the handlebars?
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You're going to do tassels on the handlebars?
Yep because they are on the bike in the artwork.
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Man I wish I were more skilled at getting whats in my head out on "paper."
This is impressive griff. :D The paperboy is more of a ginger than I remember him as a kid.
Love your updates to the pants and sleeves especially.
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I'm new to this forum. I recently purchased a Paperboy that partially works. But one of the things it needs is side art. Reproduction sideart is available but it is very bland. Somehow I tripped over your post and saw this amazing work. If you are interested I'd be interested in paying for a copy of this. This looks so much better that even I ( a orginal purist) love this new touch. GREAT WORK! One thing I was thing how would you stop the blue t-moulding and start the black?
Again Great Work.
Mike Martin
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Hi Mike, welcome to the madness
You won't need to pay me, I'll be releasing this artwork to all Paperboy owners when I have finished it and I know it is measured and cropped properly. Paperboy is one of my all time favorites, so if I can create artwork that will be used to enhance other Paperboy cabs then I'll consider that a privelage and a compliment that my artwork is good enough to be embraced by others and seen on this all-time great game.
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that's why I love it here. :cry:
AJ
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That's awesome. I've only been into collecting for a year and you can see the number of games I've already picked up. It's an addiction. PPII and PB both need mayor restorations but hopefully someday when I've learned enough I can actually start to give back to this great hobby. I just noticed the metal down where the feet go. Stays with the bike motif. Atari should have done that.
Thanks Again.
Mike
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Man, there is some heavy nerd ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- going on here. I absolutely love it! Great attention to detail.
I'm not a fan of the tassles on the handbars though. How about a bezel with graphics? Looks a little bare as-is.
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Yeah I have been thinking about the bezel, had the idea of it look as if you were looking down the street from the perspective of the Paper Boy himself, after all you are holding on to the handlebars.
This is going to be a longer term project as I am still finishing up the Little Ms. Pac-Man WeeTail cab and Ｉhave a house move looming on the horizon, so Ｉ ｗｏｕｌｄｎ’ｔ ｅｘｐｅｃｔ ｔｏ ｓｅｅ ｍｕｃｈ ｂｅｆｏｒｅ Ａｐｒｉｌ ｏｒ ｓｏ ｎｅｘｔ ｙｅａｒ。
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.....horizon, so Ｉ ｗｏｕｌｄｎ’ｔ ｅｘｐｅｃｔ ｔｏ ｓｅｅ ｍｕｃｈ ｂｅｆｏｒｅ Ａｐｒｉｌ ｏｒ ｓｏ ｎｅｘｔ ｙｅａｒ。
did you just have an 8-bit seizure?
on note, I love paperboy and have never played it on an arcade cabinet with the weird handlebar joystick. love this project!
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.....horizon, so Ｉ ｗｏｕｌｄｎ’ｔ ｅｘｐｅｃｔ ｔｏ ｓｅｅ ｍｕｃｈ ｂｅｆｏｒｅ Ａｐｒｉｌ ｏｒ ｓｏ ｎｅｘｔ ｙｅａｒ。
did you just have an 8-bit seizure?
on note, I love paperboy and have never played it on an arcade cabinet with the weird handlebar joystick. love this project!
With all due respect, if you have never played it on a dedicated cabinet with the handlebars then you have never played it. Absolutely a must.
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Yeah it's pretty much impossible to play properly without the handlebars
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Great, now I need to hunt down a rare cabinet to play.... :banghead:
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Great, now I need to hunt down a rare cabinet to play.... :banghead:
I don't see how anyone can 'not' want to own a Paperboy, it's the best game evah!!!
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.....horizon, so Ｉ ｗｏｕｌｄｎ’ｔ ｅｘｐｅｃｔ ｔｏ ｓｅｅ ｍｕｃｈ ｂｅｆｏｒｅ Ａｐｒｉｌ ｏｒ ｓｏ ｎｅｘｔ ｙｅａｒ。
did you just have an 8-bit seizure?
on note, I love paperboy and have never played it on an arcade cabinet with the weird handlebar joystick. love this project!
Used to play a lot of Paperboy back in the day. I'd love to get my hands on one. One day!
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I better keep an eye on you when you load up that Moon Patrol then :o
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I better keep an eye on you when you load up that Moon Patrol then :o
My vehicle's not big enough!!! >:D
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Time to dust off this thread and start getting focused on this job, I've been jonesing for time to get started on this and it's finally here. This weekend I plan to get started into the wood and get this puppy looking straight and clean.
I plan to completely strip the cab down to it's bare bones and tag n bag everything, then go at the wood removing all vinyl and old paint that's flaking or rough, bubbling etc.
Anyone got any tried and tested tips they want to share on particleboard ding repairs? I see some guys using wood hardener, that;'s not something I have ever used before, is that for moisture damaged wood?
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Bondo. http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,114736.0.html (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,114736.0.html)
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Thanks, there's some good reference photos there, I like the folded cardboard trick, very inventive.
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Yes...I learnt a BUNCH on that thread. I might have to do a pinball restore!
AJ
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Thanks, there's some good reference photos there, I like the folded cardboard trick, very inventive.
I guess Spocks are good for something. :dunno
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Time to dust off this thread and start getting focused on this job, I've been jonesing for time to get started on this and it's finally here. This weekend I plan to get started into the wood and get this puppy looking straight and clean.
I plan to completely strip the cab down to it's bare bones and tag n bag everything, then go at the wood removing all vinyl and old paint that's flaking or rough, bubbling etc.
Anyone got any tried and tested tips they want to share on particleboard ding repairs? I see some guys using wood hardener, that;'s not something I have ever used before, is that for moisture damaged wood?
Looking forward to this one. One of my favorite games. It was cool seeing it in your garage, patiently waiting it's turn. :cheers:
Besides the wood, you were having monitor issues, correct?
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I guess Spocks are good for something. :dunno
Kirk's always turn to their Spocks for solid info ;)
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Besides the wood, you were having monitor issues, correct?
Yeah man it's the original monitor, currently it doesn't fire up when the game does, no buzz or hum from the tube or gun, first thing I am going to do is hose the control board and monitor down with water to get all the old dust and junk off. Could be a cracked solder on the board, might be 28 years of crap, probably both and then some.
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This would be really cool to see in a sit-down version... with working bike pedals, to control the speed.
Maybe someone could build a custom converter board, to translate pedal speed into analog pot values. Or maybe some sort of mechanical or air pressure thing... for direct transmission.
A ringing bell on the handlebars. Tire Spoke noise maker. Analog controlled air blower to simulate wind. Possible terrain simulation, with random vibrations. Pre-recorded bike sounds? or just using the bikes assembly as is.
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This would be really cool to see in a sit-down version... with working bike pedals, to control the speed.
Maybe someone could build a custom converter board, to translate pedal speed into analog pot values. Or maybe some sort of mechanical or air pressure thing... for direct transmission.
A ringing bell on the handlebars. Tire Spoke noise maker. Analog controlled air blower to simulate wind. Possible terrain simulation, with random vibrations. Pre-recorded bike sounds? or just using the bikes assembly as is.
Lol that was an explosion of fun ideas. I have to admit I have thought of adding the bike frame and pedals for speed.
Sent from my pocket ZX81
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Picked up some history on this cab over at KLOV last night, turns out one of the members there liberated it from some guys garage after 10 years of sitting doing nothing. Great news for me as that means a lot less wear and tear on the controls and hardware.
Stripping it down you can see that cab has hardly seen a drop of moisture in its 29 years of life
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/07/a5u5u6ep.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/07/enupysyh.jpg)
Removed the handlebars and took a look at the gearing, it looks to be in great condition, no need for new cogs or springs
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/07/2aquty3u.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/07/raqyde8e.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/07/y9ejuged.jpg)
Looking at the coin counter the history seems to line up with the numbers, pretty light use
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/07/ybe6eran.jpg)
Coin mechs are all in great condition, the doors need some refinishing but again very very light wear and tear
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/07/qagedy2u.jpg)
So far so good :))
Sent from my pocket ZX81
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Coin mechs are all in great condition, the doors need some refinishing but again very very light wear and tear
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/07/qagedy2u.jpg)
Um, Kirk, you don't have any coin mechs. ;)
If you plan on coin op use, might try to track down a coin bucket too (unless you've got one that just isn't pictured).
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It's nice you don't have to worry about moisture issues.
Neph's right about the missing coin mechs. If you want some used $25 ones, let me know and I'll send you a couple.
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Lol yeah I meant the shiny metally thingy bits, told you I have no idea what I am doing
Sent from my pocket ZX81
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It's nice you don't have to worry about moisture issues.
Neph's right about the missing coin mechs. If you want some used $25 ones, let me know and I'll send you a couple.
Yep that would be great I'll take em. Neph no there's no coin bucket
Sent from my pocket ZX81
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PM me your mailing address and I'll get them out Monday (going out of town for a wedding, won't be back until Sunday).
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PM me your mailing address and I'll get them out Monday (going out of town for a wedding, won't be back until Sunday).
Great thanks I'll PayPal ya the groats send me your email Addy
Sent from my pocket ZX81
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Hey Yot, where's the Moon Patrol restoration thread then eh?
Sent from my pocket ZX81
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Hey Yot, where's the Moon Patrol restoration thread then eh?
Sent from my pocket ZX81
Yotsuya's Epic Moon Patrol Restoration - Coming Summer 2013
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Neph no there's no coin bucket
Looks like you'll need an Atari bucket like so:
(http://driph.com/cashbox-reference/4.jpg)
Only know this because the Beast has two, and your bucket cutout in the cab looks just like the Beast's.
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Interesting cutout there. Most over/under doors I've seen have a full enclosure for the bucket.
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Looks like you'll need an Atari bucket like so:
(http://driph.com/cashbox-reference/4.jpg)
Only know this because the Beast has two, and your bucket cutout in the cab looks just like the Beast's.
Interesting, thanks I'll have to keep an eye out for them.
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I've decided I'm going to use Electro-magicalness to clean up any rusty or corroded metal bits from the cab and then repaint them. This is more for my own education as I have never used a proper spray gun or done any electro-cleaning before so I'm quite excited to give it all a try.
Going to use a plastic planter 30"x8"x7" as my bath, line the edges inside with plastic gutter shielding to prevent any shorting between my sacrificial metal and my pieces that are being treated. Some cheap steel rods dotted around the edges between the bin edge and the gutter shield, secured with little 2" clamps above the solution line, daisy chained together for the positive anode. Then I'll just dump in the old Arm & Hammer cleaning soda solution and suspend the pieces to be treated in it from the negative anode using a car battery charger for my 12v DC current.
I can pick up an old Binks spray gun for $25 on CL and there's always someone selling or trading a compressor which is something I have been meaning to pick up for a long time. I'll post pics of course when I do all this, just getting it all out of my head and down here to stay organized.
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More stripping down of the cab, nice to see dates confirming original components
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Some abuse in the coin box area, also some random bolt holes in the front panel.
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Sensei is overseeing the process with his devil dog gaze
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Removed the T-Molding, all original wood no bondo to be seen
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Nice find there Griff..
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Nice find there Griff..
Thanks, the further I get into the cab the more I'm realizing how well its preserved.
They don't make em like they used to...
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/07/u4y7yqa6.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/07/qutyse3a.jpg)
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Unfortunately all the game boards here aren't from the original #34 cab and have been replaced by a 1985 board set #UR01130, still they look fantastic.
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Classy wiring job to the 'not working' monitor
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Here's the problem child
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Interesting to find even earlier serial numbers on the chassis #26
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Original power...
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Everything looks pretty clean. Good deal!
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Everything looks pretty clean. Good deal!
Yep its not hiding any nasties which is awesome. Going to leave it here and hit the sack, not bad for a few hours grunt
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Driving on the highways here in California you get to see some pretty amazing cars (my other passion) everything from million dollar exotics to pristine vintage classics. The temperate climate means they hold up well over the years and the huge car culture means that many people have their 'Little Deuce Coupe' or whatever they like to drive. As a result there are a lot of car shows and you often see entire lines of amazing hot-rods and classics on the highway going to or from one of these shows.
I've seen a few nicely modded Model-T's, '66 SS Camaros, Soft-tail Deluxe Harleys and Split -window VW Buses rolling around lately while thinking about this build and I started to think about bringing some of those design ideas and elements to the cab. This project was always meant to be a resto-mod, but I thought why not take it up a notch or two and treat this classic cab like a classic car or bike. So that being said I've decided to push the design ideas a little further forward than usual and take some styling inspiration from the hot-rod/biking community - after all, Paperboy always loved his ride ;D
So here's the updated list of ideas at this point, no artwork yet, hopefully I'll find some time one evening to mock it up.
Planned Customizations
Controller overlay - Chrome plated panel with engraved reproduction of original instructions.
CPO - Will use newly illustrated papers and Paperboy art to create an enhanced version of the original.
Handlebars - Chrome plated bars, chrome engraved grips with rubber inlays.
Bezel - Completely new back-lit bezel with characters from the game and the header 'Exclusive!'
Marquee - No art changes planned at this point, chrome plated marquee retainers.
Side art - Full vinyl over laminated panels with complete art redraw from scratch with enhanced detailing.
T-Molding - 'Paperboy' blue and black
Kick panels - Black Laminate
Coin Doors - Chrome Plated
Footrests - Bright diamond plate.
Rear access panel Reversed 'California Style' rear door/circuit board, recess mounted with lighting and acrylic viewing panel
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How do you plan to two-tone the T-molding?
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How do you plan to two-tone the T-molding?
It's not two tone as such, it's just blue at the top of the cab to follow the artwork and then goes to black, so it will be a simple splice at the meeting point.
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No chrome t-molding? :dunno
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No chrome t-molding? :dunno
Lol no, if it's metal it's chrome but no pho-chrome...phome...
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How do you plan to two-tone the T-molding?
It's not two tone as such, it's just blue at the top of the cab to follow the artwork and then goes to black, so it will be a simple splice at the meeting point.
I see. :cheers:
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Looks like you'll need an Atari bucket like so:
(http://driph.com/cashbox-reference/4.jpg)
Picked up one of these over at KLOV, it's on it's way :applaud:
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Also ordered a Cap Kit for the monitor. Hopefully that will get it going again as there are no flybacks available any more for these original AGM-20M Med-Res monitors. It would be a shame to have to replace it as it is an original Atari part and apparently they look fantastic when working. I'm hoping that the light use in the past and the fact that there is Zero burn on the tube means this is more a case of a bad connection or cap somewhere rather than death from old age and wear.
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Yeah, those KLOV guys seem to have everything. ;D
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Yeah, those KLOV guys seem to have everything. ;D
---smurfing--- hoarders...
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Between KLOV and the Boneyard, it's pretty easy to find the stuff you need. I've found a replacement coin reject button and a new hinge for the back of Moon Patrol. I also found a replacement 15" vector monitor for an Asteroids cocktail. It takes some digging, but you can find a lot of stuff out there.
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Does this thing play Harley Davidson & L.A. Riders yet?
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Does this thing play Harley Davidson & L.A. Riders yet?
LOL, nope this is staying dedicated PB
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Question/suggestions on laminating that column.
I plan to basically laminate the entire exterior of this cab and know that it's complicated shape is going to give me a few headaches. I'm pretty confident working with the laminate now I've had a few projects using it, but it's the interior edges that are going to prove difficult as the cab is already built.
In my head it seems to make sense to make a template of the sides of the coin column and the inside areas of the sides that run along the bezel/glass edge. Then use the template to pre-cut the laminate to shape and then contact bond it in place. Because of some of those tight enclosed angles I'm not sure there would be any other reliable way to do it properly?
Thoughts?
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Rustoleum Painter's Touch UltraCover. I recently had a family member visit and they asked me how long it took me to laminate the cab. It's painted...
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100208855/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=painters+touch&storeId=10051#.URQZaGeMik0 (http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100208855/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=painters+touch&storeId=10051#.URQZaGeMik0)
Over some decently prepared primer, using a nice 1/4" nap roller, you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference...
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Rustoleum Painter's Touch UltraCover. I recently had a family member visit and they asked me how long it took me to laminate the cab. It's painted...
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100208855/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=painters+touch&storeId=10051#.URQZaGeMik0 (http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100208855/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=painters+touch&storeId=10051#.URQZaGeMik0)
Over some decently prepared primer, using a nice 1/4" nap roller, you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference...
AJ
Thanks for the suggestion, it might be a nice fallback, but I REALLLLLY want to laminate this
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What size T-molding will you have to use, then, if you laminate both sides?
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probably 12/1/2/4/16ths (I ---smurfing--- hate American measurements.... I mean Imperial??? REALLY???? )
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It's yer accent. Makes the measuring more difficult. :applaud:
We're too smart for metric here. The more difficult the better!
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It's yer accent. Makes the measuring more difficult. :applaud:
We're too smart for metric here. The more difficult the better!
Ha ha ha, makes me want to go to the Seven Eleven for a quart of nickels and 12 feet of ounces. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It's yer accent. Makes the measuring more difficult. :applaud:
We're too smart for metric here. The more difficult the better!
Ha ha ha, makes me want to go to the Seven Eleven for a quart of nickels and 12 feet of ounces. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm quite chuffed by that remark! :laugh2:
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On another note I just noticed the Wreck it Ralph DVD popped up on the Bay of Pirates, just sayin' ::)
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Here's the problem child
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Interesting to find even earlier serial numbers on the chassis #26
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Is the wire burnt off that power resistor in the second pic? Could this be the problem??
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Well spotted sir. Funny I only ever looked at the board from above where you can't see that, you have to get all in there. Sure enough the wire is off and the solder is dry. I'll check it out
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It looks like that wire is going to the second power resistor. Could it be these were paralleled, and one opened, putting higher current on the circuit? Just guessing, you may want to post the pic over in the monitor forum, those guys are experts.
If that did happen, and more current was put on the circuit, it could have taken out something else. Those transistors(?) in the back ground with the gold heat sinks: Do they look like they got hot? Or is that just dirt on them?
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I don't think they are scorched from excessive heat just discolored over time.
I resoldered that loose power resister wire and fired up the monitor. This time it showed some life, no picture but a noise coming from the flyback, sounds pretty sickly...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4juTIM93zI
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A little Frankenstein testing action
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I resoldered that loose power resister wire and fired up the monitor. This time it showed some life, no picture but a noise coming from the flyback, sounds pretty sickly...
Turn the lights off in the room and see if you can see it arcing.
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I don't think they are scorched from excessive heat just discolored over time.
Hmmmm... I have that same problem with my hair.
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I don't think they are scorched from excessive heat just discolored over time.
Hmmmm... I have that same problem with my hair.
Lol
I resoldered that loose power resister wire and fired up the monitor. This time it showed some life, no picture but a noise coming from the flyback, sounds pretty sickly...
Turn the lights off in the room and see if you can see it arcing.
Yep tried that didn't see anything at either end of the line
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Got organized on the bench to work on the guts if this
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Well I found out why those wires had come off that power resister..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY5scc5whGU
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Relax, all right? My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it.
AJ
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Relax, all right? My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it.
AJ
Eh?
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If you grew up in the 80s and haven't seen this, you were NOT in the US. I would suggest watching this movie ASAP
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083929/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083929/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)
Defining movie of the 80s...hahahaha.
AJ
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Lol, ok yeah I have a lot of 'murican friends that rave about that movie, but being a Brit I don't really get a lot of the stuff as I never went to school or college here, plus I'm not a big fan of fart jokes or slapstick
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Yeah, we're a sophisticated bunch over here in the US. Some bong hit jokes and Phoebe Cates topless is high art!
AJ
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Decided to send the monitor boards off to Chad at ArcadeCup, spoke to him on the phone this morning and he said he would try and get it going or at least find something I can drive this original tube with. The deeper I delve into this the more I am second-guessing my plans to resto-mod this cab and try and do a full authentic restore, it's just too complete and nice to start messing with it too much. Even if I do an original grade restore, I am still very tempted to use the new side art though as the original art was just crap.
With that in mind I've decided to powder coat the black metal pieces with matt black and stay away from the chrome. I've always wanted to do my own powder coating and you can get a cheap gun from Harbor Freight for $69 so I'm going to grab one of those and an old toaster oven and start experimenting on some old metal bits and pieces.
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Ugggghhhhhhh I can see what's going to happen here, I'm going to end up with two Paperboy machines lol, one faithful restore and one pimped to the diddlies.
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Griff, I think your side art will be a splendid upgrade. I think it'll look better without chrome. Kudos on your choice.
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Griff, I think your side art will be a splendid upgrade. I think it'll look better without chrome. Kudos on your choice.
Thanks bro let's see how it all pans out.
Today us time for electrical magicalness tub building. Here's the bits and pieces
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Fitting the plastic gutter guard inside the tub to stop shorts. Stripped the mini clamps of their rubber insulate and wired them up high above the electrolyte line
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Drop the electrodes between the two and clamp them
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Wire up the suspending gantry for the pieces to be treated
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Suspending the piece to be treated from the negative gantry. This is the cap from the top of the paperboy handlebars
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Mixed my electrolyte solution of 1 tabkespoon washing soda per gallon of water . The tub holds 3 gallons but I just made 2
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Connect the charger to the poles, positive Ti the bath electrodes and negative to the piece being bathed. Submerge the piece in the electrolyte
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Everything's ready to go!
So I flicked the switch and......
Nothing >:(
Turns out my 'smart' charger doesn't like the setup and refuses to give out any current. So I'm off to take it back to the store and look for a 'dumber' power source.
Well you live and learn
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Ohhh birthday gift from Mom, she knows what I need
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Ohhh birthday gift from Mom, she knows what I need
Sprinkles?
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Ohhh birthday gift from Mom, she knows what I need
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Sweet!! Happy birthday Griff.
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Thanks man, its not until the 21st but its always nice to get a gift for the tool kit
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OK power supply changed, thank goodness for the local Fry's.
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BUBBLES BUBBLES I SEE BUBBLES!
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Way cool man! Love the art! I can't wait to see this finished.
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Lots of goop coming to the top after almost 2 hrs
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Pulled the piece out and took a wire brush to it, the paint is starting to dissolve away
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Well its working and I got this far before I started blowing fuses on the 6A supply. As the conductive surface area increases I assume so does the amp draw.
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Griff, that process looks really labor intensive. To strip old paint or powdercoat (that's the goal here right?) I use Jasco Aerosol Stripper (http://www.wmbarr.com/product.aspx?catid=102&prodid=213) or a similar strong rattle can stripper available at your local bigbox. I stripped R2's dome in an hour total and it was cold that day (45). If it's above 70 in your spray area the stuff should lift off pretty easy. I wipe off the first coat of stripper after 15 minutes and only remove what paint comes off with the rag. Then I immediately reapply for 20 more and had fantastic results. The paint falls off leaving bare metal - and in that case it was powdercoat, not the easiest stuff to remove. My total expenditure to strip the dome to bare metal with no sanding and only light scraping...$8 and one hour.
I might be missing an advantage to the process but your electrical magicalness seems to be way less magical and way more work.
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Yeah man you are right, it was a fun experiment but its pretty messy expensive and mostly useless lol. I'm going to return the power supply and use the money for an old toaster oven from CL for my powder coating.
Also found a local guy to nickel coat the handlebars, said he'd do it for about $70
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Yeah I was looking for the reasoning behind the process myself. Paint stripper and elbow grease...
Man your getting the tattoo addiction, Revolution was your first tat, now your adding onto with new tats....
This is like an OND II thread, 2 Mcgyver's doing weird stuff for simple tasks....
Well i've got my tickets for the 3rd installment of Griff's Arcade Whips.....
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Yay Rablack glad to see you back.
Yep these processes may be complicated and not always work the best but its a big part of my learning curve. While I love building the cabinets they really are exercises in teaching me to be a better craftsman. The restoration skills are especially fascinating to me as you can use them in so many places. So its all good, I'm having fun and building my skills as well as my tool collection lol.
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No i gotcha, just giving you crap....
Well it looks like the craftsman has always been in the genes......
I'm always looking at your work i just don't post as much due to work....
Experiment on man, its a joy and learning experience to see what you do next......
:applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:
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I might be missing an advantage to the process but your electrical magicalness seems to be way less magical and way more work.
AFAIK, electrolysis is better for removing rust than stripping paint.
As always, it's a matter of choosing the best available tool in your arsenal for the job at hand.
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Either use Aircraft Stripper (it's the strongest stuff I've used), or to de-rustify, use oxalic acid. It's called deck-wash at the home depot. Get the crystals and put some in water...a cup at a time, until you see some action. Will not hurt paint, or chrome.
For chrome, 0000 steel wool is good, too.
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Figured I'd clean up something else I used to like spending my time doing in the eighties
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Strippers make everything better :P
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Pffft only 15 mins and no chance of electrocution and you call that fun?
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:duckhunt
I love stripper jokes. Looks nice in the buff too!
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Pulling apart the controller.
Contacts on the switches are soldered
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Hard to know if these are original or not, good shape though(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/11/u5ujuse3.jpg)
Ugh. Looks like fix it Felix has been here
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Wiring is pretty worn I may have to remake this loom
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This thing is built like a tank but I guess it needs to be
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Not strong enough though, looks like we need a reweld
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Ready for the trip to the plating shop
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Yeah, I need to pull mine down and clean it up too..
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Or, I could ride this:
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Figured I'd clean up something else I used to like spending my time doing in the eighties
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That bmx is schweet
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Thanks. It's a full restore of my old show bike in this pic:
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Took me almost 3 years to source the tires.
AJ
That bmx is schweet
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Nice bro, I was never good enough for that madness but I did regularly crush my nuts on my crossbar jumping down flights of stairs on a regular basis
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Yeah, that's the ramp that took me off vert forever. 15 feet to face. I lost about 3 days on that one. Now that I'm in my 40s all the old connective tissue injuries that I didn't know I got (because of the 7+ concussions) are starting to rear up. Old is fun, no?
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The older you are the better you were
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Pulled the boards from the monitor. Time to get them shipped off to Chad at ArcadeCup to see if he can save them.
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Pretty crispy! Amazing that the fuse is still working..
Can't wait to see his work.
AJ
Pulled the boards from the monitor. Time to get them shipped off to Chad at ArcadeCup to see if he can save them.
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I might be missing an advantage to the process but your electrical magicalness seems to be way less magical and way more work.
I guess the etching is a good way of cleaning really intricate parts when it may be hard to get right in there with any physical mediums. I'll hang on to the tub, you never know when I'm feel the need to play with electricity in water :dizzy:
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Started to strip down the PSU for some love, these things are not very user friendly at all
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I really want to preserve the stickers while restoring the metal, not sure on the best approach
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The underside of the brick looks great but the top needs some attention
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Test with 0000 steel wool. When I do chrome BMX parts, the 0000 usually leaves them alone, or at least allows me some room for error. Here's an example
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Here's a upclose of the shop sticker...I REALLY scrubbed this frame:
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This might take off the zinc coating, though.
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Hrmm, I don't think that paper serial sticker is going to stand up to that
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First printing original manuals arrived today with an Atari coin box. The manuals are in fantastic condition
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After chatting with my wife last night I came to the decision that this cab is going to be strictly coin operated and all coins that go into it will go into our daughter's college fund, even friends that want to play when they come over will have to bring their piggy bank. ;D
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Sounds like you need a change machine for guests! >:D
(http://www.nebra.org/videos/dscf0004.jpg)
I've got nearly all my machines set up for any sized tokens. Even though there's a large Krampus bowl full of tokens in the game room, most guest still moan n' groan about having to use tokens to play the games... lazy asses.
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Well they can always go home and play on their arcade machines.....oh wait, no they can't >:D
Lol to be honest it's more to force me into putting extra into her fund, so I figured thsi was a good way to do it and very very wife approved. I may consider doing this for all classics moving forward.
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I may consider doing this for all classics moving forward.
Yep addiction......
Although i like your addiction, cause i get to see pretty photos on a daily basis....
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cause i get to see pretty photos on a daily basis....
And, after all, isn't that what really matters :applaud:
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So true...........nice work as always man....
One of these days i'll get back in the garage, been being a nerd and fooling around with Eagle and photoshop....
Looking at doing the ms pacman design with an xbox, move the sticks to one side instead of the ends with a trackball in the center....tilt the screen up a bit.....
Still thinking about it, but thats the next adventure...
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move the sticks to one side instead of the ends with a trackball in the center....tilt the screen up a bit.....\
lol so basically building a completely different machine then :afro:
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Same concept diff design.....you got it......yours didnt have a t-ball dammit, i want a t-ball >:D
Back to work my friend, i need more photos!!!!
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Back to work my friend, i need more photos!!!!
More photos you say, how about first look at the completed side art...
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/LeftSideArt.jpg)(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/RightSideArt.jpg)
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Beautiful! :cheers:
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That is fantastically gorgeous side-art. I'm thinking this build is going to look fantastic. As someone whose favourite game used to be Paperboy, I'm rather jealous indeed.
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I love it, but for some reason, my eye keeps going to the "O" in Paperboy. Seems like a lot of black in the center. Look at the space between the 2nd P and the E. It's not completely filled in. Would it look wierd adding some blue to the O to give it a better sense of 3D? Minor, I know, but it's jumping out at me.
Other than that, it looks great. Can't wait to see it on the side of the cab.
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yeah I see what you mean, it's one of those weird things where it's exactly the same as the original, but as soon as you move it to a different surrounding it looks a little odd.
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Control panel...
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/NewCP.jpg)
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Overlay...
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/ControlOverlay.jpg)
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So here's where I think I am going with the bezel. As the player's stance is actually behind a set of handlebars, I figured it would make sense to have the bezel art look as if you were looking down the street from your bike. Newspapers in your basket in the foreground and then on down the road ahead. Obviously the game didn't show the right side of the street so I'm going to have to take some artistic license there, but I think this may work out well. It's going to be a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- tonne of work recreating all the street details in vector, but I think the outcome could be pretty sweet.
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/Bezel.jpg)
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Great idea on the bezel mirroring the street. Can't wait to see that complete. :applaud:
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Here's a rough mock-up of what I was thinking but I'm not sure about it
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/Bezel2.jpg)
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Nope, needs to be simpler and bold like this...
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/Bezel3.jpg) (http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/Bezel4.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/concept.jpg) (http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/concept2.jpg)
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I still like the papers in the basket look. Maybe just go with green ground and blue horizon. Keep it simple.
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Yeah I'll keep playing, nothing has made my bell ring yet
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Damn, you threw together a photo album that fast....
Love the side art.....
Bezel....meh.....
The last 2 are too redundant with the rest of the design.
I like the first one with the papers, the 2nd I just dont like the other graphics you put with it.
You want simple, just do an open newspaper with the screen as the body, maybe looking like its busting through the newspaper...
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Yep still plenty to think about for the bezel.
Got back to basics tonight cleaning up the PSU. Managed to remove the stickers safely with a hairdryer heating the metal from underneath.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/14/ehusemet.jpg)
Naval jelly and wire wool Ti clean up the surface
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Silver high temp paint on the base
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^^Superb. About the bezel, how about making the screen hole be a newspaper photography in an article? Place fake ads, articles and play instructions around it maybe? :cheers:
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I'll throw this out there, Griff- you have the same paperboy graphic on both sides and the control panel. If you put him on the bezel, that's 4 times. :dunno
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Yep you guys are right. I really like he newspaper idea I think I can do something cool with that.
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^^Superb. About the bezel, how about making the screen hole be a newspaper photography in an article? Place fake ads, articles and play instructions around it maybe? :cheers:
+1 on this one, I was gonna say the exact same thing but didn't know if it would of been to plain looking....I like emphatics vision on this as well.....
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Naval jelly ?
Well that's just plain gross man....gross.... :puke
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Jumping on a plane, but banged this out at the gate, I think this is going in the right direction...
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/Bezel5.jpg)
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I still liked your idea with the horizon. After all, you do have handlebars right in front of you... :cheers:
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Maybe something like this? Just a crude example, but I think it could clean up nice with a few other details thrown in.
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Still liking this so far, tidied it up a bit more and added some details. One of the main reasons I like this is that I can get the 'Exclusive Edition' name into the cab in a very natural way that will sit nicely under the main PaperBoy title in the Marquee
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/Bezel6.jpg)
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$1.20? The average price of a newspaper in 1980 was $0.10. Any significance $1.20 holds?
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$1.20? The average price of a newspaper in 1980 was $0.10.
This is the Exclusive Edition Darling, if you want to go for bargain basement publications pick up a copy of Cracks Whores 'n' Ammo at Walmart
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Yeah man you are right, it was a fun experiment but its pretty messy expensive and mostly useless lol. I'm going to return the power supply and use the money for an old toaster oven from CL for my powder coating.
Also found a local guy to nickel coat the handlebars, said he'd do it for about $70
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"money for an old toaster oven from CL for my powder coating." Please elaborate on how your going to use a old toaster oven for powder coating? Sounds like something pretty cool.....
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"money for an old toaster oven from CL for my powder coating." Please elaborate on how your going to use a old toaster oven for powder coating? Sounds like something pretty cool.....
For powder coating you need to heat your material being coated to 350f-400f. You heat it up, coat it and then bake it for about 15-20 mins
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"money for an old toaster oven from CL for my powder coating." Please elaborate on how your going to use a old toaster oven for powder coating? Sounds like something pretty cool.....
For powder coating you need to heat your material being coated to 350f-400f. You heat it up, coat it and then bake it for about 15-20 mins
Very Cool, and great project so far, Paperboy is one of my favorites! Keep up the great work :applaud:
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"money for an old toaster oven from CL for my powder coating." Please elaborate on how your going to use a old toaster oven for powder coating? Sounds like something pretty cool.....
For powder coating you need to heat your material being coated to 350f-400f. You heat it up, coat it and then bake it for about 15-20 mins
I had to look this up because I had only heard of applying powder coat electrostatically...
Another method of applying powder coating, called the fluidized bed method, is by heating the substrate and then dipping it into an aerated, powder-filled bed. The powder sticks and melts to the hot object. Further heating is usually required to finish curing the coating. This method is generally used when the desired thickness of coating is to exceed 300 micrometres. This is how most dishwasher racks are coated.
All I could find about heating up before coating. Am I missing something here, Griff?
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Yeah, long day, I meant you heat it after, not before, need.....more....sleep
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$1.20? The average price of a newspaper in 1980 was $0.10. Any significance $1.20 holds?
Thinking about it, it should read 25 cents as that's what it will cost to play so I'll change that
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That's cheaper than Crack Whores 'N Ammo! :o
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That's cheaper than Crack Whores 'N Ammo! :o
I know right!!! Life's just wild n crazy sometimes.
Mock up in the cab...
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/concept3.jpg)
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So does that mean you've completely ruled out the horizon-style bezel?
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No I'm just playing with ideas, I may release a set of bezels with this for people to choose from as they seem to come down very much to personal taste, even more so than the side art, which makes sense as they are right in your field of view
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No I'm just playing with ideas, I may release a set of bezels with this for people to choose from as they seem to come down very much to personal taste, even more so than the side art, which makes sense as they are right in your field of view
:cheers:
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I like the newspaper, but there's something about the white and black that's not blending right with the color flow of the cab....
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I actually like the black and white in contrast with the screen colors. It makes them pop and mirrors the color/B&W combo on the sides
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Checked in with Arcadecup today and the boards arrived safely and are waiting in the service queue for their turn. Fingers crossed.
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Hey, Griff, I don't know if you saw on KLOV, but Mystar just got in some NOS Atari parts, and there were some Paperboy pieces in there. Check out the thread "Atari NOS Parts" if you are looking for any replacements.
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Hey, Griff, I don't know if you saw on KLOV, but Mystar just got in some NOS Atari parts, and there were some Paperboy pieces in there. Check out the thread "Atari NOS Parts" if you are looking for any replacements.
Thanks for the heads up, I definitely sent a PM with a few requests.
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Glad to help. Can't wait to see this one up and running. Chad did a great job with HaRuMaN's monitor, here's hoping you get the same results. :cheers:
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Glad to help. Can't wait to see this one up and running. Chad did a great job with HaRuMaN's monitor, here's hoping you get the same results. :cheers:
Yeah I hope so, I'm a little nervous about it
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Glad to help. Can't wait to see this one up and running. Chad did a great job with HaRuMaN's monitor, here's hoping you get the same results. :cheers:
Yeah I hope so, I'm a little nervous about it
GeNeRiC on KLOV claims to have some extra Medium Res monitors. You might want to put a message in to him if Chad can't help.
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Thanks I hit him up to see what the scoop is.
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Nothing too exciting going on at the moment just lots of stripping and prepping
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Nothing too exciting going on at the moment just lots of stripping and prepping
Sounds like you need a little theme music. (SFW) :laugh2:
Music To Strip By - Party Fun Songs From The Golden Age of Burlesque (1966) LP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2EsIBIfgJg#)
Scott
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Lol my wife will get worried hearing that coming from the garage
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The old Disco cleans up really nice, let's hope we can save her
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Ordered my NOS Blue grips today from Arcade fixit, man there's something that stings about paying $60 for two plastic bike grips, but they are 80's original and considering I got a mechanically and electronically complete machine for $250 I really don't think I'm doing badly so far on this build.
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/grips.JPG)
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Not too bad. Some of the old school BMX grips that aren't being made anymore fetch 5 times that much. Nice find!
AJ
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Yeah I guess it's all relative, turns out these were the last pair of blue they had too, and I just HAD TO have blue darlings
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I wonder why they don't make those anymore?
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Ordered my NOS Blue grips today from Arcade fixit, man there's something that stings about paying $60 for two plastic bike grips, but they are 80's original and considering I got a mechanically and electronically complete machine for $250 I really don't think I'm doing badly so far on this build.
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/grips.JPG)
I feel your pain bro! I bought NOS black Skeeballs for my Skeeball machine and ended up paying about $200 for 9 freakin balls. At the time it was a huge expense but I have zero regrets... they really make the machine shine and beat the hell out of making due with a generic replacement. Your handlebars will be the same way... yeah it stings in the short term but you'll be able to say that you've got * BRAND NEW ORIGINAL 80'S HANDLEBARS * on that beast!
I'm excited to see how this build turns out!
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Just remember to never put armor-all on them. That's the killer of vinyl.
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Yep I'll just make everyone wear these when they are playing to keep the grips looking new...
(http://cdn102.iofferphoto.com/img/item/184/262/026/tiger-animal-print-gloves-mitten-winter-furry-fluffy-22571.jpg)
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Yep I'll just make everyone wear these when they are playing to keep the grips looking new...
(http://cdn102.iofferphoto.com/img/item/184/262/026/tiger-animal-print-gloves-mitten-winter-furry-fluffy-22571.jpg)
Heh. Planning to get any other restore items?
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Heh. Planning to get any other restore items?
Not really, I need a retaining pin for one of the gearshafts as one just sheared clean off when I tried to unbolt it, but everything else is complete and solid so far.
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Small updates.
The grips arrived and they are brand new lovely lovely 80's vinyl, I love the blue color, just the way I remembered it on the machine I used to play at the local arcade with I was 12 years old.
Took a box of parts down to the plating shop for chroming and went over them with the owner, he was really interested in the project and we swapped stories about playing Paperboy as kids. I asked him for a ballpark quote and he responded "About $500" :dizzy:
I started choking, staggering around all over the room, made some squeaking noises and fell to the floor. After he picked me up and dusted me down he said he'll look over everything in more detail and get the price down for me, so we'll see.
In all I am having all the pieces of the handlebar assembly chromed, so everything that is above the CP. He's also rewelding the bracket for the underside of the CP and he's also chroming the coin door frame, coin return frames and the coin insert frames.
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It's all about the prep. Unfortunately, good prep for chrome is very difficult to do at home. 5 bills is still a big $$. Make friends with the guy and see if you can sneak a couple parts in at a time with other orders that he's already doing.
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It's all about the prep. Unfortunately, good prep for chrome is very difficult to do at home.
Yeah understood, I stripped everything down the best I could to try and keep the costs down a bit, but like you say there's only so much you can do.
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Maybe you could barter some work with the dude? Are you a member of any barter communities? Maybe he needs a website, or a banner printed. You seem to be adequate around design software. :laugh2:
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Also, you may want to find out if some other plating could work. Perhaps nickel or that new chrome painting some auto places do.
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Maybe you could barter some work with the dude? Are you a member of any barter communities? Maybe he needs a website, or a banner printed. You seem to be adequate around design software. :laugh2:
AJ
Yeah unfortunately the thing I have the least of is time, if only there were 48 hours in a day and I only needed 2 hours sleep
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Also, you may want to find out if some other plating could work. Perhaps nickel or that new chrome painting some auto places do.
AJ
He said Nickel was basically the same price but not as durable. I could use cheaper alternatives, but to be honest, this is my grail, the most favorite of all of my games growing up and I want this to be one of the best in the world, so I'm going to have to suck it up. All said and done the total for the whole cab is probably not going to bust $1,000 so I can't complain given the money I've dumped into things like Revolution and the new VPin
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Yeah, I know the enviro-s have really taken a chunk out of the chroming business. It used to be much cheaper, but the regs have really made it impossible to do cheap within our borders.
Meh..a grand isn't too much for an entire build.
AJ
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Wow! This is just awesome! :applaud:
Your work is tight. I love the updated artwork on the sides. Look forward to seeing this one finished.
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How long are those grips, Griff....
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How long are those grips, Griff....
No idea I didn't measure them. by memory I would say about 6" ?
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Ah, ok, thought i found you some alternates cheaper...........carry on
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Wow! This is just awesome! :applaud:
Your work is tight. I love the updated artwork on the sides. Look forward to seeing this one finished.
Thanks buddy, lord knows when this will be finished, but when it is I'll treasure it like my own spawn.
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Griffin, I am thoroughly enjoying this thread and burned through your LMPM thread this morning. Killer work and you are to be commended for giving us such a great play by play of the process. Keep up the good work bud.
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Griffin, I am thoroughly enjoying this thread and burned through your LMPM thread this morning. Killer work and you are to be commended for giving us such a great play by play of the process. Keep up the good work bud.
Hey thanks man I really appreciate the kind words, glad my work is helping. Make sure you check out builds by Martjyn and Woodshop Flunky too, they were the builders that inspired me to start into this hobby mostly because of the excellent build quality and the detail of their build threads. Oh and if you really want to see master craftsmanship and amazing detailed build information look at anything by OND, DrVenture and PixelHugger, those guys are in a league of their own. :notworthy:
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Hey, Griff, any word on the monitor?
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Hey, Griff, any word on the monitor?
Nothing yet but its moved quite far up the service queue. I don't expect to hear much for another month or so.
Meanwhile, its amazing what you find when you open the back of these old cabs
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/03/a7azajer.jpg)
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There's your problem! That kid must have been messing with the chassis this whole time!
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Fresh back from my experiment in powder coating the counter panel is all finished and purty lookin'
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Nice! :cheers:
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Hey, Griff, any word on the monitor?
Nothing yet but its moved quite far up the service queue. I don't expect to hear much for another month or so.
Meanwhile, its amazing what you find when you open the back of these old cabs
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Sweet, you opened up the cab and discovered your childhood!!!! :applaud: My cabinet has my sons signature in it, I went into the garage, I heard him, couldn'st see him and he popped out, was scribbling on the inside with a pencil.. I plan on clear coating that section.
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I went into the garage, I heard him, couldn'st see him and he popped out, was scribbling on the inside with a pencil.. I plan on clear coating that section.
That's awesome, probably one of the things you'll treasure most about the cab over the years
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Bump for updates! ;D
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Gotta call the chrome shop later this week to see if my stuff is ready. The AGM has moved to position #7 in the service queue at ArcadeCup so it's just a bit of a waiting game for now.
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I went into the garage, I heard him, couldn'st see him and he popped out, was scribbling on the inside with a pencil.. I plan on clear coating that section.
Awesome! That'll be better than any plaque you could put in there. The insides of the walls at my house have drawings from my daughter when she was about two in them. If anyone ever remodels....
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More picking and swearing the vinyl is slowly disappearing
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Damn, I scrolled through 7 pages just to find this project isn't finished yet. :(
Love this game, like some of your mods, reminds me that I need to add a Paperboy. Look me up if you sell post restore.
Wade
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I don't think that will ever happen. I believe that griffindodd will be buried in this cab once they chop up his corps and shove all the pieces in the empty spaces. I mean, how else would you fit him in there? :laugh2:
AJ
Damn, I scrolled through 7 pages just to find this project isn't finished yet. :(
Love this game, like some of your mods, reminds me that I need to add a Paperboy. Look me up if you sell post restore.
Wade
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how else would you fit him in there? :laugh2:
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/UsENXmGGO4o/0.jpg) >:D
Scott
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Lol believe me if this project goes according to plan this cab will indeed be buried with me
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Hahaha. Fargo style!
AJ
how else would you fit him in there? :laugh2:
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/UsENXmGGO4o/0.jpg) >:D
Scott
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Spent more time picking away at the more stubborn areas of vinyl this morning. Some of it came off easy in large chunks, but other areas are much much harder to clean off, especially the areas around the foot wells and coin doors so it's slow and no fun.
Ordered new pots for the controller today, figured I'd just go ahead and replace the old ones while I had everything in pieces. Speaking of the controller I'm starting to get pretty pissed at the plating shop right now, they have had the pieces going on 8 weeks and every time I call they say 'oh yeah, we are starting on them soon', the guy is totally dicking me around. I'm not in a rush to get the cab done, but there's just a point where things should be done and you start to feel they never will when you run into people like this. :banghead:
The monitor boards are #5 in the ArcadeCup service line so that's cool, getting closer to finding out if they can fix them, fingers crossed for that.
But overall, lots of waiting and picking of vinyl pieces doesn't make for a very fun project at the moment.
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Great cab :applaud:
Love the theme and game back then.
Can't wait to see the final pictures and if we are lucky, some movies to ::)
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Pretty standard since they are probably just waiting to piggyback them into someone elses larger order. Plating used to be far more prevalent, but you california liberal environmentalists shut most of them down. :laugh2:
AJ
Spent more time picking away at the more stubborn areas of vinyl this morning. Some of it came off easy in large chunks, but other areas are much much harder to clean off, especially the areas around the foot wells and coin doors so it's slow and no fun.
Ordered new pots for the controller today, figured I'd just go ahead and replace the old ones while I had everything in pieces. Speaking of the controller I'm starting to get pretty pissed at the plating shop right now, they have had the pieces going on 8 weeks and every time I call they say 'oh yeah, we are starting on them soon', the guy is totally dicking me around. I'm not in a rush to get the cab done, but there's just a point where things should be done and you start to feel they never will when you run into people like this. :banghead:
The monitor boards are #5 in the ArcadeCup service line so that's cool, getting closer to finding out if they can fix them, fingers crossed for that.
But overall, lots of waiting and picking of vinyl pieces doesn't make for a very fun project at the moment.
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Your restoration/enhancement project is looking great so far. :D I like the enhanced art and the newsprint bezel.
Spent more time picking away at the more stubborn areas of vinyl this morning. Some of it came off easy in large chunks, but other areas are much much harder to clean off, especially the areas around the foot wells and coin doors so it's slow and no fun.
Ordered new pots for the controller today, figured I'd just go ahead and replace the old ones while I had everything in pieces. Speaking of the controller I'm starting to get pretty pissed at the plating shop right now, they have had the pieces going on 8 weeks and every time I call they say 'oh yeah, we are starting on them soon', the guy is totally dicking me around. I'm not in a rush to get the cab done, but there's just a point where things should be done and you start to feel they never will when you run into people like this. :banghead:
The monitor boards are #5 in the ArcadeCup service line so that's cool, getting closer to finding out if they can fix them, fingers crossed for that.
But overall, lots of waiting and picking of vinyl pieces doesn't make for a very fun project at the moment.
Yikes; 8 weeks and still no turnaround? You might want to threaten to take your business elsewhere - maybe that will get their butts in gear! And if it doesn't, then I'm sure they aren't the only plating company in California that does nickel. Blowing you off like this is ridiculous. I mean, it'd be different if they outright said they were waiting for a large order to come through or something, but just saying "soon soon soon" isn't that great. Ok, there's a contract engineering and manufacturing show that will be having a California show in May. I know that's a ways off, BUT on their web site, they have a list of the companies that will be showing there. You can click the little plus sign by each company to get a brief description of what they do, and view their websites to find out which companies at the show are local to you. Here's the list for their Santa Clara show: http://www.d2p.com/Exhibiting (http://www.d2p.com/Exhibiting)
They're also doing another California show in October in Pasadena, but it looks like their exhibitors list isn't functional yet.
Also, if you register for one of their shows (free), you can get a free Design 2 Part catalog, which is basically this huge directory of businesses in the engineering and manufacturing field and tons of companies use it as a way to promote themselves, so it's a relatively comprehensive directory. If you need, I can flip through my copy and try to find out what plating companies are in California. Or I can ask my boss if he knows what companies do plating out there (we're Georgia based so we're focused more on south-east companies, particularly Georgia, but he gets fliers, e-mails, and samples from all over). I almost want to know who this flaky company is so we can avoid them in the future; we want a decent turnaround on our services, even if we have to outsource something....
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Thanks man,
Yeah it's Pacific Plating down here in Point Loma in San Diego, I've never used them before but they seemed to have some decent reviews from others who have used them. I just got off the phone with them again and they said that the parts or underway now in stripping and prep so hopefully we will see some movement. Like I said I'm not in a rush, but I do want to finish this project sometime before I die ::)
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I've been patiently waiting my turn over at arcadecup and now I am in repair!!!!
Currently repairing:
#1 Joel_D Disco agm-20m [0213-E]
Also the guy at the plating shop said my stuff was in the tank plating today so we'll see, at this point I'll just feel lucky to get the pieces back, what a nightmare it has been dealing with that guy.
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Great! Of all the projects in the Maxigriff tank, this is the one I'm most excited about. :applaud:
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Great! Of all the projects in the Maxigriff tank, this is the one I'm most excited about. :applaud:
Me too. You think you're excited now, wait until I reveal the special bonus super secret bit.
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ahh I wish I had seen this sooner :embarassed:
I couldve saved you a ton of time on this art.
FYI The font used for the logo and cpo text is BRAMLEY-IIRC
Just my 25c
Atari rarely put the name of the game on the sides. The logo seems a bit overused-IMO
and replacing the greys with a halftone would also give it a more authentic printed look.
But really Nice job so far though :cheers:
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Thanks Rich. The side art is a little controversial but overall most people seem to like it.
Time to start back into this project with some steam
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Laying out laminate
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Dowels and contact cement
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/18/9u5a9yze.jpg)
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I love the artwork. :applaud:
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Glad you like it!
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/18/yrapevu8.jpg)
Dowels in place to position the laminate while glue is on both surfaces
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/18/8ure9u6u.jpg)
Laminate pressed in place and covered in every heavy thing i could find lol
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Why did't you use the pinball coffin at the back to place it on top ;D
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Why did't you use the pinball coffin at the back to place it on top ;D
Good point, sometimes I'm not too smart ya know
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LMAO, whatever works right!?? where the hell is the kitchen sink? that should have been on top as well,.. family dog too! :P
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family dog too! :P
Actually he could have probably done it all on his own...
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/sensei.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/sensei2.JPG)
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Great stuff! The dedication to documentation is appreciated!
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Hrmmm, just noticed the Disco monitor has moved to the completed line at ArcadeCup, but I haven't heard from Chad, which means 1 of a few possibilities...
1. Chad is busy still
2. Nothing wrong with it, in the mail on the way back
3. It's fooked, sorry brother I couldn't fix it
I guess we'll wait and see in the next few days. :dunno
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Couldn't wait so I just called Chad, it's dead, I'm off to sulk in the corner for a while.
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Crap, sorry to hear that. What's the replacement cost? Does that kill the build for awhile?
AJ
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Bummer. What's the issue? Doesn't have replacement parts?
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Its the flyback cant get em for the agm any more. The restore will continue for now but not sure on the monitor
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Hmmmm... time to start fishing on KLOV...
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griffindodd:
Hello! I admire your work and patience!
I also have one Paperboy. Side art is completely gone and that's why I asked you if I could get yours. Printing can do it.
Thank you very much for your reply and help!
mail: rewegar@post.cz
PS: sorry for bad English: (
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Hi there. Yes you can have it but I'm only releasing it once this build is complete.
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I understand. And when you are planning to completion?
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I understand. And when you are planning to completion?
How long is a piece of string
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Flush trim routed, one side done
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/19/pequvu2u.jpg)
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curious why black laminate?
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I like to use it under vinyl as a perfect surface, also it has great impact resistance, some may say overkill, but I'm building this to last.
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I like to use it under vinyl as a perfect surface, also it has great impact resistance, some may say overkill, but I'm building this to last.
heck yeah, with the little tricycle motors about, sturdy above purdy!
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I like to use it under vinyl as a perfect surface, also it has great impact resistance, some may say overkill, but I'm building this to last.
yeah no I figured as much.
but when you get to the sideart some vinyls are not very opaque a Black background may not always be the best choice.
same goes for the cp would recommend white
just some foodfight for thought....
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Yeah I hear ya. I get my printing done with Game on Graphix their vinyl is very nice quality and the colors are vibrant. Revolution was done with this same laminate under their printed vinyl
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/20/abaru2uh.jpg)
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Not going to get much done this weekend I dont think, the wife is running a 36hr 210 mile ultra relay called the Ragnar, so I'm at home playing single parent. But I grabbed an hour while my little one was taking a nap.
Been wondering how I was going to manage to pull off an accurate job of the lamination of the column and foot wells of the cabinet as I can't pull it to pieces to flat laminate and flush trim everything. So I've been chewing over this idea for months and decided to just give it a try today.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/21/y7udu8aj.jpg)
Made a template the exact width of the footwells
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/21/aryhenus.jpg)
Measured off the length of each of the faces of the footwell
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/21/epe7egyq.jpg)
Clamp up the laminate along the template to the length required
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/21/meqa5epe.jpg)
Route it off with a flush trim bit
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/21/2emapege.jpg)
Perfect fit
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/21/ezasa4yq.jpg)
Even used the same technique to cut the aluminum diamond plate sheet, which is very thin.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/21/uvybunu6.jpg)
Looking good.
Well it worked and I'm super happy with the result, that has been rolling around in my head forever, I'll use the same technique to do all of the rest of the panels front and back that I can't remove from the cab itself.
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Grabbed another spare hour...
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/22/epysydyp.jpg)
Rear door wood repair
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Back to the spidey web glue. This stuff is spendy but its amazing. Cures in two minutes and as soon as you lay it up its stuck, no clamping or pressure needed.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/22/erena7e4.jpg)
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Second side and back door done,
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/22/ujyqubeq.jpg)
I'm hoping I can chip away at this during the week and have all the lamination done by next weekend. Ordered all the art from Scott at GoG yesterday so that should be ready by the weekend too.
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I was going to powder coat the coin doors but I was so happy with the textured finish I got on the Donkey Kong coin door that I decided to do the same here, also the bezel retainers and coin return flaps.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/22/u5yze5e6.jpg)
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How much texture does that paint have? I think the hammered black looks more like the Happ factory finish:
(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p191/mcseforsale/MAME_CAB/IMG_9292.jpg) (http://s128.photobucket.com/user/mcseforsale/media/MAME_CAB/IMG_9292.jpg.html)
Cab looks amazing. Awesome job on the footwells. I bet you were scratching your head staring at that thing for a while. Excellent solution.
AJ
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Thanks man. Yeah I think its just a personal taste thing. For me the hammered finished has been done to death so I like that this finish looks more subtle and less 'fancy texture paint from Home Depot' even though that's exactly what it is lol
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So I take it this means you're not going to risk electrocuting yourself welding two toaster ovens together? >:D
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So I take it this means you're not going to risk electrocuting yourself welding two toaster ovens together? >:D
Lol I never got around to putting the outer door on it, it does actually work, too much crap going on so I have to just focus on the most important stuff.
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Just got off the phone with the guy doing the chrome, he says I can pick everything up tomorrow, but believe me it's going to get ugly when I get down there. This guy is ---smurfing--- tool of the tenth degree. I asked him to do a weld job on the under-panel bracket of the handlebars, which it turns out he has done and then he had the whole damn thing chromed. So now I have the best looking non-visible Paperboy handlebar bracket the world has never seen. :angry: what an asshat.
When I originally got the quote he said $80 on the phone, when I dropped the pieces off he said $500 I told him no fuppin' way so he said dont worry we'll work it out. Now he's saying $375 on the phone because he had to chrome 'all those big pieces' and rechrome the under-panle bracket because when they welded it it damaged the chrome. THERE WAS NO FEKKIN CHROME ON IT WHEN I DROPPED IT OFF FOR WELDING!!!!!!!!!! So this tool has not only chromed the under bracket once, but twice :hissy:
At this point I just want my pieces back from this interstellar-knob-rocket I'm going to throw $250 at him take my ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- and walk.
People like this need to be thrown in the ocean with concrete shoes.
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Yeah. Finishers know that your stuff is important and like to do that. We should get a BOYAC posse to go with you.
AJ
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What a :censored: . It's his screw up, he shouldn't charge you for his incompetence.
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What a :censored: . It's his screw up, he shouldn't charge you for his incompetence.
There's no way in hell I am paying for that horse crap, this guy has been tooling me around for over 2 months.
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Hey there Maximus, that sucks! I'm glad we don't have those kind of problems here in Japan. The service industry here is very CUSTOMER FIRST oriented. If the shop makes a mistake they own up to it without payment and most of the time they throw in a little extra to get you to come back. I don't think that it has ever been like that in the US.
Good lord man, how many projects are you juggling? I am just finishing up 11 of 13 projects we started maybe a year and a half ago. I am always happy to end a project, but it isn't long before the urge to start anew hits me again.
The guys I work on these projects with always seem to make smartas&'% comments about how I go about things. Reminds me of a comment from the Steven King movie Christine, "Look how cock-eyed he works! He's got... brand new windshield wipers for a busted windshield."
Heh heh, hey if my process gets the job done lets not complain about the road I take.
But, hey man, if you need me to send out some customer support ninjas to handle this guy let me know >:D
Jigenjuke
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Thanks man. I really like the sound of those customer service ninjas
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Finally all pieces back from the chrome shop, triple plated goodness...
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/25/ezypusag.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/25/hetyzage.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/25/uqe3a5e9.jpg)
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Wow, that's the best looking non-visible Paperboy handlebar bracket I have ever seen! >:D
Can't wait to see this through. Any luck finding a monitor? Did you talk to GeNeRiC on KLOV? He claims to have an extra.
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Do the Customer Service Ninjas need to pay that guy a follow-up visit? :bat >:D
Scott
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Do the Customer Service Ninjas need to pay that guy a follow-up visit? :bat >:D
Lol he came down to $180 and an apology which I thought was fair, just glad to have it all back and looking so purty
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I know you got jerked around by the platers, but at least it looks freakin' awesome! The quality looks like it surpasses the original chrome plating from Atari.
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Did you talk to GeNeRiC on KLOV? He claims to have an extra.
There's no user by that name at KLOV
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The quality looks like it surpasses the original chrome plating from Atari.
Yeah it looks good, they were actually never chrome plated, only nickel, so this is extra fancy with a cherry on ;D
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Did you talk to GeNeRiC on KLOV? He claims to have an extra.
There's no user by that name at KLOV
Whoops. He l33ted it out. It's g3n3r1c.
I know I saw a post where he said he had an extra medium res monitor. I just can't find it.
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Ok thanks bud, I'll try and hit him up
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OooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooh, shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy......................
*__* <3
Glad to see you finally got your parts back and that the price was not in the $500 range. ^_^
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Took a risk chroming the trim of the coin doors but the results paid off
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/25/unadyteq.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/25/gyme9uta.jpg)
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Took a risk chroming the trim of the coin doors but the results paid off
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/25/unadyteq.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/25/gyme9uta.jpg)
Dude..... Just.... Dude......
BRAVO!!!
:applaud:
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I'm glad we don't have those kind of problems here in Japan. The service industry here is very CUSTOMER FIRST oriented.
No joke about this. I was "crap-my-pants" impressed with the kinda treatment I received in my short time in Japan. By far, the best hospitality I have ever received in my life. Period.
Took a risk chroming the trim of the coin doors but the results paid off
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/25/unadyteq.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/25/gyme9uta.jpg)
Wow! Ballzy call, but that is some stunning results. Best CC over/under door I've ever seen. :applaud:
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The Terminator 2 of controllers
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/25/ugytubyp.jpg)
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Yeah, that's wicked.
AJ
The Terminator 2 of controllers
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/25/ugytubyp.jpg)
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Slowly slowly slowly making my way through cutting all the laminate panels for each surface. Painful work but it will be worth it
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/26/ryquhehy.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/26/9ede2era.jpg)
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That friggin' chrome is friggin' awesome. :cheers:
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That friggin' chrome is friggin' awesome. :cheers:
Lol. Friggin' thanks.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/27/7ezeqyzu.jpg)
New pots and NOS grips, gotta be blue or GTFO
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The old handlebar wiring harness is pretty thrashed so I'm going to make a new one and put it in spiral shielding
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/28/2ary4eqy.jpg)
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Impressive job, congrats!!
It somewhat reminds me of this other improved cabinet ->
(http://www.dragonslairfans.com/forforum/spacesideart.jpg)
(http://www.dragonslairfans.com/forforum/euromeeting06/edl70.jpg)
Are you going to share the art files once done?
Good luck with the rest, keep up the good work!
Matteo
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More laminate pattern making. This is the really tough one
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/28/se9e6umu.jpg)
Making an offset trace by using a fixed length marker, in this case the tape on the ruler.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/28/7a9yqe8a.jpg)
Making sure the offset marker is square I'm marking off all the points that make the shape
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/28/5eju5azy.jpg)
Join them all together and this should give me an accurate copy of the lines of the cabinet.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/28/quruvaty.jpg)
Snug fit for my scrap wood template
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/28/bu3ehuje.jpg)
Sand the edge so its flush with the cabinet wood, ready to use this to make my laminate pieces for each side.
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(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/28/muvedu2y.jpg)
Glueing up
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/28/sesy2e9y.jpg)
The hard part is done, the whole front and sides of the cab are totally laminated top to bottom . the back door is already done so I just have a few basic back panels to do and then the whole wood refurb will be complete
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I found my replacement monitor thanks to Lostgold over at KLOV. A nice medium res with no burn, very bright and colorful. I really didn't want another cab but I had to get my monitor to finish my Paperboy. Sprint works perfectly and its in OK condition so if anyone is around San Diego and wants the rest if the cab let me know
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/28/jape5aha.jpg)
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Long day but good progress
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/28/ydyba5u5.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/28/yzynyva6.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/28/gu9yzevy.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/28/a3edebev.jpg)
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Finished putting the original supply back together, stickers and all
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/29/ajy3e5ab.jpg)
All wired up and ready to test
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/29/7ysyduqu.jpg)
MORE COWBELL!!!!!!!!""
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiWr8dwg-UM
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are you originally from the UK? your accent sounds a bit English
great restore by the way
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Yep born and lived in Chester until I was 22 and then got the hell out and never looked back Lol
Controller wired and assembled with new pots and grips.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/29/nygasy6u.jpg)
I'm concerned that the pots aren't the right ones. I thought star wars and paperboy yolks used the same ones but im concerned that he isn't accelerating and braking as much as I remember.
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Can you adjust the connection so that the pot is maxed when the gearing is maxed? You using 5k pots?
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Just checked yeah they are 5k so they are good maybe they need a bit of break in or will be better when everything is bolted in place. I'm being delicate with it while the CP isn't all torqued down
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Turns out there is a calibration screen in the setup menu but I can't get to it (see below). Tested a bit more though and its not far off really so I think I'm on the right track.
The thing I have noticed though is that there is no player two start button wiring. The two handlebar buttons were bridged so they both fire the same command which is just player one. Also I noticed that there is wiring for a third pot in the harness. Now I need to work out where player two start is on the pin block and run a line for it. Without player 2 start you can't move through the screens on the setup menu and of course cannot have a two player game.
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Player two start now fixed and the yolk is working properly, game plays perfectly. Now its just a matter of touch up, t molding, art and the super special secret awesome extra bit >:D.
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I'm just going to post this because an Atari T-Shirt makes everyone happy.
(http://www.8-bitcentral.com/images/blog/2010/arielRebelAtari.jpg)
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T-Molding arrived today both blue and black as the design uses two colors. Took a chance, the cabinet just seemed thicker so I went for the 13/16". Measured it in the cab tonight and sure enough it is a perfect fit phew!
Art shipped from GoG today so should be here for Thursday then I'll do some final color checking before deciding to apply it.
Lots of people have been asking about the art so I've decided on two approaches.
1 - Release the flat files for anyone to get printed at their choice of vendor as long as its for personal use only
2 - I'm working with Scott at Game On Graphix to provide an off-the-shelf option that people can simply buy printed from their web store. Hopefully he will be able to provide coated vinyl for the handlebars and CPO and of course the sides in regular printed vinyls.
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Been lurking on this thread for quite some time, looking good. I'd love to get that artwork to put on my Paperboy, so I'll be happy at either option. Can't wait to see it applied.
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I'm just going to quote this because an Atari T-Shirt makes everyone happy.
(http://www.8-bitcentral.com/images/blog/2010/arielRebelAtari.jpg)
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I had no idea about the cowbell!
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(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/02/nugymatu.jpg)
CP stripped and ready for graphics. Time for some more 'testing' :))
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(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/02/3yjaqejy.jpg)
Yeah I still got it baby
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Now the fun is really starting
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/03/pyqugune.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/03/tepe4u7u.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/03/equzu4yz.jpg)
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I wish I could add something other than fanboy praise....
but dang dude, this one has swag.
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Did you get the side art yet?
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Awwww thanks Harvey :cheers:
Did you get the side art yet?
Yeah Bro it's here but I'm too tried to attack that tonight, did get this done though
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/paperboy040.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/paperboy041.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/paperboy042.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/paperboy043.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/paperboy044.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/paperboy045.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/paperboy046.jpg)
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You happy with the color of the Paperboy?
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You happy with the color of the Paperboy?
He could definitely be lighter in tone, I don't know if it's a deal breaker though, looks fine on the CP because of all of the red, not too sure about the sides, I'm going to have to chew on it.
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Wat? No handle bar tassels? I am disappoint. ;D
That whole setup looks the tits. You need to find an original locally and arrange side by side shots.
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Stunning.
AJ
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More than perfect :applaud:
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Yeah, I think the Paperboy looks fine from this perspective. Get that sideart on!
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Whoa! That is so hot that I'm surprised my work didn't filter it out as porn. :notworthy:
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Whoa! That is so hot that I'm surprised my work didn't filter it out as porn. :notworthy:
Lol, websense hasn't found us yet.
Taped up the side art tonight to check the layout, trim etc. We're going to do a little color correction here and there, but overall I think this is looking great.
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/paperboy047.jpg)
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Wat? No handle bar tassels? I am disappoint. ;D
Can we borrow your pasties Le Chuck?
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That's nuckin futz.
AJ
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That's nuckin futz.
AJ
Lol, have you heard the spoonerism song by the english comedian Jasper Carrot called 'Bastity Chelt'? It's Huckin Filarious.
Jasper Carrott - Bastity Chelt (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82283668#)
Seriously though, if you like this, you're going to lose your mind when I finish up the easter egg for this, you aint seen nothing yet bubba
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Easter Eggs is my favorite...
(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p191/mcseforsale/MAME_CAB/IMG_7574.jpg) (http://s128.photobucket.com/user/mcseforsale/media/MAME_CAB/IMG_7574.jpg.html)
AJ
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What are we looking at there?
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Family dates in the marquee and CP.
(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p191/mcseforsale/MAME_CAB/CUSTOM_MARQUEE.png) (http://s128.photobucket.com/user/mcseforsale/media/MAME_CAB/CUSTOM_MARQUEE.png.html)
(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p191/mcseforsale/MAME_CAB/CP_FINAL_NO_BUTTONS.png) (http://s128.photobucket.com/user/mcseforsale/media/MAME_CAB/CP_FINAL_NO_BUTTONS.png.html)
Kids' birthdays, our birthdays and our anniversary.
AJ
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That's cool I like that. I guess technically what I'll be doing is more of a feature than an easter egg to be found. Either way I think you guys will dig it
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This cabinet looks like a million bucks. :applaud:
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Will it transform into a motorcycle? That'd be awesome. That'd be the best Easter Egg ever.
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Hi all,
I did the color retouches, so I'm just waiting for the new versions of the art to arrive and then I can go ahead and drag this 400lb beast into the house and apply all of those finishing touches, vinyl and of course T-molding.
Having an odd issue with the coin door lights not working. I dont have any dead fuses on the power supply that I can see but I'm not getting any voltage across the coin door light terminals. Assuming I should be seeing 12v there. Odd one.
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Hi all,
I did the color retouches, so I'm just waiting for the new versions of the art to arrive and then I can go ahead and drag this 400lb beast into the house and apply all of those finishing touches, vinyl and of course T-molding.
Having an odd issue with the coin door lights not working. I dont have any dead fuses on the power supply that I can see but I'm not getting any voltage across the coin door light terminals. Assuming I should be seeing 12v there. Odd one.
Are they the bayonet kind? They act goofy some times. I ended up cutting them out in one cab I have and replaced them with wedge LEDs.
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Yeah but I was testing the contact tabs, not even any voltage there
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No idea what was going on before but I slapped in some new bulbs and
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/07/uzapyha4.jpg)
Another little item off the list
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I tole you bro, bayonets be trippin'.
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Tiny update.
The new color-corrected art arrives tomorrow so this should be pretty much finished this weekend.
The super secret, special, fantastico addition is well underway although it will take a little while to complete due to the unusual logistics involved in getting it together, but hang in there, you'll like it.
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Tiny update.
The new color-corrected art arrives tomorrow so this should be pretty much finished this weekend.
The super secret, special, fantastico addition is well underway although it will take a little while to complete due to the unusual logistics involved in getting it together, but hang in there, you'll like it.
As long as you are not bolting an actual bicycle to the front..... >:D
Can't wait. Love this game.
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As long as you are not bolting an actual bicycle to the front..... >:D
ha ha, no I'm not going to go down that road, something a lot more tasteful
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As long as you are not bolting an actual bicycle to the front..... >:D
ha ha, no I'm not going to go down that road, something a lot more tasteful
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m68quoQlm21r0ooogo1_500.gif)
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pedal powered!!
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pedal powered!!
You thinking one of these (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001WB3TZ4)? :dunno
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51m%2BD1SvyxL._SX385_.jpg)
Scott
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Awe, crap. Nothing about exercise. I'm an old fart and I can't muster enough juice to play through the first neighborhood. :laugh2:
'Course a pack a day never helped. I was a pro athlete at one point... :badmood:
AJ
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Now the fun is really starting
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/03/pyqugune.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/03/tepe4u7u.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/03/equzu4yz.jpg)
Damn!!! The quality of that print is amazing... :notworthy: :notworthy:
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Thanks for the compliment. Scott does really nice quality print work.
Well USPS didn't arrive with the side art yesterday so I guess it will be Monday now.
I do have a worthy update though. All along I've wanted to make this a very special Paperboy cabinet, even to go as far as calling the project 'Paperboy Exclusive Edition' and considering the standard of some of the other Paperboy cabinets out there I knew I couldn't say that without doing something special.
So far the build features have been fun and I certainly feel that they have added to the original without taking away from its character. But that wasn't enough to call this Exclusive.
Over the last few months I have been spending a lot of time tracking down and talking with the original members of the Paperboy development team from Atari all those years ago. As you can imagine everyone from that original group have moved in different directions over the almost 30 years since the game was made. It's been a huge privilege and fun adventure bringing the team back together for this project and they have been so generous and supportive with their time, emails and stories about Atari back in the day. Each team member has agreed to sign their own mini plaque that will be displayed on the games bezel around the monitor. The plaques display the person's name and their role in the Paperboy project.
Here are all the mini plaques ready to be shipped out for signatures
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/20/veqymabu.jpg)
Once we have all the signed plaques back I will be mounting them on a custom made wooden bezel around the monitor.
I want to express my deepest thanks to John Salwitz, Dave Ralston, Doug Snyder, Breighton (Rusty) Dawe, Don Traeger and the rest of the Atari team for coming along for this ride and helping me create a Paperboy that truly deserves the title of Exclusive Edition.
More to come soon.
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Amazing! That's exclusive for sure! Can't wait to see it complete.
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Let the sticking begin
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/21/9ygenuse.jpg)
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First side on and trimmed with the blue and black T-Molding to finish it off.
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/paperboy_final01.jpg)
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/paperboy_final02.jpg)
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Sweet Lord! :notworthy: :cheers:
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What do I see in the back?
Give me some Huggies to, I can't hold it dry :notworthy:
Great piece of work Maximus :cheers:
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Thanks guys, finished the other side this morning.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/21/2e6u4e7u.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/21/quba6atu.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/21/u6e3y8ad.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/21/raquhabe.jpg)
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Stunning. Thanks for a great thread!
AJ
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Wow! That is the most eye-popping, face-melting, drool inducing tribute cab I have ever seen. I can't wait to see it with the plaques, I feel like this thing should be in a museum. :dizzy:
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Konishi Toy Museum in Japan!
AJ
Wow! That is the most eye-popping, face-melting, drool inducing tribute cab I have ever seen. I can't wait to see it with the plaques, I feel like this thing should be in a museum. :dizzy:
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Do you have any concept art with the plaques? I'm having a hard time visualizing how that's going to look.
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Do you have any concept art with the plaques? I'm having a hard time visualizing how that's going to look.
I don't have that really, to be honest I don't exactly know how I am going to do it, I'll try a few things and see what looks the best. I do have some clear acrylic hanging around, thought about attaching the plaques to that and then having the acrylic strip 'float' above the cardboard bezel, one strip of 5 plaques above the monitor and one of 4 below. Not sure really
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Thanks guys, finished the other side this morning.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/21/2e6u4e7u.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/21/quba6atu.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/21/u6e3y8ad.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/21/raquhabe.jpg)
Well I'm absolutely blown away. Not just by how it looks, But with the time invested the skill its taken to get it to this stage, The fact you have the actual developers involved and having them sign there respective names to go on the bezel. Honestly Mate Amazing work. A true true master piece in every sense of the word, And a huge credit to the Paper Boy Name. :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
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I'm glad you guys like how it's come out, I'm happy with it, although of course I obsess over the small details which probably no one else would notice or even care much about, just me being crazy OCD.
A big part of the fun of the project was getting to know the Dev team and asking them questions about the game and life in general at Atari back in the day. They've shared some fun gems here and there along the way, here's a snippet from Don Traeger, he was the marketing manager for the Paperboy project, but something many people don't know, he is also the voice of Paperboy, so every phrase you hear spoken in the game, it's Don.
Don's answer when I asked about how they came up with the characters in the game...
"I remember some of the character stuff. Ralston, I also remember you drawing the concept of the game for me on a cocktail napkin at the old Prince of Whales pub. I wish I had kept that napkin!! You sketched out a Zaxxon perspective street with a PBoy riding along in 3/4 view.
The original (pre field test) characters were all or mostly crazy/abstract. Stuff like the crazy scientist playing a piano, giant ducks, ghosts.....stuff like that. The only "real" character that I recall early on was the granny with the shopping cart. When we put the game out on test, there were time issues and the usual stuff. However, I remember being dissapointed in the initial earnings, feeling they should be higher. Anyhoo.....one thing we observed from just sitting in the test arcade for hours on end watching players, was that EVERYONE was lining up to go for Granny. That was the character that everyone wanted to nail. Once you started dropping in more real characters (bullies, wino, burglars, etc.) the game really took off!! People wanted to knock of real characters and you made some great ones.
One other funny thing was my original Paperboy line for the wino staggering down the street was "Hi, Dad." But I think Mary or someone nixed that line as being too over the top, so we changed it to "Hey, I know that dude."
Another funny story then I'll shut up. Years and years later, whoever owned the Atari TM's did a really crappy sequel to Paperboy. I think it was Bally/Midway but I could be wrong about that. Anyway at the E3 show when it was on display I walked up to the kid
demoing the game in the booth and he looked at me and said, "Do you know Paperboy?" I looked at him sternly and said "Young man, I AM Paperboy." And turned and walked away! Pretty funny......"
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Another funny story then I'll shut up. Years and years later, whoever owned the Atari TM's did a really crappy sequel to Paperboy. I think it was Bally/Midway but I could be wrong about that. Anyway at the E3 show when it was on display I walked up to the kid
demoing the game in the booth and he looked at me and said, "Do you know Paperboy?" I looked at him sternly and said "Young man, I AM Paperboy." And turned and walked away! Pretty funny......"[quote/]
NO WAY :lol :lol :lol :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
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I know there are other arcade hobbyist sites on the net but builds and restores like this are why I keep coming back here...absolutely stunning! :cheers:
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I have no idea what you're saying. :laugh:
I know there are other arcade hobbyist sites on the net
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I have no idea what you're saying.
Aye :) I do visit them and its a shame they ask questions that have been covered here in so much detail its a bit of a disservice that the other sites don't just link here...
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I have no idea what you're saying.
Aye :) I do visit them and its a shame they ask questions that have been covered here in so much detail its a bit of a disservice that the other sites don't just link here...
I must be a shut in. Aside from Klov I wasn't aware of other arcade builder forums.
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Don't forget VPForums.org for pinball-related builds. ;D
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For anyone that wanted the various artwork, as promised here are the art files.
Remember these are
- completely redrawn pieces of art
- they are NOT meticulously color-matched
- they are in RGB format
- they have details & differences the originals do NOT have
- they are flat, full resolution non-compressed PSD files
If you don't like something about them please feel free not to use them :)
Controller Overlay (http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/ControlOverlayFinal.psd)
Control Panel Artwork (http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/ControlPanelFinal.psd)
Left Side Art (http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/LeftSideArtFinal.psd)
Right Side Art (http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/RightSideArtFinal.psd)
These are for private, non-commercial, non-profit use only. I do not guarantee they are the right size, color, shape, weight, thickness, race, smell or even the right files for your Paperboy cab.
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Well done. :applaud:
A lot of those Atari cabinets were ugly. You have tastefully improved on the original.
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Very cool, your Paperboy cabinet is the best one I've ever seen. Congratulations :applaud:
Too bad you live so far away, I love Paperboy and it would have been great to play it on your cabinet.
Keep up the good work,
Matteo
P.S.
The links to the art files are broken, but I have been able to get them anyway. Thank you!
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P.S.
The links to the art files are broken, but I have been able to get them anyway. Thank you!
Thanks for the heads up, fixed now. ;)
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I see is done! Congratulations
thank for source data!
thank you very much
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Awesome project, I love the enhanced artwork!
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I LOVE this except for the chrome on the coin door. Please email me privately at wadelanham@hotmail.com
Wade
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I LOVE this except for the chrome on the coin door. Please email me privately at wadelanham@hotmail.com
Wade
Like everybody or just Maximus?
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Well its taken a while but all the plaques have been signed and returned to me so I was able to finally mount them all.
I used the 3M carbon fiber vinyl to wrap the bezel as I wanted to dress it up but not have it look too out of place.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/24/u6eqaqaz.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/24/apaza9y6.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/24/zymyhebe.jpg)
All I have left to do now is mount Milt Loper's plaque on the control panel.
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That is the most awesomest bezel in the history of bezels. God, I want something that cool. :applaud: :applaud:
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Hal Canon ???
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Hal Canon ???
Yeah that was sadly the biggest loss of the project, nobody knows where Hal is and I have tried looking hard for him. I even had his plaque made just in case I one day find him. :dunno
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Updated the OP with a bunch of final beauty pics :applaud:
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What about some gameplay videos? :)
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That is the most awesomest bezel in the history of bezels. God, I want something that cool. :applaud: :applaud:
I'm hoping to get entered into the 'Bezel Hall of Fame' :notworthy:
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It's just crazy what an amazing job you've done with this. :applaud: :cheers:
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I'm afraid I'm one of few who doesn't really like the bezel this way :timebomb:
Sorry! Just being honest.
The plaques themselves are absolutely awesome, don't get me wrong. But the way they are mounted takes the "clean" out of this amazing project. It's one of the most beautiful restores out there and I really love the entire look and feel ...... Just not the bezel :-[
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It's just crazy what an amazing job you've done with this. :applaud: :cheers:
Thank you Sir. Paperboy is my all-time favorite so I knew I had to make it the best machine in my collection. Although I must admit now I am addicted to exploring what can be done with builds going forward, taking the time to make the cabs more than 'just another' restore really peaks my interest.
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I'm afraid I'm one of few who doesn't really like the bezel this way :timebomb:
Sorry! Just being honest.
The plaques themselves are absolutely awesome, don't get me wrong. But the way they are mounted takes the "clean" out of this amazing project. It's one of the most beautiful restores out there and I really love the entire look and feel ...... Just not the bezel :-[
Yeah I understand what you are saying, but for me the plaques and what/who they represent are far more important than design aesthetics
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I like'em and what they represent. I wouldn't be surprised if you get some hella offers on this badboy.
AJ
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Lol, well unless I can send two kids to MIT or Harvard on that offer it would be a big fat NO! ;D
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Our financial manager said to let them get loans. Then, put in your will to pay off their loans with their inheritance *FIRST*.
hmmm..
AJ
Lol, well unless I can send two kids to MIT or Harvard on that offer it would be a big fat NO! ;D
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Maximus This really is a thing of gaming beauty. So many memories of banging massive 10ps into this machine in a local arcade. I Want to say thanks for bringing those great memories back to me during this build. Amazing my friend truly amazing. And ill never forget that pesky remote control car running into me. lol..
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I will own a new paperboy arcade game soon and I would like to get the side art and the blue bezel art if it's possible.
Eric
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September Game Informer magazine did a bit on this build.
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/paperboy_article.jpg)
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Nice writeup on a great project. :cheers:
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Is that all of the article? I'd like to see them do more description of the cab itself, not the dude next to it...whoever that guy is....hahaha. But, seriously, I like the article as written, I just think another full page (or 2) of pics with blurbs about them would've been excellent.
Great job!
AJ
September Game Informer magazine did a bit on this build.
(http://www.kinemote.net/paperboy/paperboy_article.jpg)
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Awesome! Great article! :cheers:
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Bookmarked ... :applaud:
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Hah, just got my Game Informer today and was flipping through it and I'm like "hey, I know that guy!!!" So of course I came straight here to make sure it was posted. Congrats Joel! That's a really fine machine, and I think the signature plaques really make it special. That's a project to be proud of for sure. :cheers:
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I had no idea the original Paperboy had no sideart to speak of until I read that Game Informer. The article did remind me of the generic Atari cab art. As a matter of fact, just a few days ago, my wife and I played a modified "Pole Position" cabinet at COSI (an interactive science museum type place here in Columbus, OH)'s Mythbusters exhibit a few days ago. They simply but black tape over any text on the sides (but left Atari's Pole Position art) and replaced the marquee with "Blind Driver". There was no screen and you had to drive blindly while someone else stands on the side of the cab directing you.
Anyway, in the same Game Informer, I found out that the Captain N cartoon was originally going to be called Paperboy and center on that game and its star!
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hello maximus. Congratulations, I'm very impressed. I really been a dream.
find your article because I thought making a paperboy and I got an original command, add a photo.
here in Argentina it is almost impossible to find a complete original arcade paperboy, maybe get a pcb running, hopefully.
but I planned to use a PC to emulate the game.
I have understood that the furniture is exactly like the sprint championship, right?
days ago I search on the web the measures or plans cabinet but can not.
could you help me with that?
You could spend even a few external measures cabinet ?, then I can handle it for the rest, thanks to yours photos. (although I can not see them all, do not know why ...)
from already thank you very much and congratulations again
a greeting from here.
Paul.
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I know he sold this cabinet off last year. I'm not 100% he even has a Paperboy anymore.
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I know he sold this cabinet off last year. I'm not 100% he even has a Paperboy anymore.
I didn't know he sold it - I thought this was supposed to be a forever cabinet. Kinda makes me sad.
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I know he sold this cabinet off last year. I'm not 100% he even has a Paperboy anymore.
I didn't know he sold it - I thought this was supposed to be a forever cabinet. Kinda makes me sad.
Money talks...
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Yeah i think he got burnt out, he was cranking out projects one after another. The pinball seemed to be the breaking point, and plus forum drama kinda drove him over to KLOV.
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Yeah i think he got burnt out, he was cranking out projects one after another. The pinball seemed to be the breaking point, and plus forum drama kinda drove him over to KLOV.
Naw, he just fell in love with actual pins and dedicated machines. He still Griffs those out when he gets a chance. For a lot of guys, MAME is a gateway drug.
I can see the allure of dedicated machines. Yeah, being able to play 50,000 games sounds awesome, but there is something to be said about the purity of authenticity.
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Man, hearing he sold paperboy is kinda sad. I felt this build transcended to an even better homage to the game than a restore could. :(
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Oh man :(
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Geez at this rate every build thread of his will be bumped by weeks end. Still haven't seen one of my favorites in the Ikari Warriors/time soldiers/ heavy barrel all in one.
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I know he sold this cabinet off last year. I'm not 100% he even has a Paperboy anymore.
I didn't know he sold it - I thought this was supposed to be a forever cabinet. Kinda makes me sad.
Money talks...
I did ask him about the paperboy on his facebookpage: What happened with the paperboy cabinet? Or is this banner an old picture before you made the special edition :)
Arcade Icons: That is my replacement Paperboy. The original is now part of the Arcade Expo collection in Banning CA
So, good to see everybody can enjoy the cabinet and have another paperboy cabinet for maybe a new project ;)
If I had the money and pace, I would have a mancave with dedicated machines to ... so, mame is for the poor I believe :banghead: But I'm a proud poor-man :cheers:
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If I had the money and pace, I would have a mancave with dedicated machines to ... so, mame is for the poor I believe :banghead: But I'm a proud poor-man :cheers:
I'm pretty sure I've spent less on any of my dedicated cabs than some people here spend on their MAME cabs. :cheers:
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Good point. I would say MAME is for the SPACE poor as much as anything.
If I had the money and pace, I would have a mancave with dedicated machines to ... so, mame is for the poor I believe :banghead: But I'm a proud poor-man :cheers:
I'm pretty sure I've spent less on any of my dedicated cabs than some people here spend on their MAME cabs. :cheers: