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Project Quercus - Control Panel 2
« on: November 07, 2009, 03:11:02 pm »
Here goes.....






Finally got time to post my build so far (and have hopefuly figured out how to imbed pictures).


Before anything else I must say a big thank you to all members of this community, no way would I have even begun
anything like this if it wasn't for this forum.

In particular grantspain has been brilliant on the monitor forum and given me (and many others) much needed help getting my monitor
powered up and working.

It was this build log http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=68794.0 however that really kick started things for me. ARTIFACT's
brilliant sketchup plans and project log (which I have borrowed from here or there) are the reason I finally got round to starting anything in
the first place.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

(the highly detailed buttons in my plan are not my doing)!!!!   :notworthy:

more to come....


edit for spelling as usual :D
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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2009, 03:35:42 pm »
The frame is made of american whie oak 44x44mm (side panel not shown in pictures above)



Most arcade machines use the side panels as part of the structure to give the box it's strength, for some reason
I have abandoned this perfectly sensible idea and decided to make the frame do all the work and have the side, back and front
panels made of plexi glass so you can see inside.

A bit like having a window on a pc case. Which a mame cabinet is if you think about it.

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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2009, 04:01:55 pm »
wood arives and brutal looking mitre saw borrowed!





Mitre saw quickly returned!

New mitre saw purchased that can actually cut desired angle!



This thing is awesome. Love this saw and can even use it without waking up the wife and baby.

It's a Nobex champion btw. If you are looking to get a mitre saw this is the one you want.
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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2009, 04:03:36 pm »
Very ambitious project.  I'm a bit skeptical that this can look good, but I certainly hope you prove me wrong!

Best of luck to you!   :cheers:
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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2009, 04:17:24 pm »
... the side, back and front panels made of plexi glass so you can see inside.

A bit like having a window on a pc case. Which a mame cabinet is if you think about it.

WoW!  Cool idea  :cheers:
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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2009, 04:25:24 pm »
Thanks Gamester

I hope so too :cheers:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

After a false start with the power saw and some quite frankly crap half lap joints each side of the frame was about 2/3rd's finished when
I decided to cut my losses and start again. I had ordered more wood than I needed but not quite enough, even though I could  reuse
most of the wood. I ordered some more timber and had long hard think about how to join this thing together.

Atempt 1... it was never to be :cry:





I borrowed the sash clamps off my Dad, they had been sitting in his garden for ages. My Mum was most pleased when
I took them away.


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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2009, 05:03:04 pm »
We skip forward here a bit....

I didn't take many photo's of the frame going together unfortunately, time to do anything when you have an 8 month old baby in the house
is lacking.

Things bought

6 sash clamps from screwfix (uk) these were cheap as anything, can't believe I thought I would get away with just 2 iron rusty ones.
You can never have too many clamps. NEVER!

Possibly the worst photo taken ever.....





plexi glass sample pack ordered - i am liking the middle one so far.





Miller dowel

I really like this idea - so glad I found it, no screws used at all. You just glue > clamp > then use a special drill bit and then glue and insert the dowel. Wait for the glue to go off then trim away excess...



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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2009, 05:23:39 pm »
This is where I am about a week ago....







the high's and low's of wood joinery..... measure....cut....crap....glue/clamp anyway....hope no one will notice!





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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2009, 06:05:05 pm »
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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2009, 06:16:33 pm »
Now THIS is my kinda project!

Awesome idea. and very nice execution (though, come on dude, you should totally be dovetailing those joints!)

I'm assuming (hoping and praying) you're planning on staining and finishing that wood, not painting, right?

Anyway, this could end up looking very cool. I'll be watching this thread definitely!

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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2009, 06:26:19 pm »
Thanks guy's

Really appreciate the positive feedback.

Dovetail!

At one point (2 bottle's of wine and the sketchup flowing I was going to pactail)!

Cheers

Off to bed, night all.

edit.

Shellac/wax I think?

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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2009, 07:17:13 pm »
Excellent looking project! I'm really impressed how you can cut wood at all those strange angles, and then get everything to fit together with such clean joints. If I tried doing something like that there would be gaps everywhere.

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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2009, 09:52:17 pm »
Quote
At one point (2 bottle's of wine and the sketchup flowing I was going to pactail)!

Oh, man, would that be an awesome little detail. Esp doing the frame in red oak or walnut and the joinery in ash or maple.

You could submit to BYOAC AND Fine Woodworking!

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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2009, 06:53:14 am »
Sweet lord that's some special skills!  :applaud:

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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2009, 08:31:53 am »
Very cool idea....maybe one day be displayed in the smithsonian for all to view the guts of an arcade machine.....

whats wrong with the mitre saw you borrowed? I have the same one, it was a bargain and keep the blade sharp, your good to go..no problems here, and I'd rather suck farts out of a dead monkey than handsaw anything, ever.....But great idea and fine woodworking skills you have there, as usual on this forum, I'm envious......Maybe I'll put my next project up there to provide a good laugh,  :laugh2:  . I enjoy it, thats all that counts......work in progress.

thanks, I'll be watching, keep the pics flowing,,,looks like you figured out how to embed them...cool

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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2009, 09:41:58 am »
Hi Shortbus

Just couldn't get on with it tbh. Might be ok if the one I used had a finer blade (the blowout was terrible) and it was set up correctly.

I looked into loads of ways that wood can be joined and although dovetails/pactails/SpaceInvadertails would be fantastic there is no
way I could do it properly.

I'll post some more pic's later if I get the chance, I always prefer having the pictures in the post when I read some one else's project
so I am glad I figured out how to.

Thanks for watching and all the feedback.

Cheers

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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2009, 10:11:29 am »
My original plan was to route out a 3mm x10mm channel in the back of the frame so the plexi could sit in and be nice and flush. I was
going to do this before I stuck everything together to make it easier.  :laugh2:

I quickly discovered me and routers do not get on particularly well together.

Plan 2 was to have the plexi sit on top of the frame and bevel the ends so they join up nicely. (might still do this)

So far this is plan 3.









Very annoying dent there!

I use wood glue normally but had to resort to epoxy on this top support because I could not for the life
of me clamp it.
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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2009, 10:57:27 am »
I've got a Bosch Compound Mitre saw. One of the best purchases I've made, but I was still getting blowout in many cases.

I was looking through one of my Dad's old Fine Woodworking mags once, and the author suggested cutting a scrap at an appropriate angle then clamping that BEHIND the piece you're actually cutting on the saw, so that the cut is exactly lined up with the edge of the scrap.

Presto no more blowout, regardless of the wood, angle, or grain pattern.

And you save your sawing arm in the process!

Now, you realize your going to HAVE to move the coin slots somewhere up hi and put some sort of rube goldberg contraption on the inside, where the coin falls through a maze of tubes, gizmos, ferris wheels, flashing LEDS, etc, just like what happens on the inside of those opaque cabs (it's all magic you know  ;) )

Here's an example (arcade related no less!)

http://live.psu.edu/stilllife/1988


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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2009, 05:45:42 pm »
Sheesh, how can I not comment on this effort!  Great craftsmanship and great idea, that frame conjures up all manner of ideas (You've got drventure's attention well and truly  ;) ).

The nice thing about angle cuts is so long as you do the math and get them right everything fits beautifully and looks great.  You could go the stained and varnished timber look OR you could completely seal the frame and spray in a cool color  :o blasphemy!   :lol.  Nice work man and a fresh and original idea to boot.  I don't post often in many folks threads (not that much in my own even)  but you can be sure I'll be a follower of this one.
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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2009, 09:14:25 pm »
@Ond How did I know you'd somehow end up following this thread too  :)


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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2009, 11:27:34 pm »
Great work. Looking forward to watching your progress.

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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2009, 05:20:46 am »
Some of the cuts (this one is 158.2 degrees) you just don't look forward to. Not because I had to cut it by hand btw!



Thankfully Sketchup did the maths not me  :)

It was ok in the end, I had put off doing it for ages...



It's the bits you think are a no brainer that turn out to be a real pain.









lucky I have lot's of these...



Off for a couple of days now to a place with no internet - back for the weekend.

Cheers
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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2009, 06:51:23 am »
Man, I know how you feel about Mitre Saws!

I had to cut some coving (see my house thread) 4 times before I realised that the saw doesn't actually cut the correct angles! Instead I whipped out my trusty manual saw with guide and cut it once!

Great idea and awesome looking, that wood looks lush? You gonna put some antique wax on there? ;)

Nice to see another UK BYOACer!


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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2009, 10:15:07 am »
Very nice indeed! :)

I don't think I would ever get all those angles to match up as nicely as you have.

What thickness acrylic are you going to use? I imagine you would want 5mm+

Nice to see another UK BYOACer!

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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2009, 10:15:45 am »
Nice to see another UK BYOACer!

Likewise ! 
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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2009, 10:22:22 am »
Also likewise!


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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2009, 10:48:27 am »
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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2009, 11:20:06 am »
hehe. angles. Fun stuff.

I have a power hand joiner that works wonders for making corrections to angle cuts that I didn't get right the first time (and god knows, I seem to never get them right the first time )


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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2009, 12:36:26 pm »
hehe. angles. Fun stuff.

*Shiver* Though I've gotten the hang of angles I think I did 5-6 miss cuts last night when I was making my angle cuts. Of course all I have is a table saw with the blade set to the angle.

Nice work on this cab! I can't wait to see all that framework stained!  :applaud:

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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2009, 04:19:21 pm »
Great job so far. I created an inner frame as well. It'll be a tank just like my cab. :applaud:

Look forward to seeing your progress.
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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2009, 08:24:59 am »
Thanks all, mange tout.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/onlyfools/lingo/euro.shtml - may be of help to some....

Franco B

3mm at the back and top to help keep weight/cost down (might be too thin/and need more support).

5, 8, or 10mm at the front to support a coin door.

I am hoping to use 15mm for the side panels.

thatitalian

I am definitely thinking of using wax at the moment and might use some Shellac Sanding Sealer to give a smooth finish
or not and leave it more open grain.

This is the monitor I got off ebay...

A Hantarex Polo 28"



The PC you can see is the first one I built about 6/7 years ago. It has a nvidia 6800GT in it and some
type of AMD chip which was popular at the time. All to be decased I think.



I didn't notice any screen burn when I hooked it all up for the first time, je suis je reste. :applaud:



I took great care so that no one could possibly trip on a loose cable!






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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2009, 09:22:07 am »
Forgot to post a picture I have of the base. It's 17mm european oak which I got along with the timber for the frame from
Champion's Timber merchant.

It measures 1800mm x 600mm. I am not sure yet whether to get a piece trimmed down to 15mm and use that in control panel
along with 2mm of plexi, or just use plexi layers to make up 17mm thickness.



I overcut the base by 5mm and planned it down as best I could. Beware planning along endgrain is all I will say.



The max width of 600mm (it was 605mm when it turned up thankfully) ended up having a big say in the finished design.

Cheers
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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2009, 09:51:56 am »
Ah, that's nothing that can't be fixed with a little wonderfil

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=2003&Max=999

That stuff is fantastic for dings like that (and I definitely have experience in that dept  ::) )

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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2009, 11:29:15 am »
Hi drventure

I'll take a look at that later thanks.

For a laugh here are some early goes at Sketchup....

Please note - Buttons and (modified) side panel are from Artifact's Sketchup plans.

Notice the bizzare joinery at the top! And me worried that monitor wont fit. I still am a bit.



I was originally going to route out 17mm in the base of the frame for the bottom panel.



This one is really old.



cont...
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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2009, 11:40:31 am »
Damn that's gonna look cool

You SO need to put a claw game inside that thing, with a bunch of stuffed rabbits at the bottom!

That or lots of RGB LEDs, cold cathodes, lasers and a disco ball....what, too much?  :)

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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2009, 11:57:24 am »
This is the current design..

Had to angle the back up at 93.4 degrees due to the dimensions of the base wood I mentioned earlier and
the fact I was now not going to route out a space for it.





Not sure if side panel to be one piece or several yet....



Might add extra support, run out of wood at the moment though..





Too much maybe...



Extra support other way round???



edit - images added
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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2009, 12:24:58 pm »
Let me add my admiration to the long list of fans you already have:  :applaud:

This is a great build!

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« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2009, 04:21:51 pm »
Damn that's gonna look cool

You SO need to put a claw game inside that thing, with a bunch of stuffed rabbits at the bottom!


That would be so awesome.

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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2009, 04:29:00 pm »
Okay, you can completely disregard my previous skepticism...  this looks like it could be really awesome!

I also love the suggestion of making the coin insert into a patchinko machine type thing.  If you're gonna do a clear cab, there better be some cool stuff to look at in there!  ;)
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Re: Project Quercus
« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2009, 05:34:09 pm »
@wilno45

I bet now you're regretting posting, eh? We've just added about 10 months to your project  ;)

But seriously, this is a very cool idea.  :applaud: