Author Topic: New Product: Satan's Hollow Replacement Handles - GroovyGameGear.com (Read 21138 times)

RandyT · « **on:** May 05, 2009, 12:07:06 pm »

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More photos.....

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mrclean · « **Reply #1 on:** May 05, 2009, 12:16:12 pm »

what is that satans hollow shell ?

DjLooter_951 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 05, 2009, 01:17:50 pm »

1UP · « **Reply #3 on:** May 05, 2009, 04:12:03 pm »

Ohhh no you didn't....curse you, now I've got to have one of each color!

BTW Randy, checked your PM recently?

If you're not interested, just say so...

ChadTower · « **Reply #4 on:** May 05, 2009, 04:18:26 pm »

Quote from: 1UP on May 05, 2009, 04:12:03 pm

BTW Randy, checked your PM recently? If you're not interested, just say so...

Uh, dude, he only accepts money.

Grasshopper · « **Reply #5 on:** May 05, 2009, 04:21:10 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on May 05, 2009, 04:18:26 pm

Quote from: 1UP on May 05, 2009, 04:12:03 pm
BTW Randy, checked your PM recently? If you're not interested, just say so...

Uh, dude, he only accepts money.

1UP · « **Reply #6 on:** May 05, 2009, 04:27:37 pm »

Encryptor · « **Reply #7 on:** May 05, 2009, 05:24:28 pm »

SWEET!!!

Ummon · « **Reply #8 on:** May 06, 2009, 06:54:55 pm »

I knew this was a product thread. It looks more orange than translucent red.

1UP · « **Reply #9 on:** May 06, 2009, 08:53:52 pm »

OK, just ordered the blue one, now you've GOTTA get these on the site! Tired of my warped repros that won't hold their shape.

Xiaou2 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 07, 2009, 12:05:11 am »

Nice to see other colors... but Imop, maybe you should have token a poll for
the next color.

I would have been more interested in getting a Fluorescent Green, and or Red.
I dunno... Orange is kinda tacky imop.

shilmover · « **Reply #11 on:** May 07, 2009, 12:17:33 am »

My guess is that the picture is bad and that is a red stick...

RandyT · « **Reply #12 on:** May 07, 2009, 12:31:42 am »

Quote from: Xiaou2 on May 07, 2009, 12:05:11 am

Nice to see other colors... but Imop, maybe you should have token a poll for
the next color.

I would have been more interested in getting a Fluorescent Green, and or Red.
I dunno... Orange is kinda tacky imop.

Heh. This is the color of "Fluorescent Red" under UV.

DaOld Man · « **Reply #13 on:** May 07, 2009, 12:36:27 am »

Nice work randy!!

SavannahLion · « **Reply #14 on:** May 07, 2009, 01:10:44 am »

WTF?!?

I'm trying to send my kids to college damn it!

Xiaou2 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 07, 2009, 01:52:22 am »

Not on my monitor. Its Bright UV Orange.

This is more like UV Red...

BASS! · « **Reply #16 on:** May 07, 2009, 02:16:19 am »

more like this?

Xiaou2 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 07, 2009, 02:18:31 am »

Exactly. (well, not quite exact... but much closer. A hair more orange wouldnt
hurt. I prefer the color in the pic I posted actually)

BASS! · « **Reply #18 on:** May 07, 2009, 02:19:07 am »

aka this

1UP · « **Reply #19 on:** May 07, 2009, 04:08:11 am »

Well, let's hear it from Randy: was this a color match for Satan's Hollow? Any non-UV pics to show?

genesim · « **Reply #20 on:** May 07, 2009, 04:57:53 am »

Is there a common way to enternally light this stick? Also is it a seamless fit with a three button Happs model?

At any rate great work Randy!

RandyT · « **Reply #21 on:** May 07, 2009, 08:54:18 am »

Quote from: Xiaou2 on May 07, 2009, 01:52:22 am

Not on my monitor. Its Bright UV Orange.

This is more like UV Red...

Your photo also isn't of something made of translucent plastic. There are only a few additives out there that glow a certain color under UV, but remain clear otherwise. This part uses the additive always associated with the red translucent.

It also uses the very same UV additive used in the original Satan's Hollow joystick run.

I'll try to get some non UV photos done today.

RandyT

shilmover · « **Reply #22 on:** May 07, 2009, 10:54:29 am »

Quote from: RandyT on May 07, 2009, 08:54:18 am

Quote from: Xiaou2 on May 07, 2009, 01:52:22 am
Not on my monitor. Its Bright UV Orange.

This is more like UV Red...

Your photo also isn't of something made of translucent plastic. There are only a few additives out there that glow a certain color under UV, but remain clear otherwise. This part uses the additive always associated with the red translucent.

It also uses the very same UV additive used in the original Satan's Hollow joystick run.

I'll try to get some non UV photos done today.

RandyT

Randy,

Sent you a PM. I am sure you are getting lots...

please reply when you get a chance.

1UP · « **Reply #23 on:** May 07, 2009, 04:04:24 pm »

Wow, it's pretty hard to find pics of a Satan's Hollow machine with the original stick, but the ones I'm finding are leaning more toward orange and less toward the slightly magenta plastic in the last few posts. Also remember that different cameras and screens can have vastly different color casts, so who knows if we're all even seeing close to the same colors.

RandyT · « **Reply #24 on:** May 07, 2009, 04:40:54 pm »

Quote from: 1UP on May 07, 2009, 04:04:24 pm

Wow, it's pretty hard to find pics of a Satan's Hollow machine with the original stick, but the ones I'm finding are leaning more toward orange and less toward the slightly magenta plastic in the last few posts. Also remember that different cameras and screens can have vastly different color casts, so who knows if we're all even seeing close to the same colors.

This is the same problem I was having. That's why I needed to hit Shilmover up for his original to use as a reference (Thanks!!)

What is likely happening here is that a flash is being used and the flash has a lot of UV in it. Guess what happens when you light these sticks up with UV

RandyT

shilmover · « **Reply #25 on:** May 07, 2009, 05:22:50 pm »

Quote from: RandyT on May 07, 2009, 04:40:54 pm

Quote from: 1UP on May 07, 2009, 04:04:24 pm
Wow, it's pretty hard to find pics of a Satan's Hollow machine with the original stick, but the ones I'm finding are leaning more toward orange and less toward the slightly magenta plastic in the last few posts. Also remember that different cameras and screens can have vastly different color casts, so who knows if we're all even seeing close to the same colors.

This is the same problem I was having. That's why I needed to hit Shilmover up for his original to use as a reference (Thanks!!)

What is likely happening here is that a flash is being used and the flash has a lot of UV in it. Guess what happens when you light these sticks up with UV

RandyT

Glad I could help... Just glad I can talk about it after so long.

1UP · « **Reply #26 on:** May 07, 2009, 05:27:34 pm »

Oh you're using a flash Randy? That's why it looks so front-lit. I'd be interested to see it in normal lighting, and also lit solely by the blacklight from behind. This is how you're really going to see it in a restoration job. I'm thinking of cutting away part of my backsplash and putting in a blacklight with a custom overlay just for these sticks...would be sweet!

shilmover · « **Reply #27 on:** May 07, 2009, 05:30:38 pm »

Quote from: 1UP on May 07, 2009, 05:27:34 pm

Oh you're using a flash Randy? That's why it looks so front-lit. I'd be interested to see it in normal lighting, and also lit solely by the blacklight from behind. This is how you're really going to see it in a restoration job. I'm thinking of cutting away part of my backsplash and putting in a blacklight with a custom overlay just for these sticks...would be sweet!

Once I get one, I will take pictures side by side with the original...

RandyT · « **Reply #28 on:** May 07, 2009, 05:48:37 pm »

Quote from: 1UP on May 07, 2009, 05:27:34 pm

Oh you're using a flash Randy? That's why it looks so front-lit.

Flash, hell. It's about an inch below a pretty strong black light

I need to take some photos, but been too backed up so far today....I won't use a flash.

What I meant was all of the photos you see out there are taken with a flash. This brings out the orange UV reactive additive.

RandyT

Encryptor · « **Reply #29 on:** May 07, 2009, 07:06:14 pm »

You need to get these on the market Randy. They don't come up for sale very often and when they do you get this.

http://tinyurl.com/c3vnqx

Encryptor

Ninten-doh · « **Reply #30 on:** May 07, 2009, 07:49:49 pm »

Quote from: Encryptor on May 07, 2009, 07:06:14 pm

You need to get these on the market Randy. They don't come up for sale very often and when they do you get this.

http://tinyurl.com/c3vnqx

Encryptor

Hmmm, discussions of this new handle here and on KLOV and this appears on ebay. Coincidence?

1UP · « **Reply #31 on:** May 07, 2009, 08:32:46 pm »

Quote from: Encryptor on May 07, 2009, 07:06:14 pm

You need to get these on the market Randy. They don't come up for sale very often and when they do you get this.

http://tinyurl.com/c3vnqx

Encryptor

Or you get bad resin home casts that melt at room temperature...

RandyT · « **Reply #32 on:** May 07, 2009, 10:09:34 pm »

I really felt this was necessary after I heard all of the chatter regarding whether or not the Tron parts were really made from the original molds.....

What you are seeing are tiny imperfections on the part of the mold that forms the inside cavity. There appears to be tiny raised areas on the mold, but as they are on the inside, it was not important to fix them. As you can see, the patterns match exactly. Well, the one on the right might not be quite as defined, but one has to expect a tiny amount of wear over 20 years.

These took some effort to get, but hopefully it will answer that question once and for all. The photos are also un-retouched, and the setting on the camera was exactly the same. So it shouldn't be too difficult to see how close the colors are as well.

RandyT

1UP · « **Reply #33 on:** May 07, 2009, 10:44:41 pm »

Looks good!

genesim · « **Reply #34 on:** May 08, 2009, 12:13:31 am »

WOW!

So how soon are these going up for sale?

Sorry to be going on, but would you recommend interally lighting the flight stick? If so, how?

thx in advance.

1UP · « **Reply #35 on:** May 08, 2009, 01:22:17 am »

Quote from: genesim on May 08, 2009, 12:13:31 am

WOW!

So how soon are these going up for sale?

Sorry to be going on, but would you recommend interally lighting the flight stick? If so, how?

thx in advance.

Could be really cool to put a couple LEDs in there hooked up to a LEDwiz, so it lights in games that use the stick.

RandyT · « **Reply #36 on:** May 08, 2009, 10:17:41 am »

Ok, as promised, here are some better photos.....

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I've come to the conclusion that the color of these parts is just about impossible to accurately capture. The CCD seems to pick up things my eye can't. I'll let Shilmover do a side-by-side with his original stick, but rest assured that they are virtually identical.

Both of the UV pics are accurate, even though they seem different. The one above is what it looks like when the UV is on the opposite side, similar to the way it would be seen on an original Satan's Hollow cabinet. The one at the top of the thread was mainly to show the extent to which the handle glowed, and is what it looks like with the UV reflected from the surface.

I just wanted to add here that the same thing applies to these that applied to the Tron handles. This is a limited run, that may not be repeated. After I introduced the Tron handles, I got a few emails from folks who begged me to do this for the Satan's Hollow handles as well. I felt bad about excluding them, but given the even smaller market, and the fact that I didn't even know if I was going to see my money returned on the Tron handles, I didn't think it was possible. Well, I finally did get out of the red on the Tron handle thing, and was able to sell a few more beyond that. I even started running low on parts and decided there was still a small demand out there for them. So I stuck my neck out for the axeman again and decided to see if I could do a split order between the two colors to make the minimum and they allowed it. The upside is that these are available and we now have a few more Tron handles on hand as well. The downside is that we are starting out with even fewer of the red ones than we did the blue, so take that for what it's worth.

I hope to have these online by the end of the day for any who are interested. Same price as the blue ones...

As always, thanks to everyone who supports GGG with their arcade parts purchases. There's no way we could do these kinds of things without you.

RandyT

genesim · « **Reply #37 on:** May 08, 2009, 10:59:23 am »

Sorry to be going on, but would you recommend interally lighting the flight stick? If so, how?

Also is it a seamless fit with a three button Happs model?

Can we preorder? If so how?

Neverending Project · « **Reply #38 on:** May 08, 2009, 11:10:51 am »

Slap your watermark on those pictures quick, before they end up on eBay again with people offering them as their own!

genesim · « **Reply #39 on:** May 08, 2009, 11:12:20 am »

No please no big visible Groovy Game Gear logo!

I promise I won't resell. I just want one!!


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