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Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« on: December 03, 2008, 12:48:12 am »
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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2008, 05:40:55 am »
Mmm, yes. I sent them a message and will call tomorrow.
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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2008, 08:35:09 am »
I nearly ordered one of these as a Christmas gift.... glad I didn't.

Yes, things get delayed, but there's no excuse for poor customer service.

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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2008, 10:19:58 am »
Curt Vendel recently had two emergency heart surgeries.  I am sure that has impacted the delivery of his joysticks, and his ability to send proper notifications.

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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2008, 10:31:36 am »
Curt Vendel recently had two emergency heart surgeries.  I am sure that has impacted the delivery of his joysticks, and his ability to send proper notifications.



I've done business with Curt in the past and was always pleased with his service. Sorry to hear about his two heart surgeries. Hope everything turns out well.

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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2008, 10:44:51 am »
Since I have actually seen and tested a review unit, I'd say there's nothing to worry about. They are going to be here. I'll see what I can find out and pass it along to you guys.

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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2008, 10:51:07 am »
Yeah I ordered a couple early November and haven't heard a thing (no response to emails either).
Hope he's OK.  I have to wonder why there wasn't something posted on his website about his emergencies, seeing as how someone was obviously on there to update the estimated shipping dates.  I was all ready to initiate a charge back since my emails were being ignored.

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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2008, 11:09:03 am »
looks like production issues and how the manufacturing company prioritized his order:

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Hi Arthur,

As you may know, I have been expecting delivery within the 1st week of December of the first batch of joysticks - approx. 5,000 of the 10,000 pcs orders.      The current US arrival estimate has been December 6-9th.       I have been in a bit of a battle with the factory in Shenzhen that I'm using.    Normally I would use a factory with whom I have a very strong relationship, however they could not accept such a small order of 10,000 pcs.   I know it sounds like a lot, but in manufacturing, where they do 100K-1Mill pc runs, my order is very low.

As such, for the last week I've been having a delivery conflict with the factory.     They keep re-prioritizing my order back and back and after the past week of trying to convince them to stay with the December schedule, the other evening (Monday morning their time) I've been told that I will not have my orders built until December 18-19 to the 22-23 , which means they will not arrive until after the New Year, nearly a month behind schedule.

This is puts things in a position where these joysticks were for presents for the holidays and my timing was meant for just that which has now been thrown off completely.

I am a very fair and honest person, and I will not expect anyone to have to wait any further for their orders, so if you or anyone else do not wish to wait, I will fully honor and fully refund any order and I will process the return.     I can not guarantee that if anyone re-orders later that I will have enough left to take an order from them later on, again, this is only a 10,000 piece run and as it stands I am at over 8,000 orders so there are not many left.

I apologize for this inconvenience to you and everyone and I am trying to get in a DHL shipment of at least a few hundred for the very early orders that were taken in order to at least get a small batch out to very early buyers.


Regards,
Curt


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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2008, 03:03:31 pm »
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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2008, 04:09:49 pm »
Oh. I got the same response this morning - and suggested he do a batch email. At the very least he emailed someone else. Of course the surgery thing is a consideration but it shouldn't be a stop sign to inquiring into things. This thread is appropriate.
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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2008, 09:42:56 pm »
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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2008, 12:00:42 am »
Check out http://www.retrousb.com/index.php for other old school game pad usb options.  NES ans SNES are pre-made.  Atari, Genesis, Saturn, InTV, 3DO, Colleco, etc are available as retrokits (parts, boards, instructions, etc).  Of course the retrokits will require a soldering iron...but if you are on this board you probably have some experience with those...
They are great.  I have a pre-made NES one and I retrokitted a genesis one.

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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2008, 03:37:37 pm »
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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2008, 07:17:26 pm »
Well, good thing I only spent thirty bucks. Maybe I can get that back through google store given the circumstances. Hmmm.
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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2008, 08:12:48 pm »
Well, good thing I only spent thirty bucks. Maybe I can get that back through google store given the circumstances. Hmmm.

No doubt...I'm in for 2 controls myself...that said, I'd love to hang in there as I love the product (from what I've seen....thanks Mission!)  So -- please, guys, I know a couple of you, at least, have had or currently have contact with this vendor -- please, I implore you, give us the high sign that the dude's ok. 2 heart surgeries is some serious **smurf poo** dudes.  I hope the guy's square...

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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2008, 10:19:53 pm »
Looks like the site is back up and functioning.
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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2008, 10:26:16 pm »
Site looks like it is working now.

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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2008, 10:27:44 pm »
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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2009, 01:26:04 am »
Hola folks,

Just bumping this up to see if anybody who ordered one (or more!) got theirs? 

I wrote to Curt's email directly, then to the legacy address, I called and got an answering machine, and finally used Google Checkout to send a note --- nothing.  Big old goosegg.

Just seeing if anyone has received theirs, or has been "privileged" enough to get a response?

Thanks!

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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2009, 07:23:52 am »
I believe someone has heard that he has been in the hospital.
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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2009, 05:03:27 pm »
that is correct Saint he is in the hospital right now...

http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=137147&view=findpost&p=1655004
« Last Edit: January 13, 2009, 05:05:39 pm by missioncontrol »

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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2009, 06:01:18 pm »
Good to know something current.
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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2009, 06:11:32 pm »
that is correct Saint he is in the hospital right now...

http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=137147&view=findpost&p=1655004

Blocked from work. Is he in there for the ticker again?

Don't take this the wrong way. When he gets out of the hospital, is there anyone that can help him out with legacyengineer? No matter what happens, he's probably under a lot of stress dealing with a lot of eager gamers who want their controllers. Might take a huge amount of work off his shoulders if someone trustworthy can at least respond to emails and update the site accordingly.

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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2009, 06:24:44 pm »

Blocked from work. Is he in there for the ticker again?


From Thu Jan 8, 2009 9:11 AM

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Hi All,

   For anyone trying to reach me, if I don't get back to you immediately, please be patient.    I'm am a guest at the hotel "NYU Medical Center" once again.   For those who are not aware I've been having an on-going battle with issues with my heart.   I've already had 2 open heart surgeries this past summer.   Unfortunately I've been re-admitted back to the hospital once again with some minor complications and possibly another surgery this coming weekend.   Thank God for free wireless in the hospital.    I'm in the Tisch wing over on 34th & 1st if anyone wants to visit ;-)

Regards,
Curt

after some get well wishes, from Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:42 PM:

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Thanks everyone...

Surgery is scheduled for Thursday, I'm on a mega antibotic cocktail to try and nuke out any residual infection I may have before the surgery, gonna be a lot more then I had originally thought, I have a psuedoanuerism on the root of my aorta and the surgeon is considering replacing the original mitral valve he put in back in June and is going to examine the aortic valve for a 1-3mm "possible" infection they see, but can't determine yet until they go in.

Marty, Albert and Karl are all in the loop and will get updates as things going along, I've got limited wifi here at the hospital so at least I can post on AA, outbound smtp is a big no-no so answering emails is not an easy process, but I've got the beginnings of a decent work around forming.

I'm coding Adventure II on windows right now, so that is keeping me busy and I've made the decision that once I get home, get well enough and get the joystick shipments on track, have decided that I will go forward with doing the paddle controllers in the late Spring, a lot of people have asked for them and I think they will be well received.

So I'm staying positive, looking forward to recovering and getting back on track with the classic gaming products.   Thank you to everyone for you support and kind words.

Curt


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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2009, 06:43:24 pm »
HOLY CRAP is this # 3 open chest?
no way , no how! not for me
I have seen 2 of these.
1 on Step Dad
1 on older brother.
nope not for me  :scared
just let me take my chances with my maker

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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2009, 07:38:17 pm »
Jesus. I'd say that's a decent excuse, eh?
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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2009, 10:09:36 pm »
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« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2009, 09:07:32 pm »
Jesus. I'd say that's a decent excuse, eh?
not for were I work  :embarassed:
I honestly fell for the guy and I do not know him

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« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2009, 07:49:32 pm »
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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2009, 12:35:01 pm »
Hi guys --- just checking in to see if anyone has news about Curt's condition?  I checked the Atari boards and haven't seen anything.  Genuinely concerned.  Thanks!

did you check real hard there?

http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=137578&st=0

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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2009, 01:19:52 pm »
Hi guys --- just checking in to see if anyone has news about Curt's condition?  I checked the Atari boards and haven't seen anything.  Genuinely concerned.  Thanks!

did you check real hard there?

http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=137578&st=0

Your link isn't working....

Well, I went to the original thread you posted, yes, around the 11th - but besides "well-wishes" I didn't hear anything about how the surgery went.  I'm not being a **smurf** Mission; the guy had major surgery and was supposed to be out of it in recovery at this point.  Just seeing if anyone who might be in contact with his family has word about his health.

.....and concern about a person's well-being aside, strictly from a business  standpoint, someone should have updated LegacyEngineer.com with Curt's note about his situation and call for patience.  At this point, all emails and phone calls have gone unanswered - and we're talking about correspondence WELL before the man got sick again.  Pardon me, but it's kind of retarded to expect the "thousands" of folks who placed orders and DON'T traipse AA or BYOAC boards to have to "dig" for info about their orders.

Whatever.  If someone has actual news about how the surgery went, it would be appreciated if they give a heads up.  I'm done "digging".

Peace.

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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2009, 01:38:21 pm »
my bad, forgot that area is unseen by guest accounts...

anyways,

Curt Vendel Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:19 AM
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okay, all set and heading to the OR in a few minutes.    Thanks for everyone's support.   Marty from classicgaming.com and Albert here at Atariage.com will both be in touch with my wife and will have updates.   It'll be a few days after I get out of the recovery room before I'll be up to using the laptop again.

Curt

Albert (site owner) Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:15 PM
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Earlier today there was an update that he was in the OR, doing well, and that he was expected to be done at 3:30 (EST). I believe that was around 2:30 EST. I haven't heard anything since then.

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Just an update, he's out of the ICU and in Stepdown and talking.

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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2009, 01:50:10 pm »
Ok, great to hear he's out of ICU...that is huge.

Thanks Mission.

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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2009, 06:23:18 pm »
Update:

http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=138016&view=findpost&p=1669542

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Hi Everyone,

  I am typing from my home computer at long last, I got home last night from the hospital, I'm pretty worn out right now, gonna take it easy for the next few days, catch up a little on my lost month at the hospital, just get my barrings again.     Feeling good, breathing is much better, pain still sucks, but I've got some very nice drugs that are helping a bit with that.    Hopefully in the next day or two I can start tacking the tons of emails I need to catch up on.   I'm also going to try and work out something with Albert over the next 2 weeks and see if Atari Age can be the distributor for the classic USB joysticks as I just can't handle order shipments right now.     I'm up to sitting in a chair for 1 hour at a clip, taking a walk for 10 mins, then having to crash for a 2 hour nap several times a day, so I don't think I'm going to be fit for duty in getting everyone's orders out for a while.



Curt

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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2009, 12:04:36 pm »
Just curious -- anyone received their order yet?  Still hanging tight here.   (just psyched).

Good news btw is that the man is home and well!  Thanks Mission for keeping us in the loop!  There's a new note regarding shipping on his site as well -- so all orders should be out by the top of March!

http://www.legacyengineer.com/store.html

Can't wait!!!

« Last Edit: February 20, 2009, 12:55:12 pm by bboysnj »

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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2009, 06:58:17 pm »
I ran across an old email confirming my transaction on buying two of these. Man, it's been four months, now. And look what I find on the site:

CURRENTLY SOLD OUT!

Inventory is not available at this time, the new storefront, newsletter system and customer management system are going online on June 30th and at that time a very limited number of available joysticks will be onsale with an inventory counter, once gone, another batch will not be available until July.


 
I didn't get mine, and I ordered last October.
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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #37 on: June 25, 2009, 03:28:03 am »
Personally, I cant believe anyone would want one of these.

 They were wretchedly horrible joysticks.   Ate up the hands, were sloppy and
inaccurate, stiff, and the internal pads wear and cause intermittent connections.

 You had to use one hand to fire and hold the thing... and so it was very clumsy
and awkward.

 Personally, Id buy these and day over those Craptastic torture devices:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/Pair-Epyx-500XJ-by-Konix-Joystick-Atari-2600-Commodore_W0QQitemZ280359467984QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Vintage_Video_Games?hash=item4146b9fbd0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1240|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50


 Epyx 500xj

 Ergonomic, fitting in the hand really comfortably.  Has high quality microswitches in
the assembly, instead of those dreadful contact pads. Highly accurate, no sloppy feel.
Comfortable shaft as well.

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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2009, 08:17:36 am »
the konix speedking (as it was nameb here) I had one (actually i still have it in  my joystick cemetery)  it works well unless you need to use diagonals, whitch are a nightmare, but for 4 direction this joystik was a dream. Quickshot 2 turbo (for the ones who liked trigger joysticks) and the prof competition (and the other suzo styled joystiks) where the best in europe.

Ironically Konix  went into bankrupcy while developing an home arcade system (the prototype had a moving platfform for racing / flight games also!!!)
« Last Edit: June 26, 2009, 03:40:07 am by Bluedeath »
I give up  fighting keyboard dislexia, I lost.

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Re: Legacy Engineering Atari USB controls...
« Reply #39 on: June 25, 2009, 09:53:57 am »
Epyx 500xj

Ergonomic, fitting in the hand really comfortably.  Has high quality microswitches in
the assembly, instead of those dreadful contact pads. Highly accurate, no sloppy feel.
Comfortable shaft as well.


I used one of these with my Atari 600, Commodore 64, and Amiga's back in the day. That was a great little joystick.