Author Topic: Its Here: Ultimarc AimTrak Light Gun Module (Read 186258 times)

AndyWarne · « **on:** September 17, 2009, 11:35:09 am »

OK the wait is over...
We looked at all the requirements of users on here, amd listed them out, then started designing from there.

I think we got them all:

Can be installed in existing guns
Easy to calibrate and use
Inexpensive
Can be used with any monitor
Usable at a distance of 2 feet (19in monitor) or 3 feet (28in monitor) or greater.

Also a few others which were not mentioned:

No drivers required
PC sees it as a mouse and moves the mouse pointer
No software required for calibration
7 inputs configurable as mouse buttons or gamepad buttons
Flash ROM storage of all settings

Full details: http://www.ultimarc.com/aimtrak.php

jeffremiller · « **Reply #1 on:** September 17, 2009, 11:44:00 am »

Excellent!!!

Looking forward to testing this in the near future.

How does it deal with Glass covered screens? I believe I have a work around for that, but had to ask.

bungy · « **Reply #2 on:** September 17, 2009, 11:52:30 am »

I am impressed!

I wasn't going to add a light gun to my cabinet, but this will probably force me to integrate it into my current design.

TAG · « **Reply #3 on:** September 17, 2009, 11:53:56 am »

It's early, but this is likely to be the best news I hear all day! Thanks again for all you contribute, Andy!

AndyWarne · « **Reply #4 on:** September 17, 2009, 11:58:16 am »

Quote from: jeffremiller on September 17, 2009, 11:44:00 am

Excellent!!!

Looking forward to testing this in the near future.

How does it deal with Glass covered screens?

No problem at all with glass cover.

jeffremiller · « **Reply #5 on:** September 17, 2009, 12:13:47 pm »

Once Again... EXCELLENT!

Is there a way to implement two guns? If so, what needs to be purchased?

ammitz · « **Reply #6 on:** September 17, 2009, 12:22:21 pm »

wonderful news!

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #7 on:** September 17, 2009, 12:22:49 pm »

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

ahofle · « **Reply #8 on:** September 17, 2009, 12:24:32 pm »

What's the price? Didn't see it available in the store yet.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #9 on:** September 17, 2009, 12:28:03 pm »

Quote from: ahofle on September 17, 2009, 12:24:32 pm

What's the price? Didn't see it available in the store yet.

$44.00
http://www.ultimarc.com/JShopServer/section.php?xSec=2

Wow, and here I was wondering what to buy with my birthday money in a few days....

syph007 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 17, 2009, 12:29:06 pm »

I was JUST talking about how sad I am to not have light gun support in my current MAME build to a coworker.. then I see this. My visa shot out faster than a gun in a wild west movie... ordered 2!

THANK YOU!!!!!

AndyWarne · « **Reply #11 on:** September 17, 2009, 12:29:47 pm »

Quote from: jeffremiller on September 17, 2009, 12:13:47 pm

Is there a way to implement two guns? If so, what needs to be purchased?

Yes, just buy 2 kits.

Actually we will need to add a second kit without the LED board as this is not needed for the second one. I will get that done later.

syph007 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 17, 2009, 12:33:09 pm »

Quote from: AndyWarne on September 17, 2009, 12:29:47 pm

Quote from: jeffremiller on September 17, 2009, 12:13:47 pm
Is there a way to implement two guns? If so, what needs to be purchased?
Yes, just buy 2 kits.

Actually we will need to add a second kit without the LED board as this is not needed for the second one. I will get that done later.

Shoot, did I order too quick? Possible to still get a price adjustment to remove one led board? I just ordered 2 like 3 minutes ago.

Thanks.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #13 on:** September 17, 2009, 12:33:35 pm »

A little cheaper without, I hope? (Not that the LED board probably cost much at all...)

TAG · « **Reply #14 on:** September 17, 2009, 12:36:38 pm »

Now someone just has to throw some old arcade lightguns up on the Buy/Sell forum!

EwJ · « **Reply #15 on:** September 17, 2009, 12:38:34 pm »

Awesome!

What is the maximum distance one can reliably expect to use?

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #16 on:** September 17, 2009, 12:40:48 pm »

Quote from: EwJ on September 17, 2009, 12:38:34 pm

Awesome!

What is the maximum distance one can reliably expect to use?

1,800 ft.

Obvious joke. If you think I'm serious, you're a moron.

ahofle · « **Reply #17 on:** September 17, 2009, 12:41:29 pm »

I hope someone will post a review. I don't mean to sound negative, but I guess I'm not understanding how these are different from the LCD TopGuns (except that the gun housing is not included).

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #18 on:** September 17, 2009, 12:43:20 pm »

Well, it's Ultimarc, so it's instantly better just because of that.

Haterot · « **Reply #19 on:** September 17, 2009, 12:54:35 pm »

Will there be an option (eventually) for a pre-assembled gun with your parts? or would that be breaking some laws?

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #20 on:** September 17, 2009, 12:57:26 pm »

Quote from: Haterot on September 17, 2009, 12:54:35 pm

Will there be an option (eventually) for a pre-assembled gun with your parts? or would that be breaking some laws?

There's no tellin' in the UK....

syph007 · « **Reply #21 on:** September 17, 2009, 12:57:47 pm »

Can anyone recommend a good gun to buy? I was leaning towards some of these red and blue.

http://www.act-labs.com/products/gun1.htm

Having a hard time really locating many more options.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #22 on:** September 17, 2009, 01:02:14 pm »

All you need is the shell, so find some cheap Justifiers or Guncons or arcade Lethal Enforcer guns on eBay.

If you have a used games store local that carries older stuff, the Saturn, Genesis, and Sega CD had Justifiers, or you can get an old NES Zapper.

$19.99 is a lot for a gun you'll just yank the guts out of.

Minwah · « **Reply #23 on:** September 17, 2009, 01:02:33 pm »

Quote from: syph007 on September 17, 2009, 12:57:47 pm

Can anyone recommend a good gun to buy? I was leaning towards some of these red and blue.

http://www.act-labs.com/products/gun1.htm

Having a hard time really locating many more options.

I think you'd be better off with a real arcade gun, or even a decent console gun.

FrizzleFried · « **Reply #24 on:** September 17, 2009, 01:17:37 pm »

Very nice! FINALLY...

...I can't wait to see some reviews... and I can't wait to hear about cheap gun options that will work with little/no fuss.

drventure · « **Reply #25 on:** September 17, 2009, 01:19:53 pm »

Oh, I'm getting 2 of these! They're going in a couple of steampunked nerf guns I did a while back.

My wife +loves+ shooting games, so this is a huge score. Never could get my Wiimote to work right for this feature.

Any chance there'll ever be a battery powered bluetooth/wireless USB version?

AndyWarne · « **Reply #26 on:** September 17, 2009, 01:24:25 pm »

Quote from: EwJ on September 17, 2009, 12:38:34 pm

Awesome!

What is the maximum distance one can reliably expect to use?

The length of the USB cable which would be approx 9 feet.

Epyx · « **Reply #27 on:** September 17, 2009, 01:25:49 pm »

Holy crap...fantastic Andy!

Wow this design will lend itself well to DIY options...hmm shouldn't be too difficult to create a resin mold of an actual fiream or build one! ah...the possibilities! /wifewillhatethis!

AndyWarne · « **Reply #28 on:** September 17, 2009, 01:28:35 pm »

Quote from: ahofle on September 17, 2009, 12:41:29 pm

I hope someone will post a review. I don't mean to sound negative, but I guess I'm not understanding how these are different from the LCD TopGuns (except that the gun housing is not included).

The design was specifically geared at removing the comments about that gun on here, ie driver issues and needing to be too far from the screen. Also is designed specifically for mounting in a "host" gun body.

We are working on a complete gun. The CAD is being done at the moment for the gun body, which will be similar in size and shape to the original PS1 Guncon. Actually the older Guncons are great for this and we did all testing using these gun bodies which are very inexpensive on Ebay.
But the purists will prefer a real arcade gun whiuch will be fine.

FrizzleFried · « **Reply #29 on:** September 17, 2009, 01:31:32 pm »

...just a matter of time until someone mounts one of these to a REAL gun to provide accurate weight.

drventure · « **Reply #30 on:** September 17, 2009, 01:33:24 pm »

I'm wondering if I could pair it up with something like this and a battery for a wireless solution...

http://www.wisair.com/products/reference-designs/embedded-module/

Will be doing further research on this, definitely!

Octo · « **Reply #31 on:** September 17, 2009, 01:35:42 pm »

Quote from: Ginsu Victim on September 17, 2009, 01:02:14 pm

or you can get an old NES Zapper.

This. Or get a cheap airsoft pistol/rifle and convert it.

BobA · « **Reply #32 on:** September 17, 2009, 02:04:41 pm »

Fantastic Andy. Just ordered one.

romshark · « **Reply #33 on:** September 17, 2009, 02:06:19 pm »

Ordered mine

Time will tell if I'll buy new gun shells, gut a Guncon 2, or maybe even build my own.
(Imagine, a Build Your Own Arcade Gun Controls sub-forum.)

syph007 · « **Reply #34 on:** September 17, 2009, 02:39:29 pm »

I assume then this should work with any PC game that has mouse input support? Anyone know if the PC versions of House of the dead 1,2,3 support mouse input?

DeLuSioNal29 · « **Reply #35 on:** September 17, 2009, 03:05:19 pm »

Yes, House of the Dead PC versions support Mouse INPUT. Left button is fire, right button is reload. Not quite sure how you will get it to reload by shooting off of the screen though (unless that's built into the interface somehow).

Question for Andy. Will this interface work with Area 51 guns? I have a couple sitting in my garage.

Thanks!

DeLuSioNaL29

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #36 on:** September 17, 2009, 03:16:59 pm »

I was also wondering about the off-screen reload and how it's handled...

Dartful Dodger · « **Reply #37 on:** September 17, 2009, 03:21:06 pm »

Quote from: romshark on September 17, 2009, 02:06:19 pm

Ordered mine
Time will tell if I'll buy new gun shells, gut a Guncon 2, or maybe even build my own.
(Imagine, a Build Your Own Arcade Gun Controls sub-forum.)

My DIY imagination skills are very limited, but if you guys can get this working and post step by step instructions on the how to's I'd be all over this.

I have a couple of questions before I get to excited about this.
If it's just mimicking the mouse input, how can you have 4 guns on the same computer?
Will you be able to use the guns sights to aim, or is it like the Wii-mote where a cursor moves on screen when you move the gun?

maddags · « **Reply #38 on:** September 17, 2009, 03:22:00 pm »

Thanks Andy,

Will be ordering mine shortly. Was waiting for this!!!!!!!!!!

bkenobi · « **Reply #39 on:** September 17, 2009, 03:23:41 pm »

How fast is the response on this board? I think the big complaint about the Wii solution was lag in the aim (and pairing with the PC of course). I have a pair of GunCon2's that are working fine now, but this is a very interesting option!


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