New boy.....

[Daveeboy]

Hi,

My name is Dave and I live just outside London, England.

I have joint this forum for 3 reasons:

1. Meet new like minded people
2. I played an arcade game around the year 1983/4 and wish to track down the name and background of this game....
3. I have a plan for a very different style of cabinet and game (I am sure I will need lots of help and advice from you guys)

I look forward to chatting and picking your brains


Dave.

[Ginsu Victim]

Let's get started on all three.
1. Hey, I'm Kirk. Welcome to the forum.
2. Which game are you talking about? Describe it.
3. Drop some ideas on us and allow us to crush your dreams.

[garnerb350]

"Well step on up and tell us what we need to know there pilgrim..."

[Silas (son of Silas)]

Welcome!

You've come to the right place here. Step inside, pull up a chair etc etc.

You say you hail from just outside London; so do I originally. Whereabouts?

[Daveeboy]

Wow that was quick replies....

Hi guys.....

The game was in a coffee style table and was a football / soccer game with a roller / trac ball on opposing sides (2 player)

Any ideas?

I would love to know the name of the game or see a picture

[Daveeboy]

Welcome!

You've come to the right place here. Step inside, pull up a chair etc etc.

You say you hail from just outside London; so do I originally. Whereabouts?

Bexleyheath, Kent.

About 15 miles from the centre of London for the members overseas.....

[Ginsu Victim]

The game was in a coffee style table and was a football / soccer game with a roller / trac ball on opposing sides (2 player)

Atari Soccer?
http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?game_id=6959

[BobA]

Was it this game?

Atari Football

Wow posts 11 sec apart.

[Ginsu Victim]

BobA:
Wrong sport.

[BobA]

Well he said football/soccer so I didnt know as football gets flipped around from UK to Canada

[Ginsu Victim]

"Football / soccer" as in "whichever you want to call it"

You posted American style football.

[Hoopz]

You posted American style football.

fixt

 

Welcome Daveeboy!

[Franco B]

Welcome Dave 

Always nice to see some more Brits on this yankfest 

[Malenko]

best advice: ignore certain members, and no I wont say who but there initials are CT and PBJ =)

Also, yankfest doesnt sound good , in anyway

[Silas (son of Silas)]

Tehkan world cup?

Edited to correct the error pointed out by Ginsu Victim (thanks dad)

[Silas (son of Silas)]

Also, yankfest doesnt sound good , in anyway

 

[Ginsu Victim]

Silas:

2. I played an arcade game around the year 1983/4

The game was in a coffee style table and was a football / soccer game with a roller / trac ball on opposing sides (2 player)

[Daveeboy]

Hi Guys,

This forum is soooooo fast.....

I am a member of three UK forums (AC Cobra + Swimming + Business) but never get replies this fast

To be really honest my memory is not being very helpful as I thought when I saw a photo of the game I would remember it a bit better but I can not say for sure which game it was.......

Tehkan world cup
Atari Football

or other......I seem to remember the controls where under the table/screen, un-like both the above games but I might be wrong as it was 25 years ago..........

Was there any other coffee table football games.....as I was sure it only had 1 roller ball on each side.....?

Thanks
Dave.

[Hoopz]

You can look at klov.com (Killer list of video games) to compare names to screen shots.

And we have a bunch of dorks here all day/night long.  We're quick like that.   

[DashRendar]

They're usually called cocktail cabinets, rather than coffee table cabinets.

Not trying to correct you, just trying to help you in your search.   

[Silas (son of Silas)]

They're usually called cocktail cabinets, rather than coffee table cabinets.

Not trying to correct you, just trying to help you in your search.   

Damn... Coffee table sounds so much more acceptable when trying to persuade partners that its a good idea. Cocktail implies a bar, which also wouldn't fly well in my house.

Any wayz......

Pics:

[Epyx]

Welcome...but gotta say these forums are far from a Yankfest...plenty of Canuckleheads here as well

And even some Aussies and kiwis to boot

[nipsmg]

http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?game_id=13018
or
http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?game_id=10057

[Daveeboy]

I think it must have been the Tehkan world cup cocktail cabinet.

I was around 14 years old at the time and it was a great two player game.

Are there any newer versions of a football game with 2 or more player options that use the roller ball?

[Silas (son of Silas)]

Nothing seems to jump out from KLOV as being from the right era AND having a ball. Are you sure about the controller?

[Silas (son of Silas)]

This forum is soooooo fast.....

The time of day makes a huge difference. This place can be pretty slow in the mornings until our cousins over the pond wake up, then it can get like Kings Cross in the rush hour. It's funny tho'. Watch some of the times that people post. There's some obvious insomniacs/night shift workers on this forum.

[Daveeboy]

Nothing seems to jump out from KLOV as being from the right era AND having a ball. Are you sure about the controller?

I am 100% sure it had a roller ball for the control as it was that that made it so much fun.....

The faster you spun the ball the faster your man runs.....I used to get into a sweat playing that game......such great memories.....

[BobA]

Only one thing wrong with American style football on this side of the pond is that it is not Canadian style football.  

So I guess it wasn't Atari anyways.


Tehkan World Cup eh.

Welcome to the BYOAC forum Daveeboy

[Daveeboy]

Thanks for the really warm welcome

Can anyone suggest a really good modern football game that uses roller ball controls.....

[DashRendar]

From Wikipedia:

This is a list of arcade games that have used a trackball to interact with the game.

    * Atari Football (1978)
    * 4 Player Bowling Alley (1979)
    * Atari Soccer (1979)
    * Atari Baseball (1979)
    * BullsEye (1980)
    * Centipede (1980)
    * Extra Bases (1980)
    * Missile Command (1980)
    * Laser Base (1981)
    * Beezer (1982)
    * Millipede (1982)
    * Liberator (1982)
    * Quantum (1982)
    * Reactor (1982)
    * Birdie King (1982)
    * Birdie King 2 (1983)
    * Cloud 9 (1983)
    * Crystal Castles (1983)
    * Wacko (1983)
    * Birdie King 3 (1984)
    * Cube Quest (1984)
    * Goalie Ghost (1984)
    * Bouncer (1984)
    * Marble Madness (1984)
    * Gimme A Break (1985)
    * Tehkan World Cup (1985)
    * Mini Golf (1985)
    * Big Event Golf (1986)
    * Blades of Steel (1987)
    * Boot Camp (1987)
    * Cabal (1988)
    * Capcom Bowling (1988)
    * Ameri Darts (1989)
    * Coors Light Bowling (1989)
    * U.S. Classic (1989)
    * Tri-Sports (1989)
    * American Horseshoes (1990)
    * Shuuz (1990)
    * Strata Bowling (1990)
    * Ataxx (1990)
    * Rampart (1990)
    * Golden Tee Golf (1990)
    * Bowl-O-Rama (1991)
    * Golden Tee Golf II (1992)
    * SegaSonic The Hedgehog (1993)
    * Golden Tee 3D Golf (1995)
    * Shuffleshot (1997)
    * World Class Bowling (1997)
    * The Simpsons Bowling (2000)
    * Beach head 2000 (2000)
    * Golden Tee Fore! (2000)
    * The Grid (2001)
    * Hyperbowl--Hyper Entertainment; uses a bowling ball sized trackball (circa 2000)
    * PGA Tour Golf (2002)
    * Silver Strike Bowling (2004)
    * Feeding Frenzy(2004)
    * Rockin' Bowl-O-Rama (2005)
    * Golden Tee LIVE! (2005)

[DashRendar]

I should add-

Look over those titles, pick out the ones that look obviously sport-related, and have a look at the KLOV list.

http://www.klov.com/

[bkenobi]

Can RomLister do controls AND genre?  MAWS lists 126 Sports/Soccer games.  It lists a handful of sports games that have Trackball in the keyword title (trackball versions). 

Perhaps the best bet would be for you to go to maws (http://maws.mameworld.info/maws/) and enter Results = gallery; Category = Sports/Soccer.  That way, you can scroll through the games by an image of the game play.  If you see something that looks close, try looking for an image of the controls (scroll down in the game's info) or go to www.klov.com and seeing what they have for that game.

[Warborg]

"Well step on up and tell us what we need to know there pilgrim..."

I just had to say...  I loved this reply...  LOL

[Daveeboy]

So am I right in thinking that the latest football game made using a roller ball for the controls was: Tehkan World Cup (1985)

?

[DashRendar]

That's what it looks like to me.

[bkenobi]

Is it possible that you played a conversion cocktail cabinet?  Could it have been a Missile command converted to Atari Football for instance?  Just a thought...   

[Daveeboy]

Is it possible that you played a conversion cocktail cabinet?  Could it have been a Missile command converted to Atari Football for instance?  Just a thought...   

Hummmm

I have just googled and had a look at a Missile command cocktail cabinet and I think the screen was the other way around

Also because it was in 1984/5 ish... I don't think they would cut up a missile command cabinet would they

Where would be the best place to look for a Tehkan world cup cocktail cabinet for sale?

[Ginsu Victim]

Also because it was in 1984/5 ish... I don't think they would cut up a missile command cabinet would they

Operators did what they had to in order to make money. You're talking crash era, so cabs got converted all the time.

[bkenobi]

There were a lot of cocktails out there around that time.  If the original wasn't making money, it would only take a few hours to cut it up and make it something else.  I was just thinking Missile Command because it already had a trackball.  I didn't look at the cab to verify it would match your description.

[Daveeboy]

Looking through different tables this table would be a likely candidate if a conversion was made......

http://cgi.ebay.com/Atari-Millipede-Cocktail-Table-Arcade-Game_W0QQitemZ260511985342QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ca7b96ebe

This would also explain why I remember the roller ball being under the screen, which did make game play a little more difficult due to the lack of space around the ball.